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by stefen＠thor.he.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Homosexual Lynch Mob, Cabal
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Stephen Boursy wrote: > Dale Thorn wrote: > > aga wrote: > > > Stephen Boursy wrote: > > >> Dave Hayes wrote:[snip] > > A lot if people act (pretend to be?) shocked to find that a so-called > > minority would practice discrimination. A classic example from what > > I've heard is the ADL going *against* the World Jewish Congress and > > lining up with the U.S. State Dept. in the 1930's, to *suppress* > > Jewish dissenters in the U.S., because it was "good for business" > > at that time. > That was due to zionism was it not? I hate zionists with a passion. > Zionists continue to this day to make all sorts of unsavory tradeofffs > to keep their stolen land--there is only one solution there and Arafat > no longer has what it takes (he sold out too). This is really a tough one. I'd guess that the agenda of Zionists, as well as some of their allies, changes or incorporates additional goals at different levels in the cabal. We all know what the lower levels look like, but the nature of the very top level intrigues me to no end. Is it just money and power, control of property etc.? Or is it something "really evil"? > But I think the policy of public gay bashing on the usenet to be > counter-productive, irrational and unfair (aside from bad PR). Bob > Allisat for example is completely alienated from some here because > of this--I respect Allisat a great deal--he's done much for usenet > freedom and has a real mouth on him. That you respect him says a lot for him in spite of his alleged irrationality. > A large percentage of the population is gay--the average citizen is > moving in to the usenet and we need their support if we are to toss > the cabal in the trash and in some cases jail. The average citizen will never support freedom fighters, and I think this is even more true of the Internet than in the outside world. Of course, I hope I'm wrong, or that there's some technology or formula that will enable average people to have the courage to defend that freedom. > Deliberatly alienating such a large class of people is not logical > nor is it fair. It is of course everyones right to freely do so-- > here and in any forum on usenet. I am sympathetic to what you're saying. I am also sympathetic to the opinion that there are some things that people practice which are OK if they affect only them and nobody else, but are not necessarily OK when they affect others. One of the things that make a society a society is the relative accomodation or tolerance that society has for various practices and beliefs which are outside of the norm. The PC premise is that it's OK to have certain practices and beliefs which are outside (sometimes way outside) of the norm, but that to keep from hurting the feelings of what are (or in the PC people's opinion should be) protected classes of people/practices/beliefs, we should refrain from speech or actions which has the effect of offending these people. You'll note in the last presidential campaign, to name an example, much of the media beat up on Pat Buchanan, going so far as to call him a Nazi and so on. (Not that they would do that to Reagan, who is IMO a real Nazi, BTW.) Now, those folks who don't like to be called "fag" or whatever, did they speak out against this public labeling of Buchanan? I don't know a damn thing about the real Buchanan, although I know that William F. Buckley Jr. is a real scumbag, to name a relevant example. I'm sorry if I don't conform 100%, but I just don't see any real justice being called for and worked for by the PC mob - I only see selfishness and an ongoing attempt to transfer more power from the mainstream public into the hands of various special interest groups. Tell you what, though. If any gay interest group comes out for justice in a substantial way, that is, if they call for changes I can believe in, I'll support them to that extent at least, and try to stay out of their way otherwise if possible. But I won't hold my breath on that.

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Re: One-time pads
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by mixmaster＠remail.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A beta implementation Ver:1.0 (for Win95/NT) of the CDSA API's has been posted to the web yesterday for free download. You can find it at www.intel.com/ial/security The implementation will timeout on Feb 28, 1997 and is non-exportable. Any feedback/comments on the implementation would be appreciated.

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Search for Remailer
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi there, It probably has been discussed before, but since the shutdown of Penet and the re-design of c2.org, I am looking for a remailer, that allows an reply adress. Since it doesn't have to be high-security, the format of My mailbox-->Remailer-->Recipient, and subsequently Recipient-->Remailer-->My mailbox, would be enough. Please copy replies to my private e-mail, for I am currently not subscribed to CPs... Thanks in advance for your help... Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE * */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! * * */ /* * * */ /* E-mail: harka(a)nycmetro.com * * */ /* * */ /* Finger or E-Mail for PGP public key. * * */ /* Key Size: 2047 / KeyID: 04174301 * * */ /* Fingerprint: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 http://www.eff.org */ /* 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /* Note: My old key (KeyID: B2728495) has been revoked. */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBMtXvzzltEBIEF0MBAQElkAf/X4cqUEzB573IHpEsiXhGUgXjD91B9y8d 3mcVvutblQrrkvMzdCjXA+0QPh6PSuVrDTKNR4qTfvzGSC6apxVwZRApd2bdYXKl ZXL85kfxPXKAeQOidUqlhZmLVaT6x7HzELox7ovR+el4El2yb3LdWyeoK/xhlq6K DSpOKJawhFlZv/5FzSyEoPDIztY8E7Xp74PCr7XWAclY0Xi/cS8H7WGGOskZOAme AxsHB2PeR+0DLOE5zToABA/HDZuws4pnHB6NcR4jzi9lkp2FoHJxvpgZzTn55fNz KnQpsvh3q/a1UUiWe0NUUEP0VjMtqyOm098UuhhN2gN1MDyaNT+q7A== =oUW9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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Re: If guilty of a lesser crime, you can be sentenced for a greater
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:04 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >Go out to a law book store and take a look at the guideline book. It's >actually a lot of fun. "Ok, say I killed my wife for her coke stash and >recruited my brother to dump the body..." The US Sentencing Commission and the guidelines are on the Web - see <http://www.ussc.gov> for general Commission stuff, and <http://www.ussc.gov/guide/guidetab.htm> for the 1995 manual (there have been amendments, but this ought to be good enough for just goofing off). I haven't seen the recent Supreme Court decision yet, but from the description it sounds like they haven't done anything more than affirm what the federal courts have been doing for some time now. In general, crimes or bad acts which are used at sentencing must only be proved to a preponderance standard, and the judge is the trier of fact. The use of uncharged bad acts evidence is old news. I wish I had some hope that recent trends eroding away vital constitutional rights would be reversed - but being tough-on-crime is very popular. What are we going to do when we no longer have even two useful Constitutional rights to rub together? -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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by dozer＠netwizards.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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American Dissident Voices Weekly Transcripts
by aga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

posted for your perusal. keep all replies to UseNet. On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, The Bok wrote: > > Non-White Immigration: Death Sentence for America > > by Dr. William L. Pierce > Chairman, National Alliance > > TODAY WE'LL TAKE A LOOK into the future -- a look into what the future > will be like if we all remain spectators and simply let the present > course of events continue. > > And we'll also look at what the future could be if we choose to become > participants in the historical process instead of merely remaining > spectators. > > I will tailor these two visions of the future especially for those of us > who live in North America -- but in broad outline they will be > recognizable by all of us, no matter what part of the White world we > live in. > > First, let's look at the future we will have if we continue behaving > just as we are now: if we continue watching TV, paying our taxes, and > letting the politicians and the controlled media run the country. > > Consider demographics, for example: the relative numbers of the > different types of people in America. During the 50 years since the > Second World War, America has been darkening, has been getting less and > less White. Immigration from Europe was cut off after the war -- except > for Jews, of course -- and the floodgates from the non-White world were > opened. Asians and mestizos have been pouring into the country, both > legally and illegally. > > Most of these non-White races breed much faster than Whites do. The > result has been a steady rise in the percentage of non-White minorities > in America. If you live on a farm in Kansas or the Dakotas you may not > have noticed the change. If you live in Florida or California or New > York, however, you certainly have noticed it. In fact, most of our > people who live in America's larger cities have had their faces rubbed > in it. > > If things continue as they are going now, there is no chance at all that > this situation will become better. Non-White immigrants will continue > pouring into America, because no matter how bad things get here, > conditions will be even worse where these immigrants came from. The > government will not even try to halt the illegal part of this non-White > flood, because the government doesn't really want it halted. And the > non-Whites already here will continue to have more children than the > Whites. At some time in the next century Whites will become a minority > in North America. And the flood will continue. > > And the television propaganda telling us that the flood of non-Whites > really is a good thing will continue too. The politicians will > continue to sing the praises of "diversity" and "multiculturalism," in > tune with the television. We will be told that if we object to > the flood we are "haters" and "racists." Interracial sex will continue > to be presented as fashionable by the media. And what was > a White country 50 years ago will gradually become a Brown country. > > Of course, even a hundred years from now there may be a few super-rich > White families who will be able to keep their heads above the flood on > their own private islands, with their private security forces, but for > the rest of us there will be no White schools, no White neighborhoods, > no White clubs or bars or restaurants. We will be submerged: that is, > our grandchildren will be submerged. That's the way it has been planned, > and that is the way it will happen -- not may happen, but will happen -- > if we don't interfere: if we just keep watching TV, paying our taxes, > and voting for the Democrats or the Republicans. > > Right now I can almost hear the hoots and groans from a million or so > Politically Correct idiots. "What difference does it make whether > America is White or Brown?" they are saying. "What difference does it > make what color our grandchildren are? Color is only skin deep. After > all, we're all the same; we're all equal." Or, if they're onto the very > latest Politically Correct fad, they are saying, "There really is no > such thing as race. Scientists have proved that race is just an illusion > created by racists to keep us all apart." > > Really, there is no fad too foolish or too perverse, no opinion too > contrary to the facts, for these Politically Correct lemmings to > adopt, once it has been declared fashionable by the controlled media. > But certainly the lemmings will have their way -- if the rest of us do > nothing. > > Or consider crime. The lemmings would have us believe that crime is the > result of "oppression" and "injustice" by heterosexual White males, and > that it will disappear as soon as we have a society where no one is > "discriminated against" and where all of the officially favored > minorities are given everything they want. I don't think that even the > lemmings really believe that, but that's what the television has taught > them to say, and so that's what they say. > > You and I, on the other hand, understand that as we have given the > minorities more and more handouts, as we have given them every sort of > advantage over ourselves -- all sorts of affirmative action preferences > in admissions to universities and professional schools, in the granting > of financial aid, in hiring and promotions -- crime has become worse and > worse. Passing laws requiring us to favor them and prohibiting us from > discriminating against them in any way has made their behavior steadily > worse -- not better. > > It used to be that nearly all crimes committed by Blacks were against > other Blacks. They knew that if they attacked a White person they would > be severely punished, and besides, segregation kept them pretty much > among themselves and didn't give them many opportunities for mischief. > Now we've taught them that they don't have to fear us or respect us. The > controlled media have persuaded them that we have oppressed and > persecuted them and that whatever they do to us serves us right. > > You know and I know that the crime situation can only become worse in > the future, if for no other reason than that the number of Blacks and > other minorities will continue growing. We have only to look to the > continent of Africa in order to see our own future. Before Europeans > came to Africa, the Blacks there were eating each other, literally, just > like the other animals. We outlawed cannibalism among the Blacks, and > for more than 300 years we tried to teach them the ways of civilization. > > Then after the Second World War, in a spasm of lunatic egalitarianism, > we turned our colonies in Africa over to the indigenous Blacks and left > them to their own devices: no oppression, no persecution, every > advantage for success. > > And what happened? The Blacks reverted to their jungle behavior almost > as soon as we had left. Even in South Africa, which until very recently > was a civilized, White country, the jungle is reasserting itself. The > financial capital, Johannesburg, which a couple of years ago was as safe > and clean as any city in Europe, has become so crime-ridden since the > handing over of the country to Black rule that its streets are now among > the most dangerous in the world, with armed Black gangs prowling in > search of prey by day as well as by night. It may be another 30 or 40 > years before conditions in South Africa resemble those in Rwanda or > Uganda, but that's exactly where they're headed. > > And it may take more than 100 years for America to get there, but that's > where we're headed too. There is a fundamental law of Nature which also > applies to the historical process. It is the law of entropy. It tells us > that if we have a highly developed civilization in one part of the world > and a jungle society in another part of the world, and we place those > two societies in contact and let the inhabitants of the jungle society > take a hand in the running of things, the civilization which used to be > highly developed will soon take on the characteristics of the jungle > society. Ordered societies become disordered, except where the > genius for order remains in firm control. The tendency is always toward > decay, toward dissolution, toward chaos and ruin -- except in those rare > instances where the vital spark is able to assert itself. When that > spark is quenched or overwhelmed, decay inevitably sets in. > > The vital spark I'm talking about, the genius for order, the spirit of > progress which built our civilization, is European. Of course, Europeans > aren't the only race with a vital spark. Every people has its own > variety of organizational genius. The Japanese have theirs, the Chinese > have theirs, and so on. Actually, every form of life has a peculiar > genius for organizing the non-living matter in its environment into > living matter. That's true of worms and viruses, of fish and horses. In > each case, however, the genius takes a unique form, the spark burns with > a different brightness. In Black Africa the spark of civilization always > has been very, very dim. Among our people it has been very bright. Our > government now, however, under the influence of the controlled > mass media, is pursuing policies which are guaranteed to extinguish our > spark, policies which are guaranteed to bring our level of civilization > down to that in Rwanda or Haiti -- not next year, or even in the next > decade, but eventually. > > Haiti is a good example of the law of entropy. In the 18th century Haiti > was the jewel among the European colonies in the New World. It was clean > and green and prosperous. It was civilized. It had an efficient > government, thriving industry and commerce, and law and order. It was a > French island, a European island. Then came the egalitarian lunacy, the > sheer democratic madness, of the French Revolution, which declared Black > slaves and White masters equal. The consequence of this was that the > French with foresight left Haiti, and the Blacks, having been persuaded > that they were just as capable as Frenchmen, massacred the rest, hoping > to have Haiti's riches entirely for themselves. What happened instead, > of course, was that Haiti's civilization declined within a few years > from the European level to the African level, and it has remained there > ever since, despite the fact that the United States Marines went in and > rebuilt Haiti's entire physical infrastructure and reorganized its > political system earlier in this century. As soon as the White Marines > left, in 1934, the Black genius for crime, squalor, and disorder > asserted itself again. So that's our future, if we just sit back and > watch: more and more non-Whites, more and more crime and filth and > disorder, and eventually, a century or two from now, another Haiti on > the mainland. > > But we don't have to just sit back and watch. We know how to avoid that > dismal path of decay and ruin. We know how to solve every problem > necessary to get us back onto the upward path again. > > Consider illegal immigration, for example, which is responsible for so > much of the darkening of America. The government and the controlled > media pretend that illegal immigration is an insoluble problem. They > show us on television all the holes which Mexicans have cut in the > border fence, they show us groups of Mexicans wading across the Rio > Grande, they show us Mexicans climbing over the fence and running > through the traffic in San Diego to evade our Border Patrol, and they > wring their hands and tell us that it's just impossible to stop illegal > immigration. The government says it's assigning another 100 Border > Patrol agents in one place and it's building a stronger fence in another > place, but then the Mexicans just come across some other part of the > border. The government acts like it just doesn't know what to do, that > it's just too big a problem, that it would take too much money to solve. > > But really, that's all just a game calculated to fool the American > people. The government knows perfectly well how to stop illegal > immigration, but it doesn't want to stop it. The government just wants > to make us believe that it's trying its best. But, you know, any of you > listeners who've had any military experience understand that illegal > immigration can be stopped easily, quickly, and permanently. Even I, > who've never been in the Army, can guarantee you that if I were in > charge of the border between the United States and Mexico I could > completely halt illegal immigration within 24 hours, and I could keep it > completely halted with far less expense than that now required to > operate our Border Patrol. All I would do is authorize Border Patrol > agents to shoot anyone attempting to cross the border illegally. Two or > three shootings in the first night, in each sector of the border where > crossings are frequent, and the word would be out: "Don't try to cross > the border, unless you want to die."After that, I would spend a couple > of months erecting a simple fence from San Diego, California, to > Brownsville, Texas. I'd erect it in two rows 100 feet apart, with mines > and electronic sensors planted between the rows. I'd have jeep patrols > along our side of the fence, patrolling at unpredictable times, but with > never more than an hour between patrols, and I'd have helicopters > patrolling above. I'd do it all with a permanent Border Patrol force > along the Mexican border of 5,000 men, and no illegal immigrants would > get through. None. > > The lemmings, of course, would be screaming that I am bloodthirsty, that > I am a murderer, and so on, but really, fewer Mexicans would have to be > shot trying to come across the border that first night than law-abiding > Americans are now being murdered each year by illegal-alien criminals in > California and Texas. > > I guess we all tend to be a bit selective in our sympathies. I have > sympathy for my own people, for the victims of Mexican criminals, and > the lemmings have sympathy for the criminals. They're Politically > Correct, and I'm Politically Incorrect. But I would stop illegal > immigration, painlessly and cleanly, and they prefer to believe that it > can't be done. > > The problem of the illegal aliens already in America also can be solved. > So can the race problem. These problems are more difficult and will > require a much larger effort than the problem of illegal immigration, > but the cost of solving them now is infinitesimal compared to the > long-term cost of failing to solve them. All we need to solve these > problems is the will to survive as a people, the will to build the basis > for a progressive future for our kind, the will to avoid ending up like > Haiti or Rwanda a couple of centuries hence. > > Of course, we all know that one thing couch potatoes don't have is will. > People who've been raised on television, who've grown up with a > spectator's attitude toward the world around them, certainly aren't > going to stir themselves just to ensure a future for their > grandchildren. Instead, they're just going to reach for the potato chips > and keep on watching. Spectators don't count. The people who do count > are in two relatively small groups. In one group are you and I and the > others who care enough about the future of our people to do something > about it: in fact, to do whatever it takes. > > In the other group are the people who control the mass media, plus their > collaborators in the government, in the mainstream churches, in the > universities, in finance and industry, and in the other institutions of > our society. > > You know who controls the mass media. Many of you also know why they > don't want the problem of illegal immigration and the other problems > threatening our future to be solved. They are Jews, and throughout their > whole history they have lived by two principles: first, always be loyal > to your fellow Jews; and second, always remember that anyone who is not > a Jew is your enemy; never forget and never forgive. > > Their collaborators in the government and other institutions are > individuals who have no sense of loyalty to our people and who have a > vested interest in following the lead of the Jews. Some of them are > office holders who understand that they hold their offices at the > pleasure of those who control the mass media, those who control public > opinion, those who control votes. Most of these collaborators have no > sense of responsibility to anyone but themselves. > > Typical of these is a man who is a friend of an acquaintance of mine; he > is an assistant district attorney in New York City, a man who > understands what's going on but who doesn't really care. When challenged > to take a stand for his own people, he said: "Look. Everyone around here > knows that the Jews are running the government. It's too bad, but > there's nothing we can do about it. I've got to look out for myself. I > have a career and a family to think about. If I want to get ahead, I > have to collaborate." > > Unfortunately, there are many, many others among our people who have no > more sense of personal honor or responsibility than this New York City > assistant prosecutor. It is a great shame for us. We really need to > purge ourselves of this shame some day. > > Meanwhile, we can take some comfort in the knowledge that such people, > who have no loyalty to anyone but themselves, are always ready to switch > sides as soon as they see the tide turning. The tide is not yet turning > -- at least, not enough for people like that assistant district attorney > in New York to notice. The swarm of Brown immigrants from Mexico is > still growing from week to week, and our government is still making only > the most transparent pretense of trying to stop them. The couch > potatoes are as passive as ever, and the Politically Correct lemmings > are as idiotic as ever. > > Changes are beginning to take place, however. > > Our weekly radio programs are reaching more and more people. People who > hear us telling the truth are emboldened to tell the truth themselves. > > The ripples of truth are spreading. Soon those ripples will become > waves. And one day the storm will break loose over this land. >

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RE: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT
by Mullen Patrick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DataETRsch(a)aol.com sez: >Comment: "Why the hell is the file size limit 258 bytes off? What, are keys >kept in file headers?" >Reply: Keys are NOT stored in headers. The 258 (actually 256) byte header is >used to store certain IMDMP special security option settings. The header is >itself secured using a 128-bit encryption code. [My apologies in advance for not having looked at your web site] What security option settings are in the header? What kind of security would be lost by knowing its contents? I assume there is some sort of risk, hence the encryption of the header. When is the header decrypted? Where is it decrypted to? If it is decrypted into memory before use, one could read the plaintext straight from memory. Is the key for the header static (same for all files), or changing? I assume that when the source code becomes available, you will disclose the structure of the file header... How will the source code be distributed? Thank you for your time. Patrick Mullen Patrick.Mullen(a)gsc.gte.com (preferred email for non-list email) _______________________________________________________________________________ From: DataETRsch(a)aol.com on Fri, Jan 10, 1997 0:46 Subject: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Hello, In compliance with the large volume of source code requests DataET Research has been receiving, the undocumented Pascal source code of UDCM (containing the IMDMP encryption algorithm) will be released in approximately one month. Also, the shareware version of UDCM completely complies with ITAR since only 56-bit keys are allowed. The registered version allows 2048-bit keys. The registered version can only be sold within the U.S. and Canada. Also: IN RESPONSE TO THE FLAME MAIL DATAET RESEARCH HAS RECEIVED: A "comment:" is from a flame mail. A "reply:" is DataET Research's reply to the comment. Comment: "What do you mean by 'extensive research'." Reply: Benchmark tests. Source code comparisons. Documentations of other algorithms. "Applied Cryptography". Comment: "Yah, okay, since when is a DLL not royalty-free?!" Reply: Read some component catalogs. Go search the Internet. Comment: "That stupid line about 140 function bloats your ad." Reply: Is this constructive criticism or what? Comment: "What the hell does DLL size have to do with cost-effectiveness?" Reply: Upload time. Disk creation time. Minimal archive size increase. Comment: "I've never even heard of IMDMP before. Is this a joke?" Reply: UDCM (IMDMP) came out January 1st, 1997. How do you think successful companies start anyway, with millions of dollars upfront? DataET Research is a relatively new company. Comment: "What kind of industry standard is IMDMP above?" Reply: 128-bit encryption. Average DES is 128. PGP tops 1024. IDEA goes at 128. RSA the same. Full security IMDMP is 2048-bit. Any other questions? Comment: "Any bonehead can tell that 256 bytes is 2048 bits." Reply: Does anybody out there feel insulted? Comment: "Why does IMDMP need sub-algorithms? Is there something wrong?" Reply: Sub-algorithms of IMDMP are basically algorithm modes. There is nothing wrong with IMDMP's structure. Why don't you see what sub-algorithms are for yourself? Go try out UDCM: http://members.aol.com/dataetrsch/udcm.html. Comment: "What algorithm doesn't process both binary and ASCII?" Reply: Go search the Internet for one. You'll find many dinky ones. Comment: "What algorithm doesn't allow multiple encryption layers?" Reply: Go search the Internet for one. You'll find many dinky ones. Comment: "Who says IMDMP doesn't have any back-doors or magical keys?" Reply: What more do you want us to prove? The source code will be out in about a month. Comment: "Why is there a dumb 2,147,483,390 file size limit?" Reply: It has do with 2^32 DOS file pointer long integer variables. You developers should know that. Comment: "Why the hell is the file size limit 258 bytes off? What, are keys kept in file headers?" Reply: Keys are NOT stored in headers. The 258 (actually 256) byte header is used to store certain IMDMP special security option settings. The header is itself secured using a 128-bit encryption code. Comment: "What the do you mean by 'file specific unique encryption'." Reply: For the idiot who sent this message to us: Why don't you download UDCM V2.0 and view its documentation for yourself? Comment: "Isn't IMDMP illegal?!" Reply: The version of UDCM (IMDMP) being distributed on the Internet, the shareware version, allows only 56-bit keys. The registered version allows 2048-bit ones. The registered version is only sold within the U.S. and Canada. Comment: "I want the damn source code to IMDMP now. How do we know for sure that IMDMP is better than DES and all the others you mentioned?" Reply: Wait one month please. Jeremy K. 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Private Idaho source code now available
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Private Idaho 2.8b3, a bug fix version of the popular Windows freeware PGP and remailer utility, is now available. This will be my last official release of PI for the foreseeable future. Due to other projects and new directions, I haven't been able to spend as much time as I'd like coding and supporting Private Idaho. Instead of seeing it die on the vine, I've decided to release the source code under the GNU General Public License (export disclaimer - the sources do not include, or have ever contained, cryptographic algorithms). I'm hoping one or more, like-minded, privacy-oriented developer(s) will step forward to continue with PI's evolution. There's a lot of functionality in the application right now, but there are still some enhancements to be made (localized and 32-bit versions, some more minor bug fixs, etc.). I'll still be maintaining the Private Idaho Web page, and if new versions do appear, they'll be distributed there. See http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/pi.html for complete details on getting the sources. Thanks for all the support and feedback you've provided over the past several years. Joel

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Re: A moment with Dale (Rejection policy, etc.)
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 From: Dale Thorn <dthorn(a)gte.net> CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Rejection policy, etc. Dale Thorn obviously wrote: >I have a great deal of respect for power. When I was 6, I unwound a >coat hanger and put both ends into an electrical outlet. All I >remember from that is something like a sledgehammer hitting me, and >I went backwards rather quickly. And I never did it again. Why do I do this? Typical Dale. A moment with Dale. Stories from the past. However, there may be some grain of truth in this. Such socket poking might well explain Dale's (shall I say) specialness. He went backwards quickly and has, relentlessly, never reversed direction. Too bad he didn't keep on doing it again and again. Ho hum. More Dale. XO

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[noise] RE: Shave the Whales
by Mullen, Patrick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there a way we can keep the caricatures w/out getting the rest of the message w/ these postings? I like the ASCII art, but... BTW, I don't know if the joke was in the original posting (I notice the RE: header), but -- Mammals have hair. Whales are mammals. Shave the whales! ~ Patrick >---------- >From: Huge Cajones Remailer[SMTP:nobody@huge.cajones.com] >Sent: Monday, January 27, 1997 4:30 PM >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: Shave the Whales > >Dr.Disruptive Vasectomy died of AIDS last night with his >homosexual lover. > > \|/ > @ @ > -oOO-(_)-OOo- Dr.Disruptive Vasectomy > > > >

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RE: Fighting the cybercensor
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:00 PM 1/27/97 EST, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >blanc <blancw(a)cnw.com> writes: ... >> 2) Why do you suppose the Iraqis haven't already thought of doing this >> themselves? > >Perhaps because they love Saddam, who really is a great guy. Stop listening >to what U.S.gubmint and media tell you and use your brain. What did >Saddam do to _you? Those of us in the US have the luxery of secret ballots, Iraq is not. What was reported to me (by the media) was that those who decided to vote against Hussein, in a time when food was scarce, decided to vote against eating. It was not made illegal to vote him out, merely a catch 22, unless enough people agreed openly, the vocal minority would suffer. What we should have been doing as the troops pulled out and a no fly zone was being established was dropping bombs full of bread on the populus. Then they could have voted any which way they chose. ... >> Destructive people often ascend to positions of power not simply because >> they are ruthless, but because they have 1) many sycophantic followers and >> 2) many ignorant, vulnerable people unable to prevent it. You might be >> able to kill off one Saddam, but potentially many others would be waiting >> in the wings to take his place. The situation surrounding the existence >> of someone like Saddam is part of the contributing factors which keeps him >> there, not simply that one man himself. It was the same with Hitler and >> with so many others - they don't just have an excess of "power" >> concentrated within themselves which puts them in positions of control over >> others - there will have been many people who will have helped put them >> there, expecting to derive benefits from it. > >I don't like your Saddam example, having much admiration for the man, but >again this goes back to the perceived likelihood of future assassination. >If Saddam is killed in an unlikely event, he will be succeeded by someone >who does not fear assassination. If all potential successors are convinced >that the rubout can be repeated, they won't go for the job. Remember, the >purpose of "terrorism" is not just to kill someone, but to "terrorize". > >> And what will be done about all those people who made this "power" >> possible? You don't just kill the one man and be done with it - you have >> to also "kill" the conditions which maintained him. > >You rub out enough key people and terrorize their potential successors >into not wanting to take over their jobs, and the system collapses. ... I don't remember where I heard this, and in all likelyhood, I heard it here. This is certainly not a direct quote, ant would the origional poster please speak up. There came a time, in some ancient civilization when the king committed suicide by eating poisoned food. In the remaining week, most of the household, apparently in honor of the deceased king, jumped on kitchen knives and butcher knives, killing themselves. The brother of the king would not come out of hiding because some unknown person was terrorizing him with a meat cleaver. After a year, it was apparent that no one in the line of succession still survived, all killing themselves with kitchen utensils. It was rumored that the post was cursed. It was then that the royal galley slave bravely stepped foreward to rule the kingdom until one of the origional line should return. The decendants of the galley slave have ruled to this day. Like I said, I don't know where this came from, but I would like to see it again, if it came from here.

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > It is a foregone conclusion that the upper class of list members will > > have no dispute over the censorship and therefore the change will be > > permenant, it is a form of online ethnic cleansing whereby the lists > > clique of illuminati have taken it upon themselves to remove the > > elements of the list they feel endanger their position of superiority > > and respect, the point they have missed is that they have no > > credibility whatsoever after this incident, as well as a number of > > other such occurances and therefore are only isolating themselves > > into their own little world. > > The Big Lie once again. yadda yadda yadda "Censorship!" yadda yadda > yadda "No Credibility" yadda yadda yadda ad nauseum. Blah Blah "Free speech advocates", Blah Blah "Foaming at the mouth anarchists".... > > "cypherpunks will make the networks safe for censorship" > > "Idiots will make the networks require censorship" "Fascists will reply to posts with weak arguments" Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > ...That was the intended direction of the list, it > > has rapidly disentigrated over recent months into a censored list > > where the elite post to the main list and anyone else is nearly > > always relegated to a seperate list for the crypto-untermenshcen. > > Again, nonsense. The moderation experiment (moderation, not > censorship) has been in effect for all of ONE WEEK. Where does > Paul get this hysterical "recent months" stuff? The list has been disentigrating for some time since the disgusting incident when Dimitri was forcibly unsubscribed from the list. There have also been a number of postings from members of the list claiming to understand anarchism who support censorship to "protect new members of the list". > > If you want to talk about intellectual dishonesty try the following: > > > > Imagine if you will a list, the original purpose of which was > > to act as a free and open forum for discussion of cryptography and > > related issues... > > Paul's argument is the essence of literal conservativism, "but > I don't things to change!" Without change, though, there can be > no progress. Moderation is a one-month experiment. There is no > intellectual dishonesty in saying, "let's try something else for > a while." So, there would be no intellectual dishonesty in a country claiming to be a free and open society "trying out" fascism for a month or two? - After all it`s a private country just as this is a private list.... > > Now imagine that list falling into a state of content based > > censorship and censorship based on an unspoken but ever present > > class structure,... > > "Unspoken but ever present class structure"? I wonder how Paul > was able to divine this? Certainly it is unspoken, but that, of > course, it because it does not exist anywhere but in Paul's > fertile imagination. There is a clear trend easily observable on the list whereby certain members postings are censored when their content is of a standard that, if the moderation were objective and based on content alone, would warrant their being sent to the censored list. If anyone here archives all of the list postings or is willing to retrieve them from the archive we can run some statistical tests and comparisons in a few weeks once the sample is large enough, however, the list oberfuhrer and leutenant von Sandfort will claim the statistical correlation between poster reputation among the upper class of list members and the number of their posts let onto the moderated list is caused by persistent flamers so this will not convince them.. > > It is a foregone conclusion that the upper class of list members will > > have no dispute over the censorship and therefore the change will be > > permenant,... > > Great! I thought that hadn't been determined yet. What a > relief. I think you`ll find your poor attempt at making light of the situation does little to hide the fact that this censorship has finally confirmed that this is a private list and is no longer meant to be a free, anarchic discussion forum. I can tell you one other thing for sure, even if the moderation "experiment" were to end in a month as a last ditch attempt by John Gilmore and Sandy Sandfort to recover some of their lost credibility it would be a vain and entirely unsuccesful attempt. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Sovreign Right of Lawful Access
by Somebody 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This morning at the RSA keynote, David Aaron, the US Crypto ambassador quoted the "Sovreign Right of Lawful Access" as something that goverments were determined to preserve.

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.hlp creation
by Neil Rogers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Howdi all, how are you, Can someone please help me, Can someone create a Windows 3.1 .hlp file fro me, when opened has a link to FILE MANAGER - U:\W31\winfile.exe Please, I have tried but can't do one, I would be really gratefull if someone could help! Thanks in advance, Neil ..............

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Where's reference? (was:RE: [DES] DES Key Recovery Project, Progress Report #7)
by Mullen, Patrick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>---------- >>From: Phil Karn[SMTP:karn@qualcomm.com] >>>If past cryptographic software is any indication, the DES Cracker >>>will be available from an overseas ftp site within hours of release in >>>the US. >> >>And lacking that, the author can always print it out on paper and >>physically mail it out of the country; this is specifically allowed by >>the new Commerce rules as I understand them. And who's to say that the >>overseas FTP copies weren't scanned from such a paper copy? :-) >> >>Phil > Where can I get a reference to this? I thought you weren't supposed to transmit cryptographic code out of the U.S. under any means, including print... >(???) > >~ Patrick >

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > The exercise reveals to me that only by ignoring the first paragraph > > of your example, the part that reads "Imagine if you will a list, > > the original purpose of which was to act as a free and open forum > > for discussion of cryptography and related issues." can you make > > a claim of content based censorship. The purpose of this list was Maybe this was misleading, that was indeed a purpose of the list but it was also supposed to be a free and anarchic list where people were not prevented from posting whatever they want. Even if it were the case that we accepted content based censorship that is no defence of the obvious class system that is in place whereby certain posters are automatically sent straight to the moderated list and others are censored regardless of the content of their posts. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > ...That was the intended direction of the list, it > > has rapidly disentigrated over recent months into a censored list > > where the elite post to the main list and anyone else is nearly > > always relegated to a seperate list for the crypto-untermenshcen. > > Again, nonsense. The moderation experiment (moderation, not > censorship) has been in effect for all of ONE WEEK. Where does > Paul get this hysterical "recent months" stuff? The list has been disentigrating for some time since the disgusting incident when Dimitri was forcibly unsubscribed from the list. There have also been a number of postings from members of the list claiming to understand anarchism who support censorship to "protect new members of the list". > > If you want to talk about intellectual dishonesty try the following: > > > > Imagine if you will a list, the original purpose of which was > > to act as a free and open forum for discussion of cryptography and > > related issues... > > Paul's argument is the essence of literal conservativism, "but > I don't things to change!" Without change, though, there can be > no progress. Moderation is a one-month experiment. There is no > intellectual dishonesty in saying, "let's try something else for > a while." So, there would be no intellectual dishonesty in a country claiming to be a free and open society "trying out" fascism for a month or two? - After all it`s a private country just as this is a private list.... > > Now imagine that list falling into a state of content based > > censorship and censorship based on an unspoken but ever present > > class structure,... > > "Unspoken but ever present class structure"? I wonder how Paul > was able to divine this? Certainly it is unspoken, but that, of > course, it because it does not exist anywhere but in Paul's > fertile imagination. There is a clear trend easily observable on the list whereby certain members postings are censored when their content is of a standard that, if the moderation were objective and based on content alone, would warrant their being sent to the censored list. If anyone here archives all of the list postings or is willing to retrieve them from the archive we can run some statistical tests and comparisons in a few weeks once the sample is large enough, however, the list oberfuhrer and leutenant von Sandfort will claim the statistical correlation between poster reputation among the upper class of list members and the number of their posts let onto the moderated list is caused by persistent flamers so this will not convince them.. > > It is a foregone conclusion that the upper class of list members will > > have no dispute over the censorship and therefore the change will be > > permenant,... > > Great! I thought that hadn't been determined yet. What a > relief. I think you`ll find your poor attempt at making light of the situation does little to hide the fact that this censorship has finally confirmed that this is a private list and is no longer meant to be a free, anarchic discussion forum. I can tell you one other thing for sure, even if the moderation "experiment" were to end in a month as a last ditch attempt by John Gilmore and Sandy Sandfort to recover some of their lost credibility it would be a vain and entirely unsuccesful attempt. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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RE: Fighting the cybercensor
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:00 PM 1/27/97 EST, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >blanc <blancw(a)cnw.com> writes: ... >> 2) Why do you suppose the Iraqis haven't already thought of doing this >> themselves? > >Perhaps because they love Saddam, who really is a great guy. Stop listening >to what U.S.gubmint and media tell you and use your brain. What did >Saddam do to _you? Those of us in the US have the luxery of secret ballots, Iraq is not. What was reported to me (by the media) was that those who decided to vote against Hussein, in a time when food was scarce, decided to vote against eating. It was not made illegal to vote him out, merely a catch 22, unless enough people agreed openly, the vocal minority would suffer. What we should have been doing as the troops pulled out and a no fly zone was being established was dropping bombs full of bread on the populus. Then they could have voted any which way they chose. ... >> Destructive people often ascend to positions of power not simply because >> they are ruthless, but because they have 1) many sycophantic followers and >> 2) many ignorant, vulnerable people unable to prevent it. You might be >> able to kill off one Saddam, but potentially many others would be waiting >> in the wings to take his place. The situation surrounding the existence >> of someone like Saddam is part of the contributing factors which keeps him >> there, not simply that one man himself. It was the same with Hitler and >> with so many others - they don't just have an excess of "power" >> concentrated within themselves which puts them in positions of control over >> others - there will have been many people who will have helped put them >> there, expecting to derive benefits from it. > >I don't like your Saddam example, having much admiration for the man, but >again this goes back to the perceived likelihood of future assassination. >If Saddam is killed in an unlikely event, he will be succeeded by someone >who does not fear assassination. If all potential successors are convinced >that the rubout can be repeated, they won't go for the job. Remember, the >purpose of "terrorism" is not just to kill someone, but to "terrorize". > >> And what will be done about all those people who made this "power" >> possible? You don't just kill the one man and be done with it - you have >> to also "kill" the conditions which maintained him. > >You rub out enough key people and terrorize their potential successors >into not wanting to take over their jobs, and the system collapses. ... I don't remember where I heard this, and in all likelyhood, I heard it here. This is certainly not a direct quote, ant would the origional poster please speak up. There came a time, in some ancient civilization when the king committed suicide by eating poisoned food. In the remaining week, most of the household, apparently in honor of the deceased king, jumped on kitchen knives and butcher knives, killing themselves. The brother of the king would not come out of hiding because some unknown person was terrorizing him with a meat cleaver. After a year, it was apparent that no one in the line of succession still survived, all killing themselves with kitchen utensils. It was rumored that the post was cursed. It was then that the royal galley slave bravely stepped foreward to rule the kingdom until one of the origional line should return. The decendants of the galley slave have ruled to this day. Like I said, I don't know where this came from, but I would like to see it again, if it came from here.

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RE: Fighting the cybercensor
by Phillip M. Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>That's it? The system collapsed because the guards left their posts? >And no mutiny charges? Incredible. I was there. The collapse of East Germany was quite spectacular. There was at most three months of warning. First there was a series of sit ins at foreign embassies, then a migration of large numbers of people in their twenties within the eastern block. I missed the actual collapse of the wall itself having to go to England. I was told of the sequence of events by friends in Berlin. By this time the protestors were confident enough to stage open demonstrations. The authorities had tolerated small scale demonstrations for some time provided they did not appear to be part of a larger movement. The sudden increase in numbers from tens to tens of thousands left the authorities unsure of what to do. They could not be sure of the reliability of the police should they attempt to violently suppress the demonstrations. To imprison the ringleaders was equally dangerous. The communists were aware that the South Africans had continued to be troubled by Mandela and Biko long after they were imprisoned or murdered. At some point a group of protesters approached the wall, probably hoping to goad the police into making an arrest. The guards made no response and the numbers increased to the point where firing of warning shots was impossible without causing a massacre. West German protesters joined from the other side of the wall. The border guards did try to use a water cannon but to little effect since the range was insufficient. At some point someone appeared with a sledge hammer and a pickaxe. Some people say that this was at the start of the protest, others that someone fetched them. I have heard people who believe that they were brought from either side of the wall. They started attacking the wall and soon had removed one of the panels. Next day the border guards quite literally abandoned their posts. The Brandenburg gate was opened for the first time in fifty years and the party apparatus all but collapsed. The only military activity during this period was GDR forces preparing against possible invasion by Soviet forces. Not that this was a logistical possibility since it was unlikely they would get across Poland unopposed. Read Norman Davies book "Europe a history" if you want to find out the background for the velvet revolution. It is one of the most amazing events in political history. It is a pity that people have forgotten so quickly about the real causes. It was not military power that prevailed but the protest movement. Unfortunately US commentators tend to see everything in terms of US cultural norms, many of which were explicitly rejected by the protestors. The East Germans wanted West German affluence, they wanted to be part of Western Europe. They were certainly not responding to US military spending as right wing theorists claim, nor was the economy collapsing because of the arms race, it was collapsing because of the costs of a totalitarian state and the incompatibility of that state with modern industrial organization. Phill

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Re: Handbook of Applied Cryptography
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's the publisher's URL for Handbook of Applied Cryptography, which amplifies Patrick's summary, and gives ordering info. http://www.crcpress.com/PRODS/8523.HTM Just reading the mouthwatering summaries and the extensive, detailed list of topics is a good primer on crypto.

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