December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Robert Hettinga wrote: > At 2:32 AM -0500 on 4/2/98, David Honig wrote: > > http://braggbbs.bragg.army.mil/libs/utils.htm > > has a link to ftp://bbs.bragg.army.mil/library/utils/pgp262.zip > > This is really nothing new. My understanding is that when Kelly Goen posted > the original PGP to USENET, he set the distribution to US only, or at the > very least North America only. With a *.ca address, I'm wondering, in all situations do I follow the US guidelines? Or are some different? As for the "regulation" post, I was going to reply until I realized it was just so she could donate email addresses to her book. -confused cdn-

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Ex-spook tells 2 other countries their codes are toast
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpwh0j.htm Ex-CIA Worker Charged in Spy Case By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- A fired CIA covert operative was charged today with tipping off two foreign governments that the United States had broken their code systems. He was held without bond. Douglas Fred Groat also was charged with trying to extort $500,000 from the CIA in return for not disclosing its secrets. Groat, a 50-year-old bearded and burly man, worked for the CIA from May 1980 through October 1996 but spent the last three of those years on administrative leave. The grand jury charged that he gave secrets about U.S. code-breaking to two foreign governments, which were not named, in March and April of 1997. The grand jury said that Groat attempted to extort money from the CIA began before his alleged turncoat activities and continued after them. The grand jury said the attempted extortion lasted from May 1996 until February 1998. All four espionage counts allege that the spying took place between March 24, 1997 and some time in April 1997. A federal grand jury said in its indictment that Groat gave both foreign countries classified information concerning ``the targeting and compromise of the cryptographic systems of ... (the foreign country) by the United States with intent and reason to believe that said information would be used to the injury of the United States.'' Groat, who was arrested Wednesday night without incident by the FBI, entered a not guilty plea through his attorney, at federal courthouse here, to all five counts against him. Two of the counts carry a maximum penalty of death. Prosecutor Eric Dubelier persuaded U.S. District Judge Norma Holloway Johnson to continue holding the burly and bearded Groat without bail by calling him ``a risk of flight and a danger to the community.'' ``Based on his former employment with the CIA, he is trained in travel and false identity and deception,'' Dubelier said. ``He has no ties to the community and he possesses sensitive classified information'' that could be communicated to foreign nations if he were allowed to go free. Johnson said that a federal grand jury had returned a sealed indictment March 27 which included four counts of communicating secret defense information to a foreign government and one count of interference with commerce. Two of the counts of conveying secrets carry the death penalty. It was not immediately known which countries were involved. Federal officials requesting anonymity said there was more than one. Groat himself did not speak during the 10-minute initial appearance. Muscular and heavy-set with black hair and a mustache, he appeared in court wearing dark blue jail trousers and shirt. He held his hands clasped in front of him as he stood beside his attorney, public defender A.J. Kramer. The judge set a detention hearing for next Thursday. And Dubelier said the government would use the Classified Information Procedures Act to prevent secrets from being disclosed at trial. Groat was the third current or former CIA employee to be arrested for espionage in the last four years. He was fired from the CIA under circumstances that officials would not immediately disclose. They said he held a lower rank than two of the biggest spies ever caught inside the CIA -- Aldrich Ames, who headed counterintelligence against Moscow while secretly working for the Russians, and Harold Nicholson, who was a CIA station chief abroad while selling secrets to Moscow. Ames and Nicholson pleaded guilty in plea bargains with the government. An official familiar with the investigation said the probe into this former CIA employee ``does not rise to the level of the Aldrich Ames case'' in terms of the suspected damage to U.S. security. Ames was arrested in 1994 and was sentenced to life in prison without the chance for parole. Ames gave the Soviets the names of at least a dozen high-level moles inside the Soviet government who were providing information to the CIA. Many of them were arrested and executed based on Ames' information. Nicholson gave the Russians the names of new CIA recruits whom he helped train. Officials said that limited where they could serve later in their careers. The CIA employee in this case worked at the ageny's headquarters in Northern Virginia and it was not clear if he had ever served overseas. The FBI was not seeking any accomplices in the case, but officials would not say whether any foreign diplomats were being expelled from this country. The names of the countries involved with the CIA employee could not immediately be learned. The House and Senate intelligence committees were kept informed of the investigation into the spying charges as it proceeded, congressional officials said today, speaking on condition of anonymity. An official said Senators have been actively involved in following the investigation since its inception.'' AP-NY-04-03-98 1331EST ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu When exponentiation is outlawed, only outlaws will exponentiate.

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by rdonnovan＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Ex-CIA Officer Charged with Spying (fwd)
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nikst wrote: > From nikst(a)glasnet.ru Fri Apr 3 22:08:12 1998 > Message-Id: <m0yLKBy-001A7jN(a)mail.glas.apc.org> > X-SMTP-Spy: Real message sender is nikst(a)glasnet.ru via ppp1575.glas.apc.org > From: "nikst" <nikst(a)glasnet.ru> > Subject: Ex-CIA Officer Charged with Spying > > Friday April 3 5:01 PM EST > > Ex-CIA Officer Charged with Spying > > By James Vicini > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A disgruntled former CIA officer has been arrested on > spy charges > alleging he passed secrets to two foreign nations about how the agency > eavesdropped on their > coded communications, U.S. officials said Friday. > > Douglas Groat, 50, who worked at the Central Intelligence Agency for 16 years > until being fired > in 1996, also was charged with trying to extort more than $500,000 from the spy > agency in return > for not revealing secrets to foreign governments. > > During a brief court hearing, a lawyer for Groat entered a not guilty plea to > the five charges, two > of which carry a possible death penalty. The case was the latest spy scandal to > rock the CIA in > recent years. > > U.S. Attorney Wilma Lewis said after the hearing that Groat participated during > his CIA career > in classified covert operations aimed at the penetration of cryptographic > systems of foreign > governments. > > He allegedly disclosed national defense information concerning the targeting > and compromise of > the cryptographic systems of two unidentified foreign governments to those > governments, she > told reporters outside the courthouse. > > The indictment alleged that he handed over the secrets to representatives of > the foreign nation > "with intent and reason to believe that said information would be used to the > injury of the United > States and to the advantage of a foreign nation." > > "The alleged unauthorized disclosure of these activities could have a > significant impact on the > national security of the United States," said Lewis, whose office will > prosecute the case. > > "This case involves highly sensitive classified information that could have a > serious impact on > the national security of the United States. In short this is a serious > espionage case," she said. > > The alleged espionage took place in late March and April 1997 while the alleged > extortion > scheme began in May 1996 and lasted until February 1998, the officials said. > Groat was > arrested by FBI agents without incident on Thursday. > > After prosecutors warned that Groat may try to flee the country, Chief U.S. > District Judge Norma > Holloway Johnson ordered Groat held without bond until next Thursday, when > there will be > another hearing. > > Prosecutor Eric Dubelier told the judge that Groat had been trained by the CIA > "in traveling in > false identification and deception." > > He said Groat possessed sensitive intelligence information which could cause > "grave damage" > to national security if disclosed. > > Groat, who was dressed in dark-blue prison clothing, stood before the judge > during the hearing > with his hands behind his back. Groat once conferred with his court-appointed > lawyers, but > never said anything during the proceeding held under unusually heavy security. > > George Tenet, the head of the CIA, said in a statement the full extent of any > damage to national > security has yet to be determined. > > "The charges against Mr Groat are extremely serious," Tenet said. "His arrest > demonstrates that > the U.S. government will not rest in our efforts against those who would commit > espionage ... > nor will we be intimidated by threats of blackmail." > > Groat worked as a technical officer in the CIA's Directorate for Science and > Technology. He > last had access to classified information in 1993, when he has placed on > administrative leave. > > Officials said it will be up to Attorney General Janet Reno to decide whether > to seek the death > penalty in the case. They said the year-old investigation would continue. > > The case is the latest in a series of embarrassing spy cases involving the CIA. > > > CIA turncoat Aldrich Ames was arrested in 1994 and has pleaded guilty to > betraying at least 11 > Soviet and East European agents working for the United States in one of the > most damaging > espionage cases in U.S. history. > > Ames, a career officer who spent much of his 31 years in the CIA in > counterintelligence, is > serving a life sentence in a U.S. prison. > > Confessed double-agent Harold Nicholson pleaded guilty last year to spying for > Moscow, > becoming the highest-ranking CIA officer convicted in a spy case. > > Nicholson, a 16-year CIA veteran who uncloaked students he helped train for > undercover > missions, admitted collecting $300,000 from the Russians. > > ********** > > - Igor.

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Re: V-Chip Reruns...
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A member of the Clinton/Gates ratpack wrote: :While this was a parody, I did recently see a TV news segment :discussing ratings regulations on TV and the Internet. :They interviewed one parent who was quite concerned - :her daughter had her own TV in her bedroom, and there :was no way to know what she might be watching, what with :cable tv carrying all sorts of things..... Sounds like we need some federal, state, county, municipal and local legislation passed in regard to these concerns. I think it should involve felony convictions for both the parent and the child. When criminal records are outlawed, only outlaws will have criminal records...I think... ~~~~ Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> ~~~~ "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/webworld "InfoWar -- The Digital Revolution" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/infowar3 "Space Aliens Hide My Drugs" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/sahmd

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ROTFL!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Do any of you cocksuckers know where the following comes from? URL? A shit-eating grin spread across Dr. Vulis' face as he realized that, this time, he had been caught for doing something he wouldn't be punished for. Rewarded, perhaps? Cautiously, Dr. Vulis asked Igor, "So can I have more medication? All of the others in treatment here are getting better drugs than me, because they are patients being treated by doctors. Why am I the only doctor being treated by a patient?" "Now Dimitri," Igor shook his head, negatively, "you are exaggerating again. You know that John Young and Robert Hettinga are the only two here who are getting better drugs than you, and it is only occasionally, when they share a room, and then only in order to increase their pleasure when they engage inuuhhhCypherPunk activities." Dimitri got angry, as Igor knew would result from feeding his fantasies, "I know what you're talking about!" Dimitri always gotuuhhh'excited', when this subject came up. "They're sucking each other's cocks! This place is full of cocksuckers, and the biggest one of all is cocksucker John <spit> Gilmore <fart>!"

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Re: V-Chip Reruns...
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 4/4/98 8:04 AM, Toto (toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca) passed this wisdom: >A member of the Clinton/Gates ratpack wrote: > >:While this was a parody, I did recently see a TV news segment >:discussing ratings regulations on TV and the Internet. >:They interviewed one parent who was quite concerned - >:her daughter had her own TV in her bedroom, and there >:was no way to know what she might be watching, what with >:cable tv carrying all sorts of things..... > Not to sound like a first amendment basher, but if these parents are worried about what their daughter is viewing on her own TV in the bedroom, why don't they take it the hell out of there and have her watch TV in the family room. The implication is that she is young enough for them to be concerned about her impressionability. If she is that young, isn't that simply good parenting? Seems to me like a no brainer ... but then again, what the hell do I know .. I raised four kids (youngest 16) who all seem to have their heads on reasonably straight and have yet to be named in any indictments. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEUAwUBNSZpqj7r4fUXwraZAQFzswf3Q/qvIBVtGf935EiVL2QMPOucfx1WiOAv 3X1j1d5J58hFoLjdOEtCXCkMj0EecugXd9gL47bAW+HTBAD5h2rNKvyvoWCwksn2 EcYPj/1GMweMUUrfHwQ/TNVdkMRF0zTN3zVItwDlrIWqdpLSfzoWea/kWOuI2mNz g8zwBz8L/AfEPeqJVhTpPtLnDsxaHuYioSliPdGc8Vwt2k+56axScqgXhysivjpI SOhStm9LiJrkkTo2h15MwbSJWlWMt+HTs9Rmt+QGq72cba+sXIcsNoYn0NpG0mVJ QIM3ZS93vCJuH7W4FxoirmZrwoG1NZtFLGmlMZMTfKxhI0Ca7kU9 =anJu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "But it is said: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." - Gildor (_The Lord of the Rings_, by J.R.R. Tolkien)

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HIRF/EMI Source
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The USAF's 22-volume 1996 investigation of the Ron Brown plane crash supposedly offers in Volume 2 one of the best unclassified recent accounts of High Intensity Radio Frequency (HIRF) and electromagnetic interference (EMI). We've been told that the report's available only in hardcopy from the Air Force -- a few copies were publically released in June 1996 at a Pentagon press conference. We'd like to get a copy of Volume 2 to scan the HIRF and EMI parts but cannot locate the proper office for a request -- www.af.mil does not appear to offer the report. We'd appreciate hearing from anyone who might have access to Volume 2 and would be willing to loan or know how we can get it. ----- State's Jamie Rubin yesterday confirmed Russia's SIGINT operation at Lourdes, Cuba but declined comment on the US counterpart. Dave Emery wrote about this awhile back: http://jya.com/rusigint.htm Someday we might learn what the US military knows about EMI attacks on critical infrastructure, planes, ships, trains and limos -- theirs and ours.

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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by FBI＠FBI.GOV 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Perhaps the most defining feature of the CypherPunks was that they strove to 'walk their talk', as the saying was in those days. While they decried the increasing infringement of central authority on the freedom and privacy of the individual, which was near its zenith at that point in time, they chose to fight for the right to be self-willed, rather than to impose their will and beliefs on others. "Instead of concentrating their efforts on forcing the authorities to acting rightly, in the interests of freedom and privacy, they focused on routing around the impositions and infringements that the governments and dark forces of that era enacted to try to contain them. "John Gilmore, one of the CypherPunks founders, often said, 'The InterNet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it.' Very Taoist." Bubba concluded. Jonathan spoke softly, quoting a section of the Tao Te Ching which had been a particular favorite of his grandfathers, "A man of Virtue performs his part, "But a man without Virtue requires others to fulfill their obligations. "The Tao of heaven is impartial. "It stays with good men all the time." http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix

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17 Dec '03

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April Fool ! / Off-schedule, off-topic, or out-of-sync?
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Strange things happen when one gets sucked into a BlackHole TimeWarp filled with imaginary Outlaw Quarks and PseudoReptilian Identity-Bots. When this happens, and you just have to *tell* somebody, there is nowhere to turn except to the CypherPunks Disturbed Male List, where this kind of thing seems to happen all the time, judging from the multi-dimensional personalities displayed by various list members in both their 'consistent' (hee-hee) and 'adjustable' list personas. I woke up this morning to discover that my world had been turned upside down by the ancient ancestor and fortuitous forerunner of the Y2K Bug--the H1H Mite. The H1H Mite, kissing cousin to the Snipe, exists only in men's minds (hence its proximity to April 1st) but, like the infield-fly rule, it is recognized as a living, breathing entity deserving of recognition, regulation, and even it's own pseudo-jingle--"Spring forward, fall back." Having spent a good part of my life living in Arizona and Saskatchewan, where we, like the sun, moon and stars, sit back on our lazy asses while the majority of the world is springing forward and falling back through the time-space continuum, I am used to watching huge masses of people 'gain' and 'lose' a piece of the solar time-pie to the Tick-Tock TimeWarp and jump through the various hoops necessary to make certain that the Sacred Clock of Tick-Tock is not fooled into shorting or longing (?) the various elements of Sacred Time, such as paychecks, billing periods, interest charges, etc. When I saw my computer clock had 'sprung forward,' even though it does not contain any of the springs and such which are historically an element of Sacred Time, I took the time to jump into the appropriate area of my system and hit it hard enough so that my clock 'fell back' to where Mother Nature had intended for it to remain. I also took the time to solve my H1H Mite problem by re-clicking the code-generated symbol which graphically rearranges the rest of the virtual world so that the (GMT -6:00 No Daylight Savings) Sacred TimeZone hovers over my computer and pronounces it to now officially be in Saskatchewan, though I, personally, never saw it move. The H1H Mite did cost me a bit of time and trouble to eradicate, as well as a small amount of computer resources, but,. enterprising genius that I am, I did not lose the ranch, the family fortune, or even miss a meal, as a result of the having to deal with the little critter on my own in-house computer system. The effect of the H1H Mite on the part of my environment which falls outside of my control, however, had potentially devastating consequences. Upon waking this morning and checking Channel 10, which shows the currently scheduled TV shows, I quickly noticed that the Preview Channel Sacred Clock had 'sprung forward,' dragging the schedule along in its wake. The stability of my whole world was, as a result, thrown into complete turmoil, and it was only a few hours later, when some Blessed Angel of Mercy corrected the situation, that my world regained some semblance of normality. Now I understood how the people who are used to watching Jerry Springer in the mornings on WUHF-TV felt when the station moved the show to the afternoon, in order to herd Jerry Springer fans into the trough next to their Sacred Five O'Clock News feeding pen. The experience of turning to a certain channel to watch a 'listed' show and stumbling into a BlackHole in which I was subjected to the sights and sounds of unusual and/or unfamiliar combinations of electronic bytes flying by had struck such terror into me that I now understood why Jerry Springer's morning fans had deluged WUHF-TV with demands that the show be switched back to its normal morning schedule. It also explained an event that I had witnessed, and had thought rather 'normally bizarre' at the time, in terms of the vulnerability of those addicted to the ElectronOpiate when threatened with the disruption of their scheduled fix. The VicePres/GenMan of WUHF-Detroit had, during an important, highlighted Editorial Sight&Sound Byte, solemnly explained to the JerryJunkies that the purpose of the time-move had been to prop up the station's Sacred Five O'Clock NewsTeam, which apparently was not serving a 'slop' of sufficient quality that would entice FreeRanging TVSheeple to be attracted to the trough from wherever else they happened to be grazing at the time. He proceeded to explain that they had moved their most popular feeding pen next to their Sacred NewsFeed Trough in order to make the trough the easiest choice for those who had not been sated by the physical and emotional violence of the Jerry Springer Feeding Pen, and wanted to drink up the blood and chew on the pieces of flesh thrown into the Sacred Five O'Clock News Trough. What I found bizarre and troubling was that the BigShot then proceeded to sound genuinely hurt that the station had--in moving the show back to its morning time slaught (not a typo) out of a genuine concern arising from the painful bleats of the many TVSheeple who cried out to the station in agony when their JSFix failed to arrive on time--somehow become 'victimized' in the process.Taking a page or two out of the PBS fundraising encyclopaedia, he pointed out that, in view of the fact that WUHF-TV had acted so self-lessly in coming to the aid of those who the station was generously providing with their MorningFix, that WeTheSheeple were now somehow obligated to repay that generosity by getting their EveningFix from the WUHF-TV connection, even if it meant leaving their current grazing area near a NewsFeed Trough with superior swill, and supporting WUHF-TV's EveningConnection, even though the NewsFix they provided would not provide a NewsBuzz comparable to that of their competitors. Not only were the subliminal digital implants of the PBS GuiltMobile blatantly being hijacked for the use of a commercial TV station, but the BigShot from ProfitTV also invoked the unspoken VeiledThreat that, if the TVJunkies failed to comply, there was the possibility that the Sheeple would no longer have their JerrySpringerFix Connection to kick around any more. As a result of being tossed back and forth in unfamiliar virtual territory as a result of the intrusion of the H1H Mite in my life, I found myself objectively viewing the Sight&Sound Bytes that passed randomly through my perceptive field, without benefit of the usual AutoProgrammed ThoughtHelper spices been added to the mix of the slop being served up to my normally nondiscrimatorial palete. Thus it was that, not being preprogrammed and already caught up in the 'story' being promoted by the narrators of a women's tennis tournament in South Africa, I was able to notice that the woman who lost the championship match seemed to take it as a matter of stride when she came up short, as well as the shit-eating grin she had on her face when the SecondGuy expressed regret for having to hand her a check for only $60,000, and then proceeded to give an unusually deep and prolonged advertising sound-byte for the loser's skill, character, and value to her country. I also found myself able, not having been hypnotized into believing anything the narrator's voices told me, to connect the dots between various facts which quickly became obvious. 1. This was a Special Anniversary of the Tournament. 2. This was the first time a homegrown Cinderella had won the tournament. 3. The Story Book Ending (TM) was worth a fortune to the club, country and sponsers. 4. Cinderella had entered the tournament "to practice." She came out of nowhere, to win. 5. Her opponent in the final committed 51 "unforced errors" in two short sets. 6. Ms. Cinderella was backed by the deep pockets of Nike. I find it notable that the short reality-shock delivered by my cable company's fumbling of the ball in dealing with the H1H Mite, for a relatively short period of time, could result in my being roused from my comfortable TVReality Slumber to the extent that I would be forced to use my senses to interpret the information input being digitally transferred to my brain, instead of having it automatically pre-categorized for insertion to the proper VirtualReality Slot. The Automatic Doors of Perception slid open so widely that I could now recognize the operation of universal human qualities and impulses which are normally veiled from our consciousness by the fog of the repetitively banal OfficialStory to which we are invariably subjected to by those we have chosen as our RealityReporters, be they reporters, columnists, advertisers, spin-doctors, authority-figures, or whatever... In the disorientation of my Regular Programming (pardon the pun), I could clearly see the same human quality of conscience, and impulse to confess, that results in: 1. Criminals unexpectedly facing questioning by Mr. GoodGuy and Mr. BadGuy, and letting leak details of the Forbidden Truth in regard to the crimes they have committed because of the remaining vestiges of resistance that their TrueSoul has to THE LIE. 2. Tennis champions unexpectedly thrown into the limelight letting leak the fact that their victory was the direct result of their opponent's unperterbed demeanor in handing them the championship on a silver platter. Tournament Chairpersons being unable to speak a single sentence without some unconscious reference to the tremendous promotional and monetary benefit resulting from Cinderella taking center stage in the GreatPlay which had just been 'produced.' 3. TruthMongers with a history of laughing at the stupidity of the AutoProgrammed Sheeple becoming so shell-shocked and disoriented by a minor disruption of their normal routine that they let leak the fact that they are merely a member of an equally programmed Sheeple of One Cult which considers itself to be a cut above those who the MindMasters are carving into steaks in preparation for their being fed to the insatiable appetites of the PowerMongers. All of which leads me to wonder: 1. If the minor glitches resulting from the H1H Mite are capable of such radical reorientation of the Automatic Doors of Perception in an Elite Sheeple such as myself, then what will be the capacity of a vastly more encompassing Millennium bug for causing members of the Great Herd to lose their bearings and turn into a disoriented, scattered mass so desperate for a Savior (TM) to show them back to their comfortable feeding pens that they are willing to ignore the slaughter houses being built beside them. 2. How many of the Sheeple, forced by circumstances to look up from the feeding trough, will notice what big eyes and teeth the SheepHerders have, and realize that their self-interests might be better served by engaging in an evolutionary mutation into a more predatorial species. 3. Will a Silver Bullet kill a Vampire Clock which sucks an hour out of Sacred Time? 4. How many Silver Bullets does it take to kill a Millennium Bug? "Harassment and oppression are a small price to pay for living in the land of the free." ~ Nuclear PowerMonger (Homer's boss, on 'The Simpsons') ~~~~ Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> ~~~~ "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/webworld "InfoWar -- The Digital Revolution" http://bureau42.base.org/public/infowar3 "Space Aliens Hide My Drugs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/sahmd

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Re: What's up in SASEBO, or Don't Tug The Beard
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young, separating FACT from FUD, wrote: :David Honig wrote: :>From: "George Martin" <gmartin(a)usonet.ne.jp> :>>Maybe you should've checked out the url to see if it was :>>valid before you shot your mouth off in public... The file :>>was removed quite a few months ago and was never download :>>by anyone outside of the .mil domain. Take your :>>troublemaking somewhere else. :>I of course informed him that he was mininformed or uninformed. : :Correct, David. Following your notice, we saved Ft. Bragg's :utility listing on April 2 and downloaded its military-grade pgp262 :for patriotic display in the public interest at: : : http://jya.com/pgp-mil-export.htm It mystifies me as to why government FUD disseminators seem to think that they can spread Fear, Uncertainty and Disinformation on the InterNet with the same blatant disregard for the facts that they employ in feeding their mainstream media pets. The problem with the wild animals free-ranging on the InterNet, of course, is that not all of them have yet been domesticated and de-fanged. They can, and will, byte back. The problem that the InterNet poses for those government administrations and agencies that desire to extend the unconstitutional rule of fear and oppression into its bosom is thus: "The InterNet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." ~ John Gilmore A mountain of lies by unethical, self-serving government entities is incapable of blocking the access of the citizens to the millions of molehills strewn about the InterNet which are capable of bringing the garbage that the government buries underground to the surface, where the sight and stench of it will be available to those who wish to know the truth. The government does not have the resources to intimidate and persecute the millions of individuals who are capable of placing hard evidence of government lies on their website, or of stopping the legal dissemination of US Forbidden Information (TM) to foreign countries, such as Canada, and the legal forwarding of it to a variety of countries around the world through a Canadian ISP, such as Sympatico, I amazes me that a US citizen is subject to imprisonment for sending the same material to a foreign country that she can legally send to the email addresses of foreign nationals and foreign embassy employees within the US. It particularly amazes me that those who manage to get elected to high office by promising to be 'tough on crime,' and who stress the need for the citizens to be protected from savage crimes--such as, say...murdering those in authority--by labelling as criminals and punishing those who do such things, would be so eager to enact so many far-reaching laws that an increasing majority of the citizens are, in fact, becomimg criminals and thus have increasingly little to lose by resisting the government's declared intention to punish them. The government goes to great pains to convince the citizens that violence and killing is justified when it is directed toward The Bad Guys (TM). Well, when you become a criminal, guess who The Bad Guys (TM) are... ~~~~ Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> ~~~~ "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/webworld "InfoWar -- The Digital Revolution" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/infowar3 "Space Aliens Hide My Drugs" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/sahmd

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Leahy's Crypto Wake-up Call
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt from Congressional Record, April 2, 1998: WAKE-UP CALL ON ENCRYPTION Mr. LEAHY. In my view, encryption legislation should promote the following goals: First, legislation should ensure the right of Americans to choose how to protect the privacy and security of their communications and information; Second, legislation should bar a government-mandated key escrow encryption system; Third, legislation should establish both procedures and standards for access by law enforcement to decryption keys or decryption assistance for both encrypted communications and stored electronic information and only permit such access upon court order authorization, with appropriate notice and other procedural safeguards; Fourth, legislation should establish both procedures and standards for access by foreign governments and foreign law enforcement agencies to the plaintext of encrypted communications and stored electronic information of United States persons; Fifth, legislation should modify the current export regime for encryption to promote the global competitiveness of American companies; Sixth, legislation should not link the use of certificate authorities with key recovery agents or, in other words, link the use of encryption for confidentiality purposes with use of encryption for authenticity and integrity purposes; Seventh, legislation should, consistent with these goals of promoting privacy and the global competitiveness of our high- tech industries, help our law enforcement agencies and national security agencies deal with the challenges posed by the use of encryption; and Eighth, legislation should protect the security and privacy of information provided by Americans to the government by ensuring that encryption products used by the government interoperate with commercial encryption products. Do you agree with these goals? Mr. ASHCROFT. Yes, I agree with these goals and will look to these same items as a reference point for the drafting, introducing and passage of encryption reform legislation. Mr. LEAHY. Would the Senator agree to work with me on encryption legislation that achieves these goals and that we could bring to the floor this Congress? Mr. ASHCROFT. Yes. I believe it is critical for us to address this issue and soon. I also believe that we should work together to produce a piece of legislation that demonstrates our position on encryption policy. ----- Full remarks: http://jya.com/wakeup-call.txt (18K)

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Nobody's Mouth
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A REAL "nobody" writes (behind the list's back) - "Have you gotten rid of that stansquncr virus yet? You know, the one where you've been sucking dick for $5 crackrock? Guess not." and "Your parents should have fucking killed themselves for having offspring like you." "Nobody", I'll tell this to you (at least) once - Not only do you not seem to understand the simple nursury rhyme - 'Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me', you don't seem to understand that I do. Your friend, Stan the Liberal ===== KPFT 90.1 FM Houston this Wednsday night at about 9:15!

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17 Dec '03

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Re: An apology...
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:31 PM 4/6/98 +0900, Martin, FCC George wrote: >Mr Honig, > Further investigation this morning when I got to work shows that >your post was correct. Apparantly the file only dissappeared a couple of >days ago. My apologies for my hasty words and even hastier actions. Next >time I'll choose a source that doesn't have anything to gain (or lose) by >misrepresenting the facts. Again, my apologies. > >Regards, >George Martin > Indeed. So that we can prevent this from happening again, I'll reveal my deadly hacker tools. Alta Vista and Beer. If that weren't enough, I wasn't even looking for a .mil site. I was looking for pgp tips. If you try http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&stq=10&what=web&kl=XX&q= %2Bpgp+%2Btips+%2B.mil+bragg+fort&navig90.x=10&navig90.y=5 you'll find that Alta Vista's "Scooter" robot is the troublemaker. As to his or her motives, you'll have to search for yourself. As far as "choosing a source that doesn't have anything to gain (or lose) by misrepresenting the facts", well, damn, if that doesn't seem to be the pot calling the kettle black. At least you replied from a .mil address this time, so I don't feel I'm replying solely to some USO hack. honig(a)alum.mit.edu Why is the CIA is so full of spies?

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Gao Chaos Cypher
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR ENCRYPTING AND DECRYPTING INFORMATION USING A DIGITAL CHAOS SIGNAL Patent Number: 5,696,826 Date of Patent:Dec 9, 1997 Inventor: Zhenyu Gao Appl No:488,088 Field:Jun 7,1995

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