December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re:Anonymous remailers mentioned in CDA decision
by mccoy＠communities.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Raph quotes a few bits of the CDA decision: [..] > 22. Arguably, a valid CDA would create an incentive for overseas > pornographers not to label their speech. If we upheld the CDA, > foreign pornographers could reap the benefit of unfettered access > to American audiences. A valid CDA might also encourage American > pornographers to relocate in foreign countries or at least use > anonymous remailers from foreign servers. It about jobs, that's it... Let's keep America a major power in the pornography industry (I can just imagine the commercial :) jim

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Born Classified
by samlb＠baynetworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to "The Codebreakers" (if memory serves me), in about 1943 the U.S. and the U.K. negotiated a BRITUS treaty, the details of which were very secret. I think that this was the original agreement to share the British Enigma cryptography results, and possibly the U.S. nuclear results. Further, I suspect that one of the provisions of the BRITUS treaty was that all of the crypto stuff be treated as if British Law (i.e. the Official Secrets Act) ruled -- everything was secret unless and until the Government said it wasn't any more. This was mildly unconstitutional at the time, but could be gotten past the courts on the excuse that the Constitution defines treaties as "The Highest Law of the Land". It has certainly led to a lot of abuses since, but the bureaucrats love it -- "born classified", indeed! Does anyone on the list have any info -- or references -- that would serve to confirm or deny my guesses? adTHANKSvance samlb(a)baynetworks.com

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Re: Britain to control crypto - official (fwd from Usenet)
by Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert Hettinga wrote: > > > The British government quietly announced yesterday that it will > > legislate to restrict crypto. This could be a problem. The government is pretty burned out having run out of ideas a long time ago. Interferring with areas the people understand little of is a way to avoid making worse mistakes. Given that we have the worst Home Secretary this century there is little hope that civil liberties will play any part in any legislation. For those that don't follow UK politics the government has been methodically extinguishing civil rights such as the right to demonstrate in public and the right of a defendant to premptory challenge agains jurors (the prosecution retains the right). The key question is how urgently the govt intends to press the point. If they attach a provision to pre-election criminal justice bill then expect a really half baked clause. If they go for public comment gathering proceedures then the govt. is likely to be out of office before anything happens. With less than half the public support of the opposition Bob Dole stands more chance of election than the British Tories. > Does anyone here have any idea what this does to british-affiliated states > like Anguilla, or the Caymans? Nothing in the case of most dependent territories. Most territories are either entirely self governing or have some body which "assists" the govenor. Given that we have yet to unify English and Scottish law the process of making laws is quite complex. Presumably the govt intend to pass laws covering the whole of the UK, what mechanism they choose for this we will have to wait to find out. I would expect the Caymans to act to protect their tax-haven business. This could mean that they are pro crypto (increase effectiveness) or may mean that they go anti to avoid being seen as money laundering havens and invite Cuba style sanctions acts. Phill

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Quickremail update
by Mark M. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have now released Quickremail v1.0. This fixes a lot of the bugs present in the beta version. Some of the bugs were serious, so I would suggest getting the newer version. It is available at http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/quickremail.1.0.tar.gz . - -- Mark =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= markm(a)voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xe3bf2169 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 "In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." -- Friedrich Nietzsche -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMb87I7Zc+sv5siulAQE8dQP/Rrzvd4T/4vF5/KUmPA1mrhxxl+7Mosud OqykU7Bcg5lMezYuW51eaHlQVqgeMhLaFopXth4su3S9DHB+wv1rYwo4rh8G4Gt9 h0EQ4ekhVi4tzzM1VChdkIE/ZrddvcqSoIvZqGOjv8UrvWxXoKoNQ65IKB+UHvvC MQAZGT5KvUM= =Gycx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: CDA decision TOMORROW 9 am! (fwd)
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:47 AM 6/12/96 +0000, Omegaman wrote: >Guess I was logged in at the right time this morning. Judges ruled >3-0 that the CDA is unconstitutional. hooray. > >I thought a little rejoicing was warranted. :) > >me >------------------------------------------------------------ > Omegaman <omega(a)bigeasy.com> > PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 > 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 >------------------------------------------------------------ > > :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> My page- http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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Re: whitehouse queries files on political enemies
by Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Frantz wrote: > > OBCrypto: William Safire, in his 6/10/96 column on this subject, says, > "Under Freeh, the anti-encryption zealot hand-picked by the man whose name > was used on the phony requisitions, the Justice Department's most > confidential file room has become a walk-in closet for White House pols." Well Safire should know about Nixon type dirty tricks, after all he worked for Nixon as a speachwriter and wrote a book about it:- http://econ158.berkeley.edu/williamsafire.html http://econ158.berkeley.edu/haldeman.html >From a pro-crypto point of view it is more advantageous to accept the administration position that the requests were made in error. After all that demonstrates that the govt. is not capable of admininistering sensitive information properly even when it is what must surely count as the most sensitive information the govt. tracks. If the system is ineffective in protecting the files of the party workers of opposed factions then it is unlikely to protect the secrecy of less sensitive files. This aside the general problem is one of authorisation. The current USGovt security system is based on principles of security clearances and "need to know". But how does the guardian of various personal files know _who_ needs to know? This is a _very_ hard problem, one that I for one would like an answer to. Unfortunately the USGovt is not like a computer system where the authorisation policy for information is enforced via ACLs or the like. Perhaps it should be Phill

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121. Anonymity is important to Internet users who seek
by strick (henry strickland) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From the CDA decision: ( http://www.vtw.org/speech/decision.html ) Anonymity 121. Anonymity is important to Internet users who seek to access sensitive information, such as users of the Critical Path AIDS Project's Web site, the users, particularly gay youth, of Queer Resources Directory, and users of Stop Prisoner Rape (SPR). Many members of SPR's mailing list have asked to remain anonymous due to the stigma of prisoner rape. Anonymous remailers are mentioned in this secction: Obstacles to Age Verification on the Internet 90. There is no effective way to determine the identity or the age of a user who is accessing material through e-mail, mail exploders, newsgroups or chat rooms. An e-mail address provides no authoritative information about the addressee, who may use an e-mail "alias" or an anonymous remailer. There is also no universal or reliable listing of e- mail addresses and corresponding names or telephone numbers, and any such listing would be or rapidly become incomplete. For these reasons, there is no reliable way in many instances for a sender to know if the e-mail recipient is an adult or a minor. The difficulty of e-mail age verification is compounded for mail exploders such as listservs, which automatically send information to all e-mail addresses on a sender's list. Government expert Dr. Olsen agreed that no current technology could give a speaker assurance that only adults were listed in a particular mail exploder's mailing list.

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Re: No Kidding
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The absence > of governmental regulation of Internet content has unquestionably > produced a kind of chaos, but as one of plaintiffs' experts put > it with such resonance at the hearing: > What achieved success was the very > chaos that the Internet is. The > strength of the Internet is that > chaos.[23] > > Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of > our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the > unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. This is beautifully eloquent. I hope it will be persuasive with the Supreme Court. Does anyone know which witness came up with the quote above? Obviously it resonated with the judges. Hal

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UK's Trusted Third Parties
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to Professor Denning's pointer to this URL for the UK's Trusted Third Parties regulatory intent. http://dtiinfo1.dti.gov.uk/cii/encrypt/ June 11, 1996 STATEMENT ON HMG POLICY CONCERNING USE OF ENCRYPTION ON PUBLIC NETWORKS PAPER ON REGULATORY INTENT CONCERNING USE OF ENCRYPTION ON PUBLIC NETWORKS 1. Summary The Government recognises the importance of the development of the Global Information Infrastructure (GII) with respect to the continuing competitiveness of UK companies. Its aim is to facilitate the development of electronic commerce by the introduction of measures which recognise the growing demand for encryption services to safeguard the integrity and confidentiality of electronic information transmitted on public telecommunications networks. 2. The policy, which has been decided upon after detailed discussion between Government Departments, involves the licensing and regulation of Trusted Third Parties (hereafter called TTPs) which will provide a range of information security services to their clients, whether they are corporate users or individual citizens. The provision of such information security services will be welcomed by IT users, and will considerably facilitate the establishment of, and industry's participation in, the GII, where trust in the security of communication has been acknowledged to be of paramount importance. The licensing policy will aim to preserve the ability of the intelligence and law enforcement agencies to fight serious crime and terrorism by establishing procedures for disclosure to them of encryption keys, under safeguards similar to those which already exist for warranted interception under the Interception of Communications Act. 3. The Government intends to bring forward proposals for legislation following consultation by the Department of Trade and Industry on detailed policy proposals. [Balance snipped] ---------- Professor Denning also has comments dated June 11 on the NRC cryptography report: http://www.cosc.georgetown.edu/~denning/crypto/NRC.txt

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HACKERPUNKS-OWNER ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As we expected - our Announcement-posting generated a number of lame Followups. Our Answers follow: in LACC-Diggest Bill Unruh <unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca> wrote: >Actually if I were a "haker" I would be far more worried that this is actually >a FBI/CIA/NSA/... run site. It sure would be a convenient way to pick off >whole loads of self styled hackers and tie them in to ongoing investigations. >"nobody can find out who hides behind alpha.c2.org accounts" >or who hides behind alpha.c2.org HACKERPUNKS-OWNER ANSWERS: Actually if you were a "haker", you should be worried REGARDLESS of who runs this List: FBI/CIA/Stasi agents can trivially create an alias like FBI(a)alpha.c2.org and SUBSCRIBE to this List. They would know all Information that is available to the List-owner, except the subscriber-list. But, the subscriber-list is useless because of Anonymity. Even if alpha.c2.org were an FBI run Site, its Users must use Anonymous-remailers to access it. That preserves their Privasy. in Newsgroups David Sternlight wrote: >Remind anyone of the police department that anonymously announced a >resisters' seminar on how to make bombs so they could find out who to >watch? HACKERPUNKS-OWNER ANSWERS: how can they find out who to watch if subscribers are Anonymous?? SINCLAIR DOUGLAS N wrote in cypherpunks: >I don't have a C2 account, and don't really want to pay for one. >I trust someone will put the hackerpunks archives on the web so >the rest of us can read them. HACKERPUNKS-OWNER ANSWERS: alpha.c2.org Accounts are FREE. Ecafe Mixmaster Remailer wrote in cypherpunks: >There was a minor error in my earlier post. If someone were to notice a >node on the internet receiving a bag with L(In)=L(Posted) *before* any >other nodes on the internet, then one could guess that node had a user who >was the owner of Hackerpunks. HACKERPUNKS-OWNER ANSWERS: There is a minor Error in your current Post. L(In) <> L(Posted) because of prepended Headers. For Protection, hackerpunks List receives some Junk-mail, automatically trashed, to create Noise. HACKERPUNKS-OWNER _A_D_V_I_S_E_S_ Sameer Parekh and GhiO to add Code to their Alpha-remailer to insert Random-Size Header 'X-Random-Noise:' before Encryption of Messages sent to Users of alpha.c2.org Accounts. Other Remailers are advised to change the Size of these Header Lines. HACKERPUNKS List-bot adds a Random-size Kookie to every outgoing Message to preserve Privacy of Subscribers.

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PBS show
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey did any of you guys(and ladies) see the PBS show called, Triumph of the Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires in Silicon Valley. I thought it was very interesting and informative. (That's coming from a 13 year with the teachers say have no future) If you saw it I was wondering your feeling on the show. Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> My page- http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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Re: Kaos vs Control
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:34 PM 6/12/96 -0700, Martin Minow wrote: >A copy of the 11th needs to be on everyone's bookshelf. > >Martin. > > > The first volume (at least) of "The Encyclopedia Anglica" is available from The Gutenberg Project. It's the 11 ed. of the Brittanica but the name can't be used. DCF

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Re: Kaos vs Control
by minow＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May writes: > >See, all you doubters, "anarchy" is not so bad after all. > Check out the article on Anarchy in the 11th (or 13th) edition of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica. It was written by Prince Kropotkin as a philosophical argument in favor of anarchy, and the editors saw fit to write a rebuttal footnote referring, as I recall, to the Haymarket (Pullman?) riots. A copy of the 11th needs to be on everyone's bookshelf. Martin.

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Re: PBS show
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:10 AM 6/13/96, Blake Wehlage wrote: >Hey did any of you guys(and ladies) see the PBS show called, Triumph of the >Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires in Silicon Valley. I thought it was >very interesting and informative. (That's coming from a 13 year with the >teachers say have no future) If you saw it I was wondering your feeling on >the show. I caught the show and thought it was pretty good, all in all. I personally despise the term "nerd," but I won't get into that here. (Except to say that "nerds," "geeks," and "dweebs" are terms of insult, and anyone who accepts this labelling by the media and by "jerks" (a comparable term, by the way) is proably just a dweeb anyone, so I guess the term is accurate.) Most of the portrayals of Silicon Valley history was pretty accurate, especially the 1975-78 "Homebrew Computer Club" days. (I used to go to about every other one of these, mainly in '77-78, where I sometimes passed out free samples of the 8080 and stuff like that. A friend of mine at the time was one of the Apple II motherboard designers, and another was the first employee hired by Jobs and Woz. Personally, my first personal computer was a Processor Technology SOL, as I thought the Apple II looked too much like a toy. Shows you what I knew.) The first "Byte Shop" opened in late '75 or early '76, a few miles from my apartment, so I used to go there to see the new machines. This is the store that bought the first batch of Apple Is (not IIs). Mainly I remember the Altair, the IMSAI 8080, the Cromemco Dazzler, and so on. Those were exciting times. But, having worked at Intel during those heady days, and being pretty active these days on the Net, I'd have to say the Web, Net, Java, etc. are *just as exciting* (if not more so) than those days. So, the best years are probably yet to come. (BTW, I also had an ARPANET account in 1973, when there were only several sites as nodes.) Back to the show... Cringely (actually, Stephens) is pretty good at doing sidebars explaining computers. So, a pretty fair history of the industry. Probably the best such show I've seen. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Insults (was: PBS show)
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:26 PM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >I personally despise the term "nerd," but I won't get into that here. >(Except to say that "nerds," "geeks," and "dweebs" are terms of insult, and >anyone who accepts this labelling by the media and by "jerks" (a comparable >term, by the way) is proably just a dweeb anyone, so I guess the term is >accurate.) IMHO the best way to deal with an insult is to make it a badge of pride. This is how my ancestors in revolutionary New England dealt with being called Yankees. It beats hell out of trying to force the rest of the world to call your group something different every 10 years of so, like some groups have been doing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Zimmerman/ViaCrypt?
by Edgar Swank 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bruce Baugh recently posted, *Has there been any news recently about what's going on with commercial versions of PGP? I've been toying with the idea of buying the Windows version from ViaCrypt just to have a PGP that doesn't need to shell out to DOS each time it runs, but I'm curious as to where, if anywhere, things seem to be going. First, unless there's been a new release, the so-called Windows version of ViaCrypt is just a Windows shell that still creates a DOS window to run PGP. It's a pretty good shell, and it's easy to install, but that's about it. There was a big discussion recently on alt.security.pgp about PRZ and ViaCrypt. Apparently Phil now wants to produce his own commercial version of PGP and has "requested" ViaCrypt to sell back the commercial rights under threat of a lawsuit if they don't. Phil disagrees with ViaCrypts new "business" version of PGP which apparently encrypts all messages with an employer-supplied public key in addition to any specified by the employee. ViaCrypt has their side of the argument on their web page. http://www.viacrypt.com/ The basis of the possible lawsuit would be that ViaCrypt violated their agreement not to put any "back door" into any product with the PGP name. Whether the "business version feature" could be defined as a "back door" would be the crux of the argument. -- edgar(a)Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Edgar Swank) The Land of Garg BBS -- +1 408 378-5108

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lambda bulletin 2.08 / French Telco Act puts the Internet in leash
by jt＠freenix.fr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

netizen's --> Lambda Bulletin 2.08 <-- contents French Telco Act puts the Internet in leash + New rules regulating Internet content + First key-escrow encryption rules As the Communications Decency Act was declared unconstitutional yesterday, June 12, the French Parliament (Senate and Assembly) passed a kind of Telco Act a la francaise last week, June 7. This law, aimed at providing new regulations for the telecommunications market (including the end of telephone monopoly in 1998), stresses two interesting points for Internet users : 1) a kind of CDA amendement was introduced en force in the Senate on Wednesday, June 5, just two days before it was voted Friday, at 3 in the morning. 2) the law establishes the first ever key escrow encryption rules created in industrialised countries. It will create trusted third parties (TTPs), private companies taht would keep encryption keys in custody for law enforcement purposes. It turns out that before the vote of the law, French military circles had already choosen which firms would be well suited to be TTP : Alcatel, Sagem and Bertin. All of them are well connected to the French military complex, and ! are all big defense contractors. The amendment number 200 in the Loi sur la Reglementation des Telecommunications (LRT) was sponsored by French Senator Larcher and introduced by French telmecom minister Francois Fillon. At first glance, it depenalizes Internet Access Providers for the content of text, images and documents that they are transmitted. But there is an IF. The condition stresses on that they must conform to future recommendations that will be establish by a French government's council : the Comite Superieur de la Telematique. Created in February 1993, the CST has a mission of regulation of Minitel services (text and voice based services), through a professional code of ethics. The CST will no longer depends upon the French telecom ministry, but will be placed under the tutelage of another famous regulation watchdog : the CSA (A for audiovisuel - a kind of French FCC), aimed at regulating radio and TV broadcasts. The law makes clear that if IAPs don't respond to "black" lists of Internet sites or newsgroups (in case where these sites may be in opposition to French law), the IAP will be held responsible for what it is carrying. These lists will be set up by the CST. Internet organisations and professionnals are scheduled to be members of the new CST -- today, in its "Minitel" form, it has 20 members, magistrates, ministry officials, France Telecom reprsentatives, Minitel providers, family and consumer organisations... So, the French amendment smells like the CDA, with the introduction of a so-called reprentative body. In the U.S. the IAP or ISP must control its content. In France this is a centralised body that will do the job. It feels that the French succeeded in what some in the US dreamt : to give the FCC the power to rate sites or content on the Internet. The French State, once again, plays the Big Mother (mother = the Republic) game with a huge sense of precipitation. Furthermore, the law broke in great haste -- and mess. Because before the amendment 200, telecom minister Fillon established an interministerial commission to work on guidlines and recommendations to enforce French law on the Internet. It came after a Jewish organisation sued IAPs for transmitting neo-nazi propaganda; and early in May, when 2 IAP directors were arrested for one day, and convicted, for transmission of pedophile pictures. The mess comes about because that Fillon didn't wait for the Commission : it was scheduled to publish a report on its work around June 15. Another mess concerns French pro-users organizations. The newly created French Chapter of the Internet Society (ISOC-France) decided, apparently with the government commission's consent, to organize a mailing list consultation on the issue. Another group, the AUI (Association of Internet users), published a report this week about ethics, Internet content selection, and so on. Both organizations were openly ignored by Fillon. He did this even after saying during various interviews that the problem of IAP legal responsability on the Internet will be the result of a "broad consensus". It turns out, however, that a small pressure group of IAPs (the AFPI) were consulted Monday, June 2, and had the opportunity to read the amendment before its final review in the Senate. The IAPs are quite satisfied now, because they didn't want to be treated as "pedophiles" and "neo-nazi" anymore. But they will have to adopt the CST guidelines. During my personnal inquiry of the CST last year, I found some clues to understanding how the CST has been working at regulating Minitel services. The CST has a surveillance assignment on the Minitel market (to ensure that each provider follows deontology principles written in his contract with France Télécom). But surveillance operations are not organized by the CST, but by a small army of France Telecom spook agents in Bordeaux: they are 5 to 8 people regulating hundreds of thousands of services! It is no surprise to learn that France Telecom regularly intervenes in this choice, and that France Telecom itself is a big Minitel provider, through a lot of business affiliates. It turns out that theses spook agents are infiltrating private discussions in adult-oriented forums to check for indecent speech (which may be sanctionned by the CST). Here is what here in France we have inherited to regulate the Internet! The second important point of this Telco Act concerns encryption. France was already the first country in the OECD to forbid an individual to use any crypto system not approved by the French authorities (ie, the military). Thus, PGP-like software were, de facto, forbidden. The new law introduces the first key-escrow regulation. It frees cryptography use ONLY for digital signature; but to ensure privacy of email messages, however, the liberation of use is under condition : to give encryption keys to a so-called TTP. Some confidential reports in the press said that one or three private companies are already on the list to serve as TTPs for the French government. The first is Bertin & Co., an engineering company that has some competence in cryptography, and the others seem to be Alcatel-Alsthom (a big industrial conglomerate in telecommunications, defense and public-works engineering), and Sagem, another telecom conglomerate. It seems clear that all of these companies were choose! n according to their defense expertise and good relations with the French military. The mess is that these choices, if confirmed, have been made before the vote on the law, and even before "applications decrees" were published (they may be prepared this summer). France has no NSA. But some big ideas. (During the oil crisis in the 70's, a government commercial stated : "In France we have no oil. But we have good ideas".)

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

_The Atlanta Journal/The Atlanta Constitution_ 6/13/96 ...From a 1/2 page article: *In Georgia the movement appears to be percolating, too. Robert Costner, president of Electronic Freedom Georgia, says the biggest hurdle his group is trying to clear is the unfamiliarity of legislators with the Internet. Laws like the CDA are passed, Costner said, "because people are afraid of the Internet just as people were at one time afraid of the printing press.*

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New NRC Report Site
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to Replay Web Development's generosity, the full 434-page NRC cryptography report of May 30, 1996 is available at: http://www.replay.com/mirror/nrc/ Our previous URL for the report also links to Replay's site: http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~jya/nrcindex.htm

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NYT on CDA Win
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

6-13-96. NYP, Page One lead: "Judges Turn Back Law To Regulate Internet Decency." In a unanimous decision that celebrated the Internet as "the most participatory marketplace of mass speech that this country -- and indeed the world -- has yet seen," a three-judge Federal panel in Philadelphia yesterday declared unconstitutional major parts of a new law intended to regulate indecent material on the global computer network and blocked the law's enforcement. The three judges called Government attempts to regulate content on the Internet a "profoundly repugnant" affront to the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech. "Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects," Judge Dalzell wrote. http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~jya/cdawin.txt (3 articles) ----- Or, if the http fails, send a CDA_win to <jya(a)pipeline.com>.

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Re: Kaos vs Control
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:31 AM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >I see little chance that people who don't >understand anarchy derives from "an-archy," "no top/leader/highest level," >will become educated.) Unless they choose "anarchy" without even knowing it. As in my Gallup Poll question to "prove" that 90% of Americans are anarchists: "Some groups advocate aggressive violence as a means of achieving social ends. Do you agree with them? Do you advocate aggressive violence as a means of achieving social ends?" So 90% of the population answer "No" and demonstrate that they are either anarchists or don't understand the nature of government. >Good to see the courts reaffirming that "chaos" and lack of control by >authorities is a core part of the U.S. system. Maybe the control freaks of >Europe and Asia who have been charting their own authoritarian courses will >give more thought to ensuring liberty even if it causes more "chaos." One would hope. Perhaps reality will have to do it for them. DCF

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Tripwire and SATAN for Linux
by Steve O 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey guys, Can any one point to where i can get Tripwire and SATAN for Linux? a friend is in dire need. thanks... Steve O Steve O. "True Utopia can only be reached by an uncensored and secure Internet, True Chaos can only be reached by the government, True love can only be reached in the movies." S.O. "Bang your head, Metal Health will drive you mad!" Quiet Riot "Welcome my friend, Welcome to The Machine" Pink Floyd "Lonelyness and Emptiness; Love and Fulfillment; Are all but flashes in the eye of the storm of our tormented soul." S.O.

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Re: Kaos vs Control
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 13 Jun 96 at 10:06, Duncan Frissell wrote: > At 11:31 AM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: [..] > >Good to see the courts reaffirming that "chaos" and lack of control by > >authorities is a core part of the U.S. system. Maybe the control freaks of > >Europe and Asia who have been charting their own authoritarian courses will > >give more thought to ensuring liberty even if it causes more "chaos." > One would hope. Perhaps reality will have to do it for them. Reality never did anything for the (Supreme) Court, and certainly not a lot of politicians. But yes, one would hope... Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: Comments on MicroPayments and the Web
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Mark M." <markm(a)voicenet.com> > I think it would be interesting to see how copyright law will be applied to the > Web if micropayments ever become popular. Would memory or disk caching be > considered fair use? If so, then people could just set up a very large disk > cache and maybe delete it every month or so. It would also be a pretty neat > hack to use a proxy that only cached pages that charged micropayments. > Companies would not make a lot of money from things like this. If disk caching > was not considered to be fair use, people would still turn it on anyway. Where does the money come from to run this proxy? Consider two sites, one which acts as a proxy and cache but which charges something under a penny per page, and another which acts for free. Won't the for-pay site be able to afford a larger disk, more servers, and better net connections? It will be a superior service. Micropayments will allow new services and improved quality over what we have today where we have to rely on charity and advertising as motivations for much of what we find on the web. Hal

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Re: Report from Germany on "backdoor" net-censorship
by um＠c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A short update from Germany: The "ICTF" attorney has half-retracted their announcement on Usenet. "ICTF" is going to be only an advisory group for ECO members. They will make recommendations about newsgroups that might be 'dangerous' to carry, and will only react on individual articles when they are informed about articles that would be illegal to keep on the news servers. The "ICTF" plans to use a modified Cancel message format that will only affect their members' servers. He says that the press release was not addressed to the net (well, they tried their best to hide it...) but to journalists with no clue. Of course, political harm has been done, but I am glad that the Social Democratic Party's net expert has severly critizised this censorship attempt in a press release and on Usenet. For those who can read German (if you can't you'll sure find the most important news on Declan's international censorship page), I have put up a web page on "ICTF" at http://www.thur.de/ulf/zensur/ In September, we will see what they are really going to do other than issuing bogus press releases.

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