December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: SEY_use [NOISE]
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, David Lesher wrote: > > > > > > the concept is interesting... diplomatic immunity is not automatic in > > that it implies diplomatic recognition. does a rogue state enjoy the > > privilege of obviously bogus diplomatic passports? the diplomatic > > passport is a "gentleman's agreement" to facilitate trading intelligence > > officers --sarcastic maybe, truthful? been there, done that. > > A Dip Passport does nothing of the kind. > come on, David. stated and "real" use are often quite different. I meant what I said, literally: "...been there, done that." it's nice to believe that governments are above board --they never have been, and never will be --and Bubba is a prime example. I would buy a used car from Tricky Dick long before I would from Bubba! power is not only corruption, it is _deceit_! BTW, I do not disagree with your "protocol" in the slightest. PNG, and the trading of PNGs has been around ever since the French seemed to their language dominate foreign affairs --however, persona non gratis is rather explicit. and, I still wonder how the host country will treat "bogus" DPs from rogue states if they have more DPs than real citizens. uncle has been getting less suble these days.... > You are awarded stutus by your placement by the host country, on their > Diplomatic List. If you are there, fine; otherwise... Now, you'll never > get on that list without a Dip. Passport & recipricol agreement but it's > not enough... > > Your name can be removed by the host at any time (PNG'ed) but some kind > of warning is necessary so you can leave the host country prior to > expiration of the status. (Not much, however! I recall one case where it > was _literally_ "Be on the 4pm plane, or else.") If you are out of the > country already, you won't be back. (One person was, and his cat became > the ""PNG Pussy"" as she was shipped home the next day.) > > The Dip List being out-of-date caused considerable embarrassment to the > US during our invasion of Panama. Marines raided the Nicaraguan > Ambassador's Residence because the out-of-date copy at the US Mission > showed the _old_ address. > > -- > A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com > & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX > Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 > is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 >

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 15:14 1/1/96, Mike McNally wrote: >Lucky Green writes: > > But how many of them [ IP providers ] will be willing to forward > > certain newsgroups if doing so carries a mandatory 10 year prison > > term? Hint: count the number of narcotics dealers that advertize > > in your local yellow pages. > >But an IP provider doesn't have to know that it's "forwarding" *any* >newsgroups; all it has to know is that IP packets are moving between >my PC and the outside world. It doesn't have any way of knowing what >those packets contain and doesn't want to. Some site in physical space has to host the nntpd, the ftpd, and the httpd. That site will be subject to search, seizure, and arrest and conviction of owner. If you don't have a host, there won't be any packets to forward. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Canadian Cypherpunks [NOISE]
by markh＠wimsey.bc.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Is there some interest in a meeting of Canadian Cypherpunks? If > you are a Canadian (or an American who is fortunate enough to live near > our sainted shores ;-)) send me a private E-mail message. > Because Canada is such a big country, I propose that we start > with a meeting in Toronto or area. If there is enough interest, I will > arrange for a meeting place. I don't think it is any more practical to have "Canadian Cypherpunks" meetings than "U.S. Cypherpunks" meetings. Call them what they are, i.e. regional meetings, (e.g. areas around Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Quebec, Calgary-Edmonton, etc.), but I suspect that most people are unlikely to travel in excess of 3000km for meetings which last a few hours. For example, I expect that Vancouverites are much more likely to travel to Seattle for a meeting than to Toronto. My point is, don't advertise what is really a Southern Ontario regional meeting as the meeting of "Canadian Cypherpunks". This would be like calling the S.F. Bay Area meetings the "U.S. Cypherpunks meetings". -- Mark Henderson -- markh(a)wimsey.bc.ca, henderso(a)netcom.com, mch(a)squirrel.com PGP 1024/C58015E3 fingerprint=21 F6 AF 2B 6A 8A 0B E1 A1 2A 2A 06 4A D5 92 46 cryptography archive maintainer -- ftp://ftp.wimsey.com/pub/crypto ftp://ftp.wimsey.com/pub/crypto/sun-stuff/change-sun-hostid-1.6.1.tar.gz

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CSPAN Currency Creation Hearings
by Wink Junior 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dave Feustel <feustel(a)netcom.com> on talk.politics.crypto mentioned that on Saturday morning CSPAN was broadcasting congressional hearings on "currency creation, during which smartcards, Ecash, encryption, privacy and government regulation of all of the above were discussed." There's supposed to be at least one rebroadcast. A brief review of the highlights would be very interesting. Wink -- winkjr(a)teleport.com

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 17:14 1/1/96, sameer wrote: >> Some site in physical space has to host the nntpd, the ftpd, and the httpd. >> That site will be subject to search, seizure, and arrest and conviction of >> owner. > > Said site, however, can be located in a different jurisdiction >than the laws. Seems to me that the laws are becomming unified on a global scale. The people in power all over the world have the same interests. To stay in power. The 'unregulated' Internet is in direct confilict with this interest. Since these powers make the laws, they will use the laws to reduce the threat the present day Internet presents. Will C2 carry certain newsgroups/info after doing so has become a felony? Who wants to be an 'illegal data' kingpin and face execution? (Kingpins are 'data trafficers' that carry more than 1.5 Megs of 'controlled information'.) -- Lucky -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Who sent me this message?
by andr0id＠midwest.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>:-) As I can see. How did you generate this key? Are you using a >special version of PGP? > Well I didn't send the message but I also use an undocumented larger key with PGP. Read it in the book a friend got. (andr0id(a)midwest.net callsign: N9XLM) ( Computer Consulting & Management ) (P.O. Box 421 Cambria, IL 62915-0421) -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzCsIi4AAAEH/1hb5+tO/n99Nbppf0ImLJ6AaVZ3NlZP0ZHwRQor00uA129i d4zWixNXxc8t2auaqN+asV99LpIip3/nQzBnjydiumeBdGLF2PR9+6X8X/RrqKa1 dVIukxM5Agg2eM6ih+0J38hgKJ3qzKXSz6sjYmpaxvbXZoHHOLUk/ZtHUKvvEyPw hnJEYnut8NUnIeK56lqeqRw86yoeRKymbfCdjdpgeY2aRwK2FJts8sbb7Fs10s4y jgxWIxIipBznbGUTh1hb2XrLGPENwk3E/qqXQJEsrySbtwdl6VgTVQjhDDEJMitL DYeiQ3W5EgxfcdbM1j2FwYu3P/dM6Y0I8xLMYT0ABRG0NmFuZHIwaWRAb2ljdTgx Mi5jb20gKG9pY3U4MTIuY29tIHN5c3RlbSBhZG1pbmlzdHJhdG9yKYkBFQMFEDCs LO90C7R/GkJcSQEB01cH/0KC3sd+u4OxMku5378SJktoN6QIQYLJ7uVbuV4S51yK NAotCGf4Wl6wwjynzZvXKU0H87oDuMiq7FybgMNL2n+4bQIZi0iz0lIuzwoMDu63 NrHUW9Kz42pOnhrEhrdkHhHL9O5GgD1yc40fJ3qw5h7LQEjDxgypyw0IFILFc34u LeRLliNibxKp8JwAxXNHWSgxu28TQvmnkHi0AHP6tJ/uZYe+4dqJtrMMsYFjzZaz DPmxD+dzbTwlQKtJaP1ZkDI0Sr072wrZDv+G86GyGBMX2lpSafpRitnxuUttjU9o wsQ9Qo5xiH1nZRCs/bDzJe/gng+GHzevixDIITurtNA= =SgPT -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 23:30 1/1/96, Andreas Bogk wrote: >So I guess we'll need some computers in outer space, on offshore boats >or in well-bribed stable dictatorships. o Outer space: not very realistic o Offshore boats: see the fate of drug trafficers in international waters after the Coast Guard is through with them. o Stable dictatorships: Not stable enough to withstand an humanitarian mission by the US Army. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Prevention Of Trauma 2 [NOISE]
by joee＠li.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Here's something scary to start your new year. . . ] << start of forwarded material >> ** Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:41:38 -0000 ** Reply-To: "POLI-PSY [ Political Science-Psychology/Psychiatry ]" ** <POLI-PSY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> ** Sender: "POLI-PSY [ Political Science-Psychology/Psychiatry ]" ** <POLI-PSY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> ** From: Michael Benjamin <pmhil(a)SHANI.NET> ** Subject: Prevention Of Trauma 2 ** X-To: Multiple recipients of list FORENSIC-PSYCHOLOGY ** <FORENSIC-PSYCHOLOGY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>, ** Multiple recipients of list LEGALTEN ** <LEGALTEN(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>, ** Stress Traumatic <traumatic-stress(a)netcom.com> ** X-cc: Multiple recipients of list TRANSCULTURAL-PSYCHOLOGY ** <TRANSCULTURAL-PSYCHOLOGY(a)VM1.NoDak.EDU>, ** Traumatic Stress Forum <traumatic-stress(a)netcom.com> ** To: Multiple recipients of list POLI-PSY <POLI-PSY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> ** ** PREVENTION TRAUMA II ** ** In a previous letter I pointed out the need to eliminate ** trauma by prevention. I mentioned that there are generally Agencies ** whose function is to prevent trauma, if it is in industry, military, driving, ** etc. These agencies have criteria for excluding people who they feel ** are liable to mal-function and cause trauma (danger). Often these ** Agencies employ programs to reduced the likelihood of trauma. ** I pointed out that I feel it is legitimate to help these Agencies ** not in defining their criteria but in eliciting the given criteria by the use ** of the techniques which are used in a Diagnostic Setting. I emphasize ** that the presence or absence of these criteria are not indicative of any ** pathology. As such I feel that this discussion does not only belong in ** the field of Forensic Psychiatry but is a legitimate form of treating ** trauma, i.e. prevention. ** In the field of Road Safety in Israel the Institute for Road ** Safety is a medical institute which advises on likelihood of a driver to ** be dangerous. ** The examination is carried out on all applicants for a Public ** License (taxi, autobus), heavy vehicle drivers, and drivers involved in ** fatal accidents, and drivers or prospective drivers who have had ** contact with Mental Health Care. Generally the exams are given by ** Psychologists and are based partially on the M.M.P.I. and a clinical ** examination. More difficult cases are referred to Consultant ** Psychiatrists and an Ad-Hoc Committee. ** The criteria under discussion are mainly:- Concentration, ** Attention, Projectivity, Judgment, Consistency, Reality Jesting, Ability ** to identify , Confirm with instructions, Impulsivity and Control over ** Impulsivity. ** Over the years we have found these to be of primary ** importance and we thus concentrate on illnesses or personality ** disturbance where these criteria may well occur. ** If these indications are discovered we check if they are ** causing driving delinquency. If so, we then determine if there is a ** reasonable likelihood of the patient / examinee being made to ** understand and correct himself. Obviously in some instances this is of ** little likelihood. If these indications are present or applying for a new ** license, the application is rejected. If we allow a "trial" period, the ** position is first explained to the examinee, and we try and ascertain if it ** at all possible that he both understands and is able of "changing his ** ways". ** In addition to the "meeting point" between Forensic ** Psychiatry and "Preventive" Traumatology we feel that we are on the ** delicate meeting point of "Personal Rights" and Societies "Right to ** defend itself". ** We are under perpetual scrutiny, which I feel is justified and ** healthy. I would very much enjoy any comments or suggestions. ** ** ** Michael. << end of forwarded material >> j. ercole <joee(a)li.net> ny, usa pgp public key at: http://www.li.net/~joee/index.html $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$********************&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Stand By---.sig presently being unearthed in regression therapy.

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 15:32 1/1/96, Felix Lee wrote: >Lucky Green: >> Some site in physical space has to host the nntpd, the ftpd, and the httpd. >> That site will be subject to search, seizure, and arrest and conviction of >> owner. > >but if it turns out that 30% of home PCs have to be seized to prevent >dissemination of dangerous-information-X? Wrong. Only 0.03% of the home PCs have to be seized and the owners incarcerated. The remaining users will cease to carry controlled data on their own. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: CSPAN Currency Creation Hearings
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:04 1/1/96, Brad Dolan wrote: >I caught part of it. > >The general theme was,~"we're going to establish a `partnership' with >digicash / crypto firms to ensure that our `legitimate law-enforcement >needs' are designed into the products."~ I sincerely doubt that there will be any 'partnerships' between DigiCash and law enforcement. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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[local] Syracuse new york
by Douglas F. Elznic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Are their any interested people in having a meeting in the syr area?

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Guerilla ISP's...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone looked at operating systems like Plan 9 which divide the services into 3 sets (terminal, file, process) and then distribute them over various machines (and cpu's in multi-cpu systems) on a 'cost' basis? This would effectively address the issue of where named, httpd, or whatever was running. Mainly because it would never run on the same machine (or cpu) each time or necessarily all the time (ie run a while here then over there).

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Re: Guerilla ISP's...
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 20:19 1/1/96, Jim Choate wrote: >Has anyone looked at operating systems like Plan 9 which divide the services >into 3 sets (terminal, file, process) and then distribute them over various >machines (and cpu's in multi-cpu systems) on a 'cost' basis? > >This would effectively address the issue of where named, httpd, or whatever >was running. Mainly because it would never run on the same machine (or cpu) >each time or necessarily all the time (ie run a while here then over there). That is called a conspiracy. The consequence is that all machines involved will be confiscated and their respective owners jailed. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Guerilla ISP's... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:49:28 -0800 > From: shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) > Subject: Re: Guerilla ISP's... > > At 20:19 1/1/96, Jim Choate wrote: > >Has anyone looked at operating systems like Plan 9 which divide the services > >into 3 sets (terminal, file, process) and then distribute them over various > >machines (and cpu's in multi-cpu systems) on a 'cost' basis? > > > >This would effectively address the issue of where named, httpd, or whatever > >was running. Mainly because it would never run on the same machine (or cpu) > >each time or necessarily all the time (ie run a while here then over there). > > That is called a conspiracy. The consequence is that all machines involved > will be confiscated and their respective owners jailed. > Wow, you mean you can prosecute an operating system?

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Paperclip original posting?
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

could someone kindly forward me a copy of the original paperclip symbology posting? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------- "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error." Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954), U.S. Judge <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> My web page: http://www.geopages.com/CapitolHill/1148

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Re: Guerilla ISP's... (fwd)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 21:16 1/1/96, Jim Choate wrote: >Wow, you mean you can prosecute an operating system? Well, you can seize the machine running the OS for the crimes it committed. I am serious. No prosecution needed. Prosecution followed by conviction is what will happen to the owner of the computer on which the OS was running. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:18 PM 12/30/95, Lucky Green wrote: >At best, Cypherpunks can hope to provide the infrastructure that will allow >an underground to communicate semi-securely. We are unable to stop the >global tidal wave of fascism. Let's not waste our time on bemoaning the >freedoms crushed in its path. We have more important work to do. And support your local ISPs! (Or, even better, direct connection to the Net, though this is harder for most of us to arrange.) This CompuServe situation should be a great recruiting opportunity. Cypherpunks in various parts of the country (and outside the U.S.) can get active in local AOL, Prodigy, and Compuserve groups (and maybe even Netcom chat groups, as Netcom is large enough to be a ripe target for harassment by some zealous prosecutor or tort-crazed lawyer, as the Church of Scientology case showed). They can tell the folks about local alternatives. Having lots of small, decentralized providers makes censoring the Net all the harder. Guerilla Internet Service Providers. (I'm not disparaging Netcom. Tom Klemesrud not only fought the CoS, he has also spoken out against CompuServe's action. I just understand that the "deep pockets" effect means that any ISP large enough to register on the radar screens of the statists will be targetted for regulation and sanctioning. Better to have a thousand services, melting into the jungle when the heavy artillery arrives.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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A weakness in PGP signatures, and a suggested solution
by Clark Matthews 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just a note to Dr. Dmitri Vulis -- your post by this name appears to have been forge-cancelled on mail. cypherpunks 1/1/96 at 4:13 EST. Two replies also forge-cancelled. Anybody running lazarus on mail.cypherpunks? Might be an interesting idea. Dr. Vulis, can you repost the item to this list? Best, Clark .---. .----------- * :::::::::::::::::::::::::::: / \ __ / ------ * clark.matthews(a)paranet.org / / \(..)/ ----- * :::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ////// ' \/ ` ---- * //// / // : : --- * PERMISSION TO \\/ / * / /` '--* COPY / REPOST \*/ * //..\\ x-x-UU----UU-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- '//||\\` N E M O..M E..I M P U N E..L A C E S S I T x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 23:35 1/1/96, Jon Lasser wrote: >More work needs to be done on untracable, yet at least modestly >efficient, truly anonymous routing, even in a system where many of the >participants, and perhaps even one of the endpoints, is or is willing to >"cheat." Time to bring up my favorite CP invention of the last years: Wai Dai's Pipenet. Of course running Pipenet would be a felony in the future I forsee, but it sure is a great idea. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by dmandl＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:44 PM 1/1/96, Lucky Green wrote: >At 15:32 1/1/96, Felix Lee wrote: >>Lucky Green: >>> Some site in physical space has to host the nntpd, the ftpd, and the httpd. >>> That site will be subject to search, seizure, and arrest and conviction of >>> owner. >> >>but if it turns out that 30% of home PCs have to be seized to prevent >>dissemination of dangerous-information-X? > >Wrong. Only 0.03% of the home PCs have to be seized and the owners >incarcerated. The remaining users will cease to carry controlled data on >their own. I agree. It's not a good idea to assume that there's going to be some kind of widespread opposition movement when the big Net Crackdown comes. Most people will either obey the law, be unaffected by it, or violate it in very insignificant ways ("net jaywalking"). There's strength in numbers, but I just don't think the numbers will be there. --Dave. -- Dave Mandl dmandl(a)panix.com http://www.wfmu.org/~davem <---Completely overhauled--tons of new stuff

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1/1/96 at 3:11 pm Lucky Green replied to Andreas Bogk about: >>So I guess we'll need some computers in outer space, on offshore boats >>or in well-bribed stable dictatorships. >o Outer space: not very realistic >o Offshore boats: see the fate of drug trafficers in international waters >after the Coast Guard is through with them. What about using converted freighters offshore in international waters for storing the computers? i.e. Sameer the Wolfman Jack of Pirate Internet Services (tm) I was told that Belize is offering passports for the next two years for $50,000 and that might be even less if offers were made to the government to provide low cost Internet access to the citizens of Belize. http://www.belize.com/citzdoc.html Belize has always been known as a home for pirates, A wonderful Cypherpunk candidate for an offshore data haven! L. Malthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMOjOmQJo+wOswDgJAQEdGgP8CzcIf7/p1QS8yYc7uelApYLWcDUHo1AE LHBz4kWg8bdrvWEqck1oIgY/Z+gvr88tKP3l7TDei8y+mJFoqYeSM27aE0ohvS2a XVq7YwbGs+/CKTWJTWsyxwsQEQHyj+Ig7oY+JB76wUN9WTz9pfuwXQ7oaF4RXHcf WqFOXM6ogMA= =0UFR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

m5(a)dev.tivoli.com (Mike McNally) writes: > Dimitri Vulis writes: > > > For how long ... ? > > > > For as long as they're able to provide information and services that > > customers want, which are not available via "generic" small ISP's. > > But don't you think it likely that AOL & Compuserve will soon see the > economic advantage of making their services available (for per-use > fees) to the Internet as a whole? If not AOL & Compuserve, then > certainly the actual content providers themselves. (The NSA may be a > different matter.) > > I don't see why content providers would not be willing to make stuff > available via the internet; they don't have to do it for free. OK, I'm sure we have the nice folks from the National Computer Security Association on this list. Why don't they set up their forum so it's not necessary to have a CompuServe account to access it? --- Dr. Dimitri Vulis Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Guerilla ISP's... (fwd)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 21:20 1/1/96, sameer wrote: >> Prosecution followed by conviction is what will happen to the owner of the >> computer on which the OS was running. > It's hard to jail a corporation. Pretty hard. That's why the corporate officers will be jailed instead. Not that this would be necessary to stop the corporation from operating. The authorities can just confiscating all the equipment and thereby put the corporation out of business. Saves time and trial costs. They just haul off the computers and declare that they are now property of the government. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Jeff Simmons <jsimmons(a)goblin.punk.net> > Subject: Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) > > Punknet is a 'Guerilla ISP'. Twenty of us share a 128k ISDN line, > distributed via high-speed modems. It's been running fine for over > a year now, but Pacific Bell has evidently decided to get rid of us. > > How? Simply by refusing to either repair or replace our 25 pair trunk > line, which is rapidly degrading. We've offered to replace it ourselves, > but according to them, it's illegal. Right now, we've got three dead lines, > and two others that only will do 1200 baud. > Hmmm, you should have some kind of Public Utility Commission (PUC) in your area that regulates the service provider. Here in Texas if SWBT received more than 2 complaints on a single problem without resolution then the customer can request that the PUC force a resolution of the problem. It has the power to fine SWBT on a per day basis until the problem is resolved. I have used the process one time to a successful end. I had squirrels that kept eating my phone lines when I first put in my ISDN and its dial-in lines. SWBT kept comming out and repairing the lines and the squirrels kept eating them. I asked for armored cables and was refused. I kept requesting them (and keeping records). On the next to last time the tech came out I showed him the records and advised him that I wanted armored lines. He said he would advise his supervisor. A week later I had my armored lines (run specialy nearly a block to the tie-block) and the problem was resolved until my roomie burned the house down (the phone lines survived). > We've been told that what they're doing is probably illegal, but it's the > old problem: Where does an 800 lb. gorilla sleep? > > We're fighting this like all hell, but who knows? After they get rid of us, > I wonder who's next ... > You also have the option of starting a civil and criminal claim dealing with breach of contract. Phone companies must provide phone lines that meet minimal standards (3kHz bandwidth / -32dB S/N). If the lines don't then the phone company is responsible for getting the lines upgraded. I rather doubt the phone company wants you out of business, they want your money. It is probably a local supervisor who has a limited budget and staff and is having to set priorities according to their supervisory responsibilities. Get it taken up a level and you might find the climate changes. The FCC is enacting a new regulation that will cause every phone company to provide 100% of their service areas with ISDN (you should have received some kind of notice last week, I did). This also sets some minimum standards as well as to the type and quality of service the phone company must provide. Good luck.

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Errata for _Applied Crypto_
by Wink Junior 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bruce Schneier <schneier(a)counterpane.com> has an errata file for the second edition of _Applied Cryptography_ available on request. Hopefully he will also make it available via the Web. Hats off to Bruce for making this information available in a timely, cost-effective manner. Wink -- "Dilute! Dilute! OK!"

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