September 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

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02 Sep '02

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Carnivore; a toothless tiger.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

The FBI has openly admitted that its agents have difficulties collecting evidence from computers. FBI Director Robert Mueller told a House committee this summer that the agency lacks the technology skills and understanding that would allow agents to conduct complete computer forensics searches. Did FBI Bungle E-Mail Evidence? By Michelle Delio Print this E-mail it 11:55 a.m. Aug. 30, 2002 PDT The FBI may have overlooked a crucial e-mail account used by Zacarias Moussaoui when agents examined computers known to have been used by the suspected terrorist. Moussaoui, now defending himself against terrorism conspiracy charges stemming from his alleged involvment in the Sept. 11 attacks, recently requested that prosecutors turn over their records of messages sent and received through his Hotmail account. Moussaoui claims his e-mail could help him establish his alibi. But the FBI has no records of the account, and an incredulous U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkema now wants to know how the FBI could have searched the computers Moussaoui used and not located any traces of the Hotmail account. In response, prosecutors have submitted a sworn statement from Microsoft stating that the company is also unable to locate any records of Moussaoui's Hotmail account. According to Moussaoui, he was registered with Microsoft's free Hotmail e-mail service as "xdesertman." Moussaoui claims he accessed the account from various computers, including his own laptop, a computer at a Kinko's copy shop in Minnesota, and another computer belonging to the University of Oklahoma. All of these computers were searched by agents following Moussaoui's arrest in August 2001. The FBI has openly admitted that its agents have difficulties collecting evidence from computers. FBI Director Robert Mueller told a House committee this summer that the agency lacks the technology skills and understanding that would allow agents to conduct complete computer forensics searches. Brinkema has also ordered the FBI to file an affidavit stating whether the agency requested help from other government sources when examining the machines Moussaoui used. "The affidavit must indicate why investigators were unable to retrieve any information from MSN Hotmail and/or any other computers or accounts searched," Brinkema wrote in the order. "It must make clear whether any efforts were made to obtain forensic expert services of any other government agencies such as the CIA or NSA to assist in retrieving the information." But the evidence may not have been on the computers by the time FBI agents searched them. When an account is inactive, Hotmail deletes stored messages after 30 days, and disables inactive accounts after 90 days. However, Microsoft has been unable to find records indicating the count ever existed, according to a statement submitted to the court by the company. E-mail sent by Wired News to "xdesertman(a)hotmail.com" bounced back with an unknown recipient error message. But attempts to create a new account using xdesertman as a user name were also refused by the service. Although Moussaoui has a computer in his jail cell for use in preparing his defense, he is not allowed to use the Hotmail service. Brinkema recently ordered that Moussaoui must be allowed to use a computer to connect to a restricted-access website which contains records relating to his case, but has banned him from accessing other Internet sites from his cell. http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,54857,00.html

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Hearing Voices?
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

Hearing voices By Bennett Ring August 30 2002 Icon Text has so far done a good job of communicating our thoughts across the Internet, via Web pages, chat rooms, instant messaging and message boards, but lacks the immediacy, tone and personal touch of speech. It also requires the user to type fluently. That's where VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) applications are handy. VOIP applications, known as voice comms, became popular in the PC online gaming world, where they are still used. Playing with (or against) human beings is one thing, but being able to scream orders and/or taunts at them is better. Team-based games benefit especially; before voice comms, the team leader had to bash out instructions on the keyboard. Once voice comms are set up it's as simple as hitting the transmit key and speaking. One of the largest uses for the technology is as a substitute for the telephone, especially among those who make lots of interstate and international calls. Why spend serious money on an international call when you can chat for hours at a cost of a local phone call to your ISP? MORE ON http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/29/1030508096466.html Wired magazine shelled out for Declans call to me last year,It's so much cheaper online,the only thing is the 1 second sattelite gap.It's a bit like ham radio,I used it to call my sister in NZ.

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by David LaRock 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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by supasayinron＠hotmail.com 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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by Trixie Deleon 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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Re: Mitigating Dangers of Compromised Anonymity
by Adam Shostack 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:12:16AM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: | On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: | | > I'd like to suggest that while this may be fun, usability and getting | > millions of users to see that remailers are useful to them is a more | > useful goal. | | I agree, although I fail to see how working on this would interfere with | that goal in any way. Scarce resources (programmer time) go to this, not that. Given the small pool of people writing code, I'd like to try to convince them to write code that I think is more useful. I'd write it myself, but that just makes work for someone who says "My god, I need to re-write this!" ;) | > The anonymity set provided by the current extant systems is too small | > to protect anyone against anyone who is willing to kill or disappear | > people as part of their attacks against the remailers. | | I find this disbelievable. I suspect there are many groups which do not | have the capability of defeating the remailer system who would still like | to see it eliminated. Willingness to kill or disappear people isn't | necessarily tied to technical capability, though I agree that entities | which can defeat the remailer network without "disappearing" anyone are | unlikely to pose a threat to the remops. If our goal is to make remailers | harder to defeat, however, beforehand might be the right time to address | the problem of "missing remailer operators." Sorry, I think you missed my point a little. Let me explain, then I'll respond to what you said. If Charlie is willing to kill someone to achieve his goals, then he is pretty dedicated. He may be able to trade that willingness to commit violence for technical help, etc. I agree that there are groups who might not be able to defeat the remailer system who'd like it to go away, but its not clear to me how many of them would go to the extent of kidnapping or killing a remailer operator to achieve the goal of getting rid of the remailer system. | (Incidently, I could see this having uses outside the remailer operator | world.) So? | > Oh, yeah, and incidentally, if you build this system, the attacker can | > simply add a bit of rubber hosing to their remop elimination program. | | To pry the signing key out of the victim? That's a personal "how much | torture can I take" question for the victim to ask himself. He knows he'll | be permanently disappeared after coughing up the private key. | | In many cases also it might be far harder to rubber-hose someone than | simply cause an "accident". True, but how many groups are willing to go that far? Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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