September 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Random Privacy
by Eric Cordian 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

Tim wrote: > Not a new idea. Ted Nelson (IIRC) wrote about using coin flips to > randomize AIDS poll questions. ("Have you engaged in unprotected sex?" > Flip a coin and XOR it with your actual answer.) I remember talking to > Eric Hughes, Phil Salin, and others around 1990-91 about this. [snip] > The idea is that the > pollee XORs his answer with a random bit. His answer then doesn't > _implicate_ him, but overall statistics can still be deduced from a > large enough sample. Uh, excuse me?! I can see how such an idea works if you add a random variable with a known mean to the data. A researcher could do this before storing the data, in order to protect the confidentiality of individual respondents, and still be able to compute aggregate statistics. However, if you XOR a bit with a random bit, you have something equally likely to be in either state. Even a large collection of yes/no responses XORed with random bits is indistinguishable from random data. So I am afraid I must give the prior message my coveted "Silliest Thing Said On the Internet This Week" award. <Chortle> -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: Random Privacy
by Tim May 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 09:29 AM, Tim May wrote: > Not a new idea. Ted Nelson (IIRC) wrote about using coin flips to > randomize AIDS poll questions. ("Have you engaged in unprotected sex?" > Flip a coin and XOR it with your actual answer.) I remember talking to > Eric Hughes, Phil Salin, and others around 1990-91 about this. > > (However, IBM is probably busily copyrighting their new invention, > just as Intel copyright their recent "invention" of the anonymous > remailer.) > I meant "patented" in both cases. Part of the continuing idiocy of our patent system, when obvious prior art going back more than a decade counts for nothing in the blizzard of patents. --Tim May

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RE: Random Privacy
by Blanc 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

Said Greg Vassie: >> "Right now, the rate of falsification on Web surveys is extremely high," >> says Dr Ann Coavoukian, the commissioner of information and privacy in >> Ontario, U.S.A. "People are lying and vendors don't know what is >>false [or what is] accurate, so the information is useless." > >As a resident of Ontario, Canada, I'm quite surprised to learn that >Ontario has been annexed by the United States. .................. Heh-heh: the author must be lying. .. Blanc

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女性权益话题调查问卷
by guest 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

女性权益话题调查问卷 ---------闽证字第351100号 ●请您在选中的答案后的方格内打“√”或在___处填写。单位__________________________________________________________________ 通讯地址：_______市____________路_______________街_____________________号联系人________________ 职务____________________ 邮编_________ 联系电话______________________ 手机_________________________________ 您认为当今社会家庭中是否以男子为中心：是□ 否□ 不一定□ 您认为中国男子对女性处女膜的重视程度：重视□ 不重视□ 一般□ 您认为未婚女子处女膜破损的可能性是：剧烈运动□ 婚前性行为□ 儿时游戏（硬物挫伤）□ 手淫□ 先天性处女膜缺陷□ 您对当前手术修补处女膜的看法：价格（2000元以上）偏高□ 价格适中□ 手术风险□ 可以接受□ 不能接受□ 您对人造处女膜的看法：价格（230元统一零售价）偏高□ 价格适中□ 没有风险□ 可以接受□ 不能接受□ 您是否知道圣女・贞德红人造处女膜？是□ 否□ 您是从什么地方知道圣女・贞德红？报刊杂志□ 保健商店□ 从朋友处□ 其他□ 您是否想过求助于贞德红产品？曾经这样做过□ 没想过□ 想过但没付诸行动□ 您是否准备购买圣女・贞德红？购买□ 不买□ 待后购□ 您是否愿意应聘成为圣女・贞德红的直销员？是□ 否□ 您是否愿意做圣女・贞德红区域代理商？是□ 否□ 如果您对圣女・贞德红的营销策划有独特见解或其他建议，请畅所欲言！ ____________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ ●谢谢您所提供的宝贵意见，您的个人资料绝对保密，若您同意并填写通讯详细地址、邮编、收信人，将免费寄去“一封只给女人的信函”请您“玉”览。 ●真诚期待您的光临，公司将对开拓市场、营销策划提出创新的客户，给予高额奖励。以下由访问员填写：单位：____________________ 联系人：_______________邮编：__________ 通信地址：______________________________________________________________ 联系电话：______________________ 手机：__________________________ 福建贯华市场研究公司问卷设计调查问卷热线：0594---2331103 E--mail:diho@263.net E--mail:anyxp@sina.com

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Found Object at Party: Knife/pliers multi-tool
by Tim May 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

I found a stainless steel locking pliers multi-tool behind my ice chest on my deck. Someone probably used it at the party as a bottle opener and forgot it was there. Perhaps it was left on the lid of the ice chest and it rolled off in the semi-darkness when someone else opened the lid. It's one of the models made by one of these vendors: Leatherman, SOG, Gerber, Buck, etc. Describe the brand and/or how it operates, opens, etc. and I'll hold it for you or make other arrangements for you to get it back. Comment on the meeting,/party: I counted about 50 people at one time or another, peaking at about 40 during the late afternoon indoor session. A lot of people I'd never met, nor heard of. (If someone lost the multi-tool and doesn't read Cypherpunks, oh well, think of it as Darwin's blade, now mine.) Thanks to all for making for such a great meeting and later party! --Tim May "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists." --John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General

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女性权益话题调查问卷
by guest 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

女性权益话题调查问卷 ---------闽证字第351100号 ●请您在选中的答案后的方格内打“√”或在___处填写。单位__________________________________________________________________ 通讯地址：_______市____________路_______________街_____________________号联系人________________ 职务____________________ 邮编_________ 联系电话______________________ 手机_________________________________ 您认为当今社会家庭中是否以男子为中心：是□ 否□ 不一定□ 您认为中国男子对女性处女膜的重视程度：重视□ 不重视□ 一般□ 您认为未婚女子处女膜破损的可能性是：剧烈运动□ 婚前性行为□ 儿时游戏（硬物挫伤）□ 手淫□ 先天性处女膜缺陷□ 您对当前手术修补处女膜的看法：价格（2000元以上）偏高□ 价格适中□ 手术风险□ 可以接受□ 不能接受□ 您对人造处女膜的看法：价格（230元统一零售价）偏高□ 价格适中□ 没有风险□ 可以接受□ 不能接受□ 您是否知道圣女・贞德红人造处女膜？是□ 否□ 您是从什么地方知道圣女・贞德红？报刊杂志□ 保健商店□ 从朋友处□ 其他□ 您是否想过求助于贞德红产品？曾经这样做过□ 没想过□ 想过但没付诸行动□ 您是否准备购买圣女・贞德红？购买□ 不买□ 待后购□ 您是否愿意应聘成为圣女・贞德红的直销员？是□ 否□ 您是否愿意做圣女・贞德红区域代理商？是□ 否□ 如果您对圣女・贞德红的营销策划有独特见解或其他建议，请畅所欲言！ ____________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ ●谢谢您所提供的宝贵意见，您的个人资料绝对保密，若您同意并填写通讯详细地址、邮编、收信人，将免费寄去“一封只给女人的信函”请您“玉”览。 ●真诚期待您的光临，公司将对开拓市场、营销策划提出创新的客户，给予高额奖励。以下由访问员填写：单位：____________________ 联系人：_______________邮编：__________ 通信地址：______________________________________________________________ 联系电话：______________________ 手机：__________________________ 福建贯华市场研究公司问卷设计调查问卷热线：0594---2331103 E--mail:diho@263.net E--mail:anyxp@sina.com

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21 Sep '02

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adv adult: stolen college diary
by Beca 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

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SLOPPY PUSSY XHERE epa
by Karen 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

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[BrinWorld] Store spycam witnesses beating
by A.Melon 20 Sep '02

20 Sep '02

Woman wanted for child abuse after store spycam witnesses beating: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/20/video.child.beating/index.html SOUTH BEND, Indiana (CNN) -- The woman caught on videotape seemingly beating her 4-year-old daughter in the parking lot of a Kohl's Department Store in Mishawaka, Indiana, is wanted in Texas for skipping a court date -- on charges that she shoplifted from a Kohl's in Fort Worth, Texas. Police are searching for Madelyne Gorman Toogood, 25, identified by authorities as the woman seen in the videotape repeatedly striking her daughter, Martha, after putting the little girl in a van. Police said Toogood is from Texas, where she was arrested on March 27 and charged with shoplifting from the Kohl's store in Fort Worth, according to Fort Worth Police Lt. Jesse Hernandez. A spokeswoman from the Tarrant County district attorney's office said that a warrant was issued for Toogood's arrest when she missed a May 9 court date. Mishawaka, Indiana, Police Chief Anthony Hazen said Toogood's sister, identified as Margaret Dailey, has been arrested and charged with failing to report child abuse. Dailey was also seen in the video, police said. Hazen said authorities are "optimistic that we will find this young girl and her mother." Maggie Jones, deputy prosecuting attorney for St. Joseph County, said the sister was "not cooperating," and her office was considering filing felony charges against her for assisting a criminal. Battery charges against Toogood are expected to be filed later Friday, Jones said. If convicted, Toogood would face a maximum of three years in prison. Hazen said police are "very worried about the child," who appears in the video to receive several blows that "could have caused severe trauma." The beating occurred last Friday, when a surveillance camera recorded two women -- identified by police as Toogood and her sister -- walking with two small children as they departed Kohl's department store in Mishawaka, near the state's northern border with Michigan. The women had attempted to return several items, but were refused and were asked to leave, said Hazen. "The suspect became angry, and left the store," the chief said. "I believe (store personnel) followed them out through the camera system and witnessed the incident." As the camera tracked them from the store to a 2002 white Toyota Sequoia SUV in the parking lot, one of the women -- identified by police as Toogood -- placed her 4-year-old daughter in a rear seat. The woman, wearing blue jeans and a T-shirt, her blond hair in a ponytail, looked around the parking lot and -- for about 25 seconds -- shook the girl and hit her in the face. "You can see the woman grab one of the girl's ponytails and forcibly shake her," Jones said. "Not even counting all of the blows we saw the woman make, that constitutes battery." Using the videotape, police traced the vehicle to the woman's family and impounded it. Jones said family members told her the girl was one of the woman's three children. But the woman's relatives have been "less than cooperative" in helping authorities locate the girl, Jones said. The sister, who has not been identified by name, "claims not to know where her sister is," Jones said. Authorities also said they had spoken with Toogood's husband, who had not led them to his wife. It was not clear if the two live together. "I've been in police work over 20 years, and I've never seen such a horrendous attack on a small child," said Mike Samp, assistant chief of the Mishawaka Police Department. Samp said the family members told authorities the woman had left the state. But he was not persuaded. "My hunch is that she's still here. That's why we're continuing to pursue this so vigorously." Authorities have urged anyone with information about how to find the woman or the girl to call the Mishawaka police at (574) 258-1684. "It made me sick to think that that child is still with that mother and, quite frankly, if the mother is willing to do that in a public parking lot, what is she doing at home?" Jones asked. "Our immediate concern ... is to locate the child and get the child out of the environment." CNN Correspondent Gary Tuchman contributed to this report.

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