September 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

CIA WTF.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

CIA no big deal in India anymore CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ SATURDAY, AUGUST 31, 2002 11:57:38 PM ] WASHINGTON: India is in the grip of the CIA! So what, did you say? Precisely. The once-dreaded three-letter acronym, not long ago a byword for sinister shenanigans, hardly creates a ripple in India these days. How else do you account for the fact that several South Asia hands in the US administration who have visited India in recent times come from the CIA, and there is nary a squeak in New Delhi? The latest visitor to New Delhi who has CIA pedigree is Lisa Curtis, advisor to Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Christina Rocca. Curtis, a former CIA analyst who has dealt extensively with South Asia, held talks with Hurriyat leaders last week in a bid to persuade them to take part in the Assembly election. Although a former CIA staffer, Curtis is a political appointee in the state department brought in as aide to Ms Rocca, who herself was a CIA operative before she moved to the Hill to work with Senator Sam Brownback, who propelled her into the administration. Another familiar South Asia hand who came from the Agency was Bruce Riedel, former Senior Director and adviser to the President on South Asia in the Clinton administration. Riedel went out with the Democratic administration and is now on a sabbatical at King's College, England. One reason why the CIA has lost is menacing overtones is perhaps because its actions of late have tended to be supportive of India, probably recognising greater dangers. After all, former US ambassador to India Daniel P Moynihan, records that the CIA bankrolled even Mrs Gandhi's Congress Party against the Communists in Kerala, despite her perpetual rant about foreign hands and destabilisation. While Curtis has been working on the Hurriyat, Riedel played a key role in the landmark change of US policy that resulted in Washington backing India during the Kargil flare-up. Such reassuring gestures and change in attitude is perhaps what emboldened Home Minister L K Advani to step into the portals of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, during his visit here in January. Subsequent to the visit, Indian officials say, there has been plenty of cooperation between the two sides, including in the law enforcement front. One result of that was evident earlier this week, when the American FBI -- which now has an office in New Delhi -- and the Indian CBI staged an unprecedented joint sting operation to net an Indian software engineer who was trying to peddle source code purloined from a US company over the Internet. Such a joint action, let alone three CIA analysts coming to India, would have been unthinkable a decade or two back. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=20800121 CIA track record 50 years back? Noticed as early as 1950,the new york herald tribune reported listed five events that the 'company' failed to predict.The North Korean attack that year,the fall of Checkoslovakia,the Tito-Soviet split and the Communist victory in China. p34-'Oyster,the story of ASIS.'Toohey-Pinwell.89.

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Backround checks are more important than education...
by Adam Shostack 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/2229196.stm > Thousands of teachers will not be able to take classes at the start > of the new term because character checks on them will not have been > completed, the government has admitted. [...] > Leicestershire was one of the first areas of the country to be > affected by the vetting backlog as pupils returned to school last > Thursday, with schools being told to turn away teachers who had not > yet been checked. -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Net censors strike Brothels while police cop DNA powers.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

http://theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/01/1030508160640.html Prostitution websites in Victoria will no longer be able to entice customers with full-body images of naked women or explicit menus of available services, under regulations that take effect today. Criminals forced to give DNA samples Police are set to order nearly 4000 convicted criminals to provide DNA samples within 28 days or face arrest under state laws that take effect today. Full report Your say! Should people be forced to provide DNA? ALSO http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=32718&group=webcast

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US Army interest in au tech.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

There's electronic ballistics at Metalstorm of course now,PermoDrives are go. http://www.permo-drive.com.au/ PD News Vol 3 No 2 PD News Vol 3 No 2 26 Jul 02: United States Army enlists Permo-Drive for war on fuel. With 246 thousand tactical vehicles, the US Army has the largest truck fleet in the world. New Vice President 19 Jul 02: CEO Max Bosotti has announced the appointment of Paul Chandler as Vice President, Permo-Drive Technologies Ltd. USA Interest 13 Jun 02: The Permo-Drive Team recently visited North America.

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Palladium Busters.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

COLLUSION CLAIMS ACCC probing 'hard-core cartels' Australia's competition watchdog was investigating about 25 cases of alleged anti-competitive "hard-core cartel" activity, a conference was told today. Full report According to ACCC chairperson,Alan Fels,Sony's regional coding is fair game for cracking. http://theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/02/1030508179933.html "...Professor Fels said hard-core collusion, which could involve secret price fixing, bid rigging, market sharing and agreed restrictions on output, was flourishing internationally ""He used his speech to an Australian Institute of Criminology conference to continue his push for jail terms for executives involved in such illegal collusion. Prof Fels said it was unfair that people who cheated the social security or tax systems of tens of thousands of dollars could be jailed, yet senior executives who colluded to cause tens of millions of dollars of loss to the community did not face a prison term." "The law must not be blind to the colour of the collar," he said. Prof Fels said such offences could currently incur fines of up to $500,000 for an individual, or $10 million for a company, but there were no criminal sanctions. "Hard-core cartels are secret, they are difficult to detect, they allow the firms involved to corrupt the competitive process ... and enable those who engage in collusion to line their pockets with higher profits," he said. Prof Fels said that in the six years to 2001, the ACCC received 2,426 complaints about cartels and 400 investigations were conducted. The commission currently was investigating 20 to 25 cases that could potentially involve hard-core cartels. In a submission to a review of the Trade Practices Act by former High Court judge Sir Daryl Dawson, the ACCC has argued for jail penalties for executives found guilty of anti-competitive behaviour. It argues for new seven-year prison terms for executives caught organising illegal cartels, and maximum fines worth 10 per cent of company turnover. Business groups have attacked Prof Fels' move, and called for his powers to be curtailed. END. The US may be too far gone for an ACCC to work,it may need the Mongo alternative.

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Mongo's with matches,cruel but fair.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

Calif. Forest Fire Forces Evacuation AP/Steven K. Doi [26K] AZUSA, Calif. (AP) A wildfire spread rapidly across 10,000 acres of national forest Sunday, sending thousands of holiday campers fleeing. The fire was burning in the Azusa Canyon area of the Angeles National Forest about 30 miles east of Los Angeles. About 8,000 campers were told to evacuate campgrounds. ``This was a holiday weekend and the canyon was full of people,'' state Department of Forestry dispatcher James Arthur said. About 11,420 acres of brush were aflame across California. In El Dorado County east of Sacramento, a fire destroyed one house and threatened about 100 others. It had consumed 770 acres Sunday and was 30 percent contained. A 15-year-old boy was in the county's juvenile hall in connection with the fire. A second boy, also 15, was questioned then released to his family, sheriff's Lt. Kevin House said. One boy was playing with matches when the fire started Saturday between the cities of El Dorado Hills and Rescue, House said. In San Bernardino County, a 554-acre fire was 61 percent contained Sunday. Investigators were trying to determine whether a burned body and an incendiary device were connected to the blaze that started Thursday. The device was discovered Sunday morning, said U.S. Forest Service spokeswoman Ruth Wenstrom. She had no further details. Nationwide, the National Interagency Fire Center reported 17 large active fires Sunday that were burning 660,000 acres. On the Net: National Interagency Fire Center: http://www.nifc.gov/ Summers slippin away kids,get out in the woods! There is no greenhouse over Ameica!

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Message de �lodie
by sophie.l＠rencontre-club.com 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

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Chompsky in the Arab news today.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=18278 "...Noam Chomsky, a remarkable US political thinker. He demands radical changes in US foreign policy or the country will face a "revolution from within." He has advised successive US governments since the Carter administration of the need to change the colonialist and supercilious approach to the rest of the world. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead

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Carnivore the toothless tiger.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=32736&group=webcast

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by Colonial Mint 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

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by Colonial Mint 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

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Carnivore; a toothless tiger.
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

The FBI has openly admitted that its agents have difficulties collecting evidence from computers. FBI Director Robert Mueller told a House committee this summer that the agency lacks the technology skills and understanding that would allow agents to conduct complete computer forensics searches. Did FBI Bungle E-Mail Evidence? By Michelle Delio Print this E-mail it 11:55 a.m. Aug. 30, 2002 PDT The FBI may have overlooked a crucial e-mail account used by Zacarias Moussaoui when agents examined computers known to have been used by the suspected terrorist. Moussaoui, now defending himself against terrorism conspiracy charges stemming from his alleged involvment in the Sept. 11 attacks, recently requested that prosecutors turn over their records of messages sent and received through his Hotmail account. Moussaoui claims his e-mail could help him establish his alibi. But the FBI has no records of the account, and an incredulous U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkema now wants to know how the FBI could have searched the computers Moussaoui used and not located any traces of the Hotmail account. In response, prosecutors have submitted a sworn statement from Microsoft stating that the company is also unable to locate any records of Moussaoui's Hotmail account. According to Moussaoui, he was registered with Microsoft's free Hotmail e-mail service as "xdesertman." Moussaoui claims he accessed the account from various computers, including his own laptop, a computer at a Kinko's copy shop in Minnesota, and another computer belonging to the University of Oklahoma. All of these computers were searched by agents following Moussaoui's arrest in August 2001. The FBI has openly admitted that its agents have difficulties collecting evidence from computers. FBI Director Robert Mueller told a House committee this summer that the agency lacks the technology skills and understanding that would allow agents to conduct complete computer forensics searches. Brinkema has also ordered the FBI to file an affidavit stating whether the agency requested help from other government sources when examining the machines Moussaoui used. "The affidavit must indicate why investigators were unable to retrieve any information from MSN Hotmail and/or any other computers or accounts searched," Brinkema wrote in the order. "It must make clear whether any efforts were made to obtain forensic expert services of any other government agencies such as the CIA or NSA to assist in retrieving the information." But the evidence may not have been on the computers by the time FBI agents searched them. When an account is inactive, Hotmail deletes stored messages after 30 days, and disables inactive accounts after 90 days. However, Microsoft has been unable to find records indicating the count ever existed, according to a statement submitted to the court by the company. E-mail sent by Wired News to "xdesertman(a)hotmail.com" bounced back with an unknown recipient error message. But attempts to create a new account using xdesertman as a user name were also refused by the service. Although Moussaoui has a computer in his jail cell for use in preparing his defense, he is not allowed to use the Hotmail service. Brinkema recently ordered that Moussaoui must be allowed to use a computer to connect to a restricted-access website which contains records relating to his case, but has banned him from accessing other Internet sites from his cell. http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,54857,00.html

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Hearing Voices?
by Matthew X 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

Hearing voices By Bennett Ring August 30 2002 Icon Text has so far done a good job of communicating our thoughts across the Internet, via Web pages, chat rooms, instant messaging and message boards, but lacks the immediacy, tone and personal touch of speech. It also requires the user to type fluently. That's where VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) applications are handy. VOIP applications, known as voice comms, became popular in the PC online gaming world, where they are still used. Playing with (or against) human beings is one thing, but being able to scream orders and/or taunts at them is better. Team-based games benefit especially; before voice comms, the team leader had to bash out instructions on the keyboard. Once voice comms are set up it's as simple as hitting the transmit key and speaking. One of the largest uses for the technology is as a substitute for the telephone, especially among those who make lots of interstate and international calls. Why spend serious money on an international call when you can chat for hours at a cost of a local phone call to your ISP? MORE ON http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/29/1030508096466.html Wired magazine shelled out for Declans call to me last year,It's so much cheaper online,the only thing is the 1 second sattelite gap.It's a bit like ham radio,I used it to call my sister in NZ.

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Create a PAYCHECK with your COMPUTER
by David LaRock 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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Create a PAYCHECK with your COMPUTER...
by supasayinron＠hotmail.com 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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Hello cypherpunks, All we do is bad credit tnlhe
by Trixie Deleon 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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Re: Mitigating Dangers of Compromised Anonymity
by Adam Shostack 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:12:16AM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: | On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: | | > I'd like to suggest that while this may be fun, usability and getting | > millions of users to see that remailers are useful to them is a more | > useful goal. | | I agree, although I fail to see how working on this would interfere with | that goal in any way. Scarce resources (programmer time) go to this, not that. Given the small pool of people writing code, I'd like to try to convince them to write code that I think is more useful. I'd write it myself, but that just makes work for someone who says "My god, I need to re-write this!" ;) | > The anonymity set provided by the current extant systems is too small | > to protect anyone against anyone who is willing to kill or disappear | > people as part of their attacks against the remailers. | | I find this disbelievable. I suspect there are many groups which do not | have the capability of defeating the remailer system who would still like | to see it eliminated. Willingness to kill or disappear people isn't | necessarily tied to technical capability, though I agree that entities | which can defeat the remailer network without "disappearing" anyone are | unlikely to pose a threat to the remops. If our goal is to make remailers | harder to defeat, however, beforehand might be the right time to address | the problem of "missing remailer operators." Sorry, I think you missed my point a little. Let me explain, then I'll respond to what you said. If Charlie is willing to kill someone to achieve his goals, then he is pretty dedicated. He may be able to trade that willingness to commit violence for technical help, etc. I agree that there are groups who might not be able to defeat the remailer system who'd like it to go away, but its not clear to me how many of them would go to the extent of kidnapping or killing a remailer operator to achieve the goal of getting rid of the remailer system. | (Incidently, I could see this having uses outside the remailer operator | world.) So? | > Oh, yeah, and incidentally, if you build this system, the attacker can | > simply add a bit of rubber hosing to their remop elimination program. | | To pry the signing key out of the victim? That's a personal "how much | torture can I take" question for the victim to ask himself. He knows he'll | be permanently disappeared after coughing up the private key. | | In many cases also it might be far harder to rubber-hose someone than | simply cause an "accident". True, but how many groups are willing to go that far? Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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cypherpunks@algebra.com Here's Your FREE TRIAL
by Stephanie Azizuddin 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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Huge natural tits
by mwsu674＠framesetup.com 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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Guess what happened to me this weekend
by gina＠teenarousal.com 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

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I think I'm in love.
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/STEULT.html Its cherry blossom time in country Victoria.Looks like a bushfire summer's comin' "...Stern also holds out hope for new technologies that might combat this trend, and for legal and political remedies that would improve public safety without compromising basic constitutional rights." http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0674003942/qid=1030907557/sr=…

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NTK Now, 2002-08-30 (fwd)
by Eugen Leitl 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

A relevant NTK Now issue. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:33:18 +0100 From: Dave Green <tips(a)spesh.com> To: NTK recipient list <ntknow(a)lists.ntk.net> Subject: NTK Now, 2002-08-30 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 17:17:26 +0200 (CEST) Resent-From: <eleitl(a)leitl.org> Resent-To: <eugen(a)hydrogen.leitl.org> Resent-Subject: NTK Now, 2002-08-30 _ _ _____ _ __ <*the* weekly high-tech sarcastic update for the uk> | \ | |_ _| |/ / _ __ __2002-08-30_ o join! mail an empty message to | \| | | | | ' / | '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / / o ntknow-subscribe(a)lists.ntk.net | |\ | | | | . \ | | | | (_) \ v v / o website (+ archive) lives at: |_| \_| |_| |_|\_\|_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/ o http://www.ntk.net/ "A case in point is web designer Matt Jones, the man responsible for how BBC News Online looked when it launched. Since then, he has invented 'warchalking', which he recently described as a 'curse'..." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2210091.stm - but you cannot turn against me! I... created you! >> HARD NEWS << stiffening sinews More hot summer days in the mailinglist alleyways, dangerously empty of sane postings, strewn with the rotting carcasses of broiling vacation messages. Hacktress and Silicon Valley's chief rat-keeper LILE ELAM, excitedly posts about a new open 802.11 network she's found. "I am here at the police station waiting to see a judge and I thought I would check to see if there is connectivity", she writes, somewhat recklessly, to the Bay Area Wireless list. Exit the rest of the Wifi community through the nearest window and out into the streets... where, cooling tempers, the Microsoft Palladium boys are on an endless summer tour, reassuring the experts that while, hmm, they *suppose* Pd could *theoretically* be used as a Hollywood DRM system, they truly have no plans to do any such thing. Cypherpunk and friend of freedom Lucky Green hears this; thinks up four or five of the obvious Palladium DRM implementations; sends them off to be patented in his name. Licensing funds, we imagine, will go on cracking his own DRMs. And so the mail loops on. http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2002-August/008507.html - administrivia: HI MOM, I'M IN JAIL http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@wasabisystems.com/msg02554.html - Green/Palladium, like Green Kryptonite Could Lucky get himself arrested under the DMCA for distributing a circumvention device? Worse: now we have the EUCD incoming, could he here in the UK? Will Alan Cox go to jail for posting detailed Changelogs? Will even the nicest UK cryptographer (or curious garage tinkerer) find themselves hauled up under our new and scarily DMCAish copyright regime? Find out the facts at the free FAIR DEAL FOR COPYRIGHT conference, organised by the irrepressible FOUNDATION FOR INFORMATION POLICY RESEARCH for Wednesday 2002-09-18 at the London School of Economics. All the usual fun from the creators of the Scrambling for Safety crypto cons: we confidently predict government spokesmen caught in headlights, wanton Dave Bird heckling, some industry bigwig fighting off the audience with a broken chairleg, and other epiphenomena of the interzone between legal minds and hacker ethics. Oh, and FIPR are still looking for a Programme Director, so if you're interested, let them know. We suggested a convention raffle (first prize: the director's job, second prize: Ross Anderson as your personal slave for a day). They say there's some rule that would break, though. http://www.fipr.org/vacancy.html - doesn't the Foundation use psychohistory for filling these positions? For those of us who can't read the abbreviation EULA without thinking of Martian fighting machines and their "deafening howls... which roared like thunder", we're sorry to report that this weekend's multimedia performance of Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS has been postponed due to "health and safety issues". The event was to feature computer graphics, fireworks, "60ft-tall Martian fighting machines" wreaking "havoc and destruction", and - most terrifyingly of all - the possibility of a David Essex tribute singer performing with Hawkwind, but UKP18 tickets for the Sat 2002-08-31 show at Manchester's Heaton Park will still be valid at a range of new venues next summer. Ironically, the Martians' original invasion plans were similarly thwarted by health and safety issues, "slain after all man's devices had failed by the humblest creatures that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth: bacteria. Minute, invisible, bacteria. For, directly the invaders arrived and drank and fed, our microscopic allies attacked them..." http://www.waroftheworlds.info/postpone.htm - "...From that moment, they were doomed." >> ANTI-NEWS << berating the obvious moving on from PUERILE GOOGLE MISSPELLINGS, weird search-and- replace artefact: http://www.google.com/search?q=consideyellow , Japanese fan sites for "plince", "steery dan", "def reppard" et al, plus the 18,000 or more self-referential Usenet .sigs: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22get+random+signatures%22 ...http://www.colocation-network.com/ "Zerodowntime" ad leads to: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohzero.gif ... slightly harsh alt text: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohover.gif ... US military discovers the only "translator" those bastards seem to understand: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohgun.gif ... scary blue men herald return of the bizarre BBC hacking pics: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1494091.stm ... reporter RYAN DILLEY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2202552.stm pulls his http://starwars.org.pl/galeria/e2/char/anakin/t001.jpg face ... banjo maestro GEORGE FORMBY still alive, cooking, black: http://www.readersheds.co.uk/readersheds/shop.cfm?WOSNAMES=Wosnames ... thanks guys, that ought to do it: http://www.eap.ca/ ... >> EVENT QUEUE << goto's considered non-harmful Controversially, we're all in favour of THE GUARDIAN GREAT BRITISH BLOG COMPETITION (closing date next Fri 2002-09-06, first prize UKP1000, entry free), in that any initiative that encourages this notoriously primadonna-ish "community" to try and engage with real-world notions of editorial quality surely has to be a good thing. Our only disappointment is that The Guardian appears to be focussing on the "best" of the entries, when everyone knows the real fun is to be had cruising the truly terrible examples that the genre has to offer, mentally allocating points for "Most Depressing Recycling Of Daypop Top 40 URLs", "Most Unsettling Revelations About Personal Life", plus of course "Most Tedious Linking/Reciprocal Linking To Other Bloggers In Absence Of Having Anything Interesting To Say". http://www.guardian.co.uk/weblog/bestbritishblog/ - "A strange game, Professor Falken..." http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/comment/0,7496,765161,00.html - "...the only winning move is not to play." >> TRACKING << sufficiently advanced technology : the gathering The respective trademark holders will hate this, but Windows really *is* like the Sun. You have this big hulking mass of concentrated power in the middle, with a few small orbiting utilities - like WinZip, and PuTTY, and VNC. Occasionally one will get a bit too close to the OS, and Microsoft will suck it down and turn it into fuel for the System. One such discrete satellite remains FILEZILLA, the still-necessary ftp gui client for Windows. Those who know it won't need the introduction, although they might appreciate the note that it's getting close to v2.0 time. For dogged WS_FTP users, though, it's got multiple downloads, auto-restart of interrupted 'loads, queuing, and sftp and Kerberos support. It's also GPL'd which makes it a nice bit of source for anyone wanting to grok Win32 networking from something that works. http://filezilla.sf.net/ - talking of trademarks, will the Godzilla people strike before MS? >> MEMEPOOL << ceci n'est pas une http://www.gagpipe.com/ (Not safe for work) next year's RED NOSE DAY looks more fun than usual: http://www.threepillows.com/tour2.htm ... Mirrored Disaster Recovery Suite - to go with mirrored bathroom etc?: http://www.dovebid.com/Auctions/AuctionDetail.asp?AuctionID=1450 ... and then the kid can take you to court for mental cruelty: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/08/27/turok.baby.reut/ ... "funny" prefixes in front of "chalking" #n+1 - the actually quite pragmatic: http://www.pinkbunny.co.uk/poochalking/ ... no longer knowing - or caring - if these are prank AMAZON reviews or not, for Potter's ever-popular "vibrating" broom: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/ ... ditto "Use This Software At Your Own Risk" disclaimer for: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=41030 ... DAFFY DUCK appears in dock - accused of "dethpicable" behaviour?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2223065.stm , http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_659889.html ... >> GEEK MEDIA << get out less TV>> celebrity cameo night tonight, with Brad Pitt in FRIENDS (9pm, Fri, C4), Sydney Pollack in WILL AND GRACE (9.30pm, Fri, C4), Dustin Hoffman in V GRAHAM NORTON (10.30pm, Fri, C4), and a singing, dancing peanut in globalised trade documentary ALT- TV (7.30pm, Fri, C4)... the BBC have kept McEnroe and the heart monitor, got rid of the live crocodiles in gimmicky quizshow THE CHAIR (6.40pm, Sat, BBC1)... and a month of "September 11th" specials kicks off with AVENGING TERROR (8pm, Sat & Sun, C4) - yet those responsible for BOWFINGER (9pm, Sat, C4) and NOTTING HILL (9pm, Sun, C4) still remain unpunished... John "The Last Seduction" Dahl's ROUNDERS (11pm, Sat, BBC2) turns out to be about high-stakes poker, rather than the girls' version of baseball... in the wake of DAVE GORMAN'S IMPORTANT ASTROLOGY EXPERIMENT (10.40pm, Sun, BBC2), how about a three-way challenge where he, Tony Hawks and Pete McCarthy battle to come up with the most lucrative pointless pretext for a book and TV show?... but we still have a soft spot for Ron "Alien: Resurrection" Perlman liberal self- flagellation THE LAST SUPPER (11.20pm, Sun, C4)... 9/11 CLEAR THE SKIES (9pm, Sun, BBC2) is a presumably uneventful account of "how US air defence systems responded to the events of September 11th"... inexplicably, the three finalists in THE TARTIEST MEN IN BRITAIN (10.30pm, Mon, ITV) all come from Leeds... Larry Clark takes a somewhat indirect approach to conveying his safe-sex message in New York filth-fest KIDS (1.15am, Tue, C4)... and the September 11th build-up continues with HOW THE TWIN TOWERS COLLAPSED (8pm, Mon, C4), LET'S ROLL: THE STORY OF FLIGHT 93 (10.30pm, Wed, ITV), plus THE MEYSSAN CONSPIRACY (11.05pm, Tue, C4) - ie the French guy behind: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm ... away from the polluted nightmare of modern living, a family seek out a new way of life in Earth Summit tie-in A LAND WORTH LOVING (7pm, Wed, BBC1)... which coincidentally also forms the plot of this week's second Heather "Bowfinger" Graham turkey, LOST IN SPACE (7.55pm, Wed, BBC1) - not to be confused with the return of those annoying posh women in WORLD'S WORST DRESSED (8pm, Wed, BBC2), who have at least shut up about their always-doomed hideously purple e-commerce site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/712188.stm ... FILM>> the comic skills of Cameron Diaz, Christina Applegate and Parker Posey combine in a cross between a teen smut comedy and an episode of "Sex And The City", THE SWEETEST THING ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_sweetest_thing.html : As [Diaz] and [Applegate] drive down the road still dressed in just their bras and underwear, [Applegate] drops her bottle of fingernail polish. [Diaz] then goes over to get it, with her panty-covered butt in the air and her head down toward [Applegate]'s legs and crotch; [Selma Blair] [has] her mouth stuck around a man's privates after apparently performing oral sex on him)... Robin Williams plays a surprisingly convincing Hannibal Lecter in morally complicated Alaskan Al Pacino murder madness INSOMNIA ( http://www.cndb.com/ : You can see [Crystal Lowe's] tits in autopsy photos and again - along with bush - when she's seen on a autopsy table. Nice boobs but she's dead)... it's Eddie Murphy, Randy Quaid, Jay "Jerry Maguire" Mohr, John Cleese and Pam Grier - together at last! - in blaxploitation sci-fi spoof THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_adventures_of_pluto_nash.html : the woman then causes the image of [Rosario "Kids" Dawson] to suddenly have much larger breasts and an exaggeratedly large rear end)... all of which, shockingly, are an improvement on John Woo interspersing lame battle scenes with agonising anti- racist philosophising in WW2 Navajo crypto clunker WINDTALKERS ( http://www.capalert.com/capreports/windtalkers.htm : gambling; beheading; brief partial nudity of a Japanese soldier; I have no doubt that such gore is present in war but must it be regurgitated in and as entertainment?)... >> SMALL PRINT << Need to Know is a useful and interesting UK digest of things that happened last week or might happen next week. You can read it on Friday afternoon or print it out then take it home if you have nothing better to do. It is compiled by NTK from stuff they get sent. Registered at the Post Office as "yeah, but bet we were banned first" http://www.b3ta.com/newsletter/issue54/ NEED TO KNOW THEY STOLE OUR REVOLUTION. NOW WE'RE STEALING IT BACK. Archive - http://www.ntk.net/ Unsubscribe? Mail ntknow-unsubscribe(a)lists.ntk.net Subscribe? Mail ntknow-subscribe(a)lists.ntk.net NTK now is supported by UNFORTU.NET, and by you: http://www.geekstyle.co.uk/ (K) 2002 Special Projects. Copying is fine, but include URL: http://www.ntk.net/ Tips, news and gossip to tips(a)spesh.com All communication is for publication, unless you beg. Press releases from naive PR people to pr(a)spesh.com Remember: Your work email may be monitored if sending sensitive material. Sending >500KB attachments is forbidden by the Geneva Convention. Your country may be at risk if you fail to comply.

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Net Censorship au style.
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

Indymedia is under repression,its happened twice before.The first shut down Seattle and the Ohio server is no longer with us.See the main board at FBI/legal updates.lower left. On sept 11 the police are charging a mentally disabled man with threats to kill them.One was a comment to a post made here on May 8 and another on june 1 of 01. The Ohio legal situation arose after some local LEO's decided to set up grand juries and issue subpoena's before actually writing to the address provided on the offending post. Vic.Police followed precedent by not seeking to write the address provided.They did use a ph no on one of the posts to 'sting' the MD man by pretending to be from his ISP and offering a 'special deal.' The 'deal' turned into an ordeal for Matt Taylor of Kyneton. He was rousted for two hours,had things stolen and was later threatened at the police station.Taylor was charged with some petty public order offence's committed at M1 last year.The good behavior bond issued for those expire in Oct. Apart from that there is no criminal history.The police kept a computer seized from Taylor and finally examined it. The computer policeman who examined it,(actually a 'ghost' copy of the hard drive.)said he found 21 items of interest on the computer. Two have been put forward as supposed evedence of the crime of 'threats to kill.'1 is a copy of an e-mail sent sometime after the May 8 post.It's datestamped and it differs from the posts timestamp. The second item is a copy of a post that went up on June 1. It is not timestamped apart from the time on the Indy site that it was made. The Police are seriously putting forth the proposition that a few Kbs of data out of Gigabytes that someone stored and/or sent from the laptop prove >beyond reasonable doubt < that Taylor is their man. That no one else had the means motive and opportunity? Give us a fucking break. When Ashley Gardiner of the Hun wrote to Declan Mc Cullogh he wrote,"we got your man!" Note the 'we'. The Hun provided the police with a small mountain of their surveillance tapes and photo's of M1. 25,000$ reward was offered for Taylor's arrest in mid May by the La Raza Nazi organization.Many Threats were directed at Taylor by various different sounding anonymous cowards.The nom de Guerre allegedly used by Taylor appears to have been used by other(s) and in a way as to discredit him. 250$ was regularly offered to punch Taylor in the face hard enough to knock him down.All this on IMC's If you search yourself you will find many posts under the name 'proffr' and 'profrv.'Do they all appear to be from the same man? We have all put up with the long standing Hatfield-McCoy fued of Mayne and Hoser.Thats not the only disputed ID war on Indymedia. The police themselves say in court,"this(indy)site is one where anyone can download." Therefore ANYONE online at the time those "threats," were made could have made them by the Police's own admission. So why delay a trial,bring frivolous charges and harass the defendant and even try and nobble him? FOI has already exposed much about this,no doubt much more will come out. Like who was the mysterious 'observer' at Taylors arrest? Who was in charge,State or Feds? or the (ASIO?) 'Observer.'? Why was a US SS agent overseeing the arrest? Does the US want to extradite Taylor as has been alleged by Taylors case worker,Julian Jamieson of Kyneton? What will happen to Indymedia when someone alleged to be a regular contributor is found guilty of offences carrying a 20 year penalty? If anyone can be found guilty of such an 'offence' in this way then is anyone contributing here safe? Is the ultimate aim of this prosecution to chill Indy comment? Where else is this occurring? This is from EFA.and FBI/legal link... http://www.sjgames.com/SS/ August 31. -- Closure of the outspoken Internet forum Baiyun Huanghe after students posted messages about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. DFN and other NGOs reported about the closure on September 6. The Baiyun Huanghe bulletin board service (BBS - formerly hosted at http://bbs.whnet.edu.cn) belonged to the Huazhong University of Science and Technology (Wuhan, Hubei province). University officials announced that they were temporarily shutting down the BBS, which had 30,000 registered users, "due to technical problems." A school official told Reuters that the university's party committee would manage the BBS after the shutdown. Users would be required to register with their real names and identification numbers. DFN said "online discussion of the closure continues on other sites". "For example, an Internet forum for Huazhong University alumni (http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/~cai/hust/) has been active since Baiyun Huanghe was shut down. The alumni forum is run by a nonprofit alumni organization based in the U.S." Last March, DFN added, the Sina.com Web site "erased hundreds of messages from its chat rooms which expressed outrage about an explosion that destroyed an elementary school ... killing 38 children. Government officials had claimed that the explosion was the result of a mad bomber, but parents said cash-strapped teachers forced children to assemble fireworks inside the school." "And last June, authorities closed online forums at the Southern Weekend weekly newspaper and the Xici Hutong Web site's Democracy and Human Rights Forum after people expressed concern about recent newspaper closures and firings." + Main source: DFN, Sept. 6 + An updated list of online forums closed in China (DFN) "...This approach is taken in Australian Commonwealth law (although it has not been enforced in this manner to date) and also in, for example, China, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates and Vietnam. Some countries require Internet access providers to block material while others only allow restricted access to the Internet through a government controlled access point. http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens3.html "...In contrast to Australia, governments in comparable countries including Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and various European countries have chosen to legislate to give citizens a right in domestic law to freedom of expression similar to that contained in the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Such a right is by no means absolute and does not prevent governments from enacting or enforcing laws restricting freedom of expression. However, to the best of EFA's knowledge, governments in these countries have not enacted or indicated any intent to enact, Internet censorship legislation as restrictive of adults' freedom of expression, as that existing and proposed in Australia. "..."China has issued its most intrusive Internet controls to date, ordering service providers to screen private e-mail for political content and holding them responsible for subversive postings on their Web sites. ... Under the new rules, general portal sites must install security programs to screen and copy all e-mail messages sent or received by users. Those containing 'sensitive materials' must be turned over to authorities. Providers are also responsible for erasing all prohibited content posted on their Web sites, including online chatrooms and bulletin boards. "...In Saudi Arabia, public access to and from the Internet has been funnelled through a single government controlled centre since February 1999 when Internet access was first made available. From this centre, the government blocks access to Internet content deemed unsuitable for the country's citizens..." "...In May 1998, the Swedish Parliament enacted the "Act (1998:112) on Responsibility for Electronic Bulletin Boards". Electronic bulletin board is defined so as to include storage of data on the Internet, such as web pages, etc (thereby excluding personal e-mail that is only stored in individuals' mailboxes). The law places an obligation on service providers who store information (not those who only provide connections to the Internet) to remove or make inaccessible content that is obviously illegal (they do not have to decide in doubtful cases) according to the penal code, that is: instigation of rebellion (section 16 article 5) racial agitation (section 16 article 8) child pornography (section 16 article 10) illegal description of violence (section 16 article 10) or when it obvious that the user has infringed copyright law. According to explanations of the law made by the government, in computer areas where illegal messages often occur, the service providers must check what is stored, but in other areas, it is enough compliance for service providers to check when someone complains that something illegal has been stored. The above information is a very brief summary of information available (as at March 2002) on the web site of Jacob Palme of the Department of Computer and Systems Sciences, Stockholm University/KTH. For more detailed information see Jacob Palme's pages: Swedish Attempts to regulate the Internet - BBS Act http://dsv.su.se/jpalme/society/swedish-attempts.html#Heading12 Swedish BBS Act http://dsv.su.se/jpalme/society/swedish-bbs-act.html

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Apster thread at anti-state and GREAT DANE!
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

http://www.anti-state.com/murphy/murphy18.html Reduced to rooting around in the forest floor with ancap swine,FUCK me DEAD! Great Dane for BBS's http://melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=32685&group=webcast "...is someone in victoria been charged for writting something on indymedia? " Yes and he even leaves his MOTHERFUCKING E_MAIL ADRESS there.I despair sometimes,I swear.All I ask is a a small group of thoughtful, committed netizens,is that too FREAKING MUCH! AARRRRGGGGHHHH!

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$25 is a drop in the bucket for what you'll get in return!
by cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

All our mailings are sent complying to the proposed H.R. 3113 Unsolicited Commercial Electronic Mail Act of 2000. Please see the bottom of this message for further information and removal instructions. PARENTS OF 15 - YEAR OLD - FIND $71,000 CASH HIDDEN IN HIS CLOSET! Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. You most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA). And reported elsewhere in the world (including my neck of the woods - New Zealand). His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when she came across a large brown paper bag that was suspiciously buried beneath some clothes and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old sons closet. Nothing could have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened the bag and found it was full of cash. Five-dollar bills, twenties, fifties and hundreds - all neatly rubber-banded in labelled piles. "My first thought was that he had robbed a bank", says the 41-year-old woman, "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag --that's more than my husband earns in a year". The woman immediately called her husband at the car-dealership where he worked to tell him what she had discovered.He came home right away and they drove together to the boys school and picked him up. Little did they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than actually finding it in the closet. As it turns out, the boy had been sending out, via E-mail, a type of "Report" to E-mail addresses that he obtained off the Internet. Everyday after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing this right on his computer in his bedroom. "I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck, I put my name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out", says the clever 15-year-old. The E-mail letter listed 5 addresses and contained instructions to send one $5 dollar bill to each person on the list, then delete the address at the top and move the others addresses Down , and finally to add your name to the top of the list. The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand dollars in five-dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter with your name at the top of the 5-address list. "I get junk E-mail all the time, and really did not think it was going to work", the boy continues. Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game magazine subscriptions began to fill up with not magazines, but envelopes containing $5 bills. "About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and my box had 1 magazine and about 300 envelops stuffed in it. There was also a yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter. I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)". He goes on, "I went up to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to ride back home and empty out my backpack because I could not carry it all". Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail." The money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the closet, barely had time for my homework".He had also been riding his bike to several of the banks in his area and exchanging the $5 bills for twenties, fifties and hundreds. "I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in to exchange the money] and he was outside waiting for me.One time the lady gave me a really strange look and told me that she would not be able to do it for me and my dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)." Surprisingly, the boy did not have any reason to be afraid.The reporting news team examined and investigated the so-called "chain-letter" the boy was sending out and found that it was not a chain-letter at all.In fact, it was completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must be exchanged for money received. Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little note that read, "Please send me report number XYX".This simple note made the letter legal because he was exchanging a service (A Report on how-to) for a five-dollar fee. [This is the end of the media release. If you would like to understand how the system works and get your $71,000 - please continue reading. What appears below is what the 15 year old was sending out on the net - YOU CAN USE IT TOO - just follow the simple instructions]. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BE FINANCIALLY FREE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say "Bull", please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are "absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some megabucks with only $25 out of pocket cost". DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. Note* follow the directons below, I had best results the second time when I hired a bulk email service in addition to following the reports instructions. In order for all of us to be successful, many, many emails must be sent so that the returns are many. I have been extremely successful using the following company. They send out the offers, and all I do is accept money for reports, then I send back to the people as soon as possible. This is what one had to say: "Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in". Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and walaa ..... 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything." More testimonials later but first, PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ++++ Order all 5 reports shown on the list below +++ For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer. Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happens to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step "1 through 6" or you will loose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT #5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT #4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT #3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT #2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ **** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD #1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That equals 100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report #3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report #4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report #5. THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 +2.....$500 + 3.....$5,000 + 4..... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000....... Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? 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Oxymorons R us- Australian Intelligence.
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

The Australian Secret Intelligence Service (ASIS) Disclaimer The Australian Secret Intelligence Service (ASIS). Disclaimer. Please do not enter the web pages of the Australian Secret Intelligence ... Oh go on...be a devil... http://www.asis.gov.au/ ASIS was formed in 1952 but the organisation was not publicly acknowledged until 1977 Maybe because it was first called ASS.Aussie secret service.The I was added later for some weird reason.Maybe they were embarrassed about being set up with major input from a spy,Charles Ellis,who gave the nazi's the entire battle order of England in1940. He may have spied for the Russkies when they were at their most evil too.Guess youd want to keep that secret as long as you could. 1977. At that time the Prime Minister stated to Parliament that 'ASIS' capacity to serve Australia's national interest will continue to depend on its activities being fully protected by secrecy.' Well wouldn't you if the CIA's,"our man Kerr,"had placed you there as PM in a coup? "They have a terrific sense of humour down there in OzzieLand." W.Colby.Nugan Hand.director. ASIS is not a police or law enforcement agency. It is prohibited by law from planning for, or undertaking, paramilitary activities involving violence against the person or the use of weapons. "Cept when training eh boys!" Hahaha! http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/lcj/wayward/ch8.html Theres heaps more but I just started so Ill post this now before I get shot or something.

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NYT a Holocaust denier.
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

In the years that followed the Second World War, Lord Beaverbrook's old Sunday Express would regale its readers with the secret history of the 1939-45 conflict: "What Hitler would have done if England was under Nazi occupation"; "How Ike almost cancelled D-Day"; "Churchill's plans for using gas on Nazi invaders." Often though not always the stories were true. After war come the facts. It's not so long ago, after all, that we discovered that Nato's mighty 1999 blitz on Serbia's army netted a total of just 10 tanks. But it took Eric Lowe of Hayling Island in Hampshire to remind me of the inversion of history, the way in which historically proven facts, clearly established, come to be questioned decades later or even deleted from the record for reasons of political or moral weakness. Eric runs a magazine called Palestine Scrapbook, a journal for the old British soldiers who fought in Palestine against both Arabs and Jews until the ignominious collapse of the British mandate in 1948. In Mr Lowe's magazine, there are personal memories of the bombing of British headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem a "terrorist" bombing, of course, except that it was carried out by a man who was later to become Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin. Dennis Shelton of the King's Royal Rifle Corps writes a letter, recalling an Arab attack on a British Army lorry in Gaza. "We opened up on them, the ones who could still run away. We found two [British] army bods under the wagon, both badly wounded. I went in the ambulance with them to Rafah hospital. I was holding the side of one's head to keep his brains in. I often wondered if indeed they recovered." Mr Lowe has asked for information about the soldier whom Dennis Shelton tried to save. But he's probably wasting his time, because the British Army's first post-World War Two war the 1945-48 conflict in Palestine has been "disappeared", sidelined as something that no one wants to remember. According to Mr Lowe, many of the British campaign medals for Palestine were never issued. Dennis Peck, of the Sherwood Foresters, only realised he'd been awarded one in 1998. Until two years ago, the campaign was never mentioned at the Armistice parade in London. There's not even a definitive figure for the British troops who died around 400 were killed or died of wounds. And it took over 50 years for British veterans to get a memorial for the dead: in the end, the veterans had to pay for it from their own pockets. But in the late Forties, all Britain was seized by the war in Palestine. When Jewish gunmen hanged two British sergeants, booby-trapping their bodies into the bargain, Britons were outraged. The British, it must be added, had just hanged Jewish militants in Palestine. But now nothing. Our dead soldiers in Palestine, far from being remembered at the going down of the sun, are largely not remembered at all. So who are we frightened of here? The Arabs? The Israelis? And isn't this just a small example of the suppression of historical truth which continues over the 20th century's first holocaust? I raise this question because of a recent and deeply offensive article by Stephen Kinzer of The New York Times. Back in 1915, his paper then an honourable journal of record broke one of the great and most terrible stories of the First World War: the planned slaughter of 1.5 million Christian Armenians by the Turkish Ottoman government. The paper's headlines, based in many cases on US diplomats in Turkey, alerted the world to this genocide. By 16 September, a New York Times correspondent had spoken of "a campaign of extermination, involving the murdering of 800,000 to 1,000,000 persons". It was all true. Save for the Turkish government, a few American academics holding professorships funded by Turkey and the shameful denials of the Israeli government, there is today not a soul who doubts the nature or the extent of this genocide. Even in the 1920s, Winston Churchill himself called it a "holocaust". But not Mr Kinzer. Over the course of the past few years, he's done everything he can to destroy the integrity of his paper's brilliant, horrifying, exclusive reports of 1915. Constantly recalling Turkey's fraudulent claim that the Armenians died in the civil unrest in Asia Minor at the time, he has referred to the genocide as "ethnic cleansing" and treated the figure of 1.5 million dead as a claim something he would surely never do in reference to the 6 million Jews later murdered by the Nazis. Recently, Mr Kinzer has written about the new Armenian Genocide museum in Washington, commenting artfully that there's "a growing recognition by advocacy groups that museums can be powerful tools to advance political causes". In other words, unlike the Jewish Holocaust museum and the Jewish Holocaust itself, which would never be used by Israel to silence criticism of its cruel behaviour in the occupied territories there might be something a bit dodgy about the Armenian version. Then comes the killer. "Washington already has one major institution, the United States Holocaust Museum, that documents an effort to destroy an entire people," Mr Kinzer wrote. "The story it presents is beyond dispute. But the events of 1915 are still a matter of intense debate." Are they hell, Mr Kinzer. But why should we be surprised at this classic piece of historical revisionism? Israel's own ambassador to present-day Armenia, Rivka Cohen, has been peddling more or less the same rubbish, refusing to draw any parallels with the Jewish Holocaust and describing the Armenian Holocaust as a mere "tragedy". She is, in fact, following the official Israeli Foreign Office line that "this [Armenian Holocaust] should not be described as genocide".Israel's top Holocaust scholar, Israel Charney, has most courageously campaigned against those who lie about the Armenian genocide I advise readers to buy his stunning Encyclopaedia of Genocide and he has been joined by many other Jewish scholars. But with Turkey's alliance with Israel, its membership of Nato, its possible EU entry, and its massive arms purchases from the United States, the growing power of its well-paid lobby groups has smothered even their efforts. Which raises one last question. Armenian academics have been investigating the identity of those young German officers who were training the Ottoman army in 1915 and who in some cases actually witnessed the Armenian Holocaust whose victims were, in some cases, transported to their deaths in railway cattle-cars. Several of those German soldiers' names, it now transpires, crop up again just over a quarter of a century later as senior Wehrmacht officers in Russia, helping Hitler to carry out the Jewish Holocaust. Even the dimmest of us might think there was a frightening connection here. But not, I guess, Mr Kinzer. Nor the modern-day New York Times, which is so keen to trash its own historic exclusives for fear of what Turkey or Israel might say. Personally, I'd call it all a form of Holocaust denial. http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?dir=140&story=3289…

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In the Kingdom of Fear.
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

Gonzomeister Hunter S Thomson on 9-11. Q: what I'd really like to know is your reactions on September 11th .. could I get you to tell that story ... A: ... in a low-key way, I had in fact just finished a sports column for ESPN, and no sooner gone over the wire, and I was on the phone with editor john walsh, he was saying you have to write about this disaster. I'd been gong to bed after, I guess my column was late -- TV was on, just for the news, and I happened to see the first plane hit in my fogged condition -- I'd been up all night writing the column ... I don't know why, I'd seen enough real -- yeah there was no mistaking the reality of that, didn't make much sense, and it still doesnâ??t really but -- here we go, this is a column I wrote, lets see -- "It was just after dawn in Woody Creek, Colorado when the first plane hit the WTC in NYC on Tuesday morning and as usual I was writing about sports. But not for long. Football suddenly seemed irrelevant compared to scenes of utter devastation coming out of NY on the television. Q: you went on to say in that article which I have in front of me that even ESPN was broadcasting war news. It was the worst disaster in the history of the US. do you think that the event completely transformed the way in which Americans see themselves and their vulnerability A: No, the event by itself would not have done that. I've seen planes hit the Empire State Building before, I've been blown totally out of my mind, people have been killed, but it was the way the administration was able to use that event and use it as a springboard for anything they wanted to do. Now that may tell you something. I remember when I was writing that column, you sort of wonder when something like that happens, well, who stands to benefit, You know, it's like murder, you know, who had the opportunity and the motive, you just kinda look at these basic things, and Uh, I don't know if I want to go into this on world-wide radio here, but Q: You may as well A: All right, I thought that the US government was gonna benefit, and the White House people. I thought, a distraction to take the mind of the public off of the crashing economy. Now you want to keep in mind that every time a person named Bush goes into office, the nation goes into a drastic --recession, they call it. Q: It sounds almost like the plot of that film Wag the Dog, where film producers sort of concocted a national event to inspire patriotism to take the public's mind off misdemeanors committed by the president, I mean, it seems a very long bow to me, but are you sort of suggesting that this worked in the favor of the Bush administration? A: absolutely, I sort of had time on the inside of the white house and of campaigns and I know enough to know that the public version of an event is never really what happened, and these people I think are willing to take that even further so that I don't assume that I know the truth about what went on that day and yeah, well, I just look around and who had the motive, who had the opportunity, the equipment, and the will. These people were looting the treasury and they knew that the economy was going into a spiral downward Q: from this distance though it does seem extraordinarily conspiratorial that you, that you could sit there and you could see the hand of the US government in that rather than saying international terrorists bent on somehow hurting America and the American people. What sort of reaction did your views get amongst other journalists? A: (Laughs) well, it was greeted universally with kind of nervousness and almost nobody agreed with me. No it was about 99 to 1. But since then... Q: Did you publish those views anywhere? A: I'm not sure if Iâ??ve said that, but if I haven't I meant to, let's see.. Q: I was going to ask you for the reaction to them, because I mean I don't want to seem Pollyanaish here but it does seem an extraordinary conspiracy theory that you're putting forward, that your first reaction was that it was the US government rather than an enemy of the US government A: well, you want to keep in mind that I have lived not just through but very close to a lot of real tragedies in this country, and let me ask you, do you think that you know who killed John Kennedy or Robert Kennedy? Q: Look, I have to say that I was a boy at the time, and no I havenâ??t read the warren commission report, but it seemed to me that in this case, there were so many more people involved, it would seem to be much less likely some sort of internal conspiracy A: well, it does, well I can see where you're a little edgy accepting this from me, Q: well, let me just ask you on that, you've pioneered a kind of journalism called gonzo journalism in which it's almost like thereâ??s no revision, what you see and feel is what goes down on and it's that first blush, that first image that hits the readership. Does that mean that in a way, it's hard for you to appear credible within the US media, people would say that "oh that's just another conspiracy theory from a drug-addled gonzo journalist like Hunter S. Thompson"? A: yeah, that's a problem, Iâ??m not sure if it's my problem or other people's -- or theirs. I mean in this column and the one after it -- I've been right so oftem, my percentages are so high, I'll stand by this column that I wrote that day, and the next one. So that, what appears to be maybe gonzo journalism... Well, I'm not sure, I'm not going to claim any prophetic powers but Q: One of the things you do say in that first article you wrote, you say, "It's now 24 hours later. we're not getting much information about the 5 Ws of this." Now by the "5 Ws" I'm assuming you mean, the who, what, why, how -- is that still how you feel, that a year later those key questions havenâ??t been answered? A: Absolutely, it's even worse now -- I mean this is just a suggestion, 24 hours later 5 Ws. We're still not getting -- well how much have we got beyond that? How much more do we have than we had a year ago? Damn little, I think. We know a lot about the firemen who died. A lot about the people who stole the money from their charity funds, A lot about the people who donated all that blood, the red cross had to throw away 5 tons of blood, something like that, that may be exaggeration, But no, I will stand by almost all my, uh, well, no no, get a grip on yourself, Doc, when you talk like that... Q: Well, just, Hunter S Thompson, let me ask you about your new book I mean "The Kingdom of Fear, Loathsome Secrets of a Star-Crossed Child of the American Dream". It's a very apocalyptic title. Has this book, this new book, has it come off your reflections about Sept 11th and how it was handled by the American media? A: well, it came off of yeah, the atmosphere in this country as of September 12. Yeah, kingdom of fear. That's the way I see this country and thatâ??s -- Iâ??m not writing just a long screed, you know, front to back, I'm not writing a political tract. But in the book, I'm trying to explain a little bit about how I got this way, and why you should pay attention to my predictions Q: is this a critical time for the credibility of US journalism, how this current war, how it's being covered and who it's being reported on and the sort of information US people get? Is this a critical test of the credibility of US journalism? A: I think definitely, but Iâ??m not sure how much credibility US journalism really has, given that we in 5 years we lost 2 presidents and a civil rights leader to mysterious bombs and assassins, you know, bushy haired strangers, and US journalism has never dug out the truth about that. One of my great shames as a journalist is that I still don't know who killed John Kennedy. There's no doubt that I don't know and there's not much doubt that journalism in general doesn't know, and in a lot of ways that may be because we haven't asked. When I say asked, I mean the people who uh --well most of the witnesses were killed, werenâ??t they? Q: but does that need for certainty, is that what underpins your critique, that US journalism has failed to provide in your life the key answers to key events that you needed answered? A: well, I would say that and would include myself, I worked as hard as anybody -- the rules really changed when Reagan came in and started these test invasions of other countries, and when they decided to test the policy of no more battlefield access for any journalist. See, Vietnam was totally different, and that's why we got that war ended. But, I start with Grenada and thatâ??s in this book too. You could see it forming right there. I'd never seen journalists beat up by military police and hogtied in the middle of the road. I'd always had press pass and access. But when the military -- the Pentagon reallyâ??-thatâ??s when they seized the advantage and never gave it up. The military still are not letting people know what's happening in Afghanistan and wherever they're fighting. Itâ??s always press releases or staged events Q: Hunter S Thompson, do you think that the so called gonzo style of journalism for which youâ??ve become famous and some would say notorious, do you think that there's a specific legacy that makes that type of journalism work, makes it more necessary at the moment? A: Well, I've never defined that term even for myself Q: what do you think it does mean ? A: Well, from my point of view it means being very skeptical of any pronouncements of authority, and that as a gambler, it's a bit of an even bet that if you question the statements and truths of the white house that more often than not youâ??ll be right, and I just try to get as close to the truth as possible in order to find out what's really happening, and in fact a lot of times itâ??s weirder than what happens in my stories. I mean the truth is usually stranger than fiction. At least in my life. Q: HST, will you be at home watching the commemoration programs on the 11th of September? Will you be among the audience which I imagine will number tens of millions that watch what happens in New York? A: that's a good point, thatâ??s a good question and, no I wonâ??t -- I think I'll take a road trip or just go off and have a little fun. Why sit around and watch that stuff? Now what I'm afraid of, see is that that's going to be a cover for a sudden move on Iraq -- you know, that that little monster will come on and take the TV and say "today we invaded Iraq". Now, this seems so impossible that I'd be happy to lose money on it if I bet on it, but it seems too logical for that kind of Texas thug mindset that this is a time to do it. I can't think of a better time if I was gonna do it, letâ??s put it that way. Q: Because the nation's effectively distracted by the commemorations in NY that itâ??s almost like saying "Quick while no oneâ??s paying attention let's invade another country" A: exactly, and itâ??s so cynical and so stupid and so self-defeating in the long run that youâ??d think that nobody in their right mind, no president would plunge us into a war like that, with no allies and no __the other side of the world Q: just out of interest, for these kinds of comments to be broadcast on this network, which is part of the public broadcasting network, it occurs to me that you probably wouldnâ??t hear those sorts of comments on many other outlets in the US. Where would ... to give voice to your conspiracy theories about the role of the US government.? A: well. I definitely will be when this book comes out in December. Now unfortunately we're going to have this election here in November. And that's going to be a really key time in this country to vote. I've been working on this book for so long, I feel like Iâ??ve been in a decompression chamber of some kind. Q: Where else would people hear views like yours. I know theyâ??re coming out later in the year in your book, But across the US media, where would these very critical comments such as the one you've been making come out? A: where else, eh? Where indeed. I know a lot of journalists across the country who would agree with me. But whether theyâ??re writing this stuff and saying it in public I donâ??t know. Now you could ask Maureen Dowd whether she feels Iâ??m right. Boy, it really is lonely out here. Q: HST, just as a final question -- it's a big question, let me ask it anyway. How did you see, as a critic on the left of â?¦ how do you see the future of journalism in your country? A: Well, I have a very dim view of it, I guess which I really thought was unbounded after Watergate but right now, thereâ??s not a hell of a lot of reason to be optimistic about it, because of the uh, not just because of this one huge scam they pulled off here, but because of the everyday reality of, uh, journalism is celebrity-driven. The news over here barely covers, ...I watch some BBC and some CNN foreign news, world news that doesnâ??t get into the country. I read Paris herald tribune that kind of news doesn't get through in this country. You have to read the NY Times very carefully to maybe see what they're talking about. But, I don't think my views would be seen as absurd or out of the question in most countries of the world. Q: Do you ever worry given the climate and the surge of patriotism in the country, that you could be personally at risk, that your own personal security might be threatened A: yeah, I think about it. Definitely could be true Q: have there been occurrences youâ??ve been threatened? A: oh yeah. I have been all my life. But in journalism, that sort of goes with the territory, thereâ??s going to be threats and thereâ??s going to be... people are very unhappy -- knock knock -- It's a matter of luck. I pretty well stuck to my battle plan, yeah they tried to come after me, the federal government, all kinds of governments, Iâ??ve had constant wars in courts, I keep some of the finest criminal lawyers on retainer. But that's how it goes -- the stork didn't bring the bill of rights, you have to fight for it. Q: So that's how you'd see yourself, as fighting for freedom of speech in America? A: Absolutely. http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=201001&group=webcast

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CEO's are Psychopaths.
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

"As well, psychopaths have been known to excel as politicians and lawyers..." Chief executives should be screened to weed out psychopaths: researcher Thursday August 28, 2002 - 16:00:33 EST MICHAEL MACDONALD ST. JOHN'S, Nfld. (CP) - At the conclusion of a sobering presentation littered with photos of Mafia hit men and sex offenders, Canadian researcher Robert Hare turns his attention to a little-known subset of psychopaths: the corporate kind. Hare, a world-renowned expert on psychopaths, then makes the provocative suggestion that some of the recent, blue-chip accounting scandals could have been prevented if all chief executives were screened for psychopathic behaviours. Please see below for some traits shared by psychopaths "Why wouldn't we want to screen for them?" he said Wednesday after a speech to 150 members of the Canadian Police Association. "We screen . . . police, teachers. Why not people who are going to handle hundreds of billions of dollars?" The problem is that corporate head hunters rely on resumes and standard face-to-face interviews, which reveal little about a candidate's psychological profile. "The average psychopath has no trouble moving through that process," said Hare, who teaches at the University of British Columbia. "That's not even a hurdle." Hare estimates that about one per cent of the population - that's about 300,000 people in Canada - are clinical psychopaths. That's why he's working on something called the B-Scan, a rough checklist to help recruiters quickly spot psychopathic character traits among potential employees. It will be loosely based on a 90-item checklist called a P-Scan, which Hare developed for police officials, prosecutors, corrections personnel and hostage negotiators. Through his research, Hare has found psychopaths possess a cluster of personality traits, which are reflected in their relationships, emotions and lifestyle. Aside from having no hint of a conscience, psychopaths have a barren emotional life marked by few close relationships, impulsive behaviour and an inflated sense of self. They are deceitful, short-tempered and display early behavioural problems that later become anti-social. They also crave excitement and are irresponsible. "They are the central star in their universe," Hare told the crowd as photos of well-known business executives flashed on the big screen behind him. Most of the pictures were taken from recent newspaper articles related to the collapse of energy trader Enron Corp. and telecom giant WorldCom Inc. The deceptive accounting practices and fraudulent dealings of these and other companies in the United States and Canada have led to huge losses on the stock market, massive layoffs and a string of court cases. "These are callous, cold-blooded individuals . . . They don't care that you have thoughts and feelings. They have no sense of guilt and remorse." That's why the arrogant, manipulative behaviour of psychopaths often make them prime candidates for promotion within large corporations built on ruthless competition. As well, psychopaths have been known to excel as politicians and lawyers, Hare says, drawing a round of laughter from the crowd at a downtown hotel. "They have to make decisions very quickly, and they can't worry too much about the potential impact on individuals," Hare said afterward. More importantly, their utter lack of empathy makes them perfect for carrying out budget cuts and layoffs. "That's when the psychopath moves in: rightsizing, downsizing, upsizing. When there's chaos, when the rules no longer apply - enter stage right the psychopath. A psychopath flourishes in that atmosphere." Still, identifying a psychopath isn't easy. Even a checklist isn't much use unless the interviewer has access to the candidate's family, friends and colleagues. "If an agency is willing to spend the money to do a proper job, then you can screen a lot of these people out," Hare said. "If you interview family members and friends, you'll realize there are lots of clues." - Some traits shared by psychopaths: Emotions: Glib, superficial, arrogant, narcissistic, egocentric, ruthless and short-tempered with a distinct lack of empathy and no conscience or sense of remorse. Relationships: Few close relationships and deceitful, but can be incredibly manipulative and charming despite shallow emotions. Lifestyle: Irresponsible, impulsive and sensation seeking but quite rational and able to act in real world. Early social problems often develop into anti-social behaviour later in life. Not rare: Estimated two million psychopaths in North America. Causes: Not scientifically known. Studies suggest a combination of nature and nurture, including abnormal brain functioning. No effective therapy. Source: Without Conscience, by Robert Hare (Guilford Press, 1999) © The Canadian Press, 2002 http://www.therecord.com/business/b082837A.html

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What do you call 2 americans shot dead?
by Matthew X 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

A good start. A top figure in a terrorist group has told his armed fighters to target American interests and to extort, kidnap and murder American citizens. "The United States has declared war," he said in a radio message to armed followers. "Your obligation is to fight them." Instructions from a bin Laden deputy holed up in a cave somewhere? Maybe a radical Islamic band in Pakistan? Or extremists in the land of our "ally" Saudi Arabia? None of the above. Wrong region. The threat comes from our very own hemisphere, and was issued by professor Rat. "Leading the world to higher consciousness through mockery and cheap publicity stunts." Face It: Mental Health Isn't for Everyone "...Professor Rat is fully responsible the lives of two Americans and one Indonesian who have been killed today, 31 August 2002. In his ceremonial speech at the 57th anniversary of the unitary Republic of Indonesia (NKRI) on 17 August 2002, he said, "Papua is not a conflict area!", which indicated: - that he does not care at all about and totally ignore the complexities of problems in his own country; - that he is one of the agents of and has already been bought up by the colonial power of NKRI in West Papua; - that he has betrayed his people and his country, and particularly those who died for their independence; Salossa furthermore claimed West Papua as a "Peace Zone" a term that Operasi Adil Matoa 2002 has been using to eliminate the independence movement. "West Papua is not a Peace Zone, it is absolutely a War Zone since 1961, when Trikora was declared in Yogyakarta (Indonesia, 19 December 1961)", says the courier quoting Gen. Murib. "West Papua does have complexities of problems, be it political, economic, human rights, legal, peace, security, and so on. West Papua has people who were killed, who are suffering and who are being chased day and night," Murib was quoted saying. It has flora and fauna as well as natural resources being exploited massively without any concern at all to the ecology and ecosystem of our heritage. Furthermore, he claimed, "Freeport MacMoRan, Copper & Gold Inc. is politically, environmentally and legally responsible for problems in West Papua. Freeport was the compensation given to the states for allowing West Papua to be occupied by ndonesia. "Freeport is a bloody political project of the modern world that has sacrificed the livelihood of tribal people in West Papua. Papuan people have something to do with it, if not today, it will be done tomorrow, surely, surely!"Gen. Murib also said, "West Papuan people have been demanding Indonesia to open a dialogue table, but has refused to do so and it has responded with brutal acts, by exploiting, raping, killing and hunting other humans into the jungles. The colonial governor of Papua is not listening to his people's demand for dialogue, but advocating its bosses' orders to implement special autonomy by force. "Jaap Salossa is indeed fully responsible to give answers to the world: "IS NOT WEST PAPUA A CONFLICT TERRITORY? www.westpapua.net

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