September 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Prosecutors' Contention That Hotmail E-mail Is "Extremely Difficult To Trace"
by James A. Donald 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

-- On 5 Sep 2002 at 16:48, Steve Schear wrote: > 3. After September 11, 2001, the FBI learned that Moussaoui > had used a computer at Kinko s, in Eagan, Minnesota, to > connect to the internet. When the FBI learned that Moussaoui > had used a computer at Kinko s, the FBI investigated that > Kinko s store and was informed that the Kinko s had since > erased the data from its computers, as is Kinko s regular > practice. Accordingly, the FBI did not seize the computers > from Kinko s, Eagan, Minnesota. Moral: Always make erasing unneeded data a regular practice, if you want to keep your computers. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG u8fODkiRQptIbG0Gx/8TsyWhAaSyUi6bqxXcPoch 2gQB3HYsyrY6lY1CcTlNf5xm+nfdUNkDNFH91bpFH

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Re: Wolfram on randomness and RNGs
by David E. Weekly 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

It would seem that while the bitstream generated by the center column of rule 30 might be a good random number source, its repeatability is the very thing that detracts from its usefulness in cryptographic application. An obviously poor application would be to have a "one time pad" where two parties would xor their plaintext with the bitstream produced by rule 30, starting at the top. While the resulting bitstream would appear random, an attacker with knowledge of the algorithm could just run rule 30 themselves and decode the result. To have cryptographically strong random numbers, one needs to have an *unreproducable* source of randomness -- the very thing that Wolfram seems to sneer at as being purely academic but that the above methodology makes clear. While a slightly modified approach of having both sides start at a secret row of rule 30 could be used, the key is now merely the row number; defeating the purpose. One interesting possibility might be to "seed" a wide row of rule 30 with bits gleamed from the environment; this would make it difficult to reproduce the bitstream without the bits representing the initial conditions, but without continuing to add bits to rows, the "bit strength" of the randomness is only the width of the seeded row (namely, if you're using 8 bits of randomness to seed rule 30, an attacker could brute force the 256 possibilities to find your random bitstream). The problem is, IMHO, exactly analogous to deriving randomness from irrational numbers, such as the digits of pi, e, or the square root of two; this just might be a slightly more efficient way to generate the bitstream. The point is, they're all very good sources of randomness, but the fact that their sequences are so well-defined keeps them from being a good source of secrecy; picking out which portions of the sequence to use end up becoming your secret and your sequence is truly only as unpredictable as this secret. In another sense, the sequence you're using is only as strong as its inputs. Just my $0.02; please bitchslap me if I got this wrong. David E. Weekly Founder & Executive Director California Community Colocation Project (an OPG project) http://CommunityColo.net/ - the world's first non-profit colo! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Schear" <schear(a)lvcm.com> To: <cypherpunks(a)lne.com> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Wolfram on randomness and RNGs > Background > Stephen Wolfram's book, "A New Kind of Science," is nothing if not > interesting. This encyclopedia-sized volume traces how his fascination > with cellular automata, beginning in the 1970s, led him to spend decades > exploring the significance of complexity created from simple rules. > > I hope the following will not be too wordy and generate interest in the > cryptographic implications of his work. > > Intrinsic Generation of Randomness > In the chapter "Mechanisms and Programs in Nature," pp 297 - 361, he > presents his case that behavioral similarities between certain simple > programs and systems in nature are no coincidence but reflect a deep > correspondence. In this section he explores three mechanisms for > randomness: external input (noise) captured in so-called stochastic models, > those related to initial conditions (e.g., chaos theory), and those based > on the behavior of simple programs described in the book and which believes > are the most common in nature. > > Under the section "The Intrinsic Generation of Randomness" he presents > evidence for his third mechanism in which no random input from the outside > is needed, and in which the randomness is instead generated inside the > systems themselves. > > "When one says that something seems random, what one usually means in > practice is that one cannot see any regularities in it. So when we say that > a particular phenomenon in nature seems random, what we mean is that none > of our standard methods of analysis have succeeded in finding regularities > in it. To assess the randomness of a sequence produced by something like a > cellular automaton, therefore, what we must do is to apply to it the same > methods of analysis as we do to natural systems" > > ... some of these methods have been well codified in standard mathematics > and statistics, while others are effectively implicit in our processes of > visual and other perception. But the remarkable fact is that none of these > methods seem to reveal any real regularities whatsoever in the rule 30 > cellular automaton sequence. And thus, so far as one can tell, this > sequence is at least as random as anything we see in nature. > > But is it truly random? > > Over the past century or so, a variety of definitions of true randomness > have been proposed. And according to most of these definitions, the > sequence is indeed truly random. But there are a certain class of > definitions which do not consider it truly random. > > For these definitions are based on the notion of classifying as truly > random only sequences which can never be generated by any simple procedure > whatsoever. Yet starting with a simple initial condition and then applying > a simple cellular automaton rule constitutes a simple procedure. And as a > result, the center column of rule 30 cannot be considered truly random > according to such definitions. > > But while definitions of this type have a certain conceptual appeal, they > are not likely to be useful in discussions of randomness in nature. For as > we will see later in this book, it is almost certainly impossible for any > natural process ever to generate a sequence which is guaranteed to be truly > random according to such definitions. > > For our purposes more useful definitions tend to concentrate not so much on > whether there exists in principle a simple way to generate a particular > sequence, but rather on whether such a way can realistically be recognized > by applying various kinds of analysis to the sequence. And as discussed > above, there is good evidence that the center column of rule 30 is indeed > random according to all reasonable definitions of this kind. > > So whether or not one chooses to say that the sequence is truly random, it > is, as far as one can tell, at least random for all practical purposes. And > in fact sequences closely related to it have been used very successfully as > sources of randomness in practical computing. > > For many years, most kinds of computer systems and languages have had > facilities for generating what they usually call random numbers. And in > Mathematica ever since it was first released Random [integer] has > generated 0's and 1's using exactly the rule 30 cellular automaton. > > The way this works is that every time Random [Integer] is called, another > step in the cellular automaton evolution is performed, and the value of the > cell in the center is returned. But one difference from the picture two > pages ago is that for practical reasons the pattern is not allowed to grow > wider and wider forever. Instead, it is wrapped around in a region that is > a few hundred cells wide. > > One consequence of this, as discussed on page 259, is that the sequence of > 0's and 1's that is generated must then eventually repeat. But even with > the fastest foreseeable computers, the actual period of repetition will > typically be more than a billion billion times the age of the universe. > > Another issue is that if one always ran the cellular automaton from page > 315 with the particular initial condition shown there, then one would > always get exactly the same sequence of 0's and 1's. But by using different > initial conditions one can get completely different sequences. And in > practice if the initial conditions are not explicitly specified, what > Mathematica does, for example, is to use as an initial condition a > representation of various features of the exact state of the computer > system at the time when Random was first called. > > The rule 30 cellular automaton provides a particularly clear and good > example of intrinsic randomness generation. But in previous chapters we > have seen many other examples of systems that also intrinsically produce > apparent randomness. And it turns out that one of these is related to the > method used since the late 1940s for generating random numbers in almost > all practical computer systems. > > The pictures on the facing page show what happens if one successively > multiplies a number by various constant factors, and then looks at the > digit sequences of the numbers that result. As we first saw on page 119, > the patterns of digits obtained in this way seem quite random. And the idea > of so-called linear congruential random number generators is precisely to > make use of this randomness. > > For practical reasons, such generators typically keep only, say, the > rightmost 31 digits in the numbers at each step. Yet even with this > restriction, the sequences generated are random enough that at least until > recently they were almost universally what was used as a source of > randomness in practical computing. > > So in a sense linear congruential generators are another example of the > general phenomenon of intrinsic randomness generation. But it turns out > that in some respects they are rather unusual and misleading. > > Keeping only a limited number of digits at each step makes it inevitable > that the sequences produced will eventually repeat. And one of the reasons > for the popularity of linear congruential generators is that with fairly > straightforward mathematical analysis it is possible to tell exactly what > multiplication factors will maximize this repetition period. > > It has then often been assumed that having maximal repetition period will > somehow imply maximum randomness in all aspects of the sequence one gets. > But in practice over the years, one after another linear congruential > generator that has been constructed to have maximal repetition period has > turned out to exhibit very substantial deviations from perfect randomness. > > A typical kind of failure, illustrated in the pictures on the next page, is > that points with coordinates determined by successive numbers from the > generator turn out to be distributed in an embarrassingly regular way. At > first, such failures might suggest that more complicated schemes must be > needed if one is to get good randomness. And indeed with this thought in > mind all sorts of elaborate combinations of linear congruential and other > generators have been proposed. But although some aspects of the behavior of > such systems can be made quite random, deviations from perfect randomness > are still often found. > > And seeing this one might conclude that it must be essentially impossible > to produce good randomness with any kind of system that has reasonably > simple rules. But the rule 30 cellular automaton that we discussed above > demonstrates that in fact this is absolutely not the case. Indeed, the > rules for this cellular automaton are in some respects much simpler than > for even a rather basic linear congruential generator. Yet the sequences it > produces seem perfectly random, and do not suffer from any of the problems > that are typically found in linear congruential generators. > > So why do linear congruential generators not produce better randomness? > Ironically, the basic reason is also the reason for their popularity. The > point is that unlike the rule 30 cellular automaton that we discussed > above, linear congruential generators are readily amenable to detailed > mathematical analysis. And as a result, it is possible for example to > guarantee that a particular generator will indeed have a maximal repetition > period. > > Almost inevitably, however, having such a maximal period implies a certain > regularity. And in fact, as we shall see later in this book, the very > possibility of any detailed mathematical analysis tends to imply the > presence of at least some deviations from perfect randomness. > > But if one is not constrained by the need for such analysis, then as we saw > in the cellular automaton example above, remarkably simple rules can > successfully generate highly random behavior. > > And indeed the existence of such simple rules is crucial in making it > plausible that the general mechanism of intrinsic randomness generation can > be widespread in nature. For if the only way for intrinsic randomness > generation to occur was through very complicated sets of rules, then one > would expect that this mechanism would be seen in practice only in a few > very special cases. > > But the fact that simple cellular automaton rules are sufficient to give > rise to intrinsic randomness generation suggests that in reality it is > rather easy for this mechanism to occur. And as a result, one can expect > that the mechanism will be found often in nature. > > So how does the occurrence of this mechanism compare to the previous two > mechanisms for randomness that we have discussed? > > The basic answer, I believe, is that whenever a large amount of randomness > is produced in a short time, intrinsic randomness generation is > overwhelmingly likely to be the mechanism responsible. > > We saw in the previous section that random details of the initial > conditions for a system can lead to a certain amount of randomness in the > behavior of a system. But as we discussed, there is in most practical > situations a limit on the lengths of sequences whose randomness can > realistically be attributed to such a mechanism. With intrinsic randomness > generation, however, there is no such limit: in the cellular automaton > above, for example, all one need do to get a longer random sequence is to > run the cellular automaton for more steps. > > But it is also possible to get long random sequences by continual > interaction with a random external environment, as in the first mechanism > for randomness discussed in this chapter. > > The issue with this mechanism, however, is that it can take a long time to > get a given amount of goodquality randomness from it. And the point is that > in most cases, intrinsic randomness generation can produce similar > randomness in a much shorter time. > > Indeed, in general, intrinsic randomness generation tends to be much more > efficient than getting randomness from the environment. The basic reason is > that intrinsic randomness generation in a sense puts all the components in > a system to work in producing new randomness, while getting randomness from > the environment does not. > > Thus, for example, in the rule 30 cellular automaton discussed above, every > cell in effect actively contributes to the randomness we see. But in a > system that just amplifies randomness from the environment, none of the > components inside the system itself ever contribute any new randomness at > all. Indeed, ironically enough, the more components that are involved in > the process of amplification, the slower it will typically be to get each > new piece of random output. For as we discussed two sections ago, each > component in a sense adds what one can consider to be more inertia to the > amplification process. > > But with a larger number of components it becomes progressively easier for > randomness to be generated through intrinsic randomness generation. And > indeed unless the underlying rules for the system somehow explicitly > prevent it, it turns out in the end that intrinsic randomness generation > will almost inevitably occuroften producing so much randomness that it > completely swamps any randomness that might be produced from either of the > other two mechanisms. > > Yet having said this, one can ask how one can tell in an actual experiment > on some particular system in nature to what extent intrinsic randomness > generation is really tie mechanism responsible for whatever seemingly > random behavior one observed. > > The clearest sign is a somewhat unexpected phenomenon: that details of the > random behavior can be repeatable from one run of the experiment to > another. It is not surprising that general features of the behavior will be > the same. But what is remarkable is that if intrinsic randomness generation > is the mechanism at work, then the precise details of the behavior can also > be repeatable. > > In the mechanism where randomness comes from continual interaction with the > environment, no repeatability can be expected. For every time the > experiment is run, the state of the environment will be different, and so > the behavior one sees will also be correspondingly different. And > similarly, in the mechanism where randomness comes from the details of > initial conditions, there will again be little, if any, repeatability. For > the details of the initial conditions are typically affected by the > environment of the system, and cannot realistically be kept the same from > one run to another. > > But the point is that with the mechanism of intrinsic randomness > generation, there is no dependence on the environment. And as a result, so > long as the setup of the system one is looking at remains the same, the > behavior it produces will be exactly the same. Thus for example, however > many times one runs a rule 30 cellular automaton, starting with a single > black cell, the behavior one gets will always be exactly the same. And so > for example the sequence of colors of the center cell, while seemingly > random, will also be exactly the same."

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URGENT ASSISTANCE
by MR KESTA UGWU 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

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Foundstone Labs Advisory - Remotely Exploitable Buffer Overflow in PGP
by Foundstone Labs 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Foundstone Labs Advisory - 090502-PCRO Advisory Name: Remotely Exploitable Buffer Overflow in PGP Release Date: September 5, 2002 Application: PGP Corporate Desktop 7.1.1 Platforms: Windows 2000/XP Severity: Remote code execution and plaintext passphrase disclosure Vendors: PGP Corporation (http://www.pgp.com) Authors: Tony Bettini (tony.bettini(a)foundstone.com) CVE Candidate: CAN-2002-0850 Reference: http://www.foundstone.com/advisories Overview: In many locations where PGP handles files, the length of the filename is not properly checked. As a result, PGP Corporate Desktop will crash if a user attempts to encrypt or decrypt a file with a long filename. A remote attacker may create an encrypted document, that when decrypted by a user running PGP, would allow for remote commands to be executed on the client's computer. Detailed Description: A malicious attacker could create a filename containing: <196 bytes><eip><9 bytes><readable address><29 bytes> The attacker would then encrypt the file using the public key of the target user. In many cases, public keys often contain banners of the utilized PGP client software and its associated version. The encrypted archive could then be sent to the target user; potentially via a Microsoft Outlook attachment. The email attachment could have a filename such as "foryoureyesonly.pgp" or "confidential.pgp". When the unsuspecting user decrypts the archive (either via autodecrypt or manual), the overflow will occur if the file within the archive has a long filename. In some cases the attacker may also obtain the passphrase of the target user. PGP crashes immediately after the decryption of the malicious file and before the memory containing the passphrase is overwritten. Vendor Response: PGP has issued a fix for this vulnerability, it is available at: http://www.nai.com/naicommon/download/upgrade/patches/patch-pgphotfix.as p Foundstone would like to thank PGP for their cooperation with the remediation of this vulnerability. Solution: We recommend applying the vendor patch. Disclaimer: The information contained in this advisory is copyright (c) 2002 Foundstone, Inc. and is believed to be accurate at the time of publishing, but no representation of any warranty is given, express, or implied as to its accuracy or completeness. In no event shall the author or Foundstone be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, exemplary or consequential damages resulting from the use or misuse of this information. This advisory may be redistributed, provided that no fee is assigned and that the advisory is not modified in any way. ----- End forwarded message -----

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Foundstone Labs Advisory - Remotely Exploitable Buffer Overflow in PGP
by Foundstone Labs 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Foundstone Labs Advisory - 090502-PCRO Advisory Name: Remotely Exploitable Buffer Overflow in PGP Release Date: September 5, 2002 Application: PGP Corporate Desktop 7.1.1 Platforms: Windows 2000/XP Severity: Remote code execution and plaintext passphrase disclosure Vendors: PGP Corporation (http://www.pgp.com) Authors: Tony Bettini (tony.bettini(a)foundstone.com) CVE Candidate: CAN-2002-0850 Reference: http://www.foundstone.com/advisories Overview: In many locations where PGP handles files, the length of the filename is not properly checked. As a result, PGP Corporate Desktop will crash if a user attempts to encrypt or decrypt a file with a long filename. A remote attacker may create an encrypted document, that when decrypted by a user running PGP, would allow for remote commands to be executed on the client's computer. Detailed Description: A malicious attacker could create a filename containing: <196 bytes><eip><9 bytes><readable address><29 bytes> The attacker would then encrypt the file using the public key of the target user. In many cases, public keys often contain banners of the utilized PGP client software and its associated version. The encrypted archive could then be sent to the target user; potentially via a Microsoft Outlook attachment. The email attachment could have a filename such as "foryoureyesonly.pgp" or "confidential.pgp". When the unsuspecting user decrypts the archive (either via autodecrypt or manual), the overflow will occur if the file within the archive has a long filename. In some cases the attacker may also obtain the passphrase of the target user. PGP crashes immediately after the decryption of the malicious file and before the memory containing the passphrase is overwritten. Vendor Response: PGP has issued a fix for this vulnerability, it is available at: http://www.nai.com/naicommon/download/upgrade/patches/patch-pgphotfix.as p Foundstone would like to thank PGP for their cooperation with the remediation of this vulnerability. Solution: We recommend applying the vendor patch. Disclaimer: The information contained in this advisory is copyright (c) 2002 Foundstone, Inc. and is believed to be accurate at the time of publishing, but no representation of any warranty is given, express, or implied as to its accuracy or completeness. In no event shall the author or Foundstone be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, exemplary or consequential damages resulting from the use or misuse of this information. This advisory may be redistributed, provided that no fee is assigned and that the advisory is not modified in any way. ----- End forwarded message -----

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Google mirror beats Great Firewall o
by Steve Schear 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Google mirror beats Great Firewall of China 15:55 06 September 02 NewScientist.com news service China's widely criticised blocking of the web's most popular search engine Google can be defeated by viewing a strange Google mirror site through a mirror, New Scientist has discovered. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992768

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Prime Rib.
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Analysis Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer announced Aug. 29 that a free trade agreement (FTA) with the United States has become a "key third-term priority" for his government. Support for a deal is growing on both sides of the Pacific, as it would greatly enhance economic and political cooperation between the two allies. However, despite the fact that U.S. President George W. Bush recently received congressional approval for trade promotion authority -- giving him the power to negotiate trade deals that Congress cannot amend -- negotiations with Canberra will not proceed as quickly as they recently have with Singapore or Morocco. There are several obstacles in place that will prevent any deal from being finalized before 2005 or implemented before 2008. An FTA between Canberra and Washington would invigorate an already robust and friendly relationship. Australia was one of the first states to commit forces to the U.S. war on terrorism, as well as to the campaign in Afghanistan. Australia also has accepted the role of <America's deputy in the region http://www.stratfor.com/standard/analysis_view.php?ID=100377> and of the southern anchor in Washington's Asia-Pacific defense strategy. In addition, Canberra enjoys nearly unfettered access to U.S. military technology and intelligence. http://www.stratfor.com/fib/fib_view.php?ID=206025 A recent statement by the head of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration directly links illicit drug trafficking in the United States to Middle Eastern militant groups. The U.S. administration could use the issue to put more diplomatic pressure on Middle Eastern governments such as Syria and Iran. Analysis U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration chief Asa Hutchinson told CNN Sept. 2 that money from illicit drug sales in the United States is being used to fund Middle Eastern militant organizations, including Lebanon-based Hezbollah. More than 130 people, many of them of Middle Eastern origin, reportedly were arrested earlier this year when authorities busted a methamphetamine ring in the Midwest. According to the CNN report, the DEA found that the alleged drug dealers had laundered millions of dollars in the United States and had wired the money to bank accounts connected to terrorist groups in Lebanon and Yemen. There are several possible motives behind Hutchinson's linking of Middle Eastern militants to drug trafficking, but in any case it could reshape both U.S. domestic and foreign policy. Hutchinson's comments may be part of an attempt by the DEA to reinvigorate the U.S. war on drugs -- as well as get more funds for anti-drug efforts in Colombia -- by tying terrorism to narcotics trafficking. Congress will come back into session soon and will begin deciding budget allotments. Since Sept. 11, many agencies, including the U.S. Coast Guard, have focused less on drug interdiction efforts in places like the Gulf of Mexico and more on homeland defense issues like port security. The DEA would like to see this attention shift back more toward drugs. Chaos and Neglect Dominate U.S. Agenda in Latin America Latin America still has not assumed high priority on the Bush administration's radar, despite previous pledges the president has made. Disorganization and confusion within the White House's Latin America team have left leaders in the region wondering who is in charge ...or what.

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It's a federal offence...even if you don't mean it, to...
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

...threaten to,"KILL the PRESIDENT! Let this pic download..."Give the Pretzel another chance!" http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=02/09/05/4749393 "The following sequence of photos depicts a police horse charge against the protesters and a successful repulsion of this charge -- militant resistance the likes of which I have never seen in the streets of Louisville before." Light a fire under the bushs. Save Camilo Camilo was one of these hundreds arrested and treated brutally over the days of the Republican National Convention in Philadephia, but he had the misfortune of being charged with assaulting the top Philly cop: Police Commissioner Timony. Those who know Camilo believe that it is unlikely that he committed any such assault. MORE ON http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=02/09/05/9648429

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Intelligence failure.President evil.
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/fedagencies/july-dec02/intelligence_9-5.html Global gasbags. "But once the world shifted and we began to be threatened more by very small cells, tightly organized groups of people, tiny handfuls of people that had to be penetrated, technology can't do that job. It takes human intelligence." Yeah right,send some tight assed honeypots down here,Ill spill everything. pResident evil? http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=02/09/05/4749393 Photo's,Louisville Ky.

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Star Chamber for Victorian Inquisition.
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5043711%255E2862,… A NEW elite crime-fighting body will lead the fight against serious and organised crime in a major overhaul of law enforcement being considered by the State Government. A Victorian Crime Commission could be handed coercive powers. This would remove the ability of a person it questions not to answer on the grounds of self-incrimination or legal professional privilege. MORE ON Usually its the 'conservatives' that love laura Norder,now in a race to the bottom on crime to rival that of the race to prostitute the State for Corporate criminals,the Labor party Tweedledum now outbids the Right on crime and even has them calling some of their Nazi like proposals what the are,a direct threat to long standing human and civil rights.At the same time more police powers are being proposed half the drug squad is under investigation for serious and longstandingcorruption.A 2 billion dollar drug case was just aborted due to this inquiry. It is not a great enviroment to go on trial for death threats but there is no evidence,so... http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5042497%255E2862,… I hope to lap up freedom before the year is out.

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Shrubs threat to the www.
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Worlds Worst Weapons...Kenfucky speech.A freudian slip? I don't think so. The Internet on probation (PDF) 'One year after the tragic events in New York and Washington, the Internet can be added to the list of "collateral damage" caused by the general spate of security measures. As a result, basic cyber-freedoms have been cut back. The countries usually criticised for not respecting human rights and freedom of expression ... have encouraged its growth as a tool of state propaganda or economic interests, but at the same time moved to control it and clamp down on criticism, argument and hopes for democracy expressed online ... It is also threatened in Western democracies, where many countries have passed laws, taken measures and adopted practices that are putting the Internet under the ferrule of the security services' ( RSF ) See also this press release, this AP coverage, and this blog entry from Tuesday http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm FBI was trying to send suspect to known torturers.(but not executioners!) ZACARIAS MOUSSAOUI Q - What is France's position on Moussaoui who's just admitted his responsibility in the September 11 attacks? Knowing France's position, what action can France take? Is it going to seek extradition if he's sentenced to death? That's a purely hypothetical question. Q - Yes but still? The matter is in the hands of American judicial officials and comes under the Justice Ministry. Mr. Moussaoui is being tried in the U.S. We have a general position on the death penalty: We oppose it. That holds true for Mr. Moussaoui. The American authorities have been clearly informed of this. Q - A few days ago, Mr. Moussaoui asked to meet with a French diplomat. Has he made any specific requests? Can you tell us about them? What did he ask for? Mr. Moussaoui asked to have the benefit of French consular protection. This was granted and, as we've said, the consulate general in Washington has asked to be able to visit Mr. Moussaoui according to the usual rules for consular protection, as for everyone. I understand that depending on the practical arrangements, the visit could take place this afternoon. Q - What advantages do people have under consular protection? These are stipulated in the 1963 Vienna Convention. Article 34: contacts, checking on the conditions of detention and trial. http://www.info-france-usa.org/news/briefing/us190702.asp Proffr denies bomb threat to airport. The international terminal at Sydney Airport has been evacuated after a bomb threat was received late this afternoon. All roads around the terminal have been closed and up to 400 people have been moved to an outside carpark while the building is searched. Peoples intelligence agencies ramp up online,no place to run,no place to hide... One People's Project Tracks the identities and activities of neo-nazis, fascists, and racists. http://infoshop.org/

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Prohibition follies.
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

DEA Raids WAMM Drug Enforcement Administration agents raided the Wo/Men's Alliance for Medical Marijuana in Santa Cruz earlier this morning. WAMM Director Valerie Corral and Mike Corral have been arrested, and the DEA is obliterating the marijuana crop they have grown for use by Californian medical marijuana patients. Photo. [ Full story here ] http://santacruz.indymedia.org/archive/features/2002/09/2002-09.html#4873 Also U.S. Plans to Fumigate in Colombia Las Vegas Sun By GEORGE GEDDA | ASSOCIATED PRESS | WASHINGTON- The State Department is planning changes in the che... Report: Herbicide Causes Eye Damage Las Vegas Sun By GEORGE GEDDA | ASSOCIATED PRESS | WASHINGTON- A government report released Thursday acknowledged ... AND http://www.narconews.com/

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Candidates for a Necklacing.
by Matthew X 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

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by LAURENT MPETI KABILA 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

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by gianluigi＠euro.net 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

VORRESTI DAVVERO GUADAGNARE CON INTERNET ? Bene, la prima cosa da fare è salvare su disco questa pagina per averla a portata di mano anche se il tuo PC non è connesso a Internet, poi copia tutto in Word o in Blocco Note e stampalo, così lo potrai leggere con più attenzione. Questo Sistema che ti proponiamo è diverso da tutti gli altri, quindi se non ti fidi leggi con attenzione le istruzioni per valutarlo, e quando le avrai comprese ti assicuro che sarà per te IRRESISTIBILE la voglia di partecipare. Hai perso I servizi speciali in onda su Raitre, Canale5 e altre emittenti televisive locali riguardo questo incredibile sistema americano ??? Non importa, perche` questa e` la famosa e-mail dei quali tutti parlano sulle reti televisive di tutto il mondo, non solo italiane. Dovuto alla ormai crescente popolarità di questa e-mail su Internet, alcune emittenti televisive italiane hanno dedicato ultimamente degli speciali sul come e` possibile guadagnare 1.5 - 2 miliardi di lire in 6 settimane, e per di piu` garantito. " Come e` possibile garantire una vincita del genere, insomma, qui si parla di un sacco di quattrini !!!", e` stato il commento di quasi tutti i conduttori dei vari programmi TV e articoli pubblicati. Gia`, come e` possibile ASSICURARE che qualcuno vinca davvero ??? Il risultato e` stato piu` che sorprendente, perfino per I conduttori, che hanno espresso il loro desiderio di partecipare subito !!! In tutti gli speciali, non solo si e` evidenziato e provato che il sistema funziona davvero e assicura la vincita a CHIUNQUE PARTECIPA, ma e` stato anche provato che non ci sono leggi in vigore (in Italia) che impediscono la partecipazione al programma. Creato negli USA qualche anno fa, e dopo aver generato non si sa quanti nuovi miliardari in tutto il mondo, e ricevuto l'attenzione di emittenti televisive e telegiornali in numerosi paesi del mondo, e` finalmente approdato anche in Italia, grazie alla cortese collaborazione di un italiano residente negli USA, che ha finalmente deciso di tradurre questa e- mail in italiano, ed estendere l'opportunita` di diventare miliardari anche a tutti gli italiani che desiderano partecipare !!! E'stato provato che nessuno puo`perdere, nessuno, per il semplice motivo che ci sono migliaia di nuovi giocatori ogni giorno che vogliono partecipare, e aspettano che i fortunati che sono in possesso di questa e-mail (quale sei tu ad esempio), la spediscano anche a loro. ECCO COME FUNZIONA.....!!!!! I partecipanti provengono da tutto il mondo, Australia, Canada, Inghilterra, Germania, Nuova Zelanda (paesi che in genere sono di madrelingua inglese, o lo parlano come seconda lingua), ma il 92% di essi sono agguerriti americani, entusiasmati dai telegiornali degli USA che cercano di dare una spiegazione a questa incredibile ondata di nuovi miliardari, che solo nel secondo semestre del 2001 ha contato piu` di 928.000 fortunati soltanto negli USA. La ragione di questo successo è semplice: con il solo investimento di $25 dollari (Euro 25) si entra in un giro mondiale, inviando e- mail gratuitamente a tutti quelli che vogliono partecipare e che sono in trepida attesa di farlo. Si, perché la chiave è proprio ricevere questa e-mail (che e` stata finalmente tradotta da un gentile italiano residente negli USA per il beneficio di tutti i giocatori italiani). Se non si riceve la e-mail non si accede al sistema e si è tagliati fuori. Sei probabilmente uno dei primi italiani a ricevere questa e- mail, visto che e` stata tradotta soltanto un mese fa. Ci sono milioni di persone in tutta Italia e in tutto il mondo che sono ansiosi di ricevere questa e-mail da te. Una volta che inserisci il tuo nome, indirizzo e indirizzo e-mail e` fatta, sei nel sistema e ci resterai fino a quando deciderai che ne hai abbastanza di tutti quei soldi !!! I partecipanti al giorno d'oggi sono stimati attorno ai 25 milioni, e crescono di giorno in giorno. Poiche` bisogna aspettare il proprio turno prima di rientrare in un nuovo giro (dalla 5 alla 1 posizione) chi esce (con un guadagno stimato in media fra 1.5 e 2 miliardi di lire) rientra di nuovo rispondendo ad un'altra e-mail che ha ricevuto nel frattempo. Il risultato: un sistema che non ha mai fine, tenuto in piedi dai soliti giocatori e in piu` da tutti quelli che si uniscono ogni giorno, incrementando il massiccio scambio di denaro. Un giro di centinaia di miliardi al giorno, spediti in piccole banconote da $5 dollari ciascuna. Un programma che, GRAZIE AD INTERNET, non ha mai fine, poiche` i partecipanti entrano ed escono continuamente (non contando i nuovi partecipanti che si uniscono ogni giorno) investendo ogni volta la piccola somma di 25 dollari, e intascando i miliardi spettanti ad ogni giro !!! Ovviamente si può uscire quando si vuole, non c'è nessun obbligo, ma perchè uscire quando si è parte di un club di miliardari ??? Gli USA stimano che almeno 927.900 di quei 928.000 nuovi miliardari sono già rientrati, centuplicando il numero di miliardari nei prossimi 6 mesi !!! La differenza fra i vecchi sistemi multi-livello e questo e` molto semplice: 1: l' investimento è decisamente minimo. 2: nessuna perdita di tempo nel convincere qualcuno a partecipare. 3: la vincita è rapida. 4: non c'e` nessuna organizzazione dietro questo semplice ma efficace sistema. I soli giocatori lo tengono in piedi l'intero sistema. Non c'è nessuna percentuale da pagare. I soldi vengono scambiati e spediti direttamente alle case dei singoli giocatori. 5: L'opportunità di ricevere informazioni gratis per incrementare e gestire le proprie vincite, quali i 5 "reports" che contengono informazioni utilissime, come scaricare GRATIS da Internet software elaborati e costosi completamente GRATIS per gestire, ricercare, scaricare e spedire e-mail a piu` di 10.000.000 di indirizzi (Avalanche, NetTron, DirectMail, ecc.), più tante altre utilissime informazioni sul come incrementare le vincite con il sistema, completamente GRATIS !!! Questo e` il segreto di MLM American System: la vincita e` 200% assicurata !!! Non si puo` perdere, e` impossibile !!! MLM American System e` stato definito "IL GENERATORE DI BENESSERE DEL XXI SECOLO !!!". E tu ??? Sei pronto ad unirti al club di miliardari ??? Il principio è quasi simile a quello utopico del "se ognuno dei 5 miliardi di persone oggi esistente sulla terra spedisse 1 dollaro a tutti gli altri, vivremmo in un mondo di miliardari". Il fatto e` che non si può costringere qualcuno a versare dei soldi ad un altro individuo. Ecco che il concetto di MLM entra in gioco: ci vuole un club di giocatori intenzionati a scambiarsi ogni 6 settimane 5 dollari a testa. Questo e` il semplice segreto di un sistema che non ha eguali in tutto il mondo: MLM American System. MLM E' UN CLUB DI ONESTE PERSONE COMUNI COME TE che hanno tutto l'interesse di tenere in piedi un sistema che genera benessere per tutti. LE SEGUENTI SONO ISTRUZIONI FONDAMENTALI DI CUI HAI BISOGNO: POICHÈ IL CONTENUTO DI QUESTA E-MAIL È TROPPO PREZIOSO, SE NON LO HAI ANCORA FATTO STAMPA UNA COPIA DI QUESTA E-MAIL ADESSO E SALVALA SU UN CD O FLOPPY DISK, NEL QUALCASO TU ABBIA PROBLEMI CON IL TUO COMPUTER. PRIMA COSA DA FARE : ORDINARE I REPORTS ===== COME ORDINARE I 5 "REPORTS" DALLA LISTA CHE SEGUE ===== Che cos'e` un "report" ??? Un report non e` altro che una serie di informazioni utilissime su come scaricare assolutamente gratis costosi software da Internet (che potranno risultare di grande aiuto nella gestione e spedizione ad alta velocita` di e-mail) gestire patrimoni ecc., accuratamente tradotti in italiano. Per ogni report spedisci 5 Euro se sei in Europa se no 5 dollari americani dal piu` vicino ufficio postale o alla tua banca. Ci sono stati giocatori che, per ragioni sconosciute, hanno spedito i contanti nella valuta del loro paese. Nel caso tu debba spedire a giocatori stranieri è consigliabile utilizzare il dollaro americano perchè stato scelto e adottato sin dall'inizio del sistema, ed ha funzionato alla perfezione per ormai 2 anni, non possiamo garantire il fatto che, se spedirai banconote in diverse valute, saranno accettate. I gicatori del sistema, specialmente stranieri, che si aspettano di ricevere dollari americani, non accetteranno altre valute, perche` non conoscono il cambio corrente, e probabilmente rispediranno indietro le tue lettere. Per qualsiasi ragione, non spedire MAI moneta, solo banconote, altrimenti dovrai pagare una tariffa postale maggiore, dovuta al peso. PER EVITARE CHE I SOLDI SPEDITI VENGANO INTERCETTATI E RUBATI, DA DUE ANNI A QUESTA PARTE, SI E' ADOTTATO IL SISTEMA DI INSERIRE LA BANCONOTA TRA DUE FOGLI A4 PIEGATI PIU' VOLTE FINO A COPRIRE INTERAMENTE LA BANCONOTA. FAI LA PROVA CONTRO LUCE AVVICINANDO LA BUSTA AD UNA LAMPADA DA TAVOLO. FALLO CON CURA SE NO QUALCUNO RUBERA' I TUOI SOLDI....... ==IMPORTANTE== Su uno dei due fogli, scrivi in stampatello (meglio se stampato al computer) a caratteri chiari e leggibili, il nome e il numero del report che stai ordinando, il tuo indirizzo e-mail, e il tuo nome e indirizzo postale. Quindi: per ogni report spedisci una banconota del valore di 5 EURO o dollari incartata fra DUE fogli di carta formato A4, il nome e numero di report richiesto, il tuo indirizzo e-mail, il tuo nome e indirizzo postale. Se non vuoi far apparire il tuo nome e indirizzo sulla lista (anonimato), puoi usare una casella postale come indirizzo, e il nome di una compagnia al posto del tuo nome e cognome (ad esempio: XYZ Servizi, Casella Postale 12345, Roma, Italy). Ricorda di scrivere il tuo indirizzo (mittente) sulla busta, nel caso in cui ci siano difficolta` postali. Quando ordini i report, devi ordinare tutti i 5 report, perchè hai bisogno di "consegnarli" tramite e-mail alle persone che li richiederanno da te, pagandoti 5 Euro/Dollari per ognuno di essi (anche se sono gia` in possesso di essi, nel caso di giocatori che rientrano, il sistema richiede il pagamento di 5 Euro/Dollari in cambio di qualcosa). Quando ricevi i 5 report in 5 differenti e-mail, salva ogni report su un floppy disk o CD, affinchè niente vada perso. Se li perdi, non puoi continuare nel sistema, poiche` non hai niente da "consegnare" agli altri giocatori. Il costo totale del tuo investimento e`: 5 x 5 Euro/Dollari = 25 Euro o dollari, una sciocchezza paragonata a quello che riceverai !!! Nel giro di pochi giorni riceverai, come detto, le 5 e-mail con i 5 differenti report in italiano. Mentre stai aspettando I 5 report (numero 1, 2, 3, 4 e 5), prendi questa e-mail, che hai precedentemente salvato nel tuo computer, e fai quanto segue: 1. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 5. Questa persona ha finito il suo turno e stara` contando il suo guadagno; 2. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 4 e spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 5; 3. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 3 e spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 4; 4. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 2 e spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 3; 5. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 1 e spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 2; 6. inserisci il tuo nome e indirizzo accanto al report numero 1. Fatto, ora sei ufficialmente nel sistema. Fai attenzione nel ricopiare tutti gli indirizzi: controlla sempre che tutti i nomi e gli indirizzi siano scritti in maniera corretta (specialmente nel caso di giocatori stranieri). Dopo cio`, salva la nuova e-mail nel tuo computer, e fai anche una copia e salvala su un floppy disk o CD. NON FARE ASOLUTAMENTE ALTRE MODIFICHE. Il prossimo passo e` quello di spedire le e-mail. ESEMPIO 1: Ok, ora vediamo come funziona. Supponiamo che spedisci 20 e-mail a 20 persone. Pur essendo tutti in attesa di questa e-mail, soltanto 10 di loro trovano il tempo di ordinare il report numero 1 da te. 2: Quelle 10 persone spediscono a loro volta 20 e-mail a testa, per un totale di 200 e-mail. Di nuovo, pur essendo tutti in attesa di ricevere questa e-mail ed intascare i loro miliardi, soltanto la meta` di loro, 100 persone, ha il tempo di ordinare il report numero 2. 3: Quelle 100 persone spediscono a loro volta 20 e-mail a testa, per un totale di 2000 e-mail. Stessa storia, solo 1000 di loro trova il tempo di ordinare il report numero 3. 4: Quelle 1000 persone spediscono 20 e-mail ciascuno, per un totale di 20.000 e-mail. Solo 10.000 di loro ordina il report numero 4. 5: Quelle 10.000 persone spediscono 20 e-mail a testa, per un totale di 200.000 e-mail. Solo la meta` di loro ordina il report numero 5. Ora, un po' di matematica. Il totale della vincita in questo caso, dove non si ha il pieno potenziale di giocatori, poiche` si presume che soltanto la meta` della meta` della meta`, ecc. Partecipi, e` il seguente: Per il report numero 1: 10 richieste = 10 x 5 dollari = 50 dollari = 100.000 lire Per il report numero 2: 100 richieste = 100 x 5 dollari = 500 dollari = 1.000.000 lire Per il report numero 3: 1.000 richieste = 1.000 x 5 dollari = 5.000 dollari = 10.000.000 lire Per il report numero 4: 10.000 richieste = 10.000 x 5 dollari = 50.000 $ = 100.000.000 £ Per il report numero 5: 100.000 richieste = 100.000 x 5 $ = 500.000 $ = 1.000.000.000 lire Totale: 50 + 500 + 5.000 + 50.000 + 500.000 = 555.550 $ pari a 1.111.100.000 di lire !!!! Questo è il minimo che ognuno vincerà poichè è stato ormai sperimentato e testato negli anni scorsi: ma se ognuno spedisce piu` di 20 e-mail, e cosi` gli altri partecipanti, la vincita avrà proporzioni stratosferiche che nemmeno potete immaginarvi. Questo dipende da te, se hai il tempo e la voglia di spedire e-mail a persone che conosci, o se trovi indirizzi e-mail su vari siti web gratuiti: non farai altro che incrementare il valore della tua vincita. Ecco perchè possiamo parlare di una vincita "facile", poche` l'unica cosa da fare e`spedire la e-mail con il prorio nome vicino al report numero 1. Se ci pensate, è proprio un gioco da ragazzi !!! Ma se volete ambire ad una vincita incredibile avete la possibilità di farlo, E dipende tutto da voi. ENTRA OGGI STESSO NEL SISTEMA, CORRI SUBITO A PREPARARE LE 5 BUSTE E BUON GUADAGNO!!! ========== LA TUA LISTA DEI REPORTS IN ITALIANO ========== ORDINA ADESSO UNA COPIA PER OGNI REPORT: REPORT NUMERO 1 : "Il nuovo, gratuito e-mail software AGM - Completo" Ordina il report numero 1 da: Sandro Russo Via Venezuela , 23 92100 AGRIGENTO _____________________________________________________________________ REPORT NUMERO 2 : "Il completo setup di un nuovo, veloce e gratuito Internet Provider" Italiano Ordina il report numero 2 da: C. Marenchino Corso Langhe, 25 12051 ALBA (CN) ______________________________________________________________________ REPORT NUMERO 3 : "Che cos'è una 'Circolare Viaggiante' - Teoria, prassi, necessità della Comunicazione Orizzontale" innovativo contributo di Alessandro D'Agostini su come diffondere in modo efficace informazioni libere con la "mlm comunication" Italiano Ordina il report numero 3 da: F. Musco Via Griffi, 6 21100 VARESE ______________________________________________________________________ REPORT NUMERO 4 : "E-mail Adress Extract" Ordina il report numero 4 da: Adami Paolo via verdi, 5 26020 Acquanegra CR ______________________________________________________________________ REPORT NUMERO 5 : "Guida pratica al successo con Multilevel Italian System & Manuale in Italiano su come usare al meglio il nuovo, gratuito e-mail software AGM e E-mail Adress Extract" Ordina il report numero 5 da: Antonio Masia Vico Nocelle 74A 80136 Napoli NA ______________________________________________________________________ $$$$$$$$$$ ISTRUZIONI UTILI PER IL TUO SUCCESSO $$$$$$$$$$ Appena ricevi questa e-mail, se intendi partecipare, segui le istruzioni relative all'inserimento del tuo nome, che abbiamo spiegato alcuni paragrafi piu` sopra. Comincia a fare un elenco delle persone alle quali intendi spedire questa e-mail. Fatto cio` comincia pure a spedirle, mentre aspetti di ricevere i 5 report. Questo ti da il vantaggio nei confronti di tutti quelli che ti richiederanno i 5 report (e saranno molti !!!). Una volta che ricevi 10 richieste per il report numero 1, riceverai matematicamente almeno 100 richieste per il report numero 2. Dopo quello hai la scelta di rilassarti e tornare a fare quello che facevi prima, poichè sei entrato nel "vortice" del sistema. Oppure, come spiegato poco sopra, puoi continuare a spedire e-mail a tutti quelli che te lo richiederanno, incrementando notevolmente la tua vincita finale. Dipende solo da quanto denaro hai bisogno !!! Puoi renderti conto di quanti soldi stai accumulando dal numero di richieste che ti perverranno.Ricorda, senza e-mail non accedi al sistema. Anche se hai già vinto una volta, e hai "comprato" i 5 report, questo non ti da il diritto di scavalcare gli altri giocatori. Devi ricevere una e-mail da uno dei giocatori, e ripetere tutti i passi, uno per uno, dall'inizio. Questa e` l'unica regola imposta dal sistema, per il beneficio di tutti i giocatori onesti. Se hai già vinto una volta, è anche merito della loro onestà. Un in bocca al lupo, e buona vincita miliardaria a tutti !!!! Nota originale dell'autore, ovvero colui che ha inventato il sistema piu` incredibile del mondo. "Se avete qualsiasi perplessità riguardo la legalità di questo sistema, si prega di contattare: the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, District of Columbia, U.S.A.". Ti informiamo che questo non è uno spamming ai sensi della legge 675/96. Se Ti è arrivata questa lettera è perché il tuo indirizzo di posta elettronica è stato acquisito da fonti pubblicamente consultabili. Da noi NON riceverai altre comunicazioni. Il Tuo account sarà eliminato dal nostro database. (*) N. B. Partecipando e mandando i 5 euro acquisirai l'esclusivo diritto di partecipare al gioco. Infatti i Report che riceverai ti saranno inviati gratis! Un motivo in più per partecipare, cominciare a vincere, a guadagnare, a conoscere nuovi amici e a divertirsi con "il generatore di benessere del terzo millennio", Multilevel Italian System. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: cypheri
by cypheri 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

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The SSA in Peace and War
by Duncan Frissell 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

>From Syracuse's invaluable Transactional Records Clearing House site: The SSA in Peace and War The federal agency with the most international terrorism referrals in April was a surprisethe Social Security Administration. It recommended 78 individuals be indicted for such crimes, compared with only 39 referrals during the month from the FBI. The Department of Transportation was third with 23 new referrals, followed by the INS and Customs. The FBI was the source of most referrals for domestic terrorism. See table. We warned you that the Social Security Administration would become an instrument of totalitarian control back in 1935 when it was created. But you didn't listen -- Posted by Duncan Frissell to The Technoptimist at 9/5/2002 2:52:44 PM Powered by Blogger Pro

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by Sylvia Carmody 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

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Re: no ICs in nukes...
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

"Major Variola (ret)" <mv(a)cdc.gov> writes: > there are no chips in nukes (p 8) There are no ICs in *safety-critical* areas (they use discrete components and mechanical interlocks). An earlier slide is quite clear that there are ICs in there. Peter.

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Create a PAYCHECK with your computer -
by Jim＠inet.com 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

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Anarchist root canal
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=02/09/01/7282205 All over the (info) shop,a hellishly long thread re anarchist federation. "...Up to now, all anarchist strategies have failed if we are determining their success as achieving an anarchist social revolution that completely wipes out the state and capitalism forever across the globe..." Target American interests and extort, kidnap and murder American citizens,please.

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Re: Lonely? 3205tUf-7
by bstark2018i50＠earthlink.net 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

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Minister in charge of information former spy.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

"Giving the task of convincing Polish citizens about European Integration to a person who not so long ago was in the secret service, fighting against institutions of the Free World brings discredit not only to the idea of country's integration but hits Poland's prestige abroad." --The Law and Justice party (PiS), on the confession by the Polish minister in charge of information that he was formerly a member of the communist spy service Who's watching you? A surveillance society Computer databases already have a lot on us: Credit cards keep track of airline ticket purchases and car rentals. Supermarket discount programs know our eating habits. Libraries track books checked out. Schools record our grades and enrollment....( CNN, 4 Sep 02) Pay day on live TV for the first of Colombia's informants The first people in Colombia to win rewards for informing on rebels appeared on live television yesterday, wearing balaclavas and baggy clothes to hide their identities, to receive bundles of cash.....( The Telegraph, 4 Sep 02) The FBI and Albert Einstein A 22-year campaign of spying and slander by the FBI against Albert Einstein is traced in this recently published book.....( World Socialist Website, 3 Sep 02) China Sea spy ship to yield its secrets later this month Japan says it expects to raise a suspected North Korean spy ship from the bottom of the East China Sea as early as September 11.....( ABC, 3 Sep 02) MORE ON http://www.cicentre.com/

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Ya Basta from australia.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

NO MORE!! The continuing death of thousands of animals as a result of the live sheep and cattle trade, is an indictment on a barbaric practice that caters to religious traditions that evolved in another millennium. To subject animals to the suffering, that long cramped trips across the ocean causes, is not justifiable on any grounds, let alone religious grounds. To pander to these religious observances, is an indictment on both those who provide the animals for live export, and those who demand that the animals are not slaughtered in Australia. There is not one reason that can justify this cruel export industry. Animals can and are slaughtered in Australia under strict Halal conditions. Slaughterhouses are built that face Mecca and slaughter men can and do kill animals in the prescribed manner in Australia, to suit the religious demands of those people who follow the Muslim faith. To pander to those who demand live animals, is unjust, cruel, barbaric and cannot be justified, irrespective of the profits this trade generates. A halt should be placed on the trade today. The RSPCA should unilaterally remove its support for this disgusting trade. All those corporations who are making money as a result of this trade should be subjected to a consumer boycott today. Everybody involved in the trade, from the farmers, to the transport companies, to the shipping concerns, should be identified. Anybody who is involved in any aspect of this unnecessary trade, should be the focus of a community organised consumer boycott. The sooner shareholders and individual owners of these corporations, realise that their participation in this trade will erode their bottom line, the sooner this cruel business will be stopped. RIGHT ROYAL SKULLDUGGERY Last weekend marked the fifth anniversary in what can be described as the House of Windsor's luckiest break - the death in a car accident in Paris, of Diana Spencer, a woman who had long ago outlived her usefulness to the British Royal family. It's interesting to note that the House of Windsor has not held any Public event to mark the fifth anniversary of the death of the future monarch's mother. Basking in the glory of her Golden Jubilee celebrations, the last thing Queen Elizabeth II, the Queen of Australia would want, is a public rival for the affection of her loyal subjects. Diana Spencer's untimely death, and the public grieving which accompanied her death, shocked the House of Windsor to its foundations. The outpouring of public grief was in a large part an indication of the public's disquiet about how a 19 year old woman had been treated by the British Royal Family, after she had done her duty and delivered the heirs that the British Royal Family desperately needed, to keep the legion of members of the House of Windsor on the public payroll. If Diana Spencer had lived, she could have dimmed the star of Her Right Royal Highness, Queen Elizabeth The Second. No wonder the retinue of media spin doctors that are paid by the public purse who work for the House of Windsor, have worked overtime, to smooth the feathers of a pliant media that has been blinded to the small-mindedness, bigotry and downright jealousy displayed by the British Royal Family by the Jubilee celebrations. The only good thing about the fifth anniversary of Diana Spencer's death is that people have not forgotten the myopic self-serving behaviour of the British Royal Family. A group, that to the last man and woman, has shown, and continues to show a callous disregard for their tawdry role, in the sad life of a woman who long before her sudden unexpected death, had outlived her usefulness to the British Monarchy. ANARCHIST QUESTION AND ANSWER Q. What role would euthanasia play in an anarchist society? A. The right to a gentle and painless death euthanasia is a right that¹s inherent within a society that recognises that the individual has the ultimate right over their own life and death. As far as terminal illnesses and illnesses that are accompanied by unremitting pain that cannot be treated, the decision is very simple. Euthanasia becomes a debating point within an anarchist society if community expectations about euthanasia push people in particular situations to consider ending their own lives. Individuals with terminal and chronic illnesses have first and foremost the right to demand support from society. Any discussion about euthanasia must originate from the person concerned, not from society. In a society where euthanasia is a right, it¹s possible that an expectation could arise that if an individual has a terminal or chronic illness they should consider euthanasia so they are not a burden on society. The development of community expectations about who should or shouldn¹t end their own life can and will pressure people into making decisions they may not want to make, so they are not a burden on the community. The other problem that faces a community where euthanasia is an inherent part of that community is do people who don¹t have a terminal or chronic illness have the right to euthanasia. The two age groups within a community that commit suicide are normally the young and the old. Suicide is often linked to a psychiatric disorder. Should people with a psychiatric disorder have the right to choose death over life? There seems to be a double standard among some anarchists about psychical and psychiatric illnesses. Some anarchists think psychiatric illnesses are illnesses that don¹t need to be treated. My experience is that once anarchists are confronted with friends or associates who develop psychiatric illnesses, they¹re keen to use what treatments are available to help resolve the problem. The problem of psychiatric illness raises important questions about who has and hasn¹t the right to demand euthanasia in an anarchist society. Most people who attempt to commit suicide with psychiatric illnesses and are treated and survive, lead long and productive lives. As up to one in five persons in any community considers suicide as a way out of a difficult emotional situation, should all these people have access to a peaceful and painful death? What at first seemed a very simple proposal, let the individual decide, is in reality a very difficult concept. Euthanasia, like every other human decision, is much more difficult than it at first seems. My own belief is that people who have chronic and debilitating illnesses or terminal illnesses who are not suffering depression or a psychiatric illness and those individuals who have psychiatric illnesses that do not respond to treatment who want to end their own lives, should have access to euthanasia. Euthanasia should be a choice that should be exercised only by those individuals who have the intellectual, emotional and psychological capacity to make that choice. Anything else would be community sanctioned murder. ACTION BOX "CELEBRATING OUR VICTORIES" How may times have you been involved in a successful struggle and been surprised at how your contribution to that struggle has been ignored or downplayed? I think more times than you care to remember. I¹ve been amazed at how many times the very people in authority who have lost a struggle attempt to claim credit for the outcome. We¹re told that "they never intended to carry out their proposal" or that what we are witnessing "is democracy in action." It¹s just as important we celebrate our victories than it is to learn from our losses. It¹s important we claim our victories publicly. Every time we claim and celebrate our victories, we destroy the idea that "you can¹t fight city hall". Every time we achieve our aims we give hope and courage to other people who are involved in local, regional, national and international struggles. Every time we allow the very institutions we fought against to claim victory, we are doing ourselves and everybody who is involved in struggles, a disservice. Don¹t be bashful about blowing your own trumpet, if you don¹t do it, nobody else will. As we all know, success breeds success. Victory in one struggle can give impetus to another struggle. Knowing that the institutions, bureaucracies and corporations that we are challenging can be confronted and defeated, has a positive effect on other people involved in disputes and campaigns against authority. It¹s important we try to build on the success we have had and continue to have. Recording how a particular victory was achieved can help other groups who are involved or who want to become involved in other struggles. The energy that¹s generated from celebrating a victory helps to recharge people¹s batteries for the next struggle. Always inform the media about your success. The more people who know that you took on "city hall" and won, the greater the reputation of the group you¹re involved in, will grow. More importantly, the destruction of the myth that the government or a major corporation is invincible, places government and corporations under increasing pressure from people and organisations that are struggling or want to become involved in the struggle for both reform and radical social change. AUSTRALIAN RADICAL HISTORY THE EUREKA SERIES NO. 31 "TURNING THE TABLES" The acquittal of the 13 defendants charged with High Treason, turned the tables on Hotham and his scurvy crew. Although Hotham took the blame for the judicial farce, the Attorney-General William Stawell was ultimately responsible for this whole sorry saga. While men and women who were involved in the Eureka stockade are largely forgotten, a Victorian regional town Stawell¹ still bears the Attorney-General¹s name and Australia¹s most prestigious and well know professional footrace "The Stawell Gift", honours the memory of the man who engineered the butchery which occurred at Ballarat on December the 3rd 1854. Stawell not only goaded the diggers into taking up arms and organised the military response, he was also responsible for attempting to pervert "the course of justice" by manipulating the jury system and by encouraging the virtual army of spies he had working for his department, to perjure themselves at the trials of the 13 accused. Hotham paid the ultimate price for his rigidity and his role in the Eureka rebellion. Lord John Russell from the London Colonial Office, scolded Hotham for not following his advice and charging the 13 with High Treason. The London Colonial Office did not believe a local jury would convict the men of the charge. Broken in health, Hotham had been forced by November 1855 to send his resignation to the Colonial Office. Hotham died on the 31st December 1855 as a result of a "chill", some say a "broken heart". The Legislative Council was asked by John Pascoe Fawkner, one of Melbourne¹s founders, to set aside a thousand pounds (a colossal sum in 1856) to build a monument to Sir Charles Hotham. Peter Lalor the Eureka stockade leader, had been elected to the Legislative Council, opposed the motion stating that "Hotham had a sufficient monument in the graves of those slain at Ballarat". The motion was passed and a thousand pounds was set aside to build a monument in Hotham¹s memory. Recommended Reading:- MASSACRE AT EUREKA The Untold Story - Bob O¹Brien 1992 - Sovereign Hill Museums Association Edition 1998 ISBN 0909874190 (176 pages), EUREKA John Molony 1984 Melbourne University Press Edition 2001 ISBN 0522849628. Both these books are available or can be ordered through your local bookshop. They can also be loaned from your local library. BOOK REVIEW "LOOKING BACK AFTER TWENTY YEARS OF JAIL!" Questions and Answers on the Spanish Anarchist Resistance. - Miguel GARCIA, Kate Sharpley Library 2002, 1ST Published by Simion circa 1970. ISBN 187360503X "Dar la vida par la vida (Give a life for life) Miguel Garcia Garcia (1908-1981) The Kate Sharpley Library collective has done the anarchist world a favour by publishing this 16 page "memorial booklet" which examines the life of Miguel GARCIA. One of the best kept secrets in both the anarchist and non anarchist world is the anarchist resistance to France¹s dictatorial rule after the failure of the Spanish revolution in 1939. "He was, as he himself ruefully admitted, the embodiment of a lost history of anarchism part of a resistance movement, even now little know or understood by many". Miguel Garcia was a fighter in Barcelona during the July days of 1936, he fought on the Aragon Front and outside Madrid with the anarchist militias. After the failure of the Spanish revolution, Garcia who had been trained by the British as a forger, helped to smuggle refugees from France back to Spain. He was arrested in Spain by French soldiers in 1949, Miguel was initially sentenced to death but his sentence was commuted to 30 years imprisonment, he was released in 1969 and immigrated to England at the invitation of Stuart Christie. Miguel Garcia spent the rest of his life working tirelessly to help imprisoned militants. Garcia was the International Secretary of the newly reformed Anarchist Black Cross, an anarchist prisoner aide organisation. Kate Sharpley¹s "memorial booklet" on Miguel Garcia includes an interview with Garcia first published by Simion Press in the early 1970¹s and a series of previously unpublished letters sent to London newspapers and journals. The interview gives an all too brief insight into how the resistance against the Franco regime was organised and the type of activities they were involved in before Franco¹s death. The interview "explains the motivation and methods of the resistance". Miguel Garcia¹s story opens the page on the libertarian resistance in Franco¹s Spain, an era that was dismissed by liberals, the international media and governments as work of "terrorists". "But to the world, the Resistance had become criminals, for Franco made the laws, even if, when dealing with political opponents he chose to break the laws established by the constitution; and the world still regards us as criminals" Miguel GARCIA Other books available from the Kate Sharpley Library on the libertarian resistance in Franco¹s Spain include: Miguel Garcia¹s Story Miguel Garcia Memorial Committee / Genfuegos Press 1982, Antonio Tellez The Anarchist Resistance to Franco 1996, Antonio Tellez Sebate, Guerilla Extraordinary 1998, Kate Sharpey Library, BM Hurricane, LONDON WCIN 3XX, UNITED KINGDOM, www.katesharpleylibrary.org. Thanks to Kate Sharpley Library for the Review Copy of "Looking Back After Twenty years in Jail" Miguel GARCIA. PERSONAL OBSERVATION It¹s interesting how technological innovations can change how we think, what we do and the very perception of what is considered to be normal behaviour. The single most important personal technological innovation that has had a profound impact in both the industrial world and the non industrialised world in the last decade has been the mobile phone. The minimal infrastructure that¹s required to set up a mobile network has allowed the East Timorese to overcome the devastation caused by the Indonesian Army and Indonesian backed militias much more quickly than was expected. Mobile phones have changed the way we communicate with each other, both at a personal and business level. It¹s also become a very important tool in that it helps activists conduct demonstrations, occupations and even revolutions. It allows participants to communicate with each other in real time and vary strategies used to meet real time needs. I¹m not denying that there are problems, privacy, auditory pollution and the risk of developing brain tumors are a few of the problems associated with mobile phone users. Interestingly the mobile phone¹s greatest contribution to life has little to do with communication and everything to do with perception. The mobile phone has changed the way we view human behaviour. If ten years ago you were walking down the street and began talking to yourself, you¹d have been given a wide berth. Today it¹s normal, on any day at anytime people are spilling their guts anywhere and everywhere. We¹ve regaled with the most intimate details of people¹s lives. Inadvertently we become unwilling spectators in a game that draws complete strangers in our orbit. I remember one day some time ago, some fool was blurbering into thin air with his estranged girlfriend, everybody around him broke into spontaneous applause when she told him to grow up and get a life. He became indigent when he realised that he had made his private life into a tedious and boring public spectacle. There¹s nothing worse than being forced to listen to other people¹s problems. Driving, it is common to see some idiot jabbering into the ether, laughing and carrying on all by themselves. Less than a decade ago such behaviour would have been rewarded with a visit by smiling folk dressed in white carrying straight jackets, today it¹s seen as normal. Ten years down the track, I will still find it a little disconcerting to see people talking to themselves on the streets, in cars and everywhere I go. STOP PRESS REALLY? Two years after I began writing in the Anarchist Age Weekly Review that the Federal government was intent on destroying bulk billing, the corporate and State run media have begun to respond to the threat. As more and more general practices begin to feel the current harsh commercial reality, many are beginning to abandon bulk billing. Medicare was introduced in 1972 by the Whitlam Labor government to ensure that every Australian, irrespective of income, had access to medical care outside of a public hospital setting. Bulk billing was welcomed by the more community minded elements of the medical profession as well as the general public, especially people with large families, those on social security benefits and working people on limited incomes. For the first time in the history of this country, they had access to affordable medical care. Over the past decade, the Howard government has gone out of its way to undermine the public hospital sector and destroy bulk billing. They have diverted three billion dollars that should have gone to the public hospital system to the private health insurance industry. They have also squeezed general practitioners by not keeping the medicare rebate in line with inflation. As cuts escalate, general practitioners have been forced to selectively bulk bill and in some cases abandon billing completely. Those who suffer are not those who can afford private health insurance or those who can pay the gap between the medicare rebate and the new fees charged by general practitioners. They are the poor, working people, the disadvantaged and people on social security benefits, the very people the medicare system was established to help. Increasing gaps between the medicare rebate and the cost of using general practitioners are driving people to use overcrowded public hospital Accident and Emergency departments as their port of call. The swamping of Accident and Emergency departments by non urgent cases has profound negative implications for a public hospital sector that is already struggling to cope. General practitioners and the people they service have been asked to bear the brunt of the government¹s attack on the medicare system and bulk billing. They will not be able to withstand this onslaught unless individuals, organisations and local health authorities and State governments put pressure on the Howard government to adequately fund medicare. Until Australians become involved in campaigns to defend and extend medicare and bulk billing, the horror stories about the health care system that have become an everyday news item will continue to occur with increasing frequency. Joseph TOSCANO/LibertarianWorkers for a Self-Managed Society. http://www.ainfos.ca/ainfos12867.html

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Let us fight-for your rate
by joejones3345＠studby.ntnu.no 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

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Re: all your greeks are belong to us
by Bill Stewart 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 12:53 PM 09/04/2002 -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote: >I'm not sure which is more funny - this being a hoax or not. Appears not to be, at least if you can believe "The Register". I can't tell if "operation of games", as defined under Greek law, refers to anybody playing the game, or is more technically defined as "running a business that provides game-playing opportunities to customers", or if the term "gaming" is the more general term for playing games or is a euphemism for "gambling", as it is in the US gaming industry. Foosball appears to still be legal, if nobody bets on it, but pinball machines are usually electromechanical so they're banned. And, of course, "Zero Wing", the source of "All your base are belong to us" is obviously banned. It's either time to start mailing those poor oppressed Greeks copies of nethack and URLs for file:\\windows\System32\sol.exe or else to use this as an excuse to ban Microsoft from Greece, whichever is a sillier opportunity to insult the politicians. Of course, there are other places with stupid laws as well; I've heard that in parts of the US, cannabis plants aren't allowed to grow, but I've seen no evidence that Nature pays attention :-) >http://www.netcafe.gr/ >http://www.netcafe.gr/files/law.txt > >LAW NUMBER 3037 - 30 July 2002 >GAMING PROHIBITION > >The President of Greek Republic >We issue the following law which was voted by the Greek Parliament >--------------------- >Article 1 >Game categories >--------------------- >According to notion of the commands of the current law: >a. Mechanical games are those, that depend on one's muscle force. >b. Electrical games are those, that depend on electrical mechanisms. >c. Electromechanical games are those that depend on electrical mechanisms and >the use of one's muscle force. >d. Electronic games are those, that depend on both electrical-electronic >mechanisms and software. >e. Entertainment technical games are those, whose result depends >exclusively on >the ability and skill of the player, and are used solely for entertainment. > >The category (e) also includes all card games which had been characterised as >"technical" games, according to the statement of law F.E.K A21. >---------------------------------------------- >Article 2 >Game prohibition >---------------------------------------------- >1. Operation and installation of any game of type (b), (c) and (d) of Article >1, including computer games, placed in public places such as hotels, >cafeterias, organization halls and in any other public or private place, is >prohibited. > >2. Operation of games of type (e) is allowed in devices of type (a). Regarding >these games, it is prohibited to place bets. Such bets will attract penalties >described in Articles 4 and 5. > ------------------------- > Article 3 > Internet cafes >-------------------------- >The prohibition of using computers described in Article 2 does not affect >internet cafes, as long as the computers are not used for any gaming >activities. > >To be able to run an Internet cafe, a special permit is required from the >municipal or the state where the company is based) and from its starting point >(port) if it is a boat based company. According to the first application of >this measure, the company should be equipped with this permit in three months >from the issue date of this law.

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"Vigilantes,"collateral damage" in Spam wars au
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/security/story/0,2000024985,20267974,00.htm Govt sites blocked cant be all bad. Wireless broadband for greater Sydney? http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/communications/story/0,2000024993,20267945… Apster Beta in reigon? First, we all know that these computer systems come out, and has there ever been one that was perfect? I don't think so. That's why you have betas. Why would someone who is breaking the law pay any attention to the law? It's so difficult to catch 'em. You just wonder what the effect would be. Good people who obey laws probably don't send out a whole lot of APster bets. Bad people who like to rip people up probably won't pay a lot of attention to the law, since they'll do it anyway.

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Due to privacy legislation,Homeland Gestapo will keep names of the dissapeared secret.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Thats what they do down here with reffugees anyway... Long article,worth a look... http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=2617 Got FOI? "Openness in government is under assault throughout the United States--at every level. Can the news media, reluctant combatants thus far, mount a successful counterattack?

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April 1 in Sept. Greek Fucking.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Keep forecasting collapse of Govts,you'll never go wrong. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26939.html Carnivore paper tiger? http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,54935,00.html Fly by Night Homeland security is apparently working better as theory than as reality. Reporters investigating airport security over the Labor Day weekend were able to smuggle all sorts of contraband -- small knives, corkscrews, pepper spray, razors -- through checkpoints at 11 major U.S. airports. CBS news crews were even able to get lead-lined bags -- which block out X-rays -- past roughly 70 percent of the airport screeners. Worried? Remember, these are TV reporters we're talking about here. Reinstall XP? http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54942,00.html

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Death Threats to Journalists
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Vanity Fair writer who penned Seagal/Mafia story reports gun threat Ned Zeman was returning to his Los Angeles home last week, according to a Vanity Fair editor, when a car drove up behind him, shined a light into his car and pulled up alongside him. A man in the car pointed a handgun at Zeman and said, "Bang," and, "Stop what you are doing," before driving off. Zeman's piece on actor Steven Seagal's allegation that he was extorted by the Mafia appears on newsstands today. David Carr notes that Zeman is the second journalist to report being threatened -- the LAT's Anita Busch reported an incident in June -- while working on an article about Seagal's allegation. (New York Times/reg. req.) Photographer caught a bullet...dead. http://www.rsf.fr/content.php3

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Affordable terrorism insurance from a socialism for the rich au Govt.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

http://smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/05/1031115886485.html "...In general, the insurance scheme is expected to operate along similar lines to that of Pool Re, which was set up by the British Government at the height of the IRA's terror campaign. Under that scheme, premiums cover bombings and, if reserves are exhausted, member companies contribute another 10 per cent, with any remaining liabilities idemnified by the British Government." How many of these free market capitalists love the Govt tit?

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Guilty till proven innocent.State P.I.Gs get seizures.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5035336%255E661,0… "STREET level drug dealers, car thieves, burglars, abalone poachers, standover merchants and blackmailers face losing all their assets under new seizure laws. Criminals' assets will be frozen upon or before arrest and automatically forfeited after conviction. And police will be able to sell possessions likely to depreciate in value, such as luxury cars and boats, even before their owners appear in court. After conviction it will be up to the criminals to prove they legally obtained the seized assets, rather than for police to prove they were the proceeds of crime. They will lose everything they own, from houses right down to watches and clothes, unless they can prove lawful acquisition Police Minister Andre Haermeyer yesterday defended the reversal of the usual onus of proof as necessary to hit criminals where it hurt most in their hip pockets." "police had been foiled in seizing some criminals' assets because of the speed with which money could be moved on the Internet." MORE ON http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5035014%255E661,0… Corrupt P.I.Gs prove they cant be trusted.

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Eurotrashing our rights.Grey ooze.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Secret EU-US agreement on criminal cooperation being negotiated (PDF) Leaked text of EU documents related to a 'secret agreement on criminal matters, investigative procedures and joint teams being negotiated' between EU and US officials 'without the European or national parliaments being consulted' - 'In the negotiations with the US the EU governments appear to be willing to drop or modify (in a negative way) a number of basic rights and protections built into EU law and protected by the European Convention on Human Rights' ( Statewatch ) See also this press release with links to supporting documents, and this Guardian coverage Privacy and Human Rights 2002 (PDF) Annual international survey of privacy laws and developments, this edition examining the effects of 'anti-terror' measures introduced or proposed since 11 September ( Privacy International ) See also the accompanying Country Reports: Argentina to Lithuania (PDF) and Country Reports: Luxenbourg to United States (PDF), this press release, and this CNET coverage LINKS? http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm John Gray: Forget everything you know Long, erudite profile of philosopher John Gray, Professor of European Thought at the LSE ( Will Self via Independent ) See also this article by Gray from February 2001, this article by Gray from July 2001, and this article by Gray from April 2000, all of which emphasise a preference for 'realism' over 'unreality'

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Freeze frame on the stuckist web,proposal to boycott Hollywood.AP.
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/26952.html "...some of your contributors to this debate remind me of the kind of gentlemen who live in Montana and bury food and ammo caches around their houses for when the UN troops come to round them up. It seems that the era of personal liberty we've enjoyed in the West for so long is finally going to be ended when Microsoft and the RIAA take over the internet and we all have Fritz chips installed up our arses. " AND "Also arriving via The Daily Electronic Crapper was news that organized crime was in the business of disseminating computer viruses. Why the underbosses might be involved in virus surplus was not explained by Reuters, but the news did mix nicely with word from a colleague a week earlier that an "expert" at a recent CERT-hosted conference was chattering excitedly about the Mafia carrying out hits over the Internet." http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/26949.html Pommies gettin' jiggy wit it?

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UK MOD
by Matthew X 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

MOD Selects The Carlyle Group as Preferred Bidder for QinetiQ partnering arrangement Press release announcing that the Carlyle Group, the well-connected and secretive private equity firm central to many post-911 conspiracy theories, is likely to take an unspecified stake in QinetiQ, the 'scientific research organisation' currently owned by the UK Ministry of Defence ( QinetiQ ) See also this additional release, and this Red Herring article from January.LINKS? http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm Enrons Tentacles in England,au. http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/2002/01/30/FFXJ6XGK0XC.html AND http://theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/04/1031115884347.html

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8pm update
by Nomen Nescio 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

8pm update Corralitos, September 14th, 2002. A group of armed white supremacists, known to support anti-american activities and publicly calling for dismantling of US government, has been in stand off with police for six hours now. The incident started when a guest at Mr. May's party called the police to complain about being threatened with a weapon. Several neighbors also reported supicious gathering. Additional SWAT forces are being called in.

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Domestic Surveillance: BBC article on Fin Surveillance Software Firm
by Major Variola (ret) 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Mantas's job is to write and install the complex software packages which banks and other financial institutions use to help them spot signs of money laundering or terrorist finance within their accounts. And the boost to business came a year ago, in the wake of the outrage that hit the US on 11 September. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2221261.stm

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Re: Cryptographic privacy protection in TCPA
by Nomen Nescio 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

It looks like Camenisch & Lysyanskaya are patenting their credential system. This is from the online patent applications database: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/n… > Non-transferable anonymous credential system with optional anonymity > revocation > > Abstract > > The present invention relates to a method and system for securely > proving ownership of pseudonymous or anonymous electronic credentials. A > credential system is described consisting of users and organizations. An > organization knows a user only by a pseudonym. The pseudonyms of the > same user, established for use with different organizations, cannot be > linked. An organization can issue a credential to a pseudonym, and the > corresponding user can prove possession of this credential to another > organization that knows him under another pseudonym. During the prove of > possession of the credential nothing besides the fact that he owns such > a credential is revealed. A refinement of the credential system provides > credentials for unlimited use, so called multiple-show credentials, > and credentials for one-time use, so called one-show credentials. Some of the claims seem a little broad, like this first one: > 1. A method for establishing a pseudonym system by having a certificate > authority accepting a user as a new participant in said pseudonym system, > the method comprising the steps of: receiving a first public key provided > by said user; verifying that said user is allowed to join the system; > computing a credential by signing the first public key using a secret > key owned by said certificate authority; publishing said first public > key and said credential. Wouldn't this general description cover most proposed credential systems in the past, such as those by Chaum or Brands? Does anyone know how to contact the PTO regarding proposed patents, perhaps to point out prior art?

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Update from telegraph.co.uk
by telegraph.co.uk 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

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Privacy/anonymity charities
by Anonymous 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

The company I work for has a charitable donation matching program. Do you have any suggestions for organizations with 501(c)3 status who would be worthy recipients of a donation? I have EFF and EPIC on my list. Are there others doing things to protect anonymity and privacy rights? I am more interested in actively working on developing ways of securing people's anonymity, rather than lobbying or litigation organizations. I think that the two I have above cover the latter nicely. TIA.

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Announcement: Cypherpunks meeting/party/BBQ, Tim May's house
by Tim May 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

ANNOUNCEMENT: Cypherpunks Meeting and Party/BBQ, Saturday, September 14th, 2002. Tim May's house, Corralitos, California. * WHAT?: Ten years ago this month the first Cypherpunks meeting. Cypherpunks meeting and party. Several interesting talks are planned, though nothing of the usual "political action" sort. A flexible agenda will be posted at the meeting. I am hoping we can have as stimulating a discussion as we had at our first meetings a decade ago. * WHEN?: Saturday, September 14th, 1 p.m. to "late." (A limited amount of people can stay overnight--ask me about it.) Formal talks will probably run for several hours, then the informal and BBQ/party takes over. People can arrive as early as 1 p.m. and hang out, but the formal agenda will start promptly at 2. * WHERE?: Tim May's house in Corralitos, east of Santa Cruz and north of Watsonville. 427 Allan Lane, Corralitos. Detailed driving instructions at the end of this message...or use one of the many mappers on the Net. It takes about an hour to get from Sunnyvale to my house, about 40 miles, so plan your travel accordingly. * WHO?: Cypherpunks and friends who are not narcs or Feds. Contrary to some meetings in the past, this is NOT an "open meeting, open to all." That strategy worked OK for some meetings in public places where certain kinds of software were to be distributed. But my house is a private residence. I have nothing against legitimate cops enforcing legitimate laws, but I don't want persecutors traipsing through my house, perhaps planting evidence, looking for signs of illegal activities or grounds for a warrant, etc. This is a PRIVATE RESIDENCE and I intend to escort to the door anyone who is unknown to others. If you are a lurker who doesn't know anybody and you want to attend, send me e-mail and we'll arrange something. * WHAT ELSE?: Parking may be tight. And because of the distance, carpooling with your friends would be good. A cat lives in the house...don't leave any doors open, and tell me if you see him get out. * CHILDREN?: My house is not child-friendly, and I don't have time to make sure nothing dangerous is exposed. Please leave children out of this meeting/party. * FOOD: If you stay for the evening BBQ and party, bring something to share. Don't everyone bring a bag of chips! The Corralitos Market is a popular place for meats, sausages, etc. (Don't everyone bring sausages, either!) And if you drink, remember the drive home. --Tim May (location instructions below) Getting to Tim May's house in Corralitos: 427 Allan Lane (MapQuest works well). 831-728-0152 From Santa Cruz, south on Highway 1. Take Freedom Boulevard exit in Aptos. Go inland, on Freedom Blvd. Travel about 5 miles, to first stop sign. Take a left on Corralitos Road. At the the next stop sign, the Corralitos Market (good sausages!) will be on your left. Just before the stop sign, bear right on Brown's Valley Road. Cross bridge and then bear left as Brown's Valley Road turns. Travel about one mile to Allan Lane, on the right. Allan Lane is at about the "360" mailbox point on Brown's Valley Road...if you go too far and enter the redwoods, turn back! Drive to top of hill on Allan Lane. At top, bear left, over a small rise, past a house on the left, then down my driveway. My house will be the white stucco semi-Spanish style, with a red Explorer and black Mercedes in the driveway. Note for parties: You can park either in my driveway or at the top of the hill and walk a few hundred feet. Don't block any driveways! From points south of Santa Cruz, take Green Valley Road exit off of Highway 1. Travel about 2 miles to Freedom Boulevard. Turn left. Then right at Corralitos Road.

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Denver P.I.Gs cough up.
by Matthew X 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Activists in Denver get a peek at the secret police files that had been compiled (english) AP 12:28am Wed Sep 4 '02 article#201438 About 200 people crowded the lobby of Police Department headquarters Tuesday after officials opened 3,200 ``spy files'' on local activists and organizations. DENVER (AP) _ Holding the just-released 18-page file that had secretly compiled on her by police, activist Barbara Cohen smiled and shrugged her shoulders. ``Don't I look like a dangerous criminal?'' the barely 5-foot tall, 53-year-old gray-haired legal secretary asked. About 200 people crowded the lobby of Police Department headquarters Tuesday after officials opened 3,200 ``spy files'' on local activists and organizations. City officials have conceded police went too far when they began documenting individuals and groups some three years ago. Mayor Wellington Webb, himself the subject of police surveillance when he was a young activist, has condemned the practice. He said it violated city policy. Many who waited for up to an hour to see their file received papers that still smelled of black marker where police had deleted the names of people linked to them. Some of these files, which were categorized by groups, individuals and incidents, contained inaccurate information, some said. Cohen, who belongs to the group End the Politics of Cruelty, said she is considering a lawsuit after police linked her to a motorcycle group she never heard of. News that religious and peace groups were among those placed under surveillance since about 1999 drew charges of police misconduct, an investigation by a three-judge panel and the decision to let some people see their files before the reports are purged. Mark Silverstein, legal director of the Colorado chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, had a file for speaking at a rally in February 2000, which he insisted he didn't attend. ``It sounds like I ran my mouth off at a rally, but I wasn't there,'' he said. The American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker group and a Nobel Peace Prize winner, was listed as a criminal extremist group by police, according to the ACLU. So was the Chiapas Coalition, which supports the Mayans of the Chiapas state in Mexico where there have been guerrilla uprisings. Amnesty International was listed as a civil disobedience group. Some officers were not properly trained in intelligence gathering and some people and groups may have been misclassified as criminal extremists, said C.L. Harmer, spokeswoman for the Department of Safety, which oversees the police department. The system has been examined by outside auditors and training is under way, she said. Criminal intelligence gathering, however, remains an important police tool, Harmer added. ``As we approach 9-11, I think it reaffirms the legitimate use of legitimate criminal files,'' she said. Records of people not suspected of crimes will be released to those people, then purged after Nov. 1. However, the city attorney's office will keep copies of all files, including those eliminated by police. The names of people or groups considered legitimate targets of surveillance, as determined by an outside auditor, will remain in the files and won't be released. ___ On the Net: Denver police: http://www.denvergov.org/Police/template112667.asp http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=201438&group=webcast

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04 Sep '02

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