July 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Fw: Ready to Save Money? ONQCGTLY
by dainnl＠hotmail.com 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

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Fw: Do You Use Your Printer Alot? JHUSHMEV
by dalbyh＠hotmail.com 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

What have you been up to? I don't know about you, but I am sick and tired of going down to the store to find out that your printer cartridges cost more than the printer itself! I know how you feel - I print over 500 pages a day, and it feels like there is a vacuum sucking money out of my wallet! Now, this has got to stop because I know it doesn't cost the printer companies anywhere near what it costs me to do my office and school work! Well, it finally has. The SUPERINK solution. You're probably thinking to yourself, "Gosh darn, not another cheap knockoff printer cartridge!" Like you, I was very skeptical at first, but my best friend & business associate said it helped her save over $100 a month on printer supplies. So I tried it. I mean, there was nothing to lose because they offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee, up to a one-year warranty on all of their products and FREE Shipping on ALL orders! Let me tell you, it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Period. Six months later, as I'm writing this message to you, I've gone from spending $1000 dollars a month on printer supplies to Now ONLY $475! and I haven't had to sacrifice the quality or service that I received from the local office supply store. In fact, the service is even BETTER! I've had 1 defective cartridge since I started dealing with SUPERINK and they sent me a new replacement within 3 days, no questions asked. Now, I can print all I want! I was so happy with the results that I contacted their manufacturer and got permission to be a reseller - at a BIG discount. I want to help other people to avoid getting jipped by the printer companies like I did. Because a penny saved is a penny earned! I give you my personal pledge the SUPERINK soltuion will absolutely WORK FOR YOU. If it doesn't, you can return your order anytime for a full refund. If you are frustrated with dishing out money like it is water to the printer companies, or tired of poor quality ink & toner cartridges, then I recommend - the SUPERINK solution. You're probably asking yourself, "Ok, so how do we save all this money without losing quality and service?" Modern technology has provided SUPERINK with unique, revolutionary methods of wax molding that allow the ink & toner to 'settle', which prevents any substantial damage that would occur during shipping and handling. Nothing "magic" about it - just quality & savings, BIG SAVINGS! Here is the bottom line ... I can help you save 30%-70% per week/per month/per year or per lifetime by purchasing any of our ink & toner supplies. Just try it once, you'll keep coming back - there's nothing to lose, and much MONEY to be saved! 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed. You will be able to print as much as you want without wasting money or sacrificing quality - GUARANTEED. That is my pledge to you. To order from the SUPERINK Solution on our secure server, just click on the link below (or enter it into your browser): http://www.superink.net/ If you have difficulty accessing the website above, please try contacting us toll-free at 1-800-758-8084 - Thanks! Sincerely - Bruce Tipton ****************************************************************** If you do not wish to receive any more emails from me, please send an email to "print2(a)btamail.net.cn" requesting to be removed. Thank You and Sorry for any inconvenience. ******************************************************************

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Re: Markets (was Re: Hayek was right. Twice.)
by Ian Grigg 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

> But try constructing an Independence Day without Will Smith. Or the > special effects. Or the soundtrack. Or the distribution chain. Try > guaranteeing that it arrives on schedule without making a loss. I think > you will not be able to accomplish that with a volunteer effort. Try doing > that tens of thousands of times a year (that's for all of what is > currently covered by IP) and you're bound to fail. Unlike with Linux, the > individual parts of most larger projects involving IP are of no use > without the surrounding whole. Unlike Linux, many IP products aren't > modular, reusable or decomposable, and so they can only exist if you can > find a single source of financing for the whole project. In the case of > modular projects, you can rely on overlapping interests to fill in the > voids, but most projects aren't like that. Especially if all that the > creator gets is the ever-diminishing value of a single copy. I find myself compelled to advertise :-) http://www.iang.org/papers/task_market.html addreses this, and whilst the above comments are highly applicable, I believe there are ways forward. See also the work of Eric Hughes, John Walker, the AMIX, Robin Hanson and others. > ... Why is nobody willing to guarantee kernel stability, even when > paid big bucks? Well, the problem is that you are asking too much of one OS. If you want stability, use FreeBSD (we do). If you want security, check out OpenBSD. If you want portability, try NetBSD. If you want to have fun, then Linux is good, so I hear, but serious business finds itself unsatisfied. Mind you, it is getting a whole lot better! > >People do even "grand" things without expecting to be paid (or even > >worse, expecting to die from it), because they want to. > > Well, what stupid people they are. I wouldn't go anywhere as far as > gettimg myself killed for the common good. Even paying for software I can > just copy is a stretch. What makes you think most people care enough to Do > the Right Thing? What makes you think relying on Doing the Right Thing is > a good idea? I mean, it's been tried before, and the consequences aren't > worth a second look. We've had a lot of success with open source. My company published the Cryptix java library back in '96, for purely selfish reasons. Since then, a team of volunteers (including our own people) have produced lots of versions, and kept it moderately up to date. (It's a bit quiet now, the lists are down, giving evidence of the unreliability of the open source model ;-) We had to write Cryptix, that was a business requirement as we needed crypto in Java (and Perl) and nobody had done it before. But, once done, I didn't want to pay to keep it going. So we open sourced it. We got the support and the updates for free, mostly, thereafter. I had to pay for bits and pieces, sure, but when I paid about $6000 (all up) to get the OpenPGP library written, it compared pretty well to the licence fees that RSADSI was charging, of $25,000. I got a good price because the source then got opensourced. Everybody won. And, I had to do it anyway, because RSADSI doesn't deliver OpenPGP :-( (Of course there are alternate business models. Baltimore, IAIK, RSADSI are some famous names that decided to sell their crypto software and made a bundle on the stock exchange. But, when it comes down to it, their model failed, because they were seduced into the apparent gold mine of PKI... But that's getting distracted!) There are other benefits to the open source model: most of the people who've volunteered have boosted their CVs and picked up good work because of it. -- iang

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Re: movie distribution post copyright (Re: Artists)
by mean-green＠hushmail.com 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

>At 10:20 PM 7/8/2002 +0100, Adam Back wrote: >But right now copies of recent release movies (post screen release, but pre DVD/VHS relase) are not generally available in high quality format, suitable for projecting. As you note later, most recent releases to the Net are often lower quality 'cams' shot with consumer quality camcorders. But not all. A number of individuals or groups have managed to consistantly create and distribute VHS or better releases. While not DVD in quality on smaller screens (say below 27-inches) they are more than adequate, sometimes better than the average quality of analog cable reception. See www.vcdquality.com for recent releases and quality ratings. Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople

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Re: TPM cost constraint [was: RE: Revenge of the WAVEoid]
by Optimizzin Al-gorithym 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

At 07:05 PM 7/6/02 -0700, Lucky Green wrote:,> Adding the cost of an EMBASSY or SEE environment to the,>purchase of every new PC is more than the market for bare-bones or even,>mid-range PC's will bear.,>,>--Lucky,> Too bad PCMCIA cardreaders aren't widespread, then a bank could give away smartcards which would be arguably more secure than browserware.

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by G4M-AMERICA 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

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Re: Smart ID Cards Planned for Sailors to Spot Terrorists
by Bill Stewart 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

Bob - This isn't really cryptography-related, and I can't post to DCSB, but this does seem like Cypherpunks material. What an <insert several paragraphs of sailor-type language here/> outrageous proposal! Can't sail without some government fingerprinting you, laser-scanning your eyes, and throwing you in a huge database? <more nautical language/>. I'd expect the ILO to be socialist - they are a big union after all - but I wouldn't expect them to be totalitarians. Sure, it's a way to create a harder-to-avoid union card, and a way for their biggest customers to be forced to hire their people by using government pressure to enforce it. It's also a surveillance mechanism to let management keep track of sailors they dislike, prevent politically incorrect people from getting jobs as sailors, give governments additional control over sailors in port, private sailors, and refugees who can't afford to travel on airplanes, and gives large governments an increased excuse to interfere with high-seas traffic between other countries under the pretense of checking whether all the sailors are documented. From a technology perspective, the interesting paragraph is The plans have drawn criticism from seafarer's groups concerned that port authorities may insert information in so-called ``smart'' identification documents without the cardholder's knowledge. Sure, smart cards with non-user-viewable data can easily have extra data in them saying the user is a "Communist" or "union organizer" or did scab labor or is a Muslim or a Jew or a Rastafarian. And it's easy for port authorities to send copies of sailors' photos to their local police in case they're wandering around town. But with the Internet reaching everywhere, either by wire or satellite, the information doesn't need to be hidden in the card. The card says that you're "Sailor #12345678", so they can look you up on any website they want - not just the ILO's "paid their union dues" database, and Interpol's "Never been caught smoking dope" database, and the shipping companies' "Not a union troublemaker" database", and the "originally from _this_ country even though they're now American" database, and Blacknet's databases on "gets in Bar Fights" and "scab laborers". Bill Stewart At 06:10 PM 07/03/2002 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=Top%20World%20News&s1=blk&tp=ad… > >Bloomberg News > >Top World News > >07/03 13:20 >Smart ID Cards Planned for Sailors to Spot Terrorists (Update1) >By Amy Strahan Butler > >Washington, July 3 (Bloomberg) -- The identities of more than 500,000 >commercial sailors worldwide would be verified through thumb or iris scans >under tough, new anti-terrorism standards backed by the U.S. and other >industrialized nations. > >``The whole idea is to come up with a worldwide system for positive, >verifiable identification of seafarers,'' said Mary Covington, associate >director of the Washington office of the International Labor Organization, >a United Nations-affiliated group that's developing the standards. > >The labor organization got a big boost when representatives of the Group of >Eight nations -- the U.S., Japan, Germany, the U.K., France, Canada, Italy >and Russia -- endorsed the standards during a meeting in Canada last week. > >The plans have drawn criticism from seafarer's groups concerned that port >authorities may insert information in so- called ``smart'' identification >documents without the cardholder's knowledge. > >Those concerns are being swept aside as the drive to close loopholes in >shipping security has gained momentum since Sept. 11 in the U.S., where >less than 2 percent of cargo entering ports is inspected by the U.S. >Customs Service. > >After the terrorist attacks, the Coast Guard began requiring ships to >notify ports 96 hours prior to arrival and to submit a list of crew members. > >Card-Carrying Sailors > >Commercial sailors in countries that ratify the ILO standards would be >required to carry identification cards similar to driver's licenses that >also contain biometric information, such as a thumbprint or iris scan. >Under the proposal, port authorities would be able to verify the identity >of the card bearer by scanning his thumb or eye. > >The credentials could be issued to more than a half-million shipping >employees as governments attempt to tighten port security to prevent >terrorist activities. > >``This would help produce uniform treatment of seafarers,'' said Chris >Koch, president of the World Shipping Council, a trade association >representing more than 40 shipping companies, including Atlantic Container >Line AB and Crowley Maritime Corp. ``That's in the interest of not only >seafarers but of commerce.'' > >The current ILO convention for identifying shipping employees entering >foreign ports asks that countries to provide seafarers with documents, such >as passports, that include their name, date of birth, nationality and photo. > >Technology Lag > >Once the identification standards are drafted, individual governments would >be responsible for ratifying and enforcing them. Only 61 countries have >ratified the ILO's existing documentation standards for commercial sailors. > >Critics of the proposal say that technology sophisticated enough to >differentiate between the characteristics of thousands of irises, for >example, is still years away. > >``There is no perfect biometrics technology,'' the Automatic Identification >Manufacturers Association of Japan wrote to the ILO. An accurate system >would lengthen inspection times while a cheaper, faster one would be more >inaccurate and possibly a target for terrorists, the agency said. > >Still, it's important to set the standards and then let the technology >catch up, said Joseph Cox, president of the Chamber of Shipping of America. >Biometric characteristics within the identification cards are essential for >security, Cox said. > >``There's no question we're going to have something like that,'' Cox said. >``We will get there because we have to get there.'' > >-- >----------------- >R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> >The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> >44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA >"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, >[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to >experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >The Cryptography Mailing List >Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to >majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Tuguiade.com - Todas tus guias, todo tu ocio... al alcance de tu mano
by info＠tuguiade.com 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

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Digital e-Book Publishing FREE Software Download
by Jeri Birkland 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

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RE: Closed source more secure than open source
by Trei, Peter 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

> Bill Stewart[SMTP:bill.stewart@pobox.com] > > At 06:31 PM 07/06/2002 -0700, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > >First, closed source testing, beginning in the late Alpha testing stage, > is > >generally done without any assistance from source code, by _anyone_, this > >significantly hampers the testing. > [...] One factor which has been ignored so far is reputation effect the two regimes have on the programmer, and the implications of that on how he writes. In virtually every Open Source project I've seen, the code is signed. Not cryptographically - the identity of the creator is known to anyone who chooses to look at the code. If they know that there is a distinct possibility that a large number of critical, intelligent, strangers are going to be looking over their code, most programmers will make an extra effort to write well, by the metrics their peers value. Thus, not only will the code work, but it will be better commented, cleaner, and clearer. This leads to fewer weak spots. You can't sweep dirt under the rug if there is no rug. In an ideal world, of course, closed source programmers would do the same, but human nature being what it is, they often don't. With signed Open Source, every line of code becomes part of an engineers reputation, part of the way they are judged by peers and potential employers. Peter Trei

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