June 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Ross's TCPA paper
by Nomen Nescio 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Lucky Green writes regarding Ross Anderson's paper at: http://www.ftp.cl.cam.ac.uk/ftp/users/rja14/toulouse.pdf > I must confess that after reading the paper I am quite relieved to > finally have solid confirmation that at least one other person has > realized (outside the authors and proponents of the bill) that the > Hollings bill, while failing to mention TCPA anywhere in the text of the > bill, was written with the specific technology provided by the TCPA in > mind for the purpose of mandating the inclusion of this technology in > all future general-purpose computing platforms, now that the technology > has been tested, is ready to ship, and the BIOS vendors are on side. It's an interesting claim, but there is only one small problem. Neither Ross Anderson nor Lucky Green offers any evidence that the TCPA (http://www.trustedcomputing.org) is being designed for the support of digital rights management (DRM) applications. In fact if you look at the documents on the TCPA web site you see much discussion of applications such as platform-based ecommerce (so that even if a user's keys get stolen they can't be used on another PC), securing corporate networks (assuring that each workstation is running an IT-approved configuration), detecting viruses, and enhancing the security of VPNs. DRM is not mentioned. Is the claim by Ross and Lucky that the TCPA is a fraud, secretly designed for the purpose of supporting DRM while using the applications above merely as a cover to hide their true purposes? If so, shouldn't we expect to see the media content companies as supporters of this effort? But the membership list at http://www.trustedcomputing.org/tcpaasp4/members.asp shows none of the usual suspects. Disney's not there. Sony's not there. No Viacom, no AOL/Time/Warner, no News Corp. The members are all technology companies, including crypto companies like RSA, Verisign and nCipher. Contrast this for example with the Brodcast Protection Discussion Group whose ongoing efforts are being monitored by the EFF at http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/HDTV/. There you do find the big media companies. That effort is plainly aimed at protecting information and supporting DRM, so it makes sense that the companies most interested in those goals are involved. But with the TCPA, the players are completely different. And unlike with the BPDG, the rationale being offered is not based on DRM but on improving the trustworthiness of software for many applications. Ross and Lucky should justify their claims to the community in general and to the members of the TCPA in particular. If you're going to make accusations, you are obliged to offer evidence. Is the TCPA really, as they claim, a secretive effort to get DRM hardware into consumer PCs? Or is it, as the documents on the web site claim, a general effort to improve the security in systems and to provide new capabilities for improving the trustworthiness of computing platforms? --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Re: Police guard stabbed China Venture Capital chief
by Steve Schear 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

At 09:43 PM 6/20/2002 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >http://biz.scmp.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=SCMP/P… > > > > >Friday, June 21, 2002 >Police guard stabbed chief > >BEI HU > >The chairman of China Venture Capital, the firm at the centre of an alleged >5.4 billion yuan (about HK$5 billion) stock manipulation scheme in China, >has been placed under police protection in hospital after being stabbed in >Shenzhen on Tuesday. > >China Venture Capital was renamed Shenzhen Kondarl in October last year. > >Mainland media yesterday speculated whether the incident was linked to the >trial of eight defendants over the alleged rigging of the share price of >China Venture Capital between August 1999 and February 2000. These Chinese are obviously much further along in effective enforcement of criminal business behavior than the SEC and Congress. steve

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"Terror Reading"
by Eric Cordian 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

It was my understanding that libraries destroy records of patrons' activity as soon as the books are returned. Nonetheless, this is an interesting Federal fishing expedition, with warrants issued by secret courts, and criminal penalties for librarians who talk too much. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-attacks-librarie… ----- By CHRISTOPHER NEWTON Associated Press Writer June 25, 2002, 1:40 AM EDT WASHINGTON -- Across the nation, FBI investigators are quietly visiting libraries and checking the reading records of people they suspect of being in league with terrorists, library officials say. The FBI effort, authorized by the anti-terrorism law enacted after the Sept. 11 attacks, is the first broad government check of library records since the 1970s, when prosecutors reined in the practice for fear of abuses. A Justice Department official in the civil rights division and FBI officials declined to comment Monday, except to note that such searches are now legal under the Patriot Act that President Bush signed last October. Libraries across the nation were reluctant to discuss their dealings with the FBI. The same law that makes the searches legal also makes it a criminal offense for librarians to reveal the details or extent of the contact. ... -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: "Terror Reading"
by Harmon Seaver 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:30:47AM -0600, Michael Motyka wrote: > OK, so all that is needed is a collateral-based anonymous library card. > Required collateral could be based on the difficulty of replacement. > Priceless relics could require identity as collateral. Potboilers, > market price + shipping and handling. > Actually, I think it's a non-issue. Why would someone planning a bombing, let's say, check out a book from the library on explosives, when he could just read/copy it right there, totally anonymously. Of course, in the past when the fedzis wanted access to patron's records, it was more on the level of thought crime -- were they reading commie lit. Is that what they're after now -- whose reading Islamic texts? Put them on the list to be tortured. Also I just realized that if they allowed the fedzis access to the staff side of the database, so they could read the victim's records, they would then also have the ability to manufacture evidence, check out books in that person's name. > Worse than searching library records, of course, is the tracking of > internet reading habits. Exactly. And most ISPs don't have the moral backbone that librarians do, they all roll over without a wimper. I think the fedzis would have to be seriously stupid in the first place to even attempt to get libraries to spy on patrons -- there's far too many old '60s radicals in libraries who would love the opportunity to shout it from the rooftops, make a real cause out of it. It's totally absurd for the fedzis to think that they can tell anyone not to talk about it anyway -- there's no possibility that could pass constitutional muster. Are they going to start arresting citizens as "material witnesses" because they refuse to cooperate? That would go over real well. Maybe we should hope they do, all the better to get protestors out in the streets. It's pretty clear the courts are starting to really frown on the current fedzi power grab, as is congress. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

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