August 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Mind rape [was: Re: INTERCEPT THIS]
by Tim May 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

On Thursday, August 9, 2001, at 01:55 PM, Trei, Peter wrote: > Aimee, who is somewhat of a newcomer to our list, is groping towards > an idea which seems to hold the minds of many contributors; that the > contents of our private data are as personal, and should be as > inviolate, > as the contents of our heads. > > To those of us to whom the use of computers is as natural as breathing, > our data are as much a part of us as our memories, and we instinctively > feel they should be just as intimately held. > > We now use computers as extensions of our minds - a vast store of > knowledge, ideas, and abilities. This ability simply did not exist at > the > time the Constitution was written, and as computers grew out of > accounting equipment, their data came to be treated as 'papers' > rather than 'memories'. I agree with your sentiments, but not where I think you are going with this. Importantly, there is nothing in the Constitution about "memories" have special protection. There is "secure in one's papers and possessions," there is language about under what conditions a person may be compelled to testify, but there is no special protection or language about "memories." And I think writings on a computer are no more special than writings in journals and letters and personal papers. Many of the Founders and their contemporaries were _prodigious_ writers, generating thousands of notes and letters a year. Many were ardent diarists. They would agree, I'm sure, with our current revulsion for having fishing expeditions where the King's men root around in papers looking for thoughtcrimes and evidence of conspiracies. I'm not a historian, but I don't recall hearing about many "take all of the papers and diaries in the house" raids on people in the 1800s. Most court cases were about alleged actual crimes, not thoughtcrimes. (Perhaps during the persecution of the Mormons in Missouri there were zealous prosecutors and judges who ordered all papers sifted through. As I said, I'm not a historian.) It seems that it was this past century that political crimes, thoughtcrimes like Debs being jailed for talking about the draft being bad, became so central to our corrupt legal system. The search for communists, dissidents, and troublemakers. This was paralleled by trends in "discovery." In the past 20 years it has become routine for lawyers to demand every scrap of paper of any conceivable relevance, whether in a divorce case or an antitrust case. (This is why IBM, Microsoft, Intel and other companies shred so many records.) Then we had the War on (Some) Drugs, the seizures of property, the Steve Jackson Games case (where _every_ computer and disk drive was dumped in the back of a truck and hauled away. It's as if someone accused of a minor crime in 1820 were to have his diaries and papers and all of his books taken away for later scrutinizing. And it could have happened in 1820, had the people allowed it. The problem is not that "memories" are being seized. The problem is that "secure in one's papers and possessions" has become a joke, a null and void idea. The solution is pretty obvious to most liberty-minded folks: 1) End the War on (Some) Drugs. This will eliminate most trafficking, distribution, money laundering, and gang war crimes. 2) Nix the idea that a simple search warrant means the contents of a house or office can be carted away. (The Founders would have been shocked at how easy it now is to get a search warrant.) 3) Return to the concept that a search warrant is to be _presented_ to the target of the warrant. There are very few cases where secret searches are needed, once drug crimes and "conspiracies" are interpreted less broadly. 4) Require that _judges_ who issue secret search warrants disclose them after some amount of time. This takes it out of the hands of the FBI to disclose such warrants. Perhaps have a judge supervised by a more senior judge, who monitors compliance. 5) Fewer things criminal, but punish real crimes harshly. Instead of letting an arsonist off with a stern lecture while putting a kid selling blotter acid at a Dead concert in prison for 10 years, don't prosecute the kid and kill the arsonist. For thieves, put them on a work gang for several years. For murderers and rapists (real rapists, not Wimmin's Lib victims), kill them. 6) For cops found guilty of inserting toilet plungers into detainees, kill them. 7) For those involved in burning the Waco compound, kill them. And so on. But stop manufacturing police state thoughtcrimes and then using the courts to rubber-stamp hunting expeditions for more crimes revealed in papers and diaries and computer discs. --Tim May

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Secret Warrants
by A. Melon 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

What is needed, seriously needed right now, is some good, open source surveillance dectection software. Something that would find key-logger software or hardware, something that would check your phone line thru your modem, maybe even could be used as a frequency analyzer with a usb or serial port "antenna" connection for laptops. I'm sure this would be a really good commercial hit. Especially if the price could be kept under $500.

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peer to peer wireless WAN?
by Pawel Krawczyk 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

I was thinking about building medium size WANs based on peer to peer radio links and wonder if such technology exists already? The idea is to have a number of boxes with indoor or outdoor antenna. For example in a city you could have such a box in each flat, in a village in each house. The requirement is that they are far from each other not more that say 200 meters, depending on what our hypothetical wireless technology allows. So far it's quite similiar to what we already have with WLANs. The difference is that the boxes can forward packets for each other, thus allowing distant nodes to communicate via the `router' nodes between them. Many more ideas come to mind here like dynamic routing, access control, traffic policing etc. As for the wireless connection I was thinking about low-power radio broadcast, so you don't need to get license and the big telcos can't sue you as breaking monopolies (still in Poland...). The low-power requirement implies relatively short distance, like 100-200 meters. But that's quite enough with average distance between houses being much smaller in areas where many people live. Do you know technologies like this, existing already? What bandwidth you can get with wireless links based on radio modulation? Thanks for all suggestions. -- Paweł Krawczyk *** home: <http://ceti.pl/~kravietz/> security: <http://ipsec.pl/> *** fidonet: 2:486/23

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Re: Traceable Infrastructure is as vulnerable as traceable
by jamesd＠echeque.com 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

-- On 10 Aug 2001, at 20:25, Faustine wrote: > If you or anyone else here believes that no one at Ft. Meade > could possibly teach you anything, fine. There are lots of people at Ft Meade who could teach me stuff, but, in accord with Parkinson's law, they will be at the bottom of the heap, where they are no longer a danger to anyone. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG fl6up0OFsHTZdqlRKNF4A+ch5Ebe0joElFrmzinx 47vACgdxvAjRnEQpyXZ9sPwhj0k/hVZbhtdv2kVmg

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The Feds Want To Write Your Software
by Matthew Gaylor 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

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Re: Keylogger detection -- HookProtect
by Faustine 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Somebody behind a remailer wrote: > Where's the source, Faustine? Tell you what: why don't you learn assembler, rip it open with whatever the "purist" equivalent of IDAPro is (http://www.datarescue.be/downloadfreeware.htm) and and have yourself a ball. Seriously. >Why would anyone concerned about >personal security want to use something like this? Because the technology behind it is interesting and it addresses a problem associated with detecting keyloggers in a unique way. >For all anybody >knows, this was put together by some of your friends in NSA to >lull the sheeple with fake security audits -- or maybe it finds >key loggers, just not the ones the feebs install. For all anybody knows, you're a federal feeb behind a remailer trying to suss out exactly what I know and don't know about keystroke loggers. But how likely is that. > Besides which it only runs on shitty M$-OS, nobody who is even >the slightest concerned (and has clue) would trust that. If it aint >linux, and ain't opensource, it ain't shit. That's arguable. But don't forget that a lot of people have to use Windows at work. I think HookProtect is better than nothing. > Building something like this seems like a very cpunkerly thing to do Have fun! ~Faustine.

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publi.desarrollo.cursos
by ENSE-CUR 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

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publi.desarrollo.cursos
by ENSE-CUR 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

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Microsoft Viruses
by An Metet 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

James Donald wrote: > Microsoft, as a whole, is incompetent at security. All supposedly > secure software coming out of Microsoft varies from poor to > worthless. Does anyone doubt it? They take standard well known > methods and make well known bungles in applying it and customizing > it. It's hard to believe even Microsoft could be this incompetent. E-mail viruses had been a running joke for years before Microsoft seized the day and made them possible. Now we are seeing calls for what amounts to internet driving licenses and other repressive schemes. Like the bomb plans and pornography hysteria, this is an attack on the Net. The simpletons now think viruses are just something that happens, like somebody getting a cold. The media methodically deceives the public by hunting for scapegoats and propagating Big Lies. Honest media coverage would report on "Microsoft Viruses" and caution people against the use of Microsoft products. They should get at least the same treatment a tire company gets when its products are defective. Typically, when the U.S. media exhibits this behavior it is because the issue has political significance. (And let us not forget the Net is seen as a dangerous competitor.) We should treat this is an organized witch hunt or red scare. > Microsoft produces crap security because most of their customers do > not know any better. Poor lambs.

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