August 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by David Honig 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

At 02:32 PM 8/23/01 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: >> Testing is key. If you don't measure, you don't know. > >Renting time in HF testing facilities is expensive. Do you have >suggestions for a simple sniffer type of instrument, that detects the >amplitude of a radiated field? Do FETs pick up HF fine? I'd get a few freq generators (could be real simple, like a crystal osc), a bunch of antennae, and a spectrum analyzer or two. Probably some sheets of RF adsorbing foam to use as attenuators, and for calibration. And the ARRL handbooks. A preamp after your antennae would increase sensitivity. A lot of scanning radios have a signal-strength output which can be used as a wideband spectrum analyzer. With a WinRadio (computer-controlled scanner) you could capture the time-domain waveforms too, which could help with diagnostics. And then I'd spend some time in the desert, or a foil-lined bomb shelter or cave, doing my testing.

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Re: Anonymous Posting
by Tim May 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

On Thursday, August 23, 2001, at 02:22 PM, "Faustine" wrote: > me. But if you're one of the anonymouses who won't sign your name to > insults and baseless accusations? Well, I'd say you'd be better off the > way > you are. Just dont expect me to waste time reading it. Ironically, this comes from one who uses an obvious (but unsigned!) nym. She/he/it/they criticizes others for "won't sign your name" posts, while we have no way of knowing who she/he/it/they is/are. This entity also claims the list is polluted with pseudonymous and anonymous posts. Ironically, I agree. ~Faustine

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Re: Quantum Computation/Cryptography at Los Alamos
by Tim May 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

On Thursday, August 23, 2001, at 03:17 PM, Faustine wrote: > Los Alamos develops quantum crypto system > By Chappell Brown > Electrical Engineering Times > (08/23/01, 1:06 p.m. EST) > > > LOS ALAMOS, N.M. Engineers at Los Alamos National Laboratory have > developed what they believe is a practical quantum cryptographic system. > The system features two portable units that can encrypt and decrypt > information transmitted via photons. Experiments have shown that > encryption > keys can be sent via free-space transmission at distances of up to 6 > miles. > The system could be used to ensure safe communications between > satellites. > > Quantum cryptography uses the fundamental law of quantum mechanics: Any > observation of a system changes its state. Since photons are elementary > particles, they are subject to the law. If a third party attempts to > "tune > in" to the encrypted transmission, the quantum state of the photons will > change, allowing the eavesdropping to be detected. > Faustine is becoming the new Jim Choate, regurgitating old topics, lecturing us on what she/he/it thinks we don't know, and forwarding items which were stale years ago. Clue: This list is not just a dumping ground for anything with the word "crypto" in it. Metaclue: get a clue. ObFaustineWhine/Predictable: "Some of us are Important Researchers, being paid to sit in our cubicles and surf the Net. Just because we learned about this list last month does not mean we don't have the _right_ to forward everything we learn about crypto to this list!" --Tim May

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OPT: Inferno: Fw: [nycwireless] Seattle Weekly - "The revolution may be wireless" (fwd)
by Jim Choate 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Townsend" <townsnda(a)yahoo.com> To: "Telecom-Cities" <telecom-cities(a)forums.nyu.edu> Cc: <nycwireless(a)lists.spack.org> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:33 AM Subject: [nycwireless] Seattle Weekly - "The revolution may be wireless" > http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0129/tech-fleishman.shtml > > Published July 19 - 25, 2001 > > The revolution may be wireless: Northwest networkers work toward a complete > communications grid, minus the corporate interest. > > BY GLENN FLEISHMAN > > WHEN I WAS A KID, before I discovered theater and girls, a friendly amateur > radio operator (a "ham") took me under his wing, helped me learn Morse code, > and introduced me to the joys of talking to people all over the world using > a transmitter. > > Fade quickly into adolescence, acting, and acne, and I could barely remember > the dits and dahs--ham slang for dots and dashes--to tap out an SOS. > > But those days return vividly when I speak with techie sophisticates who are > building their own free community wireless networks, networks which, > coincidentally, share some open radio frequencies with hams. > > These networkers string their tin-can network--sans string but including > some real cans--from apartment to storefront to rooftop for no better reason > than because they can and because it's cool. The fact that it's useful, > helps the public good by expanding free access, lets them meet their > neighbors ("Hi, I'm running a free network"), and might even put the screws > to cell companies and telco giants--these are but lagniappe. > > Adam Shand, the organizer of a late June summit in Portland, Ore., of these > network builders and advocates, thinks that the interest stems from it being > a "fun geek problem." As to the upshot of it all, he says, "No one's quite > sure yet; we don't know what our ending goal is." > > Seattle finds itself with a growing group of enthusiasts led, as much as any > group of this kind can be led, by Matt Westervelt under the rubric Seattle > Wireless (www.seattlewireless.net) Matt and others have collected a few > dozen geographically dispersed nodes in homes and places like Aurafice Cafe > on Capitol Hill. They are nearing the point where they stitch these points > into a sprawling, mostly seamless grid using cheap, off-the-shelf, and even > homemade equipment. > > The Seattle crew and dozens of similar networks around the world rely on > IEEE 802.11b (or Wi-Fi), the industry standard for high-speed, low-power > wireless. It doesn't require a license to broadcast on the frequencies it > uses in the 2.4 gigahertz band; Wi-Fi uses some of the thinly apportioned, > unlicensed free public spectrum. > > Wi-Fi runs at very low power due to FCC limits, but it can still span dozens > to hundreds of feet indoors through walls and floors; the high frequency > allows the radio waves to pass through. Outdoors, however, the distance > expands dramatically. Twenty-mile line-of-sight tests using cheap equipment > were successful, and I've heard of many working multiple-mile links. > > The 802.11b protocol allows central access points (APs) to coordinate > networks of machines or to connect multiple wired networks. Dozens of > manufacturers make APs, as well as PC cards for laptops, PCI cards for > desktops, USB and Ethernet adapters for older machines, and special modules > for handhelds like the Handspring Visor. > > With enough density of APs, you can build a seamless network allowing both > indoor and outdoor use at speeds of megabits per second. You could walk > around with a laptop streaming video off the Net with nary an interruption. > (A Wall Street Journal story earlier this year followed someone doing just > that around London.) > > Most volunteers' nodes have a high-speed DSL or cable modem connection to > the Internet. The volunteers are engaging in anarchic enlightened > self-interest: By freely sharing their bandwidth, they're increasing the > value and coverage of the entire network, making it more likely for others > to join and share as well. (It warms my heart, reminding me strongly of the > 1994-vintage barely commercial Internet.) > > These volunteers typically also have the advantage of access to their own > roofs and windows, where they mount cheap, sometimes homemade high-gain > antennas that extend the range and sensitivity of a network. > > This is where the free networkers believe they have an advantage over > commercial services, such as MobileStar (www.mobilestar.com) Starbucks' > wireless networking partner (see "Wired But Wireless," May 31). Commercial > outfits would have to make their own, presumably fee-based arrangements to > locate and service antennas and high-speed network connections. > > It's hard to call free wireless networking a movement, because the dozens of > organizations and thousands of individuals involved are scattered around the > globe. But a loose affiliation has started to develop, and the recent > Portland summit furthered ties among builders from Seattle, Portland, and > Vancouver, and those farther afield in New York and the Bay Area. > > Some met privately one day to discuss creating an association and pooling > resources, and the next day met in public to present several sessions on > building antennas, creating network maps online, and the status of for-fee > Wi-Fi (disclaimer: I was gently roped into presenting). > > The interest is there; the nodes exist; the volunteers are working hard. > These advocates and builders may not know why they're on this bus, but they > know how to drive it. The revolution may not be televised; it's more > probable that it will be wireless. > > info(a)seattleweekly.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > Loosely affiliated members of this group include: > > BAWUG, primarily an educational group: www.bawug.org > > Nocat, in Marin County north of San Francisco, some of the members of which > also happen to work for technical publisher O'Reilly & Associates: nocat.net > > PDXWireless and Personal Telco in Portland, which have merged their > interests and meetings: www.personaltelco.net, www.pdxwireless.com > > NYCWireless: www.nycwireless.net > > BCWireless: www.bcwireless.net > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > NYC Wireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/

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Quantum Computation/Cryptography at Los Alamos
by Faustine 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Los Alamos develops quantum crypto system By Chappell Brown Electrical Engineering Times (08/23/01, 1:06 p.m. EST) LOS ALAMOS, N.M. Engineers at Los Alamos National Laboratory have developed what they believe is a practical quantum cryptographic system. The system features two portable units that can encrypt and decrypt information transmitted via photons. Experiments have shown that encryption keys can be sent via free-space transmission at distances of up to 6 miles. The system could be used to ensure safe communications between satellites. Quantum cryptography uses the fundamental law of quantum mechanics: Any observation of a system changes its state. Since photons are elementary particles, they are subject to the law. If a third party attempts to "tune in" to the encrypted transmission, the quantum state of the photons will change, allowing the eavesdropping to be detected. Quantum Computation/Cryptography at Los Alamos homepage http://qso.lanl.gov/qc/

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Re: Anonymous Posting
by Faustine 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

anonymous wrote: >Yes, one would expect all sorts of trash, but for some reason that's >not happening right now. This thread certainly passed my threshold of being interesting enough to reply to, but it's atypical. If I have a low opinion of the kinds of anonymous interactions I've had in the past and would rather skip people who don't have anything to say, it means I either have to wade through stuff that wastes my time or miss out reading posts like yours. I don't think that's a terribly effective way to organize a list or have discussions. > 2) I used the earlier Cypherpunks remailers in their first month of > operation, in 1992. More to the point, I architected the basic > features remailers should have at the first Cypherpunks > meeting. Check the archives if you doubt this. >Actually, I consider the Great Timothy May to be beyond my judgment. >(No irony intended.) Just thought I'd point out that if someone is beyond your judgment, it means you're operating on faith. Question everyone; get a spine. Why isn't this obvious? >In general, however, it's hard to understand why people who claim to >be cypherpunks won't use remailers or even encrypted mail. The "I >only use these tools when I'm committing felonies" model is flawed. You have zero reason to think you have the faintest idea who here uses remailers and encryption when, why, for what, to whom, and under what circumstances based on whether or not they use it posting to a mailing list. It's a hell of a presumption on your part. Furthermore, it's ridiculous to try to dictate how people should conduct their affairs. For what it's worth, technically speaking, Hushmail and Cotse ARE encrypted remailers, just psuedoanonymous ones. >If people were saying they are not interested in these tools or >technologies, then there's no issue. But what I don't understand is >people claiming this stuff is interesting but then not even using it. Re-read my posts on this carefully and see if you still think that's a good characterization of what I said. >Even worse, many actually disparage those using encryption or >remailers and yet remain subscribed to this list. Strange. Elementary logic: disparaging people who happen to use encryption and remailers is neither equivalent to disparaging the use of encryption and remailers nor equivalant to disparaging people because they happen to use encryption and remailers. >(If there was more noise coming from remailers I'd probably sign posts >so filtering would be feasible. Hopefully, I'd be filtered in!) If this is what you normally sound like, I wouldn't filter you out. It's not that I disagree with you that much, you're mainly just misunderstanding me. But if you're one of the anonymouses who won't sign your name to insults and baseless accusations? Well, I'd say you'd be better off the way you are. Just dont expect me to waste time reading it. ~Faustine.

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by David Honig 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

At 10:43 AM 8/23/01 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: > >Using cast aluminum cases, copper foil shielding, tight glands which Just because you're German doesn't mean you can say 'tight glands' without a snicker. 'Highly conductive gaskets' is perhaps less likely to amuse the more adolescent among us. Faustine, look up Faraday cages, TEMPEST, and search the archives. As if you didn't know. Succinctly, the electron gas in metals shields you from the electromagnetic antics of distant, radiating electrons, by shorting the ripples in the aether they make -and this shielding makes it harder to listen to your emissions, too. The problem is that cables and ventilation vents are antennae, for sending and receiving both. Testing is key. If you don't measure, you don't know.

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