July 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Fundamental Theorems of Cliology (A Candidate List)
by Jim Choate 13 Jul '01

13 Jul '01

These are candidates only, they are intended to foster focused discussion. Fundamental Theorem of Cliology - Who get's to make the choices? - What are the permissible choices? - The first two are auto-catalytic Definition of Society - The cornerstones of any society are - toleration - self-defence - A set of rules, codified or not, and expectations, expressed or not, which regulate both the individual and inter-personal activities of same - Societies may be radically different in content and yet share the same geography - The statics and dynamics of a society are governed by the physics of reality and the psychology of the individual (and it's absolute range) - The expectations of societies can be in direct opposition - Violence does not ensue from opposition but from lack of toleration of opposition - This applies to all levels of societies and seems to be psychology independent (in other words, all life seems to follow it) - As a result, stability can be looked upon as a measure of tolerance Definition of 'crime' - Any act which harms a person, their property, or breaks a public trust without consent - What is a 'public trust'? - A contract entered voluntarily (at the point one questions the compliance but complies they have consented - no expectation of continued consent is implied) to provide service to the community or use a public resource - What is a 'public resource'? - A resource which is common to all and is required for basic individual survival or social operations Fundamental Axiom of Law - The codification of social rules, commonly called 'rule of law', is an extension of the right to self-defence - A defining characteristic of any society is to whom the 'right' falls to (ie some mix of individual or group) - A fundamental defining character is whether the rights of society extend from the individual, or rather the rights of the individual stem from the population Definition of Civil Liberty - The ability to make 'a choice' with respect to individual or classes of decisions - This is the primary defining character of any human society or relationship -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Most of a nation on probation? (GPS convicts)
by Aimee Farr 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Hey Lyn, I know, I know.... actually, I'm a baby privacy, surveillance law/policy and investigative law lawyer. I'm still in my first few years of practice, so I haven't advertised an area yet. (Choosing a practice area is a gut-wrenching decision, nailing yourself to it is even more difficult.) So, yeah...I hear how sucky the bumper beepers are. BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE WE TO LET CPUNKS KNOW ABOUT MY PRACTICE INTERESTS, or I will get covered up in crazies. Raytheon, whatever... *laughter* ~Aimee Lyn Kennedy wrote: > And as usual, this was written by some PR flack without a clue. GPS needs > at least three satellites visible to determine location (not "a" sat). > Also it doesn't work inside most houses. The frequencies used are even > attenuated by trees. Much more by wood, bricks, etc. Even though there > might be some advantages, it's mostly a way to rip off the taxpayers for > more money. > > > BTW, one of your notes said you are in Waco. What kind of law do you > practice? Should I keep your number handy in case I get arrested for > watching planes at TSTC airport while munching my Whopper? Or do you > work for Raytheon? > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | 73, E-mail | lrkn(a)anet-dfw.com | > | Lyn Kennedy webpage | http://webusers.anet-dfw.com/~lrkn/ | > | K5QWB pony express = P.O. Box 5133, Ovilla, TX, USA 75154 | > ---Livin' on an information dirt road a few miles off the superhighway---

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CNN.com - Violence flares again in N.Ireland - July 12, 2001
by Jim Choate 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

All that discipline and training didn't help these blokes... http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/12/nireland.portadown/index.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Your Membership Newsletter 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

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Re: General Ashcroft make his move
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Jimminy Critic wrote: # # Now a couple of questions for you... Yabut you gave cryptic replies, like answering a question with a question. # Where in the Constitution does it say the fed's are supposed # to regulate pornography or sex? Interstate commerce? # Where in the Constitution does it draw a distinction with regard # to 'the people' between adults and minors? You're right! The Constitution only applies to white males! # The 10'th Amendment clearly makes these issues STATE issues, # not federal ones. So, the SCOTUS has no jurisdiction to claim jurisdiction? # Simply because a bunch of religious fascist/socialist wanna do # it don't make it right. SCOTUS or Congress?

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DCSB: David Birch; European Wireless E-Commerce (fwd)
by Jim Choate 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

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by Ryan Van Wyk 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

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Re: Meatspace anonymity manual
by A. Melon 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Ray Dillinger wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: >the protection afforded by Black Blocs is quite thin (just indict them under >organized crime or gang laws), > The similar clothing is enough to charge with gang membership and invoke > RICO. Also, the 'black bloc' tactic has 'premeditated' written all over > it. I'd say these kids haven't provided more protection for themselves; > on the contrary, they've raised the stakes. The cops will have to arrest > *more* people in order to deal with the bloc, but the people arrested > when it happens are going to be charged with more serious crimes, like > racketeering, conspiracy, and membership in a corrupt organization, than > if they'd stuck with the simpler tactics. And most of what they might > otherwise have claimed as defenses are going to crumble under that > 'premeditation' thing. That's irrelevant -- the fedz, and even state courts, are already giving the heaviest sentences to protesters of anytime in our history. And you obviousely have never taken part in any street actions. They've got a good idea -- one of the tactics used by cops for quite awhile is to have undercover agents in the crowd who spot the *real* troublemakers, leaders, etc. and then often an "affinity squad" will target that individual. By making it very difficult to differentiate any individuals, that whole cop tactic becomes useless. The other part of the bloc is that by staying together in a tight group, they can grab arrestees from the cops more easily. We used to have groups of two or three who worked together this way, more is better.

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Proliferation of Surveillance Devices Threatens Privacy
by Matthew Gaylor 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Proliferation of Surveillance Devices Threatens Privacy Joint Statement of House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-TX, And The American Civil Liberties Union FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 11, 2001 WASHINGTON -- Over the past several days, a troubling expansion in the way technology is being used in the surveillance of ordinary Americans has come to light. In response, we are today joining together to call on all state and local governments to stop using these dangerous technologies now before privacy in America is so diminished that it becomes nothing more than a fond memory. Majority Leader Armey will ask the General Accounting Office to study the extent to which the federal government is funding facial-recognition technologies. In addition, he will ask the relevant House Committees to hold hearings on law enforcement use of surveillance technology. The ACLU supports these requests. Tampa, Florida drew attention to the importance of these issues with its highly publicized use of facial recognition technology during this year's "snooperbowl." The city recently took the next step by using the software to scan individuals in an entertainment district. Virginia Beach announced this week that it will seek state funding to install similar facial-recognition cameras in its oceanfront areas. In Colorado, the Department of Motor Vehicles is moving ahead with a plan approved by the Legislature to create a database containing computerized three-dimensional facial maps of all those applying for driver's licenses. There is an alarming potential for misuse of all of these systems. Used in conjunction with facial-recognition software, for example, the Colorado database could allow the public movements of every citizen in the state to be identified, tracked, recorded and stored. These surveillance systems are ineffective and will lead the police to stop people who have done nothing wrong. According to the Los Angeles Times, a recent study by the National Institute of Standards and Technology found that digital comparisons of posed photos of the same person taken 18 months apart triggered false rejection by computers 43 percent of the time. Police relying on this technology will be led too often to stop and question the innocent instead of the suspect. These cameras do not generate suspicion adequate to trigger a law enforcement stop. Instead, they may lead to high-tech "racial profiling" should surveillance cameras be placed in areas populated primarily by members of ethnic and racial minority groups. We are extremely troubled by this unprecedented expansion in high-tech surveillance in the United States. We believe that technology should not be used to create a "virtual line up" of Americans who are not suspected of having done anything wrong. The threats to privacy in America are all too real. We believe the privacy risk outweighs any benefits that these devices may offer. It's time to take notice of what has happened to privacy in America today. The ACLU of Florida has asked Tampa city officials for additional information about what its facial recognition program. For more information, see: http://www.aclu.org/news/2001/n070601a.html Copyright 2001, The American Civil Liberties Union ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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