July 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Philip Morris, in the news
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

<SNERK> MSNBC reports Philip Morris has advised the Czech government, in writing, that they would save millions in retirement benefits if they promoted more smoking. Philip Morris responded to a request for comment by saying, "It was just an economic study." U.S. companies are just trying to be helpful. ;-)

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Burning a flag is a hate crime...
by Jim Choate 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Isn't making a law against burning the flag equally a demonstration of hate? The land of political and religious freedom indeed. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Your kid's an asshole, and guess who's to blame?
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

# http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/14/85942/3961 % % The question is, how do basically good people % do such a great job of screwing up their kids? % % Again, the answer is MONEY. # # James Choate # Product Certification - Operating Systems # Staff Engineer # 512-436-1062 # jchoate(a)tivoli.com GO wrote: # # Well, that's brilliant. # # Is this part of your crackpot economic theories? KAOS wrote: # # Free market economics are crackpot? Once again, you can't answer a simple question. Once again, you responded with a cryptic question. You are the only person for whom it is not cryptic. No one knows what you're talking about, why you posted it, why you pester us. GO wrote: > Is that why you've posted it? KAOS wrote: # # I didn't post 'it'. All I posted was the URL, the 'extra # commentary' along with your mis-assignment of authorship # is all your horse doodoo. All your stuff was clearly attributed with a '#'. The central thesis of the article whose URL you posted was "MONEY" was responsible for screwed up kids. When asked about it, you utterly failed to communicate why your posted the URL, what your position was on the article you posted about. You are incoherent regarding the articles you yourself are posting. Is it any wonder you are hated?

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17 Jul '01

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17 Jul '01

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Moscow Times on Adobe-DCMA-Atrocity
by Al Qaeda 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=1532 Moscow Times covers Adobe PDF eBook decryption -- in PDF ElcomSoft stops selling disputed software, makes limited demo freely available on Internet 8 July 2001 Adding a bit of an ironic twist to the brewing legal matter on alleged copyright infringement between Adobe Systems and Moscow-based ElcomSoft Ltd., The Moscow Times reported the latest events in its July 4 edition -- available in PDF. Meanwhile, Adobe Systems was closed the week of the national U.S. holiday. In a page 9 article titled "E-Book Duplicators Hit Barnes & Noble," the online, English-language newspaper quotes a Barnes & Noble VP as saying the company's Internet store "incurred considerable losses due to the pause in sales of new bestsellers." The company stopped sales for a day late last month to allow Adobe to release version (2.2) of its free Acrobat eBook Reader, an upgrade with enhanced security that could not be decrypted by ElcomSoft's commercially available Advanced Ebook Processor (AEBPR) product. The Times reports that -- as had previously been forewarned in coverage on our Planet eBook sister site -- in response to Adobe's threatened legal action for copyright infringement, ElcomSoft is now giving away an updated, reduced functionality version of AEBPR. According to the company's Web site, this free demo version of AEBPR 2.2 has been modified to support limited decryption -- 25 percent of the content -- "only to demonstrate that Adobe technology (used in Adobe Content Server, Adobe WebBuy and Acrobat eBook Reader) is still weak." "The electronic book world has produced its own Napster," Alexander Katalov, Elcomsoft's General Manager, told the Moscow Times. He also reportedly denied blame for any wrongdoing, pointing to PDF security as the real issue. In defending the company's initial development and sale of AEBPR, he told the Times that the product "was often purchased by people with poor eyesight, since Adobe's e-book software did not permit the use of programs for reading text out loud." In fact, Adobe's eBook Reader does allow ebooks to be read aloud (when using a computer with voice activation capabilities) -- *if* the publisher, not Adobe -- chooses to grant that permission. Adobe had threatened ElcomSoft with copyright infringement in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), specifically Section 1201 -- for circumventing its rights-protection designed to guard the rights of publishers and authors. In legal circles, there currently are debates taking place over the use of encryption systems for digital content that are more restrictive for users than laws dealing with printed books. For example, its commonplace -- and legal -- for someone to re-sell a printed book; as an ebook, with most current technologies, that would be considered a violation of copyright. The Moscow Times' article cites the operator of a Russian Web site on copyright as saying that by simply posting a URL where it now freely gives away AEBPR, ElcomSoft is safe from prosecution "according to current Russian judicial practice." Adobe Systems -- known in the industry for its strong anti-piracy litigation -- seems likely to put that notion to a test, while needing to take steps to further strengthen PDF security and to educate users on proper security implementation techniques -- keeping in mind there is no perfect, never-fail solution. Like The Moscow Times, part of Independent Media, The St. Petersburg Times newspaper also publishes English-language news from Russia -- also in PDF. The complete 31-page, July 4 issue is available online -- as a large PDF file [PDF: 6.2 MB] (and also in HTML).

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by Your Membership Newsletter 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

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[alg] alg gpg/pgp keysigning party on Thur 07-26-01 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:59:30 -0500 From: Paul Elliott <pelliott(a)io.com> Reply-To: alg(a)austinlug.org To: alg <alg(a)austinlug.org> Subject: [alg] alg gpg/pgp keysigning party on Thur 07-26-01 The ALG key signing party will take place on Thursday July 26 2001. In order to participate in the party, please take the following steps: (A) if you have not done so already, generate a GPG/PGP key for yourself. The precise command for this varies with your version of GPG/PGP. Consult the documentation for your version. (B) email your public key to me by noon the day before the party July 25. Please indicate in your subject line the nature of the message. For example, Subject: KEY FOR KEY-SIGNING PARTY. If you use more that one key you can submit more than one, but be reasonable. I will use these keys to prepare a list of key IDs and fingerprints which will facilitate the party. I will Xerox this list. (C) Bring 2 things to the party: (a) your GPG/PGP key fingerprint(s) This will be used to verify that people are being asked to sign the public key that you want them to sign. (b) Identification, preferably picture identification to prove that you are you. The party will be run according to the non-coercion principle. No one is required to bring any particular form of ID. However, the non-coercion principle works two ways. If that ID that you bring does not persuade other people that you are you, then they are not required to sign your KEY! My advice, try a drivers license if possible. ================================================================ AFTER THE PARTY, everyone will have a list of public keys and key finger prints that they have decided it is OK to sign. I will have added all the public keys that were sent to me to the public key servers. I will also email the public keys used in the party to this list, in case anyone does not have access to the public key servers. You will be able to get the public keys that you wish to sign from any public key server. They should sign these public keys and make the signatures public. Please email the signed public keys to me and I will compile the signed public keys for the use of ALG. Please use the subject line: Subject: SIGNED PUBLIC KEY FROM KEY SIGNING PARTY. I will also add these now SIGNED keys to the GPG/PGP public key servers. If you wish, you can also send the signed public keys to the public key servers your own self. -:) For more information on key signing parties in general, see: http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html http://www.herrons.com/kb2nsx/keysign.html -- Paul Elliott 1(512)837-9345 1(512)837-1096 pelliott(a)io.com PMB 181, 11900 Metric Blvd Suite J http://www.io.com/~pelliott/pme/ Austin TX 78758-3117 -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Your kid's an asshole, and guess who's to blame?
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

# http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/14/85942/3961 % % The question is, how do basically good people % do such a great job of screwing up their kids? % % Again, the answer is MONEY. # # James Choate # Product Certification - Operating Systems # Staff Engineer # 512-436-1062 # jchoate(a)tivoli.com Well, that's brilliant. Is this part of your crackpot economic theories? Is that why you've posted it?

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Re: DMCA has pushed me to my limit.
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

> Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> wrote: > > FBI agents have arrested a Russian programmer for giving > away software that removes the restrictions on encrypted > Adobe Acrobat files. The Big O wrote: > > "Nuts!" Black Unicorn with the opalesque spike wrote: # # Ok. That's pretty much my limit. # # Where can reverse engineering be conducted in the # world anymore without felonies being leveled? # # Does anyone care? Cypherpunks do something? Maybe start with the basics: a WWW site. Doesn't Choate have a couple registered names for our use? Describe how to use encryption on each platform. The various options for sending/receiving encrypted email. Set up (I volunteer to figure out the software scripting if people are interested in using it) a clone of lne. Boy, has lne eliminated 99% of the crap that the other nodes get. Anyway, a clone that accepts only encrypted submissions, and sends encrypted output. Purely for slinging more encrypted traffic around, obviously. Just on principle. The encrypted list software might be useful to other people. Okay, to get back to the subject: an explanation on how to release these tools anonymously. Document why it is necessary. It's not the reverse engineering that needs to be moved to foreign outposts. Perhaps describe some methodologies for selling it anonymously. ---- Blacky wrote: # # I'd be interested in talking to cypherpunks who actually would # like to do something activist about eliminating this legislative # scourge and hopefully doing something a bit more substantial # than EFF or CPSR has been doing on the subject. That takes voters, right? We don't lob money, right? Maybe one of those "reach out to three others..." sequences, with an URL to tie everyone together to alerts to write letters. We'd provide a letter template for each alert that they could edit on our site, create a PDF or WWW page output for them to print and actually send in. Many places don't seem to react to email. ---- What was that Kurt Vonnegut book/movie (Jerry Lewis): Slapstick. Maybe we should start a movement of people who all change/set legally their middle name to 'Privacy'. Damn straight.

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