July 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

The Story of the "8" in Jennifer 8. Lee
by Matthew Gaylor 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Several people asked me why New York Times reporter Jennifer 8. Lee had an "8" as her middle initial when I sent her story on Seth Finkelstein at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/19/technology/circuits/19HACK.html. I didn't know so I asked Seth and here is the answer.]

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Inferno: Fw: [free-sklyarov] bay area sign-making party on Sunday (fwd)
by Jim Choate 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:47:37 -0400 From: Any Mouse Subject: Inferno: Fw: [free-sklyarov] bay area sign-making party on Sunday ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Fabrikant" <alexf(a)hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu> To: <free-sklyarov(a)zork.net> Cc: <victor(a)blacksheep.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:36 PM Subject: [free-sklyarov] bay area sign-making party on Sunday > Some Berkeley people will be gathering on Sunday at about 4pm to make > signs, and "miscellaneous props", for the Monday protest in San Jose. > Anyone in the area is welcome to join us. The location is in the Wozniak > Lounge of Soda Hall on the UC Berkeley Campus. > > Bring your own materials, tools, and cool ideas (and certainly feel free > to bring extra stuff). We plan on being there until about 8pm. > > Directions to Soda Hall can be found at > http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Campus/Directions/#soda. It's a big ugly > greenish building at the intersection of Hearst and Le Roy. You'll need to > approach the building from the Le Roy Ave side, and enter from the back > (from the patio above the volleyball court). > > Please drop me an email if you're planning on attending, just so I know > how many people to expect. > > This event is officially under the aegis of the Berkeley CSUA (Computer > Science Undergraduate Association). > > -- > Alex Fabrikant > alexf at {csua,hkn}.berkeley.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > free-sklyarov mailing list > free-sklyarov(a)zork.net > http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov

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RE: Killing the G8 Anarchists (fwd)
by Jim Choate 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

I assume from the tone that Msr. Sandfort meant to send it to the list... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:53:52 -0700 From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort(a)mindspring.com> To: Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: RE: Killing the G8 Anarchists Inchoate sputtered: > ...The real reason they're not > sensitive to these particular > 'anarchist' is that they aren't > motivated by the alure of money. > They aspire to a higher calling > than crass commercialism or > puritanical ego fulfillment... Oh boy! If Jim REALLY believes this crap (where does he get this stuff?), I have some great seaside property in Florida, I think he should invest in. ;-D "Save the whales." (We'll eat them later.) S a n d y

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by Roger L. Martin 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

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RE: Killing the G8 Anarchists
by Faustine 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

Someone behind a remailer wrote: >You stupid american fuck, So it's an insult to be American, is it? Who's being bigoted now. If you really have something interesting to contribute, why not bypass the namecalling and stick to the issues. > ownership is very relative term and enforced by guns, like you are owned >by state of california and USG at the same time, and you do complain about >that, don't you? Huh? Speaking for myself, I'm not "owned" by anyone. I obey state and federal laws though, if that's what you mean. You don't need a gun to enforce ownership, what do you think contract and property law is all about. Sometimes words or a fist do just as well... What any of this has to do with supporting the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms is totally unclear. By the way, why don't you think people have a right to defend their own lives and property? When I'm attacked, why shouldn't I fight back? A nation state that adopted a foreign policy based on "turning the other cheek" wouldn't last a month. So why should I as an individual citizen? Nobody said you have to relish the idea of mowing people down to believe in the principle of defending yourself. In fact, I don't think it's going too far to say that if you don't take reasonable measures to provide for your own safety, you're a contemptible fool and a coward. What would you do in a situation where no one from the state is around to help you? Run? Pray? Roll over and die? If you can't or won't defend yourself, those are about the only options you'll have. In my case, I'm lucky enough to be able to decide that "providing for my own safety" doesn't involve owning a gun at all. But who am I to make that decision for anyone else? Who are you? >You really whine only because you are not on top - Define "on top". No matter where you are intellectually or financially, the botttom line is that you deserve to defend yourself when people are trying to harm you. >you do not really have problem with those below you (I understand you live >on a farm .. must have some pigs there) suffering because they don't have >guns. Define "below". Let's see, who's "below" me, criminals? I think criminals realize better than most the advantages of superior firepower. So why not wake up, take the hint, and quit living like a lamb waiting for the slaughter. But go ahead, it's entirely your choice. ~Faustine.

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Antigen found W32/Sircam-A (Sophos) virus
by ANTIGEN_BAMBI 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

Antigen for Exchange found prince and the pauper.doc.pif infected with W32/Sircam-A (Sophos) virus. The file is currently Removed. The message, "CDR: prince and the pauper", was sent from Jeff and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound located at Cognex/Natick/BAMBI.

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RE: Killing the G8 Anarchists
by Sandy Sandfort 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

Inchoate sputtered: > ...The real reason they're not > sensitive to these particular > 'anarchist' is that they aren't > motivated by the alure of money. > They aspire to a higher calling > than crass commercialism or > puritanical ego fulfillment... Oh boy! If Jim REALLY believes this crap (where does he get this stuff?), I have some great seaside property in Florida, I think he should invest in. ;-D "Save the whales." (We'll eat them later.) S a n d y

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VAS pension
by John Ross 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

I get $475 per month VA pension........What are the terms..... Thank You none

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Re: WHAT THE SWISS HAVE
by Gabriel Rocha 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

"Shoot twice" - the caption on a Swiss postcard of 1914, depicting a Swiss militia man being asked by the Kaiser what the Swiss would do if he sent an army of half a million Germans against the quarter million Swiss Army. I like the attitude though. -- "It's not brave, if you're not scared."

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Re: What the Swiss have
by George＠Orwellian.Org 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

Sandman wrote: # # I'm not sure where George's "here" is... New York City, Third Planet From the Sun.

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