July 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Spy vs Spy (US vs EU)
by Aimee Farr 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

Trei wrote: > [IRNA is the Islamic Republic News Agency > (ie, Iranian). Adjust your predjudices > appropriately.] > > The solution to European worries over Echelon is > (wait for it!) more spies! Their standard answer. > Note that one of this article's base assumptions > is that Echelon is primarily used for economic > espionage. It would be interesting to > find European takes on this issue. Indeed. European takes on the privatization of intelligence agencies are quite illuminating. ~Aimee > > Peter Trei > > ----------------------------------------- > http://www.irna.com/newshtm/eng/14193114.htm > > thr 073 > EU-Spy /WRD/ > MP announces plans for a European intelligence service > Berlin, July 5, IRNA -- The European Union plans to create a European > intelligence service, in an effort to counter the American economic > espionage program 'Echelon', a deputy of the European Parliament was > quoted saying Thursday in the German daily junge Welt. > The German member of the European Parliament, Ilka Schroeder of > the Green Party, referred to the latest report by the espionage > committee, calling for the formation of a European intelligence > service to protect European industries against US espionage. > "It's hypocritical for the parliament to criticize the US Echelon > surveillance techniques, while there are plans in work to promote > a European secret service," Schroeder blasted the latest initiative. > A recent report by a European parliamentary committee confirmed the > existence of a controversial worldwide espionage network 'Echelon' > which has caused between Dlrs 13 and 145 billion in financial > damages to European companies. > The study, presenting evidence that intelligence services from > the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Great Britain are part > of 'Echelon', called on European firms to guard themselves from this > ultra-modern form of economic espionage. > The United States had in the past repeatedly denied the existence > of 'Echelon' which is reportedly capable of eavesdropping on every > single telephone call, radio transmission, fax or e-mail message > around the world. > US officials had refused to meet with a visiting European > parliamentary delegation a few weeks ago, wanting information on > 'Echelon'. > A member of the EU parliamentary committee, Gerhard Schmid said the > evidence, consisting of photos, statements by intelligence officials > working on the project and the results of internet research-proved > conclusively and without a doubt that this was in fact the case. > "Companies outside Europe getting hold of this information might > gain huge advantages," Schmid added. > The study suggested advanced coding techniques for companies when > transmitting confidential messages. > Schmid also referred to the close cooperation between the > intelligence services of the US and EU member Great Britain, saying it > might have serious repercussions for the EU's common foreign and > security policies if the issue was not discussed. > The worldwide espionage installations of 'Echelon', were created > in 1947 and initially used for military purposes. > OT/MHJ/JH > END > ::irna 19:31

1 0

RE: Dot-commers to blame for anti-capitalist violence, says WTO
by Trei, Peter 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

> From: Jim Choate[SMTP:ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com] > Subject: The Register - Dot-commers to blame for anti-capitalist > violence, says WTO > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20242.html > -- > This one is actually worth looking at, so I'm going to do what Jim lacks the ability, intelligence, manners, social grace, and common decency to do: post a nicely formatted copy of the refered article (its short). Note what the Internet means to the WTO maximum leader. Peter Trei ----------------------------- Dot-commers to blame for anti-capitalist violence, says WTO boss By Andrew Orlowski Posted: 06/07/2001 at 22:12 GMT "Dot com types" are to blame for the violence at recent gatherings of the World Trade Organisation, according to WTO director general Mike Moore. Moore made his remarks in Geneva, in an appeal for citizens groups (NGOs) to distance themselves from "masked stone-throwers who claim to want more transparency, anti-globalization dot.com-types who trot out slogans that are trite, shallow and superficial," he said. Which came as news to us. We thought "dot com" types were too busy braying into mobile phones and snorting enormous quantities of Bolivian marching powder as they vandalised a communication infrastructure created at great public expense for research purposes, with marketing plans that would get a six year old suspended from kindergarten for frivolity. They'd certainly be the last group we'd suspect of complaining about capitalism. "Critics, who are not all mad or bad, frequently say we have too much power," Moore conceded generously. Moore then went on to propose a contract demanding "transparency from NGOs as to their membership, their finances, their rules of decision-making," which most citizens groups will find deliciously ironic. Alas, we suspect, he was being serious. A full text of Moore's speech can be found here http://www.wto.org/english/news_e/spmm_e/spmm67_e.htm

1 0

The Register - Dot-commers to blame for anti-capitalist violence, says WTO
by Jim Choate 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20242.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. Ludwig Wittgenstein The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

CNN.com - Bush proposal would cover fetuses - July 6, 2001
by Jim Choate 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/bush.fetus/index.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. Ludwig Wittgenstein The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

THE RAGAS REPORT - Learning Real Lessons From the eFront
by The RagasReport 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

"Now Read by Over 25,000 Next Economy Architects Weekly" Friday, July 6, 2001 By Editor: Matt Ragas IN THIS ISSUE============================================== ENTER TO WIN A FREE PALM VIIx! - www.LessonseFront.com Download the free Introduction to Lessons From the eFront, the new e-business battle guide by RagasReport editor Matt Ragas and enter to win a free Palm VIIx handheld. It's the book that no Next Economy leader should be without! Learn the secrets to e-business success now by visiting and sharing the link below: http://www.lessonsefront.com/webpage/download.htm THIS WEEK'S COMMENTARY===================================== An Insider's Look at the Next Economy Editor's Note: I hope that everyone had a great 4th of July with their families. Due to the holiday shortened week, the RagasReport decided to take a short nap this week and enjoy some of the beautiful sunshine here in Florida. Of course, the report will return next Friday with its regular dose of insider commentary and analysis of the tech sector. In the meantime, I thought I'd share with you some of the great endorsements that my new book - Lessons From the eFront - has recently received. Don't forget to visit the new website for Lessons From the eFront and enter to win a FREE Palm VIIx handheld. You can also download the Introduction to the book from the site. The future is now. The Next Economy is now - read about it! Buzz About Lessons From the E-Front "During a time when plenty of painful lessons are being learned, Lessons from the E-Front could become a battle guide for the walking wounded. It's a must-read for anyone who wants to profit from tech veterans' wins and losses." -Thom Calandra, Editor-in-Chief, CBS MarketWatch "A great book for people in the trenches." -Guy Kawasaki, CEO, Garage.com, and author of Rules for Revolutionaries "Matt Ragas captures the entrepreneurial spirit with real-life lessons and stories, but without the jargon and grand academic theory. His insightful analysis cuts to the core of running a business in a time of rapid technological change and market volatility." -Bill Martin, Founder, Raging Bull Inc. "Valuable reading for all would-be entrepreneurs as well as seasoned veterans." -David Bohnett, Founder, GeoCities "An excellent guide for entrepreneurs, full of thoughtful pragmatism." -Gary Rieschel, Executive Managing Director, Softbank Venture Capital "Reading Lessons from the E-Front won't make you rich, but it might help you figure out the next step. At the very least, you'll get a glimpse into the minds of ecommerce pioneers-the ones destined to make it and the ones with the arrows in their backs." -Larry Magid, Syndicated Columnist, Los Angeles Times "No longer will a cool idea and a PowerPoint presentation be enough to get your business off the ground. If you want to build a real business that lasts, read this book." -Tom Taulli, Internet Stock Analyst, Internet.com "The dot-com boom may be over, but the lessons from it endure. Lessons from the E-Front is full of valuable advice. Anybody looking to start a company should read this book." -Andy Wang, founder, Ironminds.com, and features editor, GEAR magazine "Anyone who thinks high-tech business operates on a wing and a prayer, with glib leaders and ephemeral business plans, will be enlightened by this book. Open it to any page, and you're certain to glean a diamond-cut nugget of hard-won insight." -Brad Hill, author of thirteen books including - Getting Started in Online Personal Finance "Matt Ragas was one of the first investment writers to realize that the New Economy is about more than just technology -- it's about how companies use technology, whatever their business." -Spencer Reiss, Vice President - Gilder Publishing and Editor of New Economy Watch p.s. Free is good, right? Well, then take the next thirty seconds or so to visit the website for Lessons From the eFront and enter to win a FREE PalmVIIx at: http://www.lessonsefront.com *********************************************************** Please feel free to share this free newsletter with a friend or colleague! Pass it on! Sign up instructions are below! *********************************************************** SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION: Share this report with your friends, associates and colleagues. The subscription to the report is always FREE so pass it on or signup below! TO SUBSCRIBE - Please sign-up by visiting: http://www.ragasreport.com and entering your email. TO UNSUBSCRIBE- Please click on the unsubscribe link that can be found at the end of this report. =========================================================== FOR ADVERTISING INFORMATION - Want to reach the movers and shakers of Web St. and Wall St. all in one place? Thousands of Next Economy leaders read our report weekly. Get your marketing message in front of leaders- not followers! For advertising information please contact: AdRates(a)RagasReport.com. Comments? Questions? Agree or disagree with our ramblings? In dire need of real e-strategy services? Email Matt Ragas (matt(a)ragasreport.com) President and Chief Analyst, Matthew Ragas & Associates. About Matthew W. Ragas: Ragas is President and Chief Analyst of Matthew Ragas & Associates, an Orlando, FL based strategic advisory and venture development firm. He was previously the founding editor of Raging Bull and is the author of the new e-business book Lessons From the E-Front from Prima Publishing. Disclaimer: Matthew Ragas & Associates and The Ragas Report is not a registered Investment Adviser or a Broker/Dealer. Readers are advised that the report is issued solely for informational purposes and is not to be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy. The opinions and analyses included herein are based from sources believed to be reliable and written in good faith, but no representation or warranty, expressed or implied is made as to their accuracy, completeness or correctness. Owners, employees and writers may have positions in the securities that are discussed in the newsletter. Please note that we are taking no compensation of any kind and will never take any compensation from any companies that we mention in this report. Copyright(c) 2000-2001, Matthew Ragas & Associates. (http://www.ragasreport.com) All Rights Reserved. _______________________________________________________________________ Powered by List Builder To unsubscribe follow the link: http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/manage/subscriberprefs?customerid=7979&subid=4693…

1 0

SWEATY CUNTS
by moneyman＠aol.com 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

YOUNG BALD PUSSIES.YOUNG BALD PUSSIES.YOUNG BALD PUSSIES THESE LITTLE TEEN SLUTS WILL DO ANYTHING 4 COCK!! "PLEASE FUCK MY ASS. I LOVE YOUR HOT ROD UP MY ASS.THATS IT BLOW BABY BLOW,ALL OVER MY FACE YES!YES!" SO 4 THE HIGHEST QUALITY PICS AND VIDEO FEEDS GO TO: http://www.geocities.com/xxxeasyteens ################################################################### HOT ASIAN PUSSY NOW. HOT ASIAN PUSSY NOW. HOT ASIAN PUSSY NOW. 4 THE HOTTEST XXX ASIAN/ORIENTAL ANAL FUCKING, COCK SUCKING, CUM SWALLOWING, DOWN RIGHT MIND BLOWING ASIAN PORN SITE EVER TO BE RELEASED GO TO : http://www.geocities.com/xxxorientalsluts ################################################################### GAY TRANNY BISEXUAL.GAY TRANNY BISEXUAL.GAY TRANNY BISEXUAL SICK OF POOR QUALITY HALF ASS GAY SITES?WELL LOOK NO FURTHER OUR BOYS ARE THE BEST IN THS WORLD.THESE YOUNG BOYS OOZE SEX APPEAL.THOUSANDS OF HOT SWEATY GUYS ARE JUST A CLICK AWAY JOIN THE PARTY AND CUM TO : http://www.geocities.com/xxxgayboys ################################################################### TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR MAILING LIST GO TO: http://www.geocities.com/xxcancelxx

1 0

RE: Tampa using cameras to scan for wanted faces--
by Trei, Peter 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

> From: petro[SMTP:petro@bounty.org] > > Mr. May: > > >One of the interesting things is that _ear shape_ is one of the best > >correlation features. > > Hmmm... > > Maybe it's time to market a line of Privacy Ear Jewelry. > Shouldn't be hard with a couple piercing here, and some funny lumps > there to distort the profile enough. > Or just return to 70's hair styles. Peter Trei

2 1

RE: Most of a nation on probation?
by petro 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

>On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, petro pulled this right out of his ass... > >> The disparity in numbers is largely due to the way we treat >> the mentally ill. "They" (Russia, and most of europe) don't count the >> numbers of people forcebly institutionalized for "mental illness" as >> part of their prisoner counts, and here in the US the government >> *usually* doesn't forcibly institutionalize someone until after >> they've committed a crime, or at least been convicted of a crime of >> some sort, whether it really should be a crime. > >Total, unequivocal bullshit. You have anything to back up these absurd >statements? > >(1) "Forcibly institutionalized" patients are *NOT* [legally] "prisoners", >and therefore are not included in prisoner counts. Obviously, this >statement excludes those persons committed to institutions by a court as >"unfit to stand trial" - a microscopic percentage of the >"patient" population in the U.S. > >(2) The "2-P.C." [2 Psychiatrist Committal] laws do NOT apply to someone >*after* they have committed a crime. After they commit a crime, they are >under the jurisdiction of a *court*, and they are no longer patients (and >only _patients_ get 2-P.C.'d). > Funny, you are accusing me of saying pretty much what you just said. Hmmm... Let me try to repeat myself is a way you might be able to understand it. In this country we *DO NOT INSTUTIONALIZE* many of our "mentally ill" like they do in other countries (Russia, Europe) Nor do we count those who are as "prisoners" (which many other countries do). What happens then is that a *significant number* of these mentally ill people commit crimes *FOR WHICH THEY ARE LOCKED UP AS CRIMINALS*. In otherwords, the numbers are skewed because we tend not to institutionalize people until the actually *DO* something (even if that something is "self-medicating" using non-prescription drugs) that violates the law. >(3) The 2.P.C. laws are in EVERY state specifically allow for, and in >fact, REQUIRE, that a person be involuntarily committed if "they present >an immenent danger to themselves or others". This is clearly not the same >as "have committed a crime". And those committals are often of a very short nature--most often 72 hours being the limit w/out an inquiry, usually leading to some sort of outpatient care (at least in the time I worked for a hospital with a large government funded mental institution attached), which puts the person back out on the street where they take their meds, or not, leading to... The claim I am making is simply that comparing criminal incarceration rates across countries is not valid unless you account for many other factors, such as (in this case) the way those societies/cultures deal with their mentally ill. We deal with ours by *giving them* the choice (modulo "imminent danger to themselves or others") of getting treatment or not, and if they choose not and break the law they are criminals and are dealt with accordingly. Many other countries don't give the mentally ill person the latitude of that choice. > First you claim that "nobody has ever survived a shot to the head >with a .32", and now *this* -- Where do you get this shit from??? My information is from some who has a professional interest in prison systems, and has studied them at length, as well as a bit of reading on my own. -- http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person so afflicted is incapable of knowing that he is incompetent. To have such knowledge would already be to remedy a good portion of the offense.

1 1

Attention Adult Webmasters!!!
by dialermania＠terra.es 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

1 0

- SAVE BIG BUCKS!!!$$
by Founder 06 Jul '01

06 Jul '01

Are you Ready for UNLIMIED LONG DISTANCE all for one low monthly flat rate!! Do all your 3 way calls! Call all over and speak for as long as you like! No more worrying about that BILL! Get FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE TODAY!! -For Details send an email to mybigcheck(a)yahoo.com and put "FLAT RATE" in the subject heading. To stop additional follow up messages click below: http://www.aweber.com/r.php?i=hotfreshleads&e=cypherpunks%40ssz.com

1 0