June 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

the immaculate conception
by bpayne37＠home.com 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

http://www.nmol.com/users/billp/ed.htm

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Slashdot | Senator Says Spammers Have First-Amendment Rights
by Jim Choate 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/06/21/1614201.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. Ludwig Wittgenstein The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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USA Today as DoD cyber-war propaganda mouthpiece
by Steve Schear 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

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Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?
by George＠Orwellian.Org 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Wobbly Ride wrote: # That's true. However, in order to read data from a DVD, you # must first "authenticate" to the DVD player. This is before # any decryption takes place. This is a cryptographic handshake # mechanism using a key. If you do not perform this handshake, # it is not possible to read the data. Are these DVD controller chips specially contructed like a clipper chip, or can they be reverse engineered? Sonce the decryption key is known, why can't someone burn a more user-friendly chip? (per manufacturer)

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21 Jun '01

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Re: Critiques of Libertarianism
by David Honig 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

At 04:47 PM 6/21/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: >On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 a3495(a)cotse.com wrote: > >> "This diversity of libertarian viewpoints can make it quite difficult to >> have a coherent discussion with them, because an argument that is valid for >> or against one type of libertarianism may not apply to other types." >> (not having followed this thread) Rand had a similar criticism of libs, they being not explicitly principled (unlike her own system) but agreeing on (political) end results similar to her own. A largely objectivist libertarian, dh

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RE: Slashdot | Phoenix BIOS Phones Home?
by Trei, Peter 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Jim: You really don't have a good memory, do you? We dealt with this topic just 3 weeks ago. Check for the thread 'BIOS Spying' around June 1. At that time I said: --------------- Looking at this, there appears to be smoke without fire. It looks like they don't gather much in the way of data unless you download and install software via phoenixnet. At worst, it's going to reset your homepage once, and you'll pop onto it the first time you start your browser. It's not even clear that this happens without asking. What we really have here is Phoenix abusing it's power over BIOS content to pre-install an app without asking you. Barring further evidence of nefarious activity, we've all got much worse stuff to worry about. The operative quote for this list may be: "The question is not 'Are you paranoid?'. Its: 'Are you paranoid enough?'" (Cadigan). That doesn't mean, however, that it's impossible to be to be *too* paranoid. Peter Trei --------------- To further expliain, this is no worse than Netscape or IE starting with their default home pages. Also, if you to install a non-Microsoft OS, the canned app in the BIOS can do absolutely nothing. > ---------- > From: Jim Choate[SMTP:ravage@einstein.ssz.com] > > http://slashdot.org/yro/01/06/19/2039216.shtml > -- > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Peter Trei

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RE: Slashdot | Phoenix BIOS Phones Home?
by Paul E. Robichaux 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Well, where I come from this is useful functionality! In combination with a feature called RIS (remote installation service) in Windows 2000, you can create a library of canned machine images and blast them out to machines over the network. One of our major customers has cut the time necessary to replace a failed machine down to about 15 minutes: plug in the new machine, hit F12 during boot to trigger PXE, lay down the image received from the RIS server, user logs in, and voila! As much as you & I may not like it, in many corporate environments the computer should be no more personalized than the telephone. No one gets emotionally attached to their telephone, and replacing it is a trivial affair-- all the speed dial numbers, voice mail, and so on is stored in a central box. So it is becoming with PCs. As a side note, none of this is even remotely new. Microsoft & Intel, plus their partners, have been pushing variations of this theme for almost 10 years now. My favorite feature is the one that sends a network yell for help via SNMP when someone opens the lid on a machine. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Dillinger [mailto:bear@sonic.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:52 AM > Cc: cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com > Subject: RE: Slashdot | Phoenix BIOS Phones Home? > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > >To further expliain, this is no worse than Netscape or IE > >starting with their default home pages. Also, if you to > >install a non-Microsoft OS, the canned app in the BIOS > >can do absolutely nothing. > > This is not quite true. Search on their site for the acronym > "PXE" -- it stands for "Preboot eXtension Environment". > > I went and hunted on Pheonix's website and came across some > interesting things: Aside from the preboot extension environment, > which allows apps made by pheonix to run on your hardware before > an operating system loads or in the absence of a functioning > OS, there is a remote-boot facility, a capability for remote > lockout of input from the local user, acess to the machine > hardware (including disks, by physical sector and track > addressing), etc. They claim it's part of an "Intel's > initiative" to make machines "Universally Manageable and > Universally Managed." > > Most of this crap appears to require access to the local ethernet > to perform -- it's not a TCP/IP issue until someone uses TCP/IP > to subvert another machine on the same local ethernet segment - > but from there it looks like they can pretty much do whatever > the hell they want with a machine, including remotely flashing > the BIOS with new applications for the preboot environment - > meaning if they figure out that you're running linux filesystems, > they can just change their sector accesses to compensate and get > into your files with a preboot extension. Slick, huh? Or they > can remotely install an operating system of their choice over > the network. > > Relevant search phrases to turn up a lot of scary shit: > "Universally manageable and Universally managed". > "Wired for Management" > > > The particular URL that I'm taking this particular paranoia trip > on: (It's a pretty long document, look toward the bottom) > > http://www.phoenix.com/PlatSS/pcplatforms/desktop/PBfeatures.pdf > > Got a new system with a pheonix BIOS? Congratulations!! Your > machine may be among the "universally manageable and universally > managed." Isn't that special? > > Bear

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RE: Don't report getting squirted by a kid, go to jail.
by Paul E. Robichaux 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

First hint: there's no notfauna.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Beets [mailto:Jon.Beets@pacer.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:41 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > Subject: Re: Don't report getting squirted by a kid, go to jail. > > I went to that link and read the entire article and I have some real > doubts > to its accuracy.... > > Jon Beets > Pacer Communications

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