March 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

You have no idea
by Nomen Nescio 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- aimee.farr(a)pobox.com (Aimee Elizabeth Farr) recited: >Of course, you have all watched this battle for many years, so you >have a longevity of insight that I don't have. Probably just the >same-ole-same-ole to you... Believe me, you have NO idea. Then, aimee.farr(a)pobox.com (Aimee Elizabeth Farr) recited: >I can't figure out if you're irked by amateurish elicitation >tactics, or if you're trying to give me lessons in how to do better. I think you can probably figure it out. Ah, I remember the days when I was wet behind the ears on this list. The collision between the law and cypherpunks certainly creates an interesting reaction. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.1 iQEVAwUBOp17Oy1onm9OaF05AQHKZQgAiyNUYn7M9AW71MFXk6wE3fEOWoWi0Mdk urAZq0EypCrlh94lBc9CPshY3ZDFOTYhzykMT9fa9OnlkwU3L9J4f7gFtI7VAFxF CxxWoc7XAMXlNd0OrXYIebK7OAb0LFVK/f/xs3yfwqkPMTj/N3uWJNB/E2JXTMu+ lcXxFzRUQ13gMuo123jq951iAeIUUzL96kyYWnuGhxsewaK8evWW4Iuy2ikGvZL3 H75UuwWtNAmHci++N3t8YedkuOHUj28cdsxpDT3tPTlhk88hd+peVhTsrt5wOnEF gGz7FeXX6JXfNLWk23ErpRUe5OhI0xnm4uhdlM9dx3E618VbXkd9VA== =DCYR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ebay restricting DVD player sales -RIAA tentacles
by Blank Frank 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

The company [EBay] also has instituted a policy to prohibit the sale of anything recorded on a blank compact disc, and it stops sales of certain types of DVD players and gaming equipment that can be used with illegally copied media. http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001-02-28-ebay.htm The RIAA must have some very scary lawyers.

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AUSA Threatens 60 Minutes in Bell Case
by John Young 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

From: http://cryptome.org/jdb-doj-cbs.htm "An Assistant US Attorney in Seattle has threatened a CBS 60 Minutes reporter who is investigating the prosecution of James Dalton Bell in Western Washington District Court, warning the reporter that a subpoena will be issued for his information if he continues to investigate the case and its broader ramifications. According to a confidential source, AUSA Robb London, the prosecutor of the Bell case, warned 60 Minutes reporter Adam Ciralsky that a subpoena would be issued to Ciralsky for information about persons he had spoken to about the case and what he had learned if Ciralsky continued with his investigation."

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Links for RE: Independent Institute Response To Phillip Hallam-Baker ("network externality")
by Matthew Gaylor 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

For your convenience, here again are a few links that might be of interest to you: http://independent.org/tii/content/briefs/BriefWLMS.html http://www.independent.org/tii/content/pubs/review/TIR32_mck_shug.html http://www.independent.org/tii/content/events/microsoft_rt_transcript.html http://www.independent.org/tii/content/events/tech_innovat_rt_transcript.ht… http://www.independent.org/tii/WorkingPapers/Code.html Also as David Theroux <DTheroux(a)independent.org>, noted, Liebowitz and Margolis's scholarly articles can be found in the Journal of Economic Perspectives; Journal of Law, Economics and Organizations; Harvard Journal of Law and Technology; Journal of Law and Economics; New Palgrave Dictionary of Economics and the Law; Encyclopedia of Law and Economics; and elsewhere, or more conveniently in their seminal book, WINNERS, LOSERS & MICROSOFT: http://www.independent.org/tii/catalog/cat_WLMS.html In addition, more popular articles by them have appeared in Upside, Christian Science Monitor, Wall Street Journal, San Francisco Chronicle, Reason, etc. Some of these are available on The Independent Institute's web site at the following: http://www.independent.org/archive/technology.html http://www.independent.org/archive/antitrust.html So, again, the arguments are in these links. Once you have read them, please let David Theroux <DTheroux(a)independent.org> know how and why you differ. Incidentally, The Independent Institute's advisory board (http://www.independent.org/tii/tii_info/advisors.html) has included Nobel Laureates in economics as well as many who are on the short list for such a Prize. By the way, the 240 economists who signed The Independent Institute's Open Letter on Antitrust Protectionism (http://www.independent.org/tii/news/open_letter.html ) did not "deny the existence of network effects," and if you would simply read the letter itself, you would see this. In fact, the words, "network effects," do not even appear in the Open Letter! Furthermore, the Open Letter was not only about the Microsoft case, but as is stated, it was about "Headline-grabbing cases against Microsoft, Intel, Cisco Systems, Visa and MasterCard, along with a flurry of merger investigations now under way." The issue is about "path dependence" theory, not "network effects!" Regards, Matt- ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, 2175 Bayfield Drive, Columbus, OH 43229 (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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Re: If the SC isn't fooled by the technology (fwd)
by Jim Choate 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Sure it does Declan, because you don't get the catch doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Bottem line if a 'technology' standard is found wanting with respect to the 4th then extension to the 1st isn't a big jump. If you can't equate speech-crypto with search-ir oh well. But you're a journalist so it's not surprising you don't get it, you have a hard enough time getting quotes correct. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:12:14 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> Cc: cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com, The Club Inferno <hell(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Re: CDR: If the SC isn't fooled by the technology On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 06:22:15PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > > With respect to the current SC deliberation on the use of IR devices and > unwarranted searches, if they find that the technology is not relevant > then crypto and many other limitations will fall as well. This statement makes no sense. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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update.528 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:35:36 -0500 (EST) From: AIP listserver <physnews(a)aip.org> To: physnews-mailing(a)aip.org Subject: update.528 PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News Number 528 March 1, 2001 by Phillip F. Schewe, Ben Stein, and James Riordon SWITCHABLE X-RAY STORAGE. Recently we reported on two experiments at Harvard (Update 521) in which a light signal enters a volume of gas where, under the action of an additional control laser beam, it is greatly slowed; in fact, as the signal slows down to zero the light energy is coherently converted into a collective excitation of the spins of the atoms in the gas. Later the light signal can be resurrected and sent on its way. It has come to our attention that something like this, only in a nuclear system, was reported in an article some four years ago (Shvyd'ko et al., Physical Review Letters, 7 October 1996). In the earlier experiment, conducted at HASYLAB (DESY) in Hamburg (contact Yuri Shvyd'ko, University of Hamburg, 49-40- 8998-2200, yuri.shvydko(a)desy.de) the incoming light consists of x rays, and the receiving medium is an ensemble of iron-57 nuclei, ensconced in a FeBO3 crystal. All 10^18 iron nuclei in the 20- micron-thick sample interact collectively in a single "nuclear exciton" state with each new incoming x-ray photon. As APS Editor-in-Chief Martin Blume (631-591-4000) points out, such a "solid-state nuclear physics" effect is well known also under the name of coherent nuclear resonant scattering. By abrupt switching of a weak (60 Gauss) external magnetic field, the nuclear exciton can be manipulated in such a way that its decay is prohibited. In this way the x rays are stored, and can be released on demand by reversing the magnetic switching. The released light signal is coherent with the incoming one. The coherence of quantum information transfer is perfectly preserved. Put differently, one can say that in the Harvard experiments the atoms, behaving like tiny electric dipoles, converted the incoming light into a coherent excitation of atomic spins (a polariton), whereas in the HASYLAB experiment the iron nuclei, behaving like tiny magnetic dipoles, converted the incoming x rays into a coherent nuclear excitation spread over the whole crystal (a nuclear exciton). As in the Harvard experiments, the pent-up electromagnetic energy stored in the system can be released (and sent moving in its original direction) by the flip of a switch, in this case by adjusting the external magnetic field direction. A SHARP GAMMA-RAY HOLOGRAM, with atomic-scale [SSZ: Text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Get that competitive edge you need!
by competetive＠organic.medicine 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

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Filtering CDR open
by Eric Murray 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

I've set up a new CDR that filters posts to it's subscribers- only posts from subscribers to other CDRs or known remailers (or subscriber's alternate addresses) will go to lne.com CDR subscribers. Here's the list welcome message, which explains how it works in more detail. We're not connected to all the CDRs yet but as far as I can tell we're not missing any posts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the lne.com Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer This is welcome message v1.0, dated 2/22/01 Cypherpunks is a list for discussing cryptography and its impact on society. It is not a moderated list. The list operators are not responsible for the list contents. See the following pages for cypherpunks info: Background/general explanation: http://world.std.com/~franl/crypto/cypherpunks.html (read the two Manifestos-- Eric Hughes' and Tim May's-- for good background material). http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr Physical meetings: http://www.cryptorights.org/cypherpunks/meetingpunks.html Cypherpunks list archves: http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks http://cypherpunks.venona.com The Cypherpunks list is run in a distributed fashion. There are a number of Cypherpunks Distributed Remailers which handle distribution of the list. Different CDRs have different policies. http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html explains the CDR system. To unsubscribe from this CDR, send the words "unsubscribe cypherpunks" (without the quotes) in the body of email to majordomo(a)lne.com. If you are subscribed to another CDR, you will have to send your unsubscribe to it. The lne.com CDR is an attempt to reduce the spam that has invaded the cypherpunks list without blocking or delaying non-spam posts. The way we do that is to 1) drop posts which are not from a subscriber to any of the CDRs, and which are not from a known anonymous remailer 2) make an attempt to recognize spam from the contents of the mail message and mark spam as such. These filtering methods affect only cypherpunks mail going to subscribers of cypherpunks(a)lne.com- for example, if someone sends mail to the CDR cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.com, the mail gets passed to all the CDR nodes inluding lne for distribution to subscribers. If the sender isn't a subscriber to any of the CDRs, the lne.com CDR node will not send the message to its subscribers. It will forward the message to the other CDRs however. This also means that as a subscriber to the lne CDR, you may see replies from other CDR suibscribers to posts that you didn't see, because the were from non-subscribers. Posts sent directly to the lne CDR need to be from a subscriber to any of the CDRs (or a known remailer) in order to be accepted and passed on to the other CDRs. I'd prefer to have it send everything along, but that'd require a whole lot of majordomo hacking and it's just not worth it. Some cypherpunks posters post from addresses that are different from the one that they're subscribed with, causing their post to be dropped by lne.com. When this happens, I'll forward their post to cypherpunks(a)lne.com (headers intact) and add their alternate address to the list of posters. I will reserve the right to also delete an address I've added to the list if that address starts sending spam- this is to defeat an attack where the spammer sends a non-spam message to the list to get his address added, and then starts spamming the list. I doubt that I'll have to do this, but I'm mentioning it now in case it does happen. The spam-recognition software in use at lne.com is described at http://www.lne.com/ericm/spammaster. In short, it looks for key phrases in the mail body (like "Dear Friend" and "This is not spam") and assigns points to the different phrases. The spam point total is put in the "X-spam" header added at the end of the mail headers. The mail is still sent to the list. The rating is there for lne.com CDR subscribers to use or not as they please. The spammaster config file that the lne CDR uses is available at http://www.lne.com/cpunk/spamfilter and there is more explanation of the software at http://www.lne.com/ericm/spammaster. Other anti-spam measures: lne.com has a policy of blocking mail from sites that it deems are spam havens. It may also use the MAPS database(s) to block mail from spammers. These measures will affect the posting of mail directly to the lne CDR but will not affect the relaying of mail from the other CDRs. We do not get a feed from the CDR ssz, which is in the MAPS RSS database because it's an open relay. While we don't use the RSS currently, our alternate MX host does. If lne can't accept mail, then it goes to the MX host, which rejects mail from SSZ. Since this creates an ugly mail loop and neither our MX or SSZ are likely to change their policies, we don't get a feed from SSZ. This shouldn't affect CDR distribution though, as we'll get posts that originate from SSZ through the other CDRs. Lne.com runs the input to its CDR list through demime (http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html) which deletes MIME attachments from mail. Demime leaves a note in the attachments place, so that recipients know that there was some cruft there. Lne.com does not archive cypherpunks messages. The Lne.com CDR strips out the "CDR:" tags in the Subject of messages that some other CDRs put in. If you have any questions that aren't answered by this message, send me email. Eric Murray ericm(a)lne.com Appendix: technical details. Here's the deep technical stuff, for those who're interested. Mail from other CDRs is sent to an address at lne.com, where it's processed by procmail. The procmail script checks for bounced mail and for dups, then sends the mail to the other CDRs, excepting the one that sent it. It also sends the mail to cypherpunks(a)lne.com, which is the list, run by majordomo. The list alias processes the mail first through a small script which cleans up the headers (i.e. removing CDR: and Re: Re: from Subject lines) and then passes it to demime. Demime strips out any MIME attachments, leaving a single line in their place to note what was there. Then the message is passed to majordomo itself. The majordomo config is pretty much standard. The allowed-posters list is seperate from the subscribers list, so we can use a list of all CDR subscribers, remailers, etc. Mail sent directly to the lne CDR goes to cypherpunks first, but the local address that runs through procmail is subscribed, so the mail also gets forwarded to the other CDRs. We generate the list of CDR subscribers by requesting a 'who cypherpunks' from each one, once a day. Some CDRs don't allow that command, so for those we ask that they send the list via a cron job. The list is processed along with a locall-maintained list of remailers and alternate addresses to make the list that's used for determing if a post is from a subscriber. The only modifications to Majordomo was a small one to allow wildcards in addresses, so we can allow posts from *(a)remailer.somewhere without having to add each different remailer user's address (for remailers that allow different user ids to show in the From: line). -- Eric Murray Consulting Security Architect SecureDesign LLC http://www.securedesignllc.com PGP keyid:E03F65E5

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MR.ZHU JIAN-JIN Your Falun Gong materials will arrive shortly
by Blank Frank 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

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RE: PADLOCKS AND HARDWARE
by jysjj＠mail.lsptt.zj.cn 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

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