February 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Re: Sealand and Experimental Rocketry
by Jim Windle 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

-- On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:23:22 Declan McCullagh wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +0000, Ken Brown wrote: >> There have been commercial launches from Kenya, and from offshore >> platforms in the Indian Ocean. > >Right. I recall the company is SeaLaunch (I wrote about them once, a >Boeing venture, I believe) and uses an old oil platform they towed there >from the Atlantic. Yes, Boeing is a partner, as is Kraevner a Norweigan company that supplied a refurbished semisubmersible drilling rig. They use Russian Zenit rockets which are loaded on the platform in Long Beach then the launch platform and command and support ships move to equatorial waters for the launch. And you're absolutely right, SeaLand can't support that sort of operation, nor does it provide an equatorial launch site. Jim >SeaLand is not exactly quite as capable. > >-Declan > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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21 Feb '01

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21 Feb '01

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by Jim Choate 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

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21 Feb '01

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by Jim Choate 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

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Re: Sealand and Experimental Rocketry
by Jim Windle 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

-- On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:23:12 Jim Choate wrote: > > >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Ken Brown wrote: > >> WHAT??????????????????????? >> >> It is at about 52 degrees north, IIRC. If you had high-school physics >> you'd see the problem with that. > >Closer to 60 if you actuallly check a map. When did they move the Thames estuary? Sealand's site says they are just north of the Thames estuary which is between 51 and 52 degrees north according to my map. 60 degrees north is the Shetland Islands. >Soluble problem with respect to Lat. There are more issues than simple >launch physics involved here. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a > smaller group must first understand it. > > "Stranger Suns" > George Zebrowski > > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com > www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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RE: Re: Sealand and Experimental Rocketry
by Trei, Peter 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

> ---------- > From: Jim Windle[SMTP:jim_windle@eudoramail.com] > Reply To: Jim Windle > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:53 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com > Subject: CDR: Re: Sealand and Experimental Rocketry > > I think Tim's point was simply that Sealand's location is too far north to > be a good launch site. To put a useful satellite in an orbit with a > useful footprint for this purpose from a launch site so far north would > require a lot lift capacity eliminating small launch systems, raising the > issue of Sealand's ability to support the launch infrastructure. It would > probably also mean launching to the east over highly populated areas in > the EC which would probably object to the launch as well. > -- > See: > http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/report/news/january31/opal-a.html > Launching these amateur sats costs about $50k (http://www.osss.com/) but there are buts Biggest is: You're only getting to LEO - about 500 miles up. Any given LEO satellite is visible from a given spot only for short periods every few days (see any of the sites giving spotting times for the ISS for examples). Thus, the services of a sat are only occasionally available. Getting to geosynchronous orbit is much more expensive, and requires a satellite with much more sensitive antenna and more powerful transmitters (you're about 50x are far away). Even then, you'd need at least 3 sats to get continuous coverage. Rabin's scheme requires (even given the the unobtanium-like nature of a trustworthy third party terabit/s true randomness source) that both Alice and Bob be able to key into the bitstream at the same 'time'. At very least they have to see the same sat at the same time, and even then their different (and changing as the sat moves) distances from the sat make getting crypto sync challenging (to say the least). If we really had a trustworthy 3rd party, there are lots of other more practical protocols we could use. Peter Trei

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