December 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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15 Dec '01

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OSD: Reputations R us
by mattd 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

Rust never sleeps;Reputations by inference,negative inference.As an experiment Id like to ask ya'all to pledge any amount up to 10 $ to predict the retirement from the list of your least fave poster's eg.I, anonymous samoan attorney,pledge 1 $ to see that nasty little weasl guy get his just desserts. AND 1$ to put jamesd out of his misery...and so on,say 4$ each on faustine and nomen. At least as reliable as doling out high ratings and possibly less chance of error.We're often more honest in our visceral hatreds aren't we? These negative ratings would float and give a rough guesstimate for newbies as to the pariahs here. Operation soft drill...we don't just kill people...we vouch for them and guarantee them with RUST. (RusTechnology)

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Re: My week in Madness:Dial P for plagiarist
by mattd 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

That piece was a gonzo rip off of one in one of those 'flick through and flingem',weekend supplements.It had a phat jpg of a DoCoMo style cellphone with a wicked little 'kidnapped' SMS graphic.Reminded me of my assasinphone that ticks over like a jeepney meter with pooled pledges. Thanks greg sheriden,asia hack for rupert murdoch.I jazzed it up a little between sips of long island tea.Murdoch reckons satellites are hazardous to the health of totalitarian regimes,btw.Wonder what he thinks of AP.(1$ anyone?) It pays to get your news from independant media these days,I think.I buy the dead tree versions for tv/computer guides and weekend magazines/lit crits.3 times a week.Mindanao hey? We got a little international terrior conspricy goen here! Whats the position of roe v wade there? Right to choose? I heard Catholic G.Arroyo's opposed to divorce. Shurley som mishtake.

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Florida-Disney World-Mickey Mouse 25669
by p13152＠svizzera.org 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

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The MS DRM Patent and Freedom to Speak and Think
by Seth Johnson 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

In his November 6 essay "You're Free to Think," (http://davenet.userland.com/2001/11/06/youreFreeToThink) Dave Winer comments that whatever else happens in the ongoing, increasing trend towards policing of the public's right to use information and information technology, we are still left with the freedom to *think* for ourselves. He seemed to me to be offering this comment as a bare source of solace against the government's increasing intent to control the prospects of communications technology. Microsoft's favorable treatment of late caused him to wonder what kind of deal Bill Gates must have worked out with the Bush Administration. He wondered what Microsoft might have given the government in return for the highly favorable terms of the settlement that's currently on the table in the court proceedings against the company, for monopoly practices in the operating systems arena. He commented specifically on the current ramifications of Microsoft's increasing position of power in the operating systems market: > Now, they have to get people to upgrade to > Windows XP -- that's the final step, the one that > fully turns over the keys to the Internet to them, > because after XP they can upgrade at will, routing > through Microsoft-owned servers, altering content, > and channeling communication through government > servers. After XP they fully own electronic > communication media, given the consent decree, > assuming it's approved by the court. Now, it has just come to light that Microsoft has been awarded a software "patent" for a "Digital Rights Management" operating system. This development shows us exactly where we stand now. Microsoft doesn't have to offer anything to the government; it has only to hold possession of a patent covering the "DRM" elements of its latest OS, thereby providing an almost absolutely assured trajectory toward establishing the terms by which the public's ability to communicate digital information will be controlled. Please see the message I am posting below, from the CYBERIA email list, which quotes from the patent. The real kicker is right here: > The digital rights management operating system > also limits the functions the user can perform on the > rights-managed data and the trusted application, and > can provide a trusted clock used in place of the > standard computer clock. The ability to use information freely is now going to be policed at the most intricate level, in the name of exclusive rights and to the detriment of the most fundamental Constitutional principles of our society. Whereas the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution assures that every American citizen has the full right to freedom of speech, we see here the ultimate legislative and technical trappings by which the public will be demarcated as mere information consumers. Facts and ideas are not contraband and may never be copyrighted or otherwise constrained under the terms of intellectual "property," whether they are bound up in an expressive work or not; and the computer is a *logic* device that now sits on nearly every citizen's desktop -- it is *not* a consumer appliance. From both the standpoints of speech and thought, so-called digital "rights management" is a utterly desolate *dead end.* Whether we speak of the constituent pieces of expressive works, or the nature of the computer itself, so-called digital "rights management" marks the beginning of a grand rollback of the means by which the promise of our participation in and advancement of civil society have lately been greatly augmented. Rather than facing the simple, plain truth that the power given in the U.S. Constitution for Congress to grant (or deny) to authors and inventors "exclusive right" to their works, was intended to cover products that do not intrinsically bind up the very means of communication and of our participation in civil society, we instead are experiencing a social condition wherein monopoly interests exploit the fluidity of logical products to evade the very terms of antitrust law and to assure that the public's ordinary rights do not gain purchase against their interests. Antitrust law is all about competition in a particular product, but software is as amorphous in its possibilities as our own vaunted power to think. Thus Microsoft easily maintains it is not in the browser market, competing with Netscape; it is, rather, in the market for "innovative operating systems." We are now seeing just how "innovative" that operating system can really be. If we do not confront the ludicrousness of the idea of holding a patent of this nature, and the outrageousness of our courts' failure to confront the truth about what holding market power in the field of informatin products really means, we will soon be free to speak and think -- only so long as we don't use our computers to do it. Thus, in the name of exclusive rights, Microsoft is serving old world publishing interests, acting by means of legal fictions to assure that citizens who seek to further the prospects of information technology, will be inexorably locked into the role of information consumers, blocked from exercising their own tools in full accordance with the rights that our Constitution supposedly guards. We are *all* information producers, whether we manifest this as a routine, inalienable part of the ordinary rights we exercise in our everyday lives, or whether we engage ourselves in the present, increasingly desperate and furtive struggle to guard commercial interests by restricting the use of information delivered in digital form. We have always been information producers, and we must not accede to the interests of those who do not regard the public at large as full and equal citizens, but rather as mere consumers. Seth Johnson Committee for Independent Technology December 14, 2001 Information Producers Initiative: http://RealMeasures.dyndns.org/C-FIT > -------- Original Message -------- > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:18:08 -0800 > From: John Young <jya(a)PIPELINE.COM> > > Microsoft's patent for a Digital Rights Management > Operating System was awarded yesterday: > > http://cryptome.org/ms-drm-os.htm > > Abstract > > A digital rights management operating system protects > rights-managed data, such as downloaded content, from > access by untrusted programs while the data is loaded > into memory or on a page file as a result of the > execution of a trusted application that accesses the > memory. To protect the rights-managed data resident in > memory, the digital rights management operating system > refuses to load an untrusted program into memory while > the trusted application is executing or removes the > data from memory before loading the untrusted program. > If the untrusted program executes at the operating > system level, such as a debugger, the digital rights > management operating system renounces a trusted identity > created for it by the computer processor when the > computer was booted. To protect the rights-managed data > on the page file, the digital rights management > operating system prohibits raw access to the page file, > or erases the data from the page file before allowing > such access. Alternatively, the digital rights > management operating system can encrypt the > rights-managed data prior to writing it to the page > file. The digital rights management operating system > also limits the functions the user can perform on the > rights-managed data and the trusted application, and > can provide a trusted clock used in place of the > standard computer clock. > > ********************************************************************** > For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia > Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot > Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com > **********************************************************************

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: Re: bin Laden tape reliability
by mattd 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

jya>>To mattd, if you've got emit stuff about *illing the *rez, be sure to post a real world contact address for those who want to take you up on it. UBL might want to send a few bucks. This is the real world.Right here,right now.The pile is about to go critical.I hope those warez raids were a warm up. In ancien regime france the body of the king was sacred.A subject that approached to close risked having their skin ripped off in a messy public execution.Theres a detailed description of one in the recent book,"Europe" (a hirstory book) The situationists wanted to extend the concept of the sanctity of louis's person to everyone in france.(no global strategy) Absolutist nonsense like 'protected person/s got the chop in France.It should also in your fair land as I pledge 100 us $ to be pooled with others and paid to the closest guess,made anonymously here or at www.indymedia.org or any no. of BBS that are one step ahead of the donut munching flatfeet.This guess being the closest as to the permanent retirement from politics of one arbusto E Nueman.Greasy oil money is as good as anyones.If UBL chips in he may ease off on the meteorite's,I assume he will want to stay anonymous.As national borders are not even speed bumps Im safe in saying KILLTHEPRESIDENT till the roo's come home even if rick walkinshaw knows where I live.FUCK the SS,FUCK BUSH and FUCK your SHITTY CRAPHOLE KUNTRY.luv you jya and say hi to deb,did she get my note?

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by Bizz4profit＠yahoo.com 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

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Weasls ripped my flesh 2
by mattd 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

>>It's possible that mattd is actually Gary Hart sans charisma. Thanks weasl,thanks a hell of a lot.You just blew me out of the water. Yes I am and I beg the Office of homeland security to immediately begin the crypto-pedo blitz.Its the only way to dampen crypto-anarchy and avoid massive future shock. DO IT TOM,DO IT NOW!

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RE: bin Laden tape reliability
by John Young 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

Also, it is peculiar that almost nobody in the tape looked at the camera, which is hard to do unless trained to do so like actors are, or such looks were removed by editing. It is also possible that the tape was made surreptitiously, though the differing camera angles would have to be done by separate cameras. Bin Laden's bulk appears to change in different shots. >From the side he looks heavier than usual, but from the front about the same stringbean. The side shot might have been due to distortion -- it was closer in than the frontal. If the tape is legitmate, I'd say it probably was made to boost the reputation of the Saudi sheik sitting to bin Laden's left. He is the second-most person featured. Could be bin Laden made an appearance and agreed to the tape for promotion of the Sheik's agenda. Perhaps bin Laden was on a tour himself of a batch of sheiks arranged in adjoining rooms, anointing each, maybe even doing a fund-raiser like our photo-addicted pols. Certainly UBL was behaving identically to politicians out working the crowd, bragging, kidding, kissing, pretending to love the audience, acting as though all of it is not for video outreach. True, politicians send in cut-outs and UBL could have sent his double of which he must have several.

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RE: bin Laden tape reliability
by mattd 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

>>Perhaps, but I'll take the position it's real until more evidence appears to the contrary. Peter Trei Agreed,I too was surprised by the implosions.Long live USAMA BIN LADEN,VIVA! Death to the fascist snakes of...etc. From a previous post by peter trei. >>participation in the list does not imply acceptance of any particular stance, attitude, or agenda towards crypto, stego, or government or lack thereof. The only thing which can really be said about subscribers in general is that they think crypto is >>worth discussing. You might enjoy http://www.viopac.com/ and as Tim said way back round 97,"We'll know we've succeeded when by our direct action we are regarded as terrorists." (rough quote)

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