December 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: fuel injected firearm
by Trei, Peter 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

> Steven Furlong[SMTP:sfurlong@acmenet.net] > > > I did see a GyroJet pistol once. A rocket pistol, firing little > > rockets. Early 60s. Very expensive. And suffered from the fact that > > each little rocket had to accelerate up to speed. Lots of chance for the > > target to move. > > Gyrojet rounds burned out in, IIRC, 20 feet, and they covered that first > 20 feet in a small fraction of a second. I don't think target dodging is > any more of an issue than with conventional bullets. > Another problem with the Gyrojet was accuracy. Since it left the barrel much more slowly than a traditional round, gyroscopic stabilization was at a minimum at the start of the shell's path. A slight wobble at this point would translate into a large deviation at the target. Peter

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Assasinating politics 2
by mattd 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

http://www.libertarian.to/index.html Table Of Contents : June 29 June 2001 Assasination politics. by Jim Bell An interesting proposition ?? Libertarian International's mission is to coordinate various initiatives in the defense of individual liberty throughout the world. Formally, Libertarian International is a non-profit foundation registered in the Netherlands. You can write to us at our snail mail address : P.O. Box 21, 2910 Essen, Belgium Our BANK ACCOUNT, where you can send your contributions is with the RABO BANK, A/C Libertarian International, number 17.43.35.350 We accept payments in E-gold. The E-gold account number of Libertarian International is :102265 If you do not yet have your own E-gold account, find out about it on e-gold.com Libertarian International has little time or need for bureaucracy and hierarchy. Hubert Jongen of the Netherlands is the president; Palle Steen Jensen in Copenhagen, Christian Michel in Geneva and Henrik Bejke are among the founding members, and you are welcome to get in touch with any of them for further information and contacts. Libertarian International's principles are based on libertarianism. While libertarians are a diverse group of people with many philosophical starting points, they share a defining belief: that everyone should be free to do as they choose, so long as they don't infringe upon the equal freedom of others. Human interaction should be voluntary, not coerced. The only time physical force is acceptable is when it is used to defend against force. Many libertarians frame this in terms of the non-aggression principle: no individual or group of individuals shall initiate force against the person or property of any other individual. This might not seem very radical. After all, your parents probably taught you not to cheat, steal or pick fights -- in other words, not to use force against others. What sets libertarians apart is that they don't make any exceptions to this principle -- not even for governments. In the libertarian view, governments should be held to the same standards of right and wrong as individuals. As a result, libertarians believe that governments should not interfere with the interactions and exchanges of peaceful people.

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Assasinating politics
by mattd 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

Like bio-warfare,a subject that wont go away.AP is OK for the US and many other govts and the lunar right.Is it for you? politicalassasinations.com? I read a piece recently titled "Assasination Politics" and although I find the implications quite frightening, I must say that it seems to fit well within the whole Anarcho-Capitalist framework. The paper outlines an internet based system that would allow users to anonymously contribute money to a fund that would be used to place a pricetag on the head of a tyrannical despot. Collection of the bounty would also be done anonymously and electronically, due to the wonders of crypto. In theory, it would keep politicians on the straight and narrow. Interesting idea. I'm probably on an FBI list for posting a link to the paper on my site http://www.pjdoland.com/revolution/politics.html

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petrols opinion
by mattd 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

"CJP is/was/will be a lot funnier, and could babble in a fairly linear incoherency that mattd cannot. " Agreed ,Ill even put a proffr dollar on myself.

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Journalists to be treated as terrorists
by Tim May 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

"The President announced today that journalists working against the interests of the people and filing false reports will be treated as terrorists and subject to severe punishment." a) President Bush of the U.S.A. b) President Mugabe of Zimbabwe. c) Both of them. --Tim May "The Constitution is a radical document...it is the job of the government to rein in people's rights." --President William J. Clinton

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Fwd: collapse of govts.
by mattd 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

>To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >From: mattd <mattd(a)useoz.com> >Subject: collapse of govts. > >Bleaching the serial nos off money is Illegal >Ditto for anthrax scares and death threats esp toward arbusto and his heirs >Pornographers and drug cartels should not be allied with in a popular AP >front under any circumstances. >Please dont send the following as printed as its been filtered.Spamming by >the million might be legal but it could clog the echelon security >system.Dont do it! listen up gutless trolls by pr 1:55am Sun Nov 25 '01 I got a message for ya'all...Paranoia Conspiracy Black Ops Shadow Government Bio Warfare Black Helicopters Chemtrails Big Brother Secret Societies Aliens UFO UFOs Mind Control NWO New World Order OWG NSA NRO CIA FBI Implants Mark Of The Beast 666 Armageddon End Times Prophecy Apocalypse Holocaust Nostradamus RV Remote Viewing AI Artificial Intelligence Brainwashing Subliminal ELF EMP Nuclear biological non-lethal weapons of mass destruction UN United Nations WHO WTO IMF CFR NAFTA FTAA globalism Illuminati FEMA BATF martial law gulags Felix Rodriguez microwave survival Infowars Paranoid Frey Persinger Delgado Adey implants drugs drug war wire tap LIDA CBW WMD Denial of Service AO Hell Chemtrails Surveillance Blue Beam Web bugs phone bugs HAARP Espionage Spy Spies HERF Tesla D.I.R.T. 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Re: in praise of gold
by Faustine 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David wrote: George wrote: >>5) Gold makes women sleep with you. I don't know why they >>like it, but they do. >They sleep with you because of your large cattle herd only they >have accepted abstracted value and settle for gold or stocks... Not all women are golddiggers. I happen to think any woman who marries for money or sleeps around for gifts and dinners is worse than a whore. As the old saw goes, at least real prostitutes are honest about what they're doing. The only "abstracted value" I find really intriguing is the quality of a man's mind. Everything else is entirely beside the point. You have no idea how often I get hit on by so-called "attractive" men--and I'm quite proud to say I've never dated even one of them. I'd prefer a fat cranky old genius over a rich businessman or male model anyday! But if sleeping with golddiggers is good enough for you, to each his own. Though it must totally unsatisfying to know that your golddigger-du-jour will stop valuing you when your cash flow dries up. A shame you couldn't have found someone better instead. ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBO/r/Yfg5Tuca7bfvEQK0YACfQ9sHcAg4LWiF2UWfgztFLMpyyy4AoOiH hAYHtV/KWh7590kzgWfnN0il =3Vyx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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libertarian vs. socialist
by mattd 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

"...libertarian vs. socialist .."From Tims epistle to the faithful.9-11 certainly shook a few authoritarians out of the woodpile in both the libertarian and the socialist scenes.Nasty stuff. What happened to libertarian socialist? An R.Crumb cartoon for the noughties,"Im a libertarian socialist!" http://world.std.com/~mhuben/cypher.html Assassination Politics Convicted tax evader Jim Bell proposes a system of anonymous ecash awards for the murder of "aggressors", such as IRS agents. See also Crypto-Convict Won't Recant. What he misses is that his system, if tolerated, would merely force government to operate secretly rather than openly. They can do that?

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