November 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Residart, your dream home @ Batroun, Lebanon
by Huge Mail 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

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A Simple Plan ( Re: explosives )
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

"matt ." <morrow39(a)hotmail.com> wrote : > >Science project? omg shut the hell up. For all we know, your probably some >crazed arab going on a suicide spree > By the name perhaps a "Basque Separatist" is more likely. >From: "coretta fontenot" <cfontenot1(a)hotmail.com> > >How can I make an explosive? its cause that's my science project > It's a fairly simple process really. 1) read about many types 2) choose one 3) get the materials 4) make it 5) turn the material in to your watch commander 6) blame everyone that you found to be of assistance during your project of providing material assistance to terrorists #6 is all too likely to be true because some terrorists wear uniforms and some hold public office.

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Black Unicorn's talk at Saturday's meeting
by Bill Stewart 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

In Part One of "Squeezing the Jello" we covered the basics of the production of Cocaine HCl. We touched on the economic incentives to produce cocaine, down to the level of the peasant farmer. We also introduced some of the major players in the Medellin and Cali Cartels based in Columbia, examined their development into the "godfathers of cocaine" and discussed the challenges they faced in producing a market and distribution network for cocaine in the United States. We examined the evolution of the cocaine market and the increasing challenges to the transportation and logistic segments of international narcotics trafficking starting primarily in the Reagan era. We discovered the first hints of the adaptive nature of cocaine smuggling and the narcotics trafficking empires, now risen in power and influence both in Latin America and in the United States. Finally, we discussed the increasing technological and military involvement in the "war on drugs" and the changes in the cocaine trade, including the fall of the great cartels, that followed those developments. We ended with a description of the status quo of the cocaine trade today. In Part Two, we will review some of the things we learned in Part One. We will examine the cocaine trade again with an emphasis on its economic impacts and changes over the last three decades. We will go over the major players in the trade and their eventual fates. We will transition to the current state of affairs in the cocaine trade and draw some conclusions about the effectiveness of enforcement efforts given the evolved and advanced nature of the international narcotics trade. Finally, we will examine in detail the fates of the large players in the trade, the missteps they may have made and how the trade has evolved. The talk will end with some predications about the direction of the cocaine trade, the prospects for stopping the import of cocaine into the United States and the lessons we might learn about underground economies from the more than three decades of experience the international narcotics smuggling trade has given us. Methods we might use to apply these lessons to cypherpunky projects will be outlined and some related and future projects will be introduced to the group. See you there.

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US psyops uses Napster to steal music for broadcast
by Alfred Qaeda 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

http://www.msnbc.com/news/654592.asp?cp1=1 "He [Sgt in 4th psyops group] has downloaded hundreds more tunes from Internet sites that specialize in Afghan music." ---- No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God. -GW Bush

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Re: Security-by-credential or security-by-inspection
by Incognito Innominatus 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Marc de Piolenc wrote: > Tim May wrote: > > Nomen Nescio and others should read Chaum's "Credentials without > > identity" papers. A true name is just another credential, not > > necessarily more important than any of several other credentials. People > > should think deeply about this issue. > > I would like to read these papers. Are they available on-line? Chaum has a list of papers at www.chaum.com but most are not online. One that is online describes credential systems along with related technologies: "Security Without Identification: Transaction Systems to Make Big Brother Obsolete", http://www.chaum.com/articles/Security_Wthout_Identification.htm In exchange for providing you with these pointers, you are obligated to return the favor. Your assignment, Marc de Piolenc, is to read and understand this paper and to report back to cypherpunks with ideas about how pseudonymous credentials could be used to improve airport security.

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RE: The Republican Position on USC T 18 Ch 115 Sec 2383ff
by Trei, Peter 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

> From: mmotyka@lsil.com[SMTP:mmotyka@lsil.com] > What a guy! > Abraham Lincoln : > > "Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can > exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their > revolutionary right to dismember or > overthrow it." > > President Abraham Lincoln, "First Inaugural Address" (available at > http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html) > > "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the > right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new > one that suits them > better. This is a most valuable,---a most sacred right---a right, which > we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right > confined to cases in which the > whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it." > > (Speech in the United States House of Representatives, Jan. 12, 1848) > > > As far as I am concerned, to the extent that a government restricts > speech against it, it betrays its weakness and strengthens the > oppostion. When was the last time we heard one of our current crop of > political weenies speak so clearly or with such faith in the governed? > Not in my lifetime. > Mike ------------ As I said in an earlier post, there is usually a gulf - a huge one, between what institutions say and what they do Consider these actions of Lincoln in the light the above quotes: >From 'Getting Lincoln Right': http://www.lewrockwell.com/dieteman/dieteman50.html [...] Also, should those who debate the greatness of Lincoln ignore the fact that he arrested and exiled a US Congressman from Ohio - Clement Valladingham - who was also running for governor of Ohio at the time, over anti-war remarks made during a campaign speech? Valladingham was arrested in his bedroom in the middle of the night. Should one also overlook Lincoln's destruction of the rule of law in "loyal" Maryland? When Maryland voiced its support for the CSA and appeared itself ready to secede, Lincoln arrested 31 Maryland legislators, the mayor of Baltimore (the nation's 3rd largest city at the time), and a US Congressman from Maryland, as well as numerous editors and publishers. Not only did Lincoln imprison two US Congressmen, he also wrote out an arrest warrant for the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, Roger Taney, after Taney wrote the opinion in Ex Parte Merryman (1861) rebuking Lincoln's illegitimate suspension of habeas corpus (see Charles Adams, p 46-53). John Marshall, whose opinion in Marbury v. Madison (1803) famously declared that "It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is," also wrote the opinion in Ex Parte Bollman and Swartwout (1807) declaring that suspension of habeas corpus was a power vested only in the Congress. Lincoln simply ignored the law. Additionally, US Army troops refused to release Merryman into the custody of a federal marshal sent by Taney pursuant to the court order that Merryman be freed. Lincoln, then, imprisoned members of the federal legislative branch, and also sought to imprison the chief member of the federal judiciary. What happened to checks and balances? Lincoln, with the backing of the army, simply exercised whatever powers he desired. As noted Lincoln scholar Mark Neely writes in The Last Best Hope of Earth, Lincoln arrested the Marylanders "without much agonizing over their constitutionality" (p 133). [...]

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Re: The Republican Position on USC T 18 Ch 115 Sec 2383ff
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

OK, you got me, so I'm guilty of that political trick of ignoring the broader picture and using only partial facts in support of my own narrow point of view. sosumi ;) The words, taken on their own, are fine words and I stick by the bit about a government's willingness to persecute dissidents being a sign of its inherent weakness and lack of fitness to serve. Mike "Trei, Peter" wrote: > > > From: mmotyka@lsil.com[SMTP:mmotyka@lsil.com] > > What a guy! > > Abraham Lincoln : > > > > "Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can > > exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their > > revolutionary right to dismember or > > overthrow it." > > > > President Abraham Lincoln, "First Inaugural Address" (available at > > http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html) > > > > "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the > > right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new > > one that suits them > > better. This is a most valuable,---a most sacred right---a right, which > > we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right > > confined to cases in which the > > whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it." > > > > (Speech in the United States House of Representatives, Jan. 12, 1848) > > > > > > As far as I am concerned, to the extent that a government restricts > > speech against it, it betrays its weakness and strengthens the > > oppostion. When was the last time we heard one of our current crop of > > political weenies speak so clearly or with such faith in the governed? > > Not in my lifetime. > > Mike > ------------ > As I said in an earlier post, there is usually a gulf - a huge one, between > what institutions say and what they do > > Consider these actions of Lincoln in the light the above quotes: > > >From 'Getting Lincoln Right': > http://www.lewrockwell.com/dieteman/dieteman50.html > > [...] > Also, should those who debate the greatness of Lincoln > ignore the fact that he arrested and exiled a US Congressman > from Ohio - Clement Valladingham - who was also running for > governor of Ohio at the time, over anti-war remarks made > during a campaign speech? Valladingham was arrested in his > bedroom in the middle of the night. > > Should one also overlook Lincoln's destruction of the rule > of law in "loyal" Maryland? When Maryland voiced its support > for the CSA and appeared itself ready to secede, Lincoln > arrested 31 Maryland legislators, the mayor of Baltimore > (the nation's 3rd largest city at the time), and a US > Congressman from Maryland, as well as numerous editors and > publishers. > > Not only did Lincoln imprison two US Congressmen, he also > wrote out an arrest warrant for the Chief Justice of the US > Supreme Court, Roger Taney, after Taney wrote the opinion in > Ex Parte Merryman (1861) rebuking Lincoln's illegitimate > suspension of habeas corpus (see Charles Adams, p > 46-53). John Marshall, whose opinion in Marbury v. Madison > (1803) famously declared that "It is emphatically the > province and duty of the judicial department to say what the > law is," also wrote the opinion in Ex Parte Bollman and > Swartwout (1807) declaring that suspension of habeas corpus > was a power vested only in the Congress. Lincoln simply > ignored the law. Additionally, US Army troops refused to > release Merryman into the custody of a federal marshal sent > by Taney pursuant to the court order that Merryman be freed. > > Lincoln, then, imprisoned members of the federal legislative > branch, and also sought to imprison the chief member of the > federal judiciary. What happened to checks and balances? > Lincoln, with the backing of the army, simply exercised > whatever powers he desired. As noted Lincoln scholar Mark > Neely writes in The Last Best Hope of Earth, Lincoln > arrested the Marylanders "without much agonizing over their > constitutionality" (p 133). > [...]

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Fresh by Fantasy Mail
by Fresh by Fantasy Mail 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

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cypherpunk list
by Samuel 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

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09 Nov '01

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