November 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

The United States of America vs. The Left Coast
by Meyer Wolfsheim 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Oregon refuses to ignore basic constitutional rights for the sake of the war on terrorism: "Portland police have refused a U.S. Justice Department request for help in interviewing Middle Eastern immigrants as part of its sweeping terrorism investigation, saying it would violate state law." "Arabs and Muslims have expressed outrage at the U.S. Justice Department's plan to interview the 5,000 men, who are not suspected of any crimes. The list is comprised of men ages 18 to 33 who entered the United States since January 1, 2000, from countries that have been linked to the hijackers in the September 11 attacks or were waystations for the terrorist organization, al Qaeda." [...] http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/11/21/inv.portland.police.questioning.ap/index.… Oregon does battle with Ashcroft over physician-assisted suicide laws: "The judge said his order "nullifies giving any legal effect" to Ashcroft's directive -- in other words, doctors should not fear legal repercussions if they follow the Oregon law." "Ashcroft's order prompted the court challenge, with Oregon officials saying the government was trying to strip the state of its right to govern the practice of medicine" [...] http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/11/21/assistedsuicide.hearing.ap/index.html DEA feds declare war on Californians: "Unable to find Osama bin Laden or dismantle al Qaeda, the Bush administration has attacked an easier target -- the 960 mostly AIDS and cancer patients of the Los Angeles Cannabis Resource Center." "The basis for the raid is the long-standing state-vs.federal government dispute over who has say over drug laws. In 1996, California voters approved Proposition 215, which gave patients the right to possess medical marijuana. The federal government has refused to recognize the law in California and eight other states and Washington, D.C., which have passed similar medical-marijuana measures. Last May, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the reopening of an Oakland club, a decision cited in last weeks search warrant." [...] http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/50/news-simmons.shtml Add that to the raid on the Sacramento doctor and lawyer recently, resulting in hundreds of seized patient records. Damn pesky West Coast states, trying to pretend that they still have rights. They're part of the Union and have to do what Bushcroft says -- except, of course, when it comes to power outages. Then they're on their own. Hmm. Anyone see Redmond as the capital of the Independent States of the Pacific Coast? -MW-

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by Art Distributor 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

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Re: IP: Wanna make biological weapons and take out cities? $10. (fwd)
by John Young 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Since not many gun shows are held in Manhattan we don't expect to get a chance to buy one of Tobiason's CDs for academic purposes. We offer to purchase a copy of a copy, or an original, for say, up to $100 including S&H. Send to: John Young 251 West 89th Street New York, NY 10024 If you want to be paid beforehand let me know how to do that. One of the academic purposes is to see how much of the information on the CD is available elsewhere on the Net just in case the Net is being set up to take the Hit along with public libraries and avid defenders of the Constitution. As far as I know the CD is not yet illegal in New York State or City. Libraries and C-defenders are nervous.

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Advertising On Your Site
by advertising＠activexamerica.com 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

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On the site, Syn-flex is sold for $29.95 and honestly, it is selling so fast we are currently manufacturing 10,000 bottles per week. Even if you sell your own product on your site, Syn-flex could be the perfect "backend" or complimentary product that guarantees steady, additional cash flow for you. You just lead visitors to our site through banners, text links, newsletter articles, signature files etc. and we pay you. You make the money when the visitor from your site purchases Syn-flex or Syn-flex for your pets (1:33 visitor/sale conversion). Our advanced affiliate software keeps track of all commissions you are due. Even if a customer does not buy for another week, month, or year you still receive credit for each and every purchase online, by phone, by fax, or by mail. We pay you $6.00 for each bottle purchased. Important: Since Syn-flex is purchased monthly you receive recurring payments every month (not just once) from each customer (9 out of 10 of our customers who buy once, buy again and again). By only sending us three or four visitors a day by the end of a year, on average, we will be sending you a $252 check each month. Send us 20 visitors per day and after one year we'll, on average, send you a check for $1400 each month (which continues to grow). It takes three minutes to sign up and five to place a link on your site. Once this is done you do not have to do another thing and on the first of each month we will mail you a check (of course you could do a little promoting like writing a recommendation or an article in a newsletter if you really want sales to skyrocket). All the tracking is done by our software. Once a partner, you can check to see how you are doing any time you like by visiting our special Affiliate Resource Center. There you just enter your username and password and you'll be given instant access to your personal sales and visitor statistics. You'll know exactly how many people have visited our web site from yours and you'll see an up to the minute record of your sales. I don't want to take up your time by explaining all of the details in a really long email. You can check out all the details at http://www.activexamerica.com/partner/ -or- you can sign up right away at http://www.activexamerica.com/partner/signup.html These web pages will explain everything. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. This is a perfect opportunity for your company and ours to increase profits with very little work. I look forward to hearing from you. And if you still have any questions after you have visited the website explaining everything, please feel free to email me or call me directly at (941) 778-2155. All the Best, Ryan Allis VP Marketing Activex America, Inc. http://www.activexamerica.com partner(a)activexamerica.com (941) 778-2155 P.S: We also have a great wholesale program. Syn-flex is a very profitable additional to any product line. Email us at resell(a)activexamerica.com for details. P.P.S. Just take five minutes to sign up and put a link on your site and if at the end of one month you aren't happy with the amount on your check just take the link down. There is really nothing to lose.

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Re: Pricing Mojo, Integrating PGP, TAZ, and D.C. Cypherpunks
by Anonymous 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Declan McCullagh writes: > I don't mean to take issue with much of what Anonymous writes, but > some of the examples mentioned can be taken care of adequately by > existing payment systems. > > Using Amazon's payment system (they have two types, voluntary and > pay-for-content), a webmaster can charge as low as $1, I believe, for > content, and Paypal is another option. > > Naturally, they don't do micropayments, and they don't offer the type > of anonymity that other systems do, but the early-cypherpunk-archive- > editing project, for instance, wouldn't require anon payments in > ha'pennies either. On November 13, you wrote to anon poster Nomen Nescio: > (If you really wanted to do something that might be useful, you'd > pick the more interesting threads from the dawn of the list, insert > them into a good search utility, and make that available for searching > and .tar.gz downloading.') Supposing you and others were willing to pay Nomen a modest sum for this service, how could you do so using Paypal or Amazon, and allow him to retain his anonymity? An alternative solution is barter. Nomen could agree to search certain years of archives, or certain topics, in exchange for other people working on other parts of the project, for example. Information barter can be performed while retaining anonymity. Maybe systems to facilitate barter could be developed if anonymous cash remains out of reach.

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21 Nov '01

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by ses��п�� 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

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cryptoanarchy
by mattd 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

How to get there from here.Is this the long dark night of the cypherpunks soul? I would argue that its the cliche darkests hour before the dawn.The alphabet police soup are on us like a cheap suit,the list becomes the prototype of the entire web. things look bloody bleak,Ill grant you that.Yet put yourself in their shoes for a sec,we are a bit like a motley bunch of global justice seekers that take over cities and scorn borders,advancing in diversity, we strike in unison. The logic and morality of the state is letting them down,dictatorships so much easier.Where does all the repression and money in the world lead them though? They cant catch every cypherpunk and run down every anarchist.What if we were to start using barter? I do some work for you and accept 10 kudos instead of dollars,our contract calls for stiff defence of all attempts to tax the 'kudo'.Does the 'sweet spot' lie in the rush to provide the state with the means to torture,imprison and enslave? Or withdraw from the powder tainted means of exchange thats turning this place into venus.Paper money should share the same fate as repression,cypherpunks can mark the trail to the promised land,you know theres no other way. Viva HAWALA!

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Re: King Interactive Distributors
by juancarlos＠memorykings.net 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

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Re: The bookburning begins...
by Major Variola (ret) 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

At 10:40 PM 11/20/01 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > >unrelated - did you notice that "for the children" meme is almost gone and replaced with "against the terrorism" ? Children can be terrorists. Its the asymmetry, again. "Terrorists are the only true avant-garde artists because they're the only ones who are still capable of really surprising people." ---Laurie Anderson "Never underestimate the stupidity of some of the people we have to deal with," William A. Reinsch, Under Secretary of Commerce for the Bureau of Export Administration, said while being grilled about whether terrorists and criminals would be naove enough to use the technology being pushed by the Administration. "Terrorism: deadly violence against humans and other living things, usually conducted by government against its own people." -- Edward Abbey

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