October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

who speaks for the detained
by mattd 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Dissapeared like the argentine dirty war? and who speaks for jim bell,leonard peltier,jeff luers,chris boyce all the drug war prisoners and the ones who couldnt cop to a rotten plea deal.The US gulag is overtaking the military industrial complex as a dark arm of the evil empire.FUCK the STATE.

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Re: Osama is Jesus
by Anonymous User 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

the antichrist will not be thought as evil (by the world-community) but a great helper. He will come up with solutions. Actually that is not the A.C. but one that will introduce him. Glory -- "your low-tech cold feet provider" ..

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Verba Volant 11-10-2001
by verba＠rol.it 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Verba Volant 11-10-2001, Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. Logos Translations - www.logostranslations.com _________________ Quotation of the day: Author - Manu Chao English - I am in favour of legalizing all drugs. This is for one reason: I dont like the mafia Italian - sono favorevole alla legalizzazione di tutta la droga. Questo per un unica ragione: non mi piace la mafia Spanish - soy favorable a la legalización de toda la droga. Por una sola razón: no me gusta la mafia French - le meilleur moyen de lutter contre la mafia ? Légaliser toutes les drogues Portuguese - sou a favor da legalização de todas as drogas. Por uma única razão: não gosto da Máfia Brazilian Portuguese - sou a favor da legalização de todas as drogas. Por uma única razão: não gosto da Máfia German - ich bin für die Legalisierung aller Drogen, und zwar aus einem einzigen Grund: Ich habe nichts für die Mafia übrig Hungarian - én az összes drog legalizálása mellett vagyok. többek között ezért nem szeretem a maffiát Finnish - kannatan kaikkien huumausaineiden laillistamista. Siihen on vain yksi syy: en pidä mafiasta Catalan - estic a favor de legalització de tota droga,només per una raó, no mŽagrada la mafia Croatian - ja sam za legalizaciju droge. Iz jedinog razloga to mi se ne svi?a mafija Dutch - ik ben voor de legalisatie van alle drugs. En dit enkel en alleen maar omdat ik het niet voor de maffia heb Emiliano-Romagnolo - par me la legalisazioun ad tota la drouga la è goudibla; la rasoun la è una soula: la mafia, ma me, la è sgudebla Latin - omnium medicamentorum comprobationi faveo. Propter hoc unum: mafia mihi non placet Latvian; Lettish - esmu par visa veida narkotiku legaliz?anu. Un tam pamat? ir viens iemesls: man nepat?k mafija Polish - jestem za legalizacj? wszystkich narkotyków. I to przez jedyny powód: nie lubi? mafi Romanian - sunt pentru legalizarea tuturor narcoticelor. ?i asta doar dintr-un singur motiv: nu-mi place mafia Slovak - som za legalizáciu vetkých drog. Z jediného dôvodu: nepá?i sa mi mafia Venetian - so' a favore de legalisare tute le droghe. E questa par 'na sola rason: no' me piase la mafia Sicilian - sugnu a favuri d' 'a legalizzazioni di tutti i droghi. E chistu pi 'na sula raggiuni: non mi piaci 'a mafia Flemish - ik ben voor de legalisatie van alle drugs. En dit enkel en alleen maar omdat ik het niet voor de maffia heb Ferrarese - a son d'acord cola legalizazion ad tut'il drog. Al dig pr'un sol motiv: an am pias brisa la mafia _________________ All languages, please click on this link http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.frasiproc.carica?code=418 _________________ Let your friends know about this news letter: give them a subscription to Verba Volant http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant _________________ To unsubscribe from Verba Volant, please follow this link: http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant In the empty field next to unsubscribe, enter the email address shown after "TO:" in the Verba Volant emails. Alternatively, write to the following address: unsubscribe_volant(a)rol.it, copying the email address shown after "TO:"

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Who speaks for the detained
by Karsten M. Self 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

At last nights "BayFF" public meeting on pending anti-terrorist legislation, John Gilmore made what I felt was a very good point in the Q&A: Who is representing the 500+ people detained in the ongoing Sept. 11 investigation? Even assuming the Feds are being good at picking up people fitting profiles, there are doubtless innocents in the detained group. My understanding is that most are being held as material witnesses, under immigration rules (recently revised), not formally charged with any crime -- and hence not eligible for public defenders. The two panelists representing general civil rights causes, Robert Rubin (Legal Director, Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights of the SF Bay Area) and Ann Brick (Staff Attourney, ACLU of Northern California) were disturbingly uninformed on the issue, Ann's comment was "nobody's contacted us" (well, um, yes...). As the names of the detainees haven't been released (this might compromise the investigation), yet the detainees may not have access to council, this seems to be, as one audience member commented, a catch-22. Press coverage on this topic is sparse at best. I've found one Yahoo story dating from Oct 2 which claims the detainees "were permitted to consult a lawyer" and were provided "documents in their native language". http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011002/pl/attack_detentions_dc_1.html Anyone here have data on the situation? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <kmself(a)ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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B61-11
by None 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

THE US 'ANNOUNCED' THEIR INTENTION TO USE B61-11 BUNKER BUSTERS ON LAST NIGHT'S NEWS BULLETINS (BUT SOMEHOW FORGOT TO REFER TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS) 2:00 a.m. Oct. 8, 2001 PDT Following the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was questioned on ABC television's This Week program about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons in the expected conflicts to come. In practiced Pentagonese, Rumsfeld deftly avoided answering the question of whether the use of tactical nuclear weapons could be ruled out. Though large "theater" thermonuclear devices -- doomsday bombs -- don't fit the Bush administration's war on terrorism, smaller tactical nukes do not seem out of the question in the current mindset of the Defense Department. The most likely candidate is a tactical micro-nuke called the B61-11, an earth-penetrating nuclear device known as the "bunker buster." The B61-11 was designed to destroy underground military facilities such as command bunkers, ballistic missile silos and facilities for producing and storing weapons.

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B61-11
by None 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

THE US 'ANNOUNCED' THEIR INTENTION TO USE B61-11 BUNKER BUSTERS ON LAST NIGHT'S NEWS BULLETINS (BUT SOMEHOW FORGOT TO REFER TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS) 2:00 a.m. Oct. 8, 2001 PDT Following the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was questioned on ABC television's This Week program about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons in the expected conflicts to come. In practiced Pentagonese, Rumsfeld deftly avoided answering the question of whether the use of tactical nuclear weapons could be ruled out. Though large "theater" thermonuclear devices -- doomsday bombs -- don't fit the Bush administration's war on terrorism, smaller tactical nukes do not seem out of the question in the current mindset of the Defense Department. The most likely candidate is a tactical micro-nuke called the B61-11, an earth-penetrating nuclear device known as the "bunker buster." The B61-11 was designed to destroy underground military facilities such as command bunkers, ballistic missile silos and facilities for producing and storing weapons.

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by info＠life-protect.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

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The reward for osama bert laden
by mattd 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

The reward will be paid for information passed on in person to US authorities in a place/time of their chosing.This rules out 99 % of those who might actually be close enough to know anything. It also places them in immediate personal danger.Why isnt the reward encrypted as described in AP? And before sandy starts up again,if AP is so unrealistic,why was a SS agent required to assist 10 plainclothes federal and state police take my computer away four months ago.I wish sandy would explain to them how hopeless AP is.The main reason I think they wont encrypt is because they dont want it used on them,just like they regularly threaten to use nukes yet back off when they see it can boomerang on them.Cypherpunks should expose this craven cowardice or ...just say so.

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Re: Osama is Jesus
by An Metet 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

> Bush is just a mindless puppet channeling the Masters of > the Illuminatti. Aha, no wonder he reminds me so much of Hitler, who was also channeling the Masters.

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Re: FC: FBI posts "skyfall" terrorism alert, says, oops, we'll rename
by Steve Schear 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

I would be at all surprised if this alarming but useless announcement was meant to pressure Congress to keep the strictest measures in the anti-terrorism legislation before it. At 05:57 PM 10/11/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47510,00.html > > FBI Warns of 'Skyfall' Attack > By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) > 2:35 p.m. Oct. 11, 2001 PDT > > WASHINGTON -- In a brief but dramatic statement, the FBI warned > Thursday that Americans should expect additional terrorist attacks. > > A two-sentence press release on FBI.gov said there "may be additional > terrorist attacks within the United States and against U.S. interests

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