October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [EMED-L] [Hazmat-WMD] Anthrax - When do we worry? (fwd)
by measl＠mfn.org 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

This same thread just had a posting from a practitioner who was met with "we don't care, go somewhere else" by several agencies (including the Fat Dumb & Ignorant) when trying to report a possible case. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:47:22 -0400 From: Richard Paley <rpaley(a)ADELPHIA.NET> Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. <EMED-L(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU> To: EMED-L(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU Subject: Re: [EMED-L] [Hazmat-WMD] Anthrax - When do we worry? In Florida, the state department of health is telling us not to do any cultures for Anthrax. We are to refer asymptomatic patients who sent at least one hour in the AMI building to the health department for interviewing and testing ----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas yoshida" <dyoshida(a)BELLATLANTIC.NET> To: <EMED-L(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [EMED-L] [Hazmat-WMD] Anthrax - When do we worry? > Prior to the 12th I know of no one in our EDs( NYU and Bellevue) that treated any > one with antibiotics. Now that there is anthrax documented in New York, things > will changed. > > The Department of Health's official recommendation is to treat only the NBC > employees who were on the 3rd, 7th floor or in the mailroom on Sept. 18th or 25th. > Asymptomatic people were being treated on site with cipro and had nasal cultures > taken. Patients with any "symptoms" were being referred to the Bellevue ED. I > treated and discharged one NBC employee who had a runny nose and sore throat > (nothing else) with a nasal swab and levofloxin who "probably" was on those > floors. I saw another person who works for a magazine publisher who got a white > powder on her hands hours before the NBC exposure was announced. She was already > on levofloxin for a a sinus infection so I swabbed her nose and notified the > on-site CDC person. For everyone else without the hint of credible exposure I have > been treating with reassurance that their rash or cold is not anthrax, though what > a credible exposure is will probably change if more cases/sites arise. Other ED > attendings have been taking nasal swabs of non-NBC employees who give a vague > history of exposure (e.g. there was white dust in the taxi cab driven by a dark > skinned man). > > I could find no data that states how sensitive or specific a nasal swab is for > anthrax exposure, does any one know? > > Douglas Yoshida MD > Bellevue and NYU hospitals > > "Henry J. Siegelson, MD, FACEP" wrote: > > > I have had to deal with several individuals and families that were worried > > that they might have been anthrax victims. THey either visited Florida > > recently or had an upper respiratory infection. > > > > What is everyone doing to workup these patients? > > > > How are you advising treatment? > > > > Henry J. Siegelson, MD, FACEP > > Atlanta > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <VanceB4660(a)aol.com> > > To: <Hazmat-WMD(a)yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 11:25 AM > > Subject: [Hazmat-WMD] Anthrax - When do we worry? > > > > > I think it's time we started talking about how to evaluate whether or not > > > this anthrax business is a big deal or not. Here are some things that > > would > > > make me worry: > > > > > > 1. The various samples are genetically similar. > > > 2. Similar handwriting on the letters. > > > 3. Brown powder vice white starts showing up. (Anthrax is usually brown. > > You > > > can find any white powder in any kitchen.) > > > 4. More people actually get sick (NOT mass psychogenic illness). > > > > > > What do the rest of you think? > > > > > > Vance Bennett > > > Hazmat Curmudgeon > > > > > > Post message.............Hazmat-WMD(a)Yahoogroups.com > > > Subscribe................Hazmat-WMD-subscribe(a)Yahoogroups.com > > > UnSubscribe..............Hazmat-WMD-unsubscribe(a)Yahoogroups.com > > > HazMat-WMD Archives......http://Yahoogroups.com/archive/Hazmat-WMD > > > Common Files & Folders...http://Yahoogroups.com/files/Hazmat-WMD > > > HazMat Related Bookmarks.http://Yahoogroups.com/links/Hazmat-WMD > > > > > > Forward info about this list to anyone in the HazMat-WMD field. > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send the command "SIGNOFF EMED-L" to LISTSERV(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU > > To unsubscribe, send the command "SIGNOFF EMED-L" to LISTSERV(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU To unsubscribe, send the command "SIGNOFF EMED-L" to LISTSERV(a)ITSSRV1.UCSF.EDU

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Re: WH = FBI = VP
by John Young 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Is it true Bush wears a Kevlar vest when he parades to and from his chopper for photo ops? All the time he is in public? Is there a lighter more effective material than Kevlar, for a sleeping bag on AF1? What protection could possibly be effective during the CN trip what with all the dumb-tech guided missles going berzerk lately?

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Re: WH = FBI = VP
by mikecabot＠fastcircle.com 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

More likely he's holed up at Akamai in Cambridge, MA :) (Both the White House and the FBI are using Akamai to cache and serve their web pages.... no relation to the caching issues being discussed with Safeweb, this is totally benign and similar to what a lot of other high-traffic sites do, like CNN.COM, etc.) Mike > Original Message from Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:05:08 -0700:> > VisualRoute shows that pinging whitehouse.gov produces > exactly the same path as pinging fbi.gov, both ending in > Los Angeles. Is that where Cheney is holed up in the Getty > Combustible Bunker? Sniff the LA impure air, is that La > Brea tar or Halliburton grease? > > Pinging the WH is will shortly be a terrorist act warns Patriot, > so better hurry before the bush hammers john henry. > > Anthrac, quack, quack. > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ WANT YOUR OWN FREE AND SECURE WEB EMAIL ADDRESS? Visit http://www.fastcircle.com

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WH = FBI = VP
by John Young 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

VisualRoute shows that pinging whitehouse.gov produces exactly the same path as pinging fbi.gov, both ending in Los Angeles. Is that where Cheney is holed up in the Getty Combustible Bunker? Sniff the LA impure air, is that La Brea tar or Halliburton grease? Pinging the WH is will shortly be a terrorist act warns Patriot, so better hurry before the bush hammers john henry. Anthrac, quack, quack.

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Paper tigers II
by osama_ben-laden＠hushmail.com 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

The angel of vengeance will enter from the source many Americans hold most dear.

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RE: .INFO is now live
by DotInfoCentral.com 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

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bush wheels out the nukes
by cpaul 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

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13 Oct '01

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Safeweb to Hotmail Loop
by anon go 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Yes, our RIAA leaker used a Safeweb to Hotmail loop to send the messages, as shown with this sample. The technique appears common: Hotmail lists a slew of Hotmail nyms with variations on Safeweb and Anongo which can be seen by trying to sign up with either nym. It could be Safeweb and Anongo have reserved all of them but probably not likely, merely that a number of folks have already figured out what I'm just learning. One unexpected oddity: I signed up with the nym "unsafeweb" but the nym on messages sent from this account is, as shown, "anon go," or was on a previous test message. What will happen on this message remains to be seen. Perhaps that is a feature, but my source for the RIAA allegations did not have "anon go" as a nym. Let me disclose another clue: the final loop was through a yahoo account, which resolved to Safeweb. How many loops occurred in the full chain is yet to be determined. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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FBI myopia == crypto/steganography?
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Perhaps just more evidence that the problem has been enough meat-based intelligence to understand the shit that's just sitting around in plain sight. The biggest contribution to the disaster of 9/11 was "Intelligence" ineptness, and the 2nd biggest threat to this country is "Intelligence" blaming it on our 'freedom' (disintegrating though it may be.) >To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >Subject: NPR Story Yesterday > >A writer for the Voice ( if I heard it correctly ) talked about a >computer captured in Manila that was supposedly used by Ramzi Yousef. He >said that there were documents that described hijacking planes and >flying them into prominent buildings. > >This information was turned over to the FBI in 1995 or 1996. > >I hope with expanded powers for surveillance and searches that they can >gather better information and shorten the analysis period.

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