October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: America needs therapy
by Jim Windle 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:33:41 Declan McCullagh wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: >> Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be >> $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry. > >I think this canard has been debunked on the list in the last week. > One more bit of debunking. According to the EIA the US uses on average over 8 million barrels of gasoline a day. The petroleum industry defines a barrel as 42 gallons. That's 336 million gallons a day or 123 billion gallons a year. If each gallon is subsidized by $10+ per barrel, the annual sudsidy from the government to the oil industry would be, at a minimum, $1.23 trillion a year. Total GDP in 2000 was only $9.2 trillion. This is non-sense. Or is this subsidy desquised as the defense budget, social security payments and service on the national debt? Jim Windle Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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National Emergency Technology Guard (NET Guard) proposal
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- http://wyden.senate.gov/9262001%20Tech%20Corps%20Statement.htm Remarks of Senator Ron Wyden to the United States Senate Proposing a National Emergency Technology Guard (NET Guard) Senator Wyden chairs the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space. "I am interested in discussing with the Senate a proposition that I think is important in light of the tragic events that unfolded on September 11, 2001. As all of us understand now, the communications infrastructure of New York, Washington, DC, and indeed the whole country, was severely challenged. "Wireless telephone networks were severely overloaded and crashed. Wireless Internet access was suspended. Telephone lines were cut, and communications, for people literally in communities around the East Coast of the United States, came to a standstill. Even the immediate communication needs of rescue workers, victims, families and aid groups were a struggle to coordinate. Survivors often could not let family members know they were safe. Families of victims had no immediate central clearinghouse to find information or file missing persons reports. "Hospitals were inundated with searches, requests for help and offers of aid, but no way to match them to each other. Even some of our nation's premier aid organizations, who have done such a marvelous job helping rescue workers, survivors and victims' families, faced immediate and severe challenges with respect to information technology infrastructure. The New York Times drew a conclusion that I strongly agree with: There need to be new ways to set up emergency information systems. "That's what I'd like to propose. What this country needs is essentially a technology equivalent of the National Guard: a National Emergency Technology Guard - NET Guard - that in times of crisis would be in a position to mobilize our nation's information technology, or IT, community to action quickly, just as the National Guard is ready to move during emergencies. "In our leading technology companies in this nation, there are the brains and the equipment to put in place this NET Guard, that could be deployed across this country when we face tragedies like we saw in New York City. A national volunteer organization of trained and well-coordinated units of IT professionals from our leading technology companies ought to be in a position to stand ready with designated computer equipment, satellite dishes, wireless communicators and other equipment to quickly recreate and repair compromised communications and technology infrastructures. "With Congressional support, the leaders of our nation's technology companies could organize themselves, their employees, and their resources for this purpose. Medium and small-sized businesses would be able to contribute once a national framework was put in place. The resources from the federal level need not be extensive; people could be designated from existing human resource pools at major and medium sized firms and these IT professionals would be trained to perform specific tasks in the event of an emergency. "I intend to use the Subcommittee that I chair to initiate a dialogue among Congressional, corporate, military and non-profit leaders to begin a new effort to mobilize information technology in times of crisis. As we seek to prevent future disasters, I believe the technology professionals of this nation, like most Americans, want to use their skills, their equipment, and their talents to this call and do their part. I propose we give leading information technology professionals a chance to use their ingenuity and creativity to insure greater safety and stability for our communities and our citizens in the coming days." --- http://wyden.senate.gov/9262001%20Tech%20Corps.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAju4uv8YHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P S04AoK+74XyVDmzbwbJheAQv0mEdlutUAKCgPGCNGrPq9jjNk3R75NpiDSAlSA== =hdsa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Operation Lingering Pain (Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd))
by Subcommander Bob 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

>> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:25:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote: >> > Yes. Though these days they have Emergency Powers for everything, >> > and chronic, continually extended 'Emergencies'. >> >> I've always enjoyed the regular declarations of emergencies required >> to keep the encryption export control regime active. >> >> If an emergency exists for decades, can it still be properly called one? > >I guess so, if it's still "emerging." A difficult birth, perhaps. Heh, if labor takes too long you go in for a Caesarian. Damn, those Romans showing up again... Maybe that's what they mean by a "surgical strike"... ------- Bluffs will be published if comical but otherwise ignored. -JY

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\"Trust In Government Surges During Crisis\"
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- (I know this reads like a bad troll, but thought you'd want to see it anyway...) Washington Post September 30, 2001 Federal Diary Trust In Government Surges During Crisis; Challenge Is To Keep It From Ebbing By Stephen Barr The liberals trust the government. The conservatives trust the government. Equal proportions of men and women trust the government. The results of a Washington Post poll published yesterday are stunning. The poll found that 64 percent of Americans trusted the federal government nearly always or most of the time to "do what is right," more than double the percentage who said they trusted the government in April 2000. The support cuts across ideological, racial, financial and geographic lines, reflecting broad support for the federal government, according to the data compiled by Richard Morin, director of Washington Post polling, and Claudia Deane, assistant director. Clearly, the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 played a pivotal role in shaping how Americans view the government. Ninety percent support taking military action against groups or nations responsible for the attacks, according to the poll. A whopping 82 percent said they favored having the federal government take over security screening at U.S. airports. The poll breaks what had been a three-decade span of surveys showing that roughly one-third of Americans felt they could trust in government. In the early 1960s, University of Michigan polls found that more than seven in 10 Americans expressed confidence in the federal government. The proportion dropped below 50 percent after 1972 and spiraled downward through the decades of Vietnam, Watergate and political scandals. Today, the Post poll found, 69 percent of conservatives, 64 percent of moderates and 62 percent of liberals say they trust the government always or most of the time. People identifying themselves by political party also trust the government more than before. In April 2000, only 25 percent of Republicans said they trusted the government always or most of the time. Today, it's 73 percent. That's 12 percentage points higher than Democrats, who historically put more faith in government programs. The turnaround is equally impressive among independent voters. Only 27 percent of independents trusted the government last year; now, 62 percent say they do. The poll found that 64 percent of men and 64 percent of women expressed confidence in the federal government. Residents of the South (67 percent) and the East (66 percent) showed slightly more trust than people in the West (61 percent) and the Midwest (62 percent). Young people trusted the government slightly more than baby boomers, according to the poll. Sixty-eight percent of the people in the 18-to-30 age range said they trusted the government; 62 percent of those 31 to 44 expressed confidence; and 63 percent of people older than 45 said they trusted the government. When measured by income, the changes in trust are dramatic. In April 2000, only 31 percent of respondents earning $50,000 or more trusted the government; now it's 69 percent. Last year, only 28 percent of people earning $30,000 to $50,000 expressed trust, while 67 percent do now. A total of 1,215 randomly selected adults were interviewed Sept. 25-27 for the poll. The margin of error is plus or minus three percentage points. The positive feelings about government from Republicans and other conservatives probably spring from their staunch support of President Bush, a Republican. But other institutions -- Congress, the military, the FBI -- received equally impressive approval ratings in recent Gallup polls. Even federal employees are getting high approval ratings. A recent survey by the Presidential Appointee Initiative, a Brookings Institution project, found that 69 percent of Americans held favorable opinions of government workers. Numerous analysts of poll numbers think this tidal wave of trust in the government will recede when the crisis fades. But it doesn't have to slip away. That's the long-haul challenge facing Bush, members of Congress and federal employees. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAju4snwYHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P 0gIAoJ/IunWPDe6q9jLKjX3GYoYS4jgdAJ47b0F3pRzVFHwrBkjok34aPapoHg== =IP14 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Oracle must die
by Anonymous 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

>The crimes are: (1) insulting the memories of those killed, by trying >to hitch a free ride on the emotional backblast of the 911 attacks. (2) >treason against individual sovereignty, by aiding and abetting the >enemies of freedom (3) attempted murder of the rival company Microsoft. I agree. Last Fri I decided to go with informix (around $7K involved) - and oracle's joining of hysteria was the principal cause. This is the first time ever I made a decision based on non-technical issues.

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[FREE] stratfor (fwd)
by measl＠mfn.org 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

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Re: America needs therapy
by Subcommander Bob 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

At 03:48 PM 9/30/01 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >and you know that junkies will do whatever it takes to get >their next fix. Hey, you should have seen what California was paying for hits of natural gas early in the summer... As long as you get a reliable, clean supply you can be healthy & productive (like the founder of John's Hopkins, a medical morphine addict). America just needs to get a better supplier than those flaky arabs who are always having violent family spats. ---- 'for, while it may only be a cynic who questions the benign intent of their current rulers, it would surely be a fool who believed that such benevolence is assured in the future.

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New earn opportunity
by freevision 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

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Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- James wrote: >What is this, Henry Kissinger's vanity website or something? It reads >like one of his Nixon era State Dept. memos on Vietnam or some shit. >Pure felgercarb. What objective criteria do you use to tell good analysis from bad? > Mr. Bin Laden must be flattered no end if >he thinks that the U.S. reallly considers him personally, or even his >entire organization, that much of a menace. You mean the way some people around here are convinced that this list will somehow be declared a terrorist organization? Like that? >Doubt he's that stupid, though. Probably not. ~F. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAju3g1EYHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P hxcAnjQynztwyO7pYffppJLeL7XstFXPAJ43NKHs9i2t3XCWpdjwF0LN3fe14g== =UPMk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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01 Oct '01

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