October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

is there a red-line of PATRIOT bill?
by citizenQ 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

Does anyone have a red-line, change-pages version?

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bio outbreak on Paki/Afghan border. (t/f?)
by Anonymous 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/10/04/wref… Confirm? Deny? Ebola-style killer virus sweeps Afghan border Tim Butcher in Quetta (<<< you have to be skeptical!) (Filed: 04/10/2001) THE largest outbreak in history of a highly contagious disease that causes patients to bleed to death from every orifice was confirmed yesterday Pakistan's frontier with Afghanistan. . . .

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business proposal
by info＠propnewidea.com 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

Dear Sir or Madam, As your company is an Internet provider and, accordingly, you have a large audience, we thought fit to offer you our patented solutions. They will allow you to get additional profit from your audience. Today the idea of renting software is very popular, but existing solutions in this field requires additional spending and conditions (broadband communication lines for clients, a growing traffic of servers, etc.). One of our inventions allows eliminating these problems. A METHOD FOR RENTING SOFTWARE AND OTHER ELECTRONIC DATA (audio, video, etc.) allows a user to use software and other electronic data in exchange for processing advertising information. A fee for use of software (or audio/video files) will be paid to its owner by the advertiser that provides advertisements to a user. This method does not require a permanent connection to a remote resource, which extends a range of software. The novelty of this invention consists in the method of providing advertising information to a user and the method of account settlements between advertisers and owners of software (or audio/video files). This method allows creating with minimal spending a center for distribution of software and other electronic data and attracting a great amount of software developers and users. This will increase the amount of advertising information provided for processing and ensure its targeted delivery. A METHOD FOR A DEFERRED INFORMATION RETRIEVAL AND DISPLAYING complements the above-described method. This method erases the distinction between information processing online and offline and allows a user not to interrupt his or her surfing on the Internet to view additional information using found links. Besides, this method optimizes the process of information retrieval from remote resources. This will increase the amount and the quality of processing advertising information. As you have a big audience of users, you can apply these two solutions to develop a new kind of business (rental). Respectfully, Andre Lubimov mailto: info(a)propnewidea.com

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The Day the Airways Stood Still
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

BARNHARDT (studying her for a moment) Tell me, Hilda -- does all this frighten you -- does it make you feel insecure? HILDA Yes, sir -- it certainly does! BARNHARDT (nodding with a bland little smile) That's good, Hilda. I’m glad.

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Re: Photographing Dams
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

Aren't there cases of persons having had their film confiscated for photographing federal installations from public rights of way or is that the stuff of urban/net legends? Is does sound hokey to me. Mike

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Re: and now for something completely different...
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

I felt a great disturbance in the Force . . . as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

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Slashdot | Copyright Claimed on Telephone Tones
by Jim Choate 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/10/04/0142222.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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"The Letter" As seen on national TV!
by V Bassett 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

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Jihad-training web site yanked; firm trained would-be fighters in USA.
by Xeni Jardin 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

The UK Times is reporting that the web site for a UK-based firm offering "jihad training programs" has been shut down, unclear by whom. Through the site, the company promoted its "Ultimate Jihad Challenge" workshops which included the how-to's of "bone breaking," "foreign firearm instruction," -- and gun-training sessions in the United States at a live firing range. The course outline ends on this note: "SUCESSFUL STUDENTS WILL RECEIVE THE SAKINA INSRUCTORS CERTIFICATE AND OATH OF LOYALTY TO THE UMMAH OF ALLAH DIVINE RELIGION OF SUBMISSION." I found a Google cache of Sakina's site, and have included the URL below with a text cut-and-paste from the cache. --XJ ====================================================== http://www.thetimes.co.uk October 4, 2001 "Holy Wars" website is shut down A British website which offered young Muslims the chance to train for holy wars abroad has been removed from the internet. The website of London-based firm Sakina Security Ltd is no longer available, Internet service provider Freeserve confirmed. The site had offered the "ultimate Jihad challenge" in which clients were taken to a live firing range in the United States for weapons training where they shoot up to 3,000 rounds each. It also offered training in hand-to-hand combat, including "the art of bone breaking" and how to "improvise explosive devices" in live operations. The website, which had more than 15,000 visitors, also asked people to donate money to a fund for the "liberation" of the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. They were asked to give money to a London-based account of the Woolwich bank. It also carried a link to a "Jihad in Chechnya" site which showed the bodies of dead Russian soldiers. It was not clear who instigated the shutdown of the website, but police have been aware of Sakina's activities for at least 18 months. Hendon MP Andrew Dismore asked a question about the firm in Parliament in May last year and was told by then Home Secretary Jack Straw that police were already aware of the company and were looking into it. America : last updated, October 04, 2001 00:05 ====================================================== [Text copied from Google's cache of the now-defunct Sakina Security web site --XJ ] <http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:tFUYskv2QEA:www.sakina.fsbusiness. co.uk/money.htm+%22Sakina+Security%22+WOULD+YOU+LIKE+TO+MAKE+MONEY+FROM+ THE+SECURITY+INDUSTRY&hl=en> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE MONEY FROM THE SECURITY INDUSTRY? IN THE REAL WORLD OF SECURITY THE MONEY IS MADE FROM HIGH RISKS JOBS. SAKINA SECURITY SERVICES PRIDES ITSELF ON HIGH RISKS JOBS IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION AND IN THE CIVIL WAR ARENAS OF THE WORLD. TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE IN THIS FIELD YOU NEED THE FOLLOWING SKILLS: INTERNATIONAL LAW/COUNTRY OF ORIGIN LAW INTERNATIONAL USE OF FORCE POLICY HIGH RISK OPERATIONS HIGH STRESS FIREARMS/CQB SKILLS INTERNATIONAL DRESS & PROTOCOL DRIVING SKILLS FOREIGN FIREARMS FAMILIARISATION BASIC LANGUAGE PHRASES LOCAL TERRORIST/CRIMINAL UPDATE THESE ARE SOME OF THE SKILLS REQUIRED BY A SAKINA OPERATIVE ON A HIGH PROFILE MISSION SAKINA ALSO OFFER COURSES IN SURVIVAL MARTIAL ARTS AND OTHER SECURITY RELATED MATTERS. Pre Instructors Course SALAM & MAY ALLAH HELP YOU IN THIS PRE INSTRUCTORS COURSE THE SAKINA PRE INSTUCTORS COURSE IS THE FIRST ISLAMIC MARTIAL ARTS COURSE IN THE U.K. THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THE FOLLOWING: - 90% MENTAL ENDURACE 600 SQUATS 100 PUSH UPS 100 SIT UPS PHASE ONE: DEMO FORWARD ROLL, BACKWARD ROLL, SIDEWAY ROLL, CARTWHEEL AND EXPLAIN HOW THERE ARE USED IN REALITY. PHASE TWO: DEMO WATER, EARTH, WIND & FIRE ATTITUDES IN REALITY SITUATIONS PHASE THREE: DEMO 5 BASIC TAKE DOWNS 5 BASIC THROWS 5 BASIC WRIST LOCKS 2 KNOCKOUT PUNCHES 2 DEADLY KICKS. PHASE FOUR: DEMO 5 CHOKES 5 LEG LOCKS 5 ARM BARS 5 ESCAPES. PHASE FIVE: 100 PUSH-UPS & 3 ROUNDS WITH THE INSTRUCTOR PHASE SIX: DEMOS THE SAKINA ART OF BONE BREAKING YOU MUST NOW MAKE THE INSTRUCTOR SUBMIT TO PASS THE COURSE SUCESSFUL STUDENTS WILL RECEIVE THE SAKINA INSRUCTORS CERTIFICATE AND OATH OF LOYALTY TO THE UMMAH OF ALLAH DIVINE RELIGION OF SUBMISSION (end) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the strangelove list located at http://www.strangelove.cc To unsubscribe from the list, e-mail: talk-unsubscribe(a)strangelove.cc To get help from a warm body, e-mail: talk-owner(a)strangelove.cc

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Re: USG pulls 'sensitive' info off net
by Subcommander Bob 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

02:49 PM 10/3/01 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 06:38:05AM -0700, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: >> > > Must've never heard of caching.. >The trouble with Google and most other spiders is that they cannot access >the DBs behind the sites. Various industry estimates place the amount of >data not accessible to crawlers at up to 500x the html content. What's >needed are open access data mining sites using more sophisticated crawlers >like http://telegraph.cs.berkeley.edu/ Or for readers to take "Google" as representative of wget-crazed ephemeral rogue libertarian librarians.

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