October 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: delete this judge
by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

from /. "According to The New York Times (free registration required, for those who care about such things), a prominent judge recently wrote an article saying that the delete key should actually delete things, not just hide them away where lawyers and skilled computer geeks can get at them years later. Specifically, he proposes that a statute of limitations be imposed upon electronic messages--that, for example, an obnoxious email you send today could be held against you for six months and six months only." ... The judges original paper is http://www.greenbag.org/ linked off of The Green Bag.

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CDR: Democrats on "hate crimes" in Defense Department bill
by Declan McCullagh 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

NEWS FROM THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADER FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE House Democratic Leader Richard A. Gephardt October 6, 2000 H-204, U.S. Capitol http://democraticleader.gov/ Gephardt Statement on Hate Crimes and Other Pending Legislation "In the last 24 hours, we've had three pieces of evidence that the Republican leadership is not interested in acting on the priorities of the American people. In a flurry of legislative maneuvering, Republicans have taken strong, sensible, bipartisan bills and they have tried to kill those bills by putting forward weak, watered-down versions that do nothing for the American people. "Last night, Republican conferees took a bipartisan, sensible hate crimes bill and they eliminated it from the Department of Defense Authorization bill. Republicans seem determined to file a DOD bill that is stripped of hate crimes, and their actions in the last 24 hours are an affront not only to the American people, but to a clear majority in the Congress. "Republicans defied the will of both Houses of Congress, denied the American people a strong, sensible bill that would have given law enforcement officers the enhanced tools they need to deal with horrible hate crimes, and they prevented the country from sending a strong signal that we as a society will not tolerate crimes committed against people simply because of who they are. "This is a bipartisan bill. The President has supported it for years, the American people support it in overwhelming numbers, and both the House and the Senate have voted in bipartisan fashion to include hate crimes in the Department of Defense Authorization bill. "I will continue to fight with Senator Daschle, President Clinton, and with my colleagues and all Americans who support this common-sense law, and I still hope that we can pass this bill this year and accomplish something meaningful for the American people. "Now, we've also had two other pieces of news in the last 24 hours that points to a pattern; and, sadly, the story with re-importation and with a Patients' Bill of Rights is similar to hate crimes. First, I am deeply disappointed that the Republican leadership has decided to defy the will of the American people and short-circuit a bipartisan effort to craft effective re-importation legislation that might have lowered drug prices for millions of Americans. Instead, Republicans went behind closed doors and came up with an ineffective, partisan half-measure that serves the needs of the pharmaceutical companies at the expense of the American people. "The Republican measure is full of loopholes that will allow pharmaceutical companies to get around the new law. It also sunsets after 5 years, so even if seniors did begin to see lower drug prices as a result of this bill, that benefit will not last. Republicans have once again chosen the side of special interests over the people. Democrats believe that all seniors should have permanent, reliable help with the high costs of prescription drugs, and we support effective, permanent re-importation legislation as a step in that direction. But the most important way to give seniors the help they need is to enact an affordable, reliable, universal Medicare prescription benefit. Republicans have blocked that measure, refusing, even, to let us bring it up on the floor for a vote. Their action on re-importation seems designed to distract us from the much larger issues at hand. "I am just as troubled by a last-minute effort on a Patients' Bill of Rights. Here, once again, they have decided to abandon a bipartisan bill and to seek political cover instead. Today, Republicans proposed a weak Patients' Bill of Rights that fails to give patients the protections they need from their HMO companies. The real Patients' Bill of Rights passed the House one year ago tomorrow by a strong bipartisan margin, and it remains the only bill that will actually do something meaningful for millions of Americans. "Democrats will continue to fight for good, common-sense, bipartisan bills that the American people want and that bipartisan majorities in Congress support: hate crimes--a strong Patients Bill of Rights-permanent re-importation legislation-and a Medicare prescription benefit that will be always be there for seniors. We will continue to work with all our colleagues to accomplish something meaningful in the few short days we have left." ##### Contact: Laura Nichols/Sue Harvey (202) 225-0100

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CDR: Gores teens and drugs
by anonymous＠openpgp.net 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

>4:24 PM 10/3/95 > > >Tipper Gore says daughter knows she did wrong > >Tipper Gore said Tuesday her 16-year-old daughter, cited for underage >drinking last week, "knows she >made a very serious mistake." "She broke our rules and she broke the law. >Shes extremely miserable >and unhappy, I can tell you that," Mrs. Gore, wife of Vice President Al >Gore, said of daughter Sarah. >The teen-ager was cited Friday in suburban Montgomery County, Md., after a >police officer saw her >with an open beer outside a party. Now, Mrs. Gore said, "We are dealing >with it privately as a family >and talking to her like all families should to their teenagers about the >availability of alcohol and the fact >the temptations are out there." > >

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CDR: Ölscheichs oder Schröder ?
by netad＠srv.netad.ch 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

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CDR: Important Membership Information
by announce＠inbox.nytimes.com 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

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CDR: Re: Niiice kitty....
by snit 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

>It would take you years to check five hundred Chomsky citations. His >citations are at best obscure and hard to find, at worst impossible to find. look, digslug, Justin Schwartz is an oxford-trained, yale-trained scholar, now a lawyer with the seventh circuit. he doesn't type things on a publicly accessible listserv where he can easily be quoted and humiliated for saying foolish things since the major new york papers monitor it for political gossip. the man who typed that, justin schwartz, has written and published more than you've typed on usenet so you ought to just STFU&STFD because your attempts to crawl out of the gutter where you seem to happily luxuriate in the scum, grime and waste are embarrassing. the examples you provide never come up with the goods--demonstrate that sources are untraceable, etc. your unpublished dissertation, i take it? it will remain unpublished. slop like that doesn't past the muster. unless you're enrolled in Sally Struther's University, of course. snit

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by Income Opportunity 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

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CDR: RE: Anonymous Remailers cpunk
by Bill Stewart 06 Oct '00

06 Oct '00

At 10:33 AM 10/5/00 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: >So when is the HavenCo remailer going up? I'm not sure that there will be a HavenCo remailer; the alternative is a some-customer-of-HavenCo remailer, or a some-customer-of-a-HavenCo-hosting-customer remailer. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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CDR: Re: Re: Choate physics again
by Michael Motyka 05 Oct '00

05 Oct '00

Wasn't it grounding and Maxwell's equations last time? I can't believe I'm falling for this again but here goes... > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Michael Motyka wrote: > > > >>By the time the coherent radiation (needed to make an image) passes > > > > > >Were not talking holograms, Jimmy-boy > > I didn't get the original message so I'll reply here. > Actually I didn't write this ^ I wrote this : I think what he was trying to convey were the effects of reflection, absortion and diffusion. etc... > No, we're not talking about lasers. But then again 'coherent' simply means > 'arranged' or 'synchronized'. If you don't believe there is coherence in > imaging the rays of light through a camera then you don't have a fucking > clue about optics. > I am not an optics expert but I DO have a clue. And any coherence in the light that hits the film in my Canon as I snap one poorly composed photo after another is purely accidental unless the scene has been painted by a targetting system. What is a laser Jim? LASER Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation An atom in an excited state, ie one that is not in the ground state, may be stimulated to release a photon by an incoming photon. The most interesting part of this is that the emitted photon after the interaction is in phase with the incoming photon and in the same direction. Get lots of these interactions taking place in the right medium and you get a river of photons all in phase. That's what coherent means in optics - in phase. Check your Webster's and please read the definition that says "3. Physics. ..." Go to any optics book. Want references? Thermal radiation ( what you are imaging with your snooperscope ) is not coherent by any definition that I know of. > The fact is, that if you take a lens and form an image there IS most > certainly a level of coherence. You can break that coherence by simply > injecting a fogged piece of glass for example. > You could say that light and an optical system form a "coherent" image because the image is recognizable but that usage might be confusing because of the common and accepted use of coherent with reference to LASER light. Form an image is probably adequately descriptive. > This is what the walls of the house do, they break the coherence of the > original light rays so that no image can be formed on the other side of > the wall. > The walls of the house do not "break the coherence." The more interesting processes that would be going on at and in the walls of the house would be reflection, scattering, absorption, diffusion( thermal) and reradiation. These effects would probably vary widely with construction materials and wavelength. The end result as these wavelengths are incident on a wall might vary from little or no effect, through blurring to outright shielding. > Glass howerver is reasonably transparent and as a result the light doesn't > lose coherence through that. However if you attenuate the light using an > aluminized mylar sheet and then break up the image using the bubble pack > (the little bubbles of air absord the IR and then re-emit it out of phase > with the original stream of photons - that! is coherence), walah. No > usable image the cops can use against you. > What your talking about is reflection, scattering, absorption etc...the coherence of the light don't enter into it. > [Rest of a dumbass rant from another party deleted] > Go back to your physics boooks Jim. You missed it again on this one. Damn I could kick myself for even trying. Mike

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05 Oct '00

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