October 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: Re: FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education
by Trei, Peter 10 Oct '00

10 Oct '00

Funny, reading the Subject line of this, I immediately assumed that the FBI was belatedly admitting that it: the *FBI* needed some 'cyber ethics education'. This is On another note, my Microsoft Exchange (spit) mail client chopped off the 'FBI:' prefix on the subject line of the reply - Any alphanumeric (unspaced) string terminated with ': " gets dropped. Sigh..... [Yes, I know the article is a spoof] Peter Trei > ---------- > From: Tim May[SMTP:tcmay@got.net] > Reply To: Tim May > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:11 PM > To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com > Subject: FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education > > > > > Monday October 9 4:45 PM ET > > FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education > > > By DIANE HOPHEAD, Routers Press Agency > > WASHINGTON (AP) - FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education. > > Thou shalt snoop on other children. > > Thou shalt not hide cybercrimes by using encryption. > > FBI agents are spreading a new gospel to parents and teachers, hoping > they'll better educate youths that privacy in cyberspace can be > economically costly and just as criminal as refusing to narc out > fellow students. > > The Justice Department (news - web sites) and the Information > Technology Association of America, a trade group, has launched the > Cybercitizen Partnership to encourage educators and parents to talk > to children in ways that equate privacy and encryption with > old-fashioned wrongdoing. > > The nascent effort includes a series of seminars around the country > for teachers, classroom materials and guides and a Web site to help > parents talk to children. The FBI is distributing copies of > "MyPersonalCarnivore" to allow children to set up their own > Carnivore-enabled local sites. > > ``In a democracy in general, we can't have the police everywhere,'' > said Michael Vacuous, director of the FBI's National Infrastructure > Protection Center, which guards against computer attacks by > terrorists, foreign agents and teen hackers. > > ``One of the most important ways of reducing crime is trying to teach > ethics and morality to our kids. That same principle needs to apply > to the cyber world,'' he said. > > "We are willing to drop the antitrust action against Microsoft if and > when they meet the legitimate needs of law enforcement," he added. > Asked if he was referring to the proposed "WindowsMe (and Big > Brother)," he added that he could not comment on sensitive programs. >

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by Suraj 10 Oct '00

10 Oct '00

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CDR: Commercial Financing for Small/Large Business
by ConnieFrancis＠cheerful.com 10 Oct '00

10 Oct '00

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CDR: RE: Musings on AES and DES
by Lucky Green 10 Oct '00

10 Oct '00

John wrote: > NIST has stated that the maximum endorsement will be to use > AES for non-classified government information. So the question > will remain of what is better than AES, or to put it another way, > what is not good enough about AES for its use on classified > information. A more likely explanation of the NSA withholding endorsement of AES for use with classified traffic is that doing so would dejustify the continued existence of the code-making groups at NSA. --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> "Anytime you decrypt... its against the law". Jack Valenti, President, Motion Picture Association of America in a sworn deposition, 2000-06-06

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by Dan Bristow 10 Oct '00

10 Oct '00

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CDR: Re: Market Your Business To The World!
by Sean Roach 10 Oct '00

10 Oct '00

Okay, it's bad enough when the list gets spam. It's worse when the list gets spam on sending spam. Good luck, Sean At 12:56 AM 10/9/2000, you wrote: > Take Advantage Of Your Resources Online Now > Consider this: > More People turn to email marketing then any other advertising > median online WHY Its Simple.!! > IT WORKS!! ...

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09 Oct '00

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by ziad salim 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

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CDR: FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education
by Tim May 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

Monday October 9 4:45 PM ET FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education By DIANE HOPHEAD, Routers Press Agency WASHINGTON (AP) - FBI: We Need Cyber Ethics Education. Thou shalt snoop on other children. Thou shalt not hide cybercrimes by using encryption. FBI agents are spreading a new gospel to parents and teachers, hoping they'll better educate youths that privacy in cyberspace can be economically costly and just as criminal as refusing to narc out fellow students. The Justice Department (news - web sites) and the Information Technology Association of America, a trade group, has launched the Cybercitizen Partnership to encourage educators and parents to talk to children in ways that equate privacy and encryption with old-fashioned wrongdoing. The nascent effort includes a series of seminars around the country for teachers, classroom materials and guides and a Web site to help parents talk to children. The FBI is distributing copies of "MyPersonalCarnivore" to allow children to set up their own Carnivore-enabled local sites. ``In a democracy in general, we can't have the police everywhere,'' said Michael Vacuous, director of the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center, which guards against computer attacks by terrorists, foreign agents and teen hackers. ``One of the most important ways of reducing crime is trying to teach ethics and morality to our kids. That same principle needs to apply to the cyber world,'' he said. "We are willing to drop the antitrust action against Microsoft if and when they meet the legitimate needs of law enforcement," he added. Asked if he was referring to the proposed "WindowsMe (and Big Brother)," he added that he could not comment on sensitive programs.

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CDR: Re: Guys, I need help
by wayne 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

cypherpunks(a)toad.com <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> M. Emad Ul Hasan <emad_16(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Subject: Guys, I need help > Your anonymizer.com is blocked in Saudi Arabia via proxy. Can you tell me a way I can see this site 1. go to my site at: http://www.angelfire.com/wy/1waynes/ 2. look in the 'list of proxies' 3. click on the 'clickable' ones - these are CGI proxies and the first few you come across are working for KSA people at the moment. That may be enough for you. If you want more ... At the same site you might download my findProxyNew.pl which (at least) contains many URLs for lists of proxies. If you decide to test them, install Perl (URL is on my downloads page), run findProxyNew with $country set to 'KSA' and it will find any you can use from whatever list you feed it. Expect to find maybe one in 1,000 of the proxies to be any use to you. If you want even more... Get a shell account in a free country and run a redirector there, or your own proxy. For the others who responded, these proxies are blocked in the Middle East countries by IP address range (the whole noproxy.com range, for example, including the name server!), by port number (standard ports like 80, 3128, 8080) are blocked and (within the country-wide proxy arrays) by censoring databases of URL strings (for the 'unwanted' URLs, including CGI proxy URLS). My site details all this. For those cypherpunks who actively believe in freedom of information, the biggest single thing you could do break down this censorship would be to offer a non-dial shell account, on the understanding that it would be used to run redirectors/relays/bouncers and maybe a proxy (junkbuster, say). I solicited about 10 promising looking ISPs in the USA once, for those who were willing to sell shells under these conditions. I had a response rate of about 20%, and finally only one ISP came through - panix.com. It was just too hard for the rest to bother with; obviously my approach was too honest :-) regards, wayne wayne(a)nym.alias.net http://www.angelfire.com/wy/1waynes/

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CDR: Comments on and about e-privacy in Canada
by Robert Guerra 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

Folks: I thank some of you for posting your comments on the e-privacy bulletin board that the CBC has set-up. I'm not sure how long the discussion group will last, so please feel free to continue to share your thoughts on the crypto-canada mailing list <http://crypto-canada.greatvideo.com> Regards Robert Here's a message I really like... http://interact.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/WebX?14@119.UM22aQsobAM^4@.ee768e0 (see e-prvacy discussion section) I think that it should be written into Canada's constitution that ANY information about any Candadian citizen belongs to that citizen. That any agency who wants to store, retrieve, review, transfer or in any way duplicate that information must obtain formal consent from the citizen involved. That every citizen has the right to know what information an agency is storing about them, and who they have shared this information with. I think treating personal information with the same rules as private property would solve our privacy fears. The really scary scenario is that with the proliferation of public video cameras and wireless technologies, our every move may someday be recorded in a database somewhere. Even cars are now being equipped with technologies that track where we are and how we are driving at all times. That is really Orwellian, in my opinion. Cell phones do the same thing by continuously traingulating your position, in fact, if cell nodes didn't do this, cell phones wouldn't work. The next big wave that is coming, with the convergence of television, telephony, broadband internet and wireless networked home electronics is that everything - even your box of Cheerios will have an IP address. I attended a recent lecture at UBC that was given by Dr. William J. Raduchel, the Chief Strategy Officer of Sun Microsystems, and he said that Sun and many other companies are hard at work putting the finishing touches on the technology that will make it possible for your fridge to recognize that you are running out of milk, and automatically add it to your shopping list, and automatically shop for it if you want - but here is the really freaky part: In the near future, Dr. Raduchel said that all advertising will be targeted based on your 'electronic behavior'. Picture this: You come home from work and your house sees you coming and the door opens and the net-enabled television in your livingroom comes on, and there is a commercial for Cheerios that says, "Did you know that the box of Cheerios in your cupboard is almost empty?" - and a coupon for Cheerios will print out of your net-enabled refrigerator, and the General Foods corporation will be able to run a report that tells them exactly how many boxes of Cheerios there are sitting in cupboards in wired homes across Canada, and how full each one is. This is not science fiction - this is reality, and it is coming to a net-enabled home near you. If you think your privacy is an issue now, just wait until your TV set knows what you had for breakfast, and your toilet knows the blood-sugar levels in your urine, which is automatically appended to your medical records. Big brother is here, and he is about to become far more powerful that Orwell could have ever imagined. I encourage you to look this up for yourself, look at the Sun Microsystems website and review the white papers on Jini technology and how companies like Whirlpool are building it into new appliances. Sun is just one example, of course, there are hundreds of companies who enthusiastically embrace these new technologies. Ken MacAllister Vancouver, BC -- "...as we transfer our whole being to the data bank, privacy will become a ghost or echo of its former self and what remains of community will disappear"...Marshal McLuhan -- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)yahoo.com>, Fax: +1(303) 484-0302 WWW Page <http://pgp.greatvideo.com>, ICQ # 10266626 PGPKeys <http://pgp.greatvideo.com/keys/rguerra/>

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oh, sh__
by Somebody 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

Bob, Please be careful about the forwarding of this epistle in it's entirety. The contents might be considered inflamatory. [moi? *I*'m not saying anything here, *you* are... :-) --RAH] But I recommend your synthesizing an opinion about it, and communicating to the usual suspects. See my "bottom line", at the end Well, 1st Data Corp has made their move, and it's a doozy: eONE Global, a new e-payments company capitalized with $600 million ($360 in assets transferred from First Data, $135 in equity investment from iFormation -- a GoldmanSachs, BCG, Genl Atlantic Partners creature -- and a commitment from the parties to kick in another $100 in cash). The headquarters are in Napa (Rutherford). Remember Rutherford Partners? With principals Robert W. Greer, Scott J. Loftesness, Garen K. Staglin? eOne Global has a Garen Staglin, President and CEO, located in Rutherford, CA. eONE Global has a Menlo Park office with a Managing Director by the name of Loftesness. Greer is also involved. Brochure at: http://www.eoneglobal.com Includes a slightly amusing and very gushy whitepaper http://www.eoneglobal.com/whtpaper.html (by Garen) News at: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-3141623.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.ni Oh, yes...and by the way: "eONE Global welcomes inquiries from emerging payment technology companies with a business plan they are prepared to execute against. We require that a prospective strategic partner have proprietary rights to the technology it is presenting." See: http://www.eoneglobal.com/started.html I guess this means Scott has money now. Among the assets they own, or have and equity interest in are SurePay, CashTax, Yclip, MeetChina.com, Reciprocal, PassLogix, Achex, RRE Ventures (?1?) and others. In reality it's mostly the 1stData/EnTrust payment initiative SurePay. Bottom Line: This is a significant event, well capitalized, and an "instant company" because of the the transfer of some FirstData assets. However, their major challenges will be (a) they are already an operational company with a bunch of realworld operating challenges for the management team (who seem more venture, finance oriented), and (b) they don't yet have any breakthrough exciting technologies or products and need to acquire same. I actually wouldn't be too surprised to see them buy back eCashTechnologies, or do a JV with something like Spectrum or Wells/eBay. I'm afraid, though, that (in spite of their brave words about the need for innovation and new models) this venture is going to be inevitably tied to the current banking structure with which FirstData is so deeply in bed. I suspect that Rutherford Partners put up a bunch of half- baked intellectual property (as well as their bodies and a great spiel) to take over management of 1stData's total e-payment strategy. Quite a coup. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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oh, sh__
by Somebody 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

Bob, Please be careful about the forwarding of this epistle in it's entirety. The contents might be considered inflamatory. [moi? *I*'m not saying anything here, *you* are... :-) --RAH] But I recommend your synthesizing an opinion about it, and communicating to the usual suspects. See my "bottom line", at the end Well, 1st Data Corp has made their move, and it's a doozy: eONE Global, a new e-payments company capitalized with $600 million ($360 in assets transferred from First Data, $135 in equity investment from iFormation -- a GoldmanSachs, BCG, Genl Atlantic Partners creature -- and a commitment from the parties to kick in another $100 in cash). The headquarters are in Napa (Rutherford). Remember Rutherford Partners? With principals Robert W. Greer, Scott J. Loftesness, Garen K. Staglin? eOne Global has a Garen Staglin, President and CEO, located in Rutherford, CA. eONE Global has a Menlo Park office with a Managing Director by the name of Loftesness. Greer is also involved. Brochure at: http://www.eoneglobal.com Includes a slightly amusing and very gushy whitepaper http://www.eoneglobal.com/whtpaper.html (by Garen) News at: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-3141623.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.ni Oh, yes...and by the way: "eONE Global welcomes inquiries from emerging payment technology companies with a business plan they are prepared to execute against. We require that a prospective strategic partner have proprietary rights to the technology it is presenting." See: http://www.eoneglobal.com/started.html I guess this means Scott has money now. Among the assets they own, or have and equity interest in are SurePay, CashTax, Yclip, MeetChina.com, Reciprocal, PassLogix, Achex, RRE Ventures (?1?) and others. In reality it's mostly the 1stData/EnTrust payment initiative SurePay. Bottom Line: This is a significant event, well capitalized, and an "instant company" because of the the transfer of some FirstData assets. However, their major challenges will be (a) they are already an operational company with a bunch of realworld operating challenges for the management team (who seem more venture, finance oriented), and (b) they don't yet have any breakthrough exciting technologies or products and need to acquire same. I actually wouldn't be too surprised to see them buy back eCashTechnologies, or do a JV with something like Spectrum or Wells/eBay. I'm afraid, though, that (in spite of their brave words about the need for innovation and new models) this venture is going to be inevitably tied to the current banking structure with which FirstData is so deeply in bed. I suspect that Rutherford Partners put up a bunch of half- baked intellectual property (as well as their bodies and a great spiel) to take over management of 1stData's total e-payment strategy. Quite a coup. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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CDR: Ralph Nader sends privacy survey to Bush and Gore campaigns
by Declan McCullagh 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/09/1933206&mode=nested Nader Sends Privacy Quiz to Bush and Gore posted by cicero on Monday October 09, @02:22PM from the never-liked-those-safeway-discount-cards-anyway dept. Vergil Bushnell of Ralph Nader's presidential campaign just sent us news about a privacy survey. Turns out the Green Party hopeful wants to nail down where rivals George W. Bush and Al Gore stand on things like supermarket videocameras and marketing by Internet service providers. Unfortunately, Ralph doesn't include any questions exclusively on the topic of government surveillance, such as wiretapping, Echelon, or Carnivore -- which are precisely the areas the next Oval Office occupant can do the most to reform. Nader is, typically, focused only on corporate wrongdoing. His privacy survey is attached below. The survey: http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/09/1933206&mode=nested

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CDR: pigs use Inet for domestic intelligence at Phish
by anonymous＠openpgp.net 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

Friday September 22 06:47 PM EDT Undercover Police Go Online To Bust Phish Fans By Contributing Editor Richard B. Simon reports After using the Internet to investigate the reputation and the lingo of Phish fans, undercover law-enforcement agents arrested as many as 90 concertgoers on substance-related charges at the jam bands show Monday in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. Sgt. Larry Wagner of the Cuyahoga Falls Police Departments narcotics division said officers made arrests for 12 felonies and 10 misdemeanors outside the Blossom Music Center. Charges ranged from underage possession of alcohol to felony possession and trafficking in LSD, psychedelic mushrooms and Ecstasy. In the days before the Vermont band arrived in town, Capt. Barry Milich of the Sheriffs Department compared notes with police from other towns Phish had visited, while Wagner went online to research the Phish subculture for tips on how his undercover officers could fit in and understand the lingo. "Our guys will go up and say, Hey, you got any Molly (Ecstasy) or anything like that? " Wagner said. "They dont just sell grilled-cheese sandwiches out there." Wagner estimated that 70 to 80 officers from three agencies the Cuyahoga Falls Police Department, the Summit County Sheriffs Department and the Ohio Department of Public Safety were at the show, mostly in plainclothes, policing about 20,000 concertgoers. But the Phish fans picked up on the police presence quickly and would surround officers making arrests. "We knew when we were being made," Wagner said. "After the first arrest, they stated six up, meaning ... theyre here and theyre making an arrest, and for the mounted unit, it was six up, giddy up. So we were able to figure that out early on. ... Maybe I should have checked the Internet a little bit better before they came. Im back from the old school. I was waiting to hear pig and stuff like that, but I didnt hear any of that." Wagner admitted that some of the undercover officers blended in better than others. "I think Phish fans can tell the difference between Kmart tie-dyes and the ones they get at the concert." Most of the arrests were made before and during the show, Wagner said, while thousands of ticketless fans remained in the parking lot. Agent Rita Raimer of the Ohio Department of Public Safety said the department made 18 arrests in connection with underage possession of alcohol. Ohio penalties for drug possession range from likely probation for first-time offenders to possible jail time for those who have extensive criminal records or were caught selling large amounts. Wagner said all the felony arrests his department made were for "low-grade" offenses, for which the state has no mandatory minimum jail time. A Phish spokesperson declined to comment on the arrests. Many Phish fans follow the band from venue to venue, in the tradition of the Grateful Dead, so the band plays a different setlist each night, playing a mix of earlier tunes such as "Prince Caspian" ( RealAudio excerpt) and newer material such as "The Inlaw Josie Wales" ( RealAudio excerpt), from this years Farmhouse. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/so/20000922/en/undercover_police_go_online_to_…

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CDR: Re: stego for the censored
by Michael Motyka 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

> Bill Stewart wrote: > > > > At 04:30 PM 10/6/00 -0700, Tim May wrote: > > >In places where crypto is illegal, this approach would also likely be > > illegal. > > ... > > >BTW, the issue is a lot more than just "plausible deniability." This > > >may work in the U.S., until the Constitution is further shredded. But > > >"plausibility deniability" is not enough when dealing with the > > >Staasi, or SAVAK, or Shin Bet, or the Ayotollahs. Mere suspicion is > > >enough. > > > > The point is that each message doesn't have decryptable cyphertext. > > It only has a secret-share that no recipient can decode > > until they have enough shares of the same message, > > even if the KGB rubber-hoses them, and the KGB cryptanalysts > > won't be able to find anything more than random noise in the message > > because with <K shares, that's all you can get. > > Now random noise may also be suspicious, but it's less suspicious > > than something that's got more structure to it. > > Even if they do suspect the recipient and seize his computer, > > they'll only get old messages, not the new partially-received ones. > > Not good enough, I'm afraid. As Tim said, if the authorities in an > authoritarian regime _suspect_ secrets are being passed they have > "probable cause" to break out the jumper cables. Unless the holder of an > incomplete secret is willing to spill his guts literally rather than > figuratively, his group doesn't benefit from a secret which can be > detected but not read. > > -- > Steve Furlong, Computer Condottiere Have GNU, will travel > These regimes are likely to suspect conspiracies whether or not they are actually occurring. Look at our McCarthy era. Assume the jumper cables will be applied whether there are secret messages or not. If you want to actually communicate then you have to risk SOMETHING. Scatter-gather is just a mechanism to handle arbitrary sizes of messages and add some potential cover traffic. It is no less safe than any single exchange of stego data. Possibly it is more safe since the data density in the carriers can be made very low and an observer cannot easily isolate a complete carrier set from the cover traffic. Mike

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CDR: Do you need help with your credit cards
by bobby36＠august-savings.com 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

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CDR: Re: Guys, I need help
by Vincent Williams 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

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Regards proxy2.telecom.com.co port 8080 [latency: 10/09/00 10:06:42 EDT] dalnet.bakudapa.web.id port 8080 [latency: 10/09/00 08:35:09 EDT by JeffryWinata] 212.43.196.10 port 1080 [latency: 10/09/00 08:24:06 EDT by devil] 194.65.3.170 port 8080 [latency: 10/09/00 06:26:21 EDT] 195.31.227.14 port 8080 [latency: 10/09/00 02:41:27 EDT by JeffryWinata] 216.36.24.225 port 1080 [latency: 10/08/00 23:58:17 EDT by nothing] willia10.lnk.telstra.net port 1080 [latency: 10/08/00 23:56:36 EDT by nothing] proxy.sonet.pt port 8080 [latency: 10/08/00 18:37:12 EDT] proxy.suhuf.net.sa port 8080 [latency: 10/08/00 17:09:47 EDT] proxy.brunet.bn port 8080 [latency: 10/08/00 16:58:33 EDT] 194.65.52.252 port 8080 [latency: 10/08/00 16:55:29 EDT by 203.23.72.6808] proxy.idn.co.th port 8080 [latency: 10/08/00 16:52:16 EDT] tinfo1.space.ad.jp port 8000 [latency: 10/08/00 16:49:52 EDT by hoho] proxy.spnet.net port 3128 [latency: 10/08/00 16:47:04 EDT] 202.76.128.22 port 8080 [latency: 10/08/00 16:46:15 EDT] smf1-wc2.atlas.icix.net port 8080 [latency: 10/07/00 13:36:51 EDT by RaYmAn^] news.ane.ru port 8081 [latency: 10/07/00 04:15:27 EDT by JeffryWinata] dnssrv.prx.it port 8080 [latency: 10/07/00 04:12:35 EDT by JeffryWinata] ikeaperm.vianet.net.au port 8081 [latency: 10/07/00 04:01:50 EDT by JeffryWinata] 203.26.237.87 port 8081 [latency: 10/07/00 04:01:19 EDT by JeffryWinata] proxy02.sysin.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/07/00 03:51:04 EDT by JeffryWinata] proxy.netwave.or.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/07/00 02:32:42 EDT] ns.infnet.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/07/00 02:28:51 EDT] 237-67-194.tr.cgocable.ca port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 22:10:07 EDT] mail.cns-net.cz port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 22:09:15 EDT] 195.146.96.178 port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 18:52:41 EDT by JeffryWinata] 199.97.48.2 port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 18:48:55 EDT by JeffryWinata] 212.5.134.2 port 8080 [latency: 10/06/00 18:47:38 EDT by CBuHCKO] 216.77.56.90 port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 18:41:07 EDT by JeffryWinata] yrh.com port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 17:28:17 EDT by JeffryWinata] socks.wasantara.net.id port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 17:25:56 EDT by JeffryWinata] proxy.wasantara.net.id port 8080 [latency: 10/06/00 17:22:24 EDT by JeffryWinata] 193.231.232.81 port 1080 [latency: 10/06/00 16:28:48 EDT by Alberto] 164.230.99.2 port 8001 [latency: 10/06/00 02:29:23 EDT by Rewter] 206.55.133.6 port 8001 [latency: 10/05/00 17:11:34 EDT] 208.7.68.194 port 1080 [latency: 10/05/00 05:33:15 EDT] 206.86.247.11 port 8000 [latency: 10/05/00 04:34:32 EDT] cache.infopro.spb.su port 3128 [latency: 10/04/00 22:07:01 EDT] jidar.capinfo.co.ma port 8080 [latency: 10/04/00 16:20:04 EDT] jung.ti.telenor.net port 8080 [latency: 10/04/00 10:46:05 EDT] 216.244.220.3 port 1080 [latency: 10/03/00 14:19:55 EDT by pds-ch35py] 202.76.128.22 port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 12:06:50 EDT by sisyfos] 212.20.114.4 port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 11:49:52 EDT by moi] 24.216.110.15 port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 11:00:53 EDT] 202.160.8.61 port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 09:19:36 EDT] proxy6-fxp0.netspace.net.au port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 04:13:52 EDT by jaca] 213.25.221.132 port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 03:52:42 EDT by brunet] proxy.brunet.bn port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 03:12:25 EDT by Rewter_is_ghey] shkmail.tonichi-kokusai-u.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 03:00:57 EDT by 2ndLtDarksoul] robot.imp.mx port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 02:59:44 EDT by 2ndLtDarksoul] r1m102.cybercable.tm.fr port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 02:59:17 EDT by 2ndLtDarksoul] proxy.suhuf.net.sa port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 02:58:56 EDT by 2ndLtDarksoul] proxy.yaroslavl.ru port 8080 [latency: 10/03/00 02:55:23 EDT by So,Viet!] chaotic.wonderingraven.net port 1080 [latency: 10/02/00 21:26:07 EDT] 203.23.72.6 port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 21:24:47 EDT by PhrackMan] teleserver2.pipemedia.net port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 21:23:51 EDT by PhrackMan] dragons.dal.net port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 19:42:09 EDT by poetic-killer] sunsite.icm.edu.pl port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 17:58:56 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] proxy.coqui.net port 8081 [latency: 10/02/00 17:57:42 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] 203.26.230.254 port 3128 [latency: 10/02/00 17:56:30 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] proxy.africaonline.co.zw port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 17:54:30 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] proxy.cybergate.co.zw port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 17:54:09 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] 194.162.75.23 port 1080 [latency: 10/02/00 17:53:17 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] cache.global.co.za port 3128 [latency: 10/02/00 17:50:18 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] 138.25.8.1 port 3128 [latency: 10/02/00 17:46:40 EDT by 2ndLt.Darksoul] 130.225.40.20 port 3128 [latency: 10/02/00 17:43:46 EDT by 2ndLt.darksoul] dns.som.com port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 17:33:25 EDT by DaRK_CLuSTeR] inktomi.efortress.com port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 17:31:04 EDT by 2ndLt.darksoul] proxy.magusnet.com port 8081 [latency: 10/02/00 17:28:21 EDT] proxy.spnet.net port 3128 [latency: 10/02/00 16:45:11 EDT] tornado.wp.prodigy.com port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 14:41:11 EDT by RaYmAn^] 212.187.37.2 port 8080 [latency: 10/02/00 11:27:37 EDT by 8080] Linux.xitami.net port 1080 [latency: 10/02/00 03:30:31 EDT by Wizard] 206.99.218.240 port 8081 [latency: 10/01/00 23:51:24 EDT] gatekeeper.ci.slc.ut.us port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 20:51:08 EDT] 210.154.59.162 port 1080 [latency: 10/01/00 19:39:48 EDT] dns.sunquest.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 18:39:29 EDT] 210.160.96.146 port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 18:34:36 EDT] dfw2-wc1.atlas.icix.net port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 16:39:50 EDT by me] sp-5.sto.telegate.se port 8000 [latency: 10/01/00 16:23:26 EDT by h.k] proxy.psc.co.jp port 8081 [latency: 10/01/00 15:51:55 EDT] jidar.capinfo.co.ma port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 15:08:38 EDT by khalid] 195.6.197.1 port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 14:20:47 EDT by frisp] bluerobin.mke.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 12:31:28 EDT] msv.jmsis.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 12:29:13 EDT] ns.mobtel.com port 1080 [latency: 10/01/00 08:57:06 EDT by ChainReactor] 207.65.46.21 port 3128 [latency: 10/01/00 08:36:52 EDT by gOdFeLLa] 212.42.224.133 port 3128 [latency: 10/01/00 04:14:37 EDT] firewall.unicom-am.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 10/01/00 01:44:11 EDT by Rey] 208.160.62.30 port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 19:40:26 EDT by Unknown3d] 195.199.69.193 port 1080 [latency: 09/30/00 19:39:52 EDT by Unknown3d] 210.228.160.20 port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 19:39:28 EDT by Unknown3d] 64.19.3.2 port 1080 [latency: 09/30/00 17:38:12 EDT] 209.187.13.18 port 1080 [latency: 09/30/00 16:39:43 EDT by |^ZigFred^|] edtn016755.hs.telusplanet.net port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 11:28:56 EDT by captainVeGa] proxy.planetinternet.be port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 11:12:07 EDT by skorpio00] proxy.aon.at port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 11:01:50 EDT by sascha] 210.161.234.195 port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 10:44:22 EDT] ns0.syscre.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 10:43:06 EDT] solomon.stic.net port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 05:08:36 EDT by moo] inh1ts20-qfe0.ims.bt.net port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 00:10:19 EDT by RaYmAn^] cnclaaasrv.council.net port 1080 [latency: 09/30/00 00:09:51 EDT by RaYmAn^] 200.255.198.247 port 8000 [latency: 09/30/00 00:08:26 EDT by RaYmAn^] dfw2-wc1.atlas.icix.net port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 00:07:50 EDT by RaYmAn^] isu-cache2.isu.edu port 3128 [latency: 09/30/00 00:07:29 EDT by RaYmAn^] bess-proxy1.ousd.k12.ca.us port 8080 [latency: 09/30/00 00:06:48 EDT by RaYmAn^] proxy.rdc1.ab.home.com port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 20:39:35 EDT] proxy.telepac.pt port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 20:25:29 EDT] proxy7-fxp0.netspace.net.au port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 18:51:35 EDT] 199.44.53.3 port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 18:21:36 EDT by aBNoRMaLLy] 210.154.59.162 port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 17:43:17 EDT by bibanu] wonderingraven.net port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 16:40:31 EDT by Rewter] chaotic.wonderingraven.net port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 16:39:00 EDT by Rewter] proxy.lcnet.it port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 15:17:52 EDT] 194.65.38.131 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 09:31:52 EDT] proxy.brunet.bn port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 08:31:38 EDT] 195.211.211.37 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:27:13 EDT by inTERbairros] svcmp12.holoson.co.jp port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 05:21:11 EDT by inTERbairros] bertie.shiga-med.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:17:05 EDT by inTERbairros] dns.sunquest.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:15:53 EDT by inTERbairros] bluerobin.mke.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:14:51 EDT by inTERbairros] bata.cc.titech.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:14:32 EDT by inTERbairros] 210.161.234.195 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:14:19 EDT by inTERbairros] pi.adelphia.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:11:54 EDT by inTERbairros] kiku.asahi-u.ac.jp port 10080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:10:35 EDT by inTERbairros] 196.3.167.135 port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 05:10:15 EDT by inTERbairros] zeus.doruk.net.tr port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:09:30 EDT by inTERbairros] krunk1.xmission.com port 8000 [latency: 09/29/00 04:57:17 EDT by inTERbairros] ns0.apecs.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:06:11 EDT by inTERbairros] ns.rcedu.kyushu-u.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:05:59 EDT by inTERbairros] gate-omega.pbc.adelphia.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 05:02:41 EDT by inTERbairros] speth08.wu-wien.ac.at port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:59:21 EDT by inTERbairros] sfk-nga.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:59:09 EDT by inTERbairros] ns.relaim.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:58:57 EDT by inTERbairros] 210.145.163.18 port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:57:00 EDT by inTERbairros] mail.condor.de port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 04:55:11 EDT by inTERbairros] infosun-fd.rus.uni-stuttgart.de port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:54:55 EDT by inTERbairros] front3.cpl.org port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:49:54 EDT by inTERbairros] ns.kss.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:41:09 EDT by inTERbairros] 194.133.122.44 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:40:01 EDT by inTERbairros] svc.nues.k12.ut.us port 8001 [latency: 09/29/00 04:39:06 EDT by inTERbairros] elpxy01.ce.mediaone.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:38:19 EDT by inTERbairros] elpxy02.ce.mediaone.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:37:51 EDT by inTERbairros] bcom.jtnet.ad.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:33:46 EDT by inTERbairros] ns0.syscre.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:32:12 EDT by inTERbairros] qt-ce.singnet.com.sg port 8001 [latency: 09/29/00 04:25:23 EDT by inTERbairros] bryant2-ha.bryant.edu port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:22:02 EDT by inTERbairros] misawa01.misawa.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:16:03 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.ebisu.ad.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:12:49 EDT by inTERbairros] firewall.unicom-am.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:09:38 EDT by inTERbairros] cache.ican.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:09:06 EDT by inTERbairros] mercury.lngs.infn.it port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:08:23 EDT by inTERbairros] 210.160.40.6 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 04:06:01 EDT by inTERbairros] 203.244.128.55 port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 04:00:38 EDT by inTERbairros] ns1.mitsubishi-seibi.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:59:43 EDT by inTERbairros] solaris.dvz.fh-aachen.de port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:49:29 EDT by inTERbairros] ns1.bryant.edu port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:47:59 EDT by inTERbairros] ars2.arsnet.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:45:54 EDT by inTERbairros] hickory.fernuni-hagen.de port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:44:12 EDT by inTERbairros] teleserver2.pipemedia.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:40:18 EDT by inTERbairros] sunsite.icm.edu.pl port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:39:22 EDT by inTERbairros] robin2.ise.chuo-u.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:37:35 EDT by inTERbairros] risk0a.ris.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:37:23 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy-fuessen.online-service.de port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:36:23 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.lcnet.it port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:35:34 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.idn.co.th port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:35:05 EDT by inTERbairros] mail1.epdc.co.jp port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 03:31:00 EDT by inTERbairros] ndpxy01.ne.mediaone.net port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:33:04 EDT by inTERbairros] meteora.amadagp.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:31:45 EDT by inTERbairros] kinka.gifu-kyoiku.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:29:55 EDT by inTERbairros] hitp-gw.hitp.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:25:14 EDT by inTERbairros] hal.calc.k12.la.us port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:24:19 EDT by inTERbairros] gatekeeper.ci.slc.ut.us port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:24:03 EDT by inTERbairros] fw.yoshida-g.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:23:05 EDT by inTERbairros] dns.jicnet.or.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:22:34 EDT by inTERbairros] kinka.ha.shotoku.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:19:57 EDT by inTERbairros] ose.numazu-ct.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:16:00 EDT by inTERbairros] gemini.chall.ne.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:15:46 EDT by inTERbairros] nexus-1.flash.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:15:24 EDT by inTERbairros] squid.mutugoro.or.jp port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 03:08:42 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.cslouis-hemon.qc.ca port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:08:29 EDT by inTERbairros] msv.jmsis.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:08:13 EDT by inTERbairros] lilac1.hmjc.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:05:48 EDT by inTERbairros] 157.193.40.5 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:02:32 EDT by inTERbairros] gossamer.ksu.ksu.edu port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 03:00:40 EDT by inTERbairros] abchost.abc.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:57:02 EDT by inTERbairros] linux.kcg.gov.tw port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:55:14 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.pipemedia.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:53:43 EDT by inTERbairros] gatekeeper.nissuicon.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:49:02 EDT by inTERbairros] dufay.nichigai.co.jp port 8000 [latency: 09/29/00 02:48:32 EDT by inTERbairros] webcache.dial.pipex.com port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 02:44:26 EDT by inTERbairros] tokyo01.nemic.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:42:16 EDT by inTERbairros] tinfo1.space.ad.jp port 8000 [latency: 09/29/00 02:41:35 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.taegu.ac.kr port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 02:37:27 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.psc.co.jp port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 02:36:45 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.mcmail.com port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:35:25 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.iprolink.ch port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:34:07 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.internord.dk port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 02:33:54 EDT by inTERbairros] panoramix.accessnet.es port 8000 [latency: 09/29/00 02:32:42 EDT by inTERbairros] nebura2.tech.nebuta.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:28:39 EDT by inTERbairros] charlotte.it.wsu.edu port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:24:20 EDT by inTERbairros] dcs.dexter.k12.mi.us port 3128 [latency: 09/29/00 02:22:17 EDT by inTERbairros] gatekeeper.shimane-med.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:17:55 EDT by inTERbairros] bme.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:16:55 EDT by inTERbairros] alpha.barentsnett.no port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:15:49 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.canaan.co.il port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 02:14:06 EDT by inTERbairros] 165.21.83.136 port 8001 [latency: 09/29/00 02:12:50 EDT by inTERbairros] localmachine.mob.ntc.co.jp port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 02:06:10 EDT by inTERbairros] 24-216-136-15.hsacorp.net port 8081 [latency: 09/29/00 02:01:25 EDT by inTERbairros] proxy.imp.ch port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 01:50:41 EDT by inTERbairros] inktomi.efortress.com port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 01:49:09 EDT by o666z] dfw2-wc1.atlas.digex.net port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 01:46:36 EDT by inTERbairros] willia10.lnk.telstra.net port 1080 [latency: 09/29/00 01:44:02 EDT by inTERbairros] 195.211.211.37 port 8080 [latency: 09/29/00 01:40:05 EDT by inTERbairros] andromaca.polito.it port 8080 [latency: 09/28/00 14:20:00 EDT by kiru] proxy.codec.ro port 8080 [latency: 09/28/00 13:30:19 EDT] cache-utr2.casema.net port 3128 [latency: 09/28/00 13:22:59 EDT] proxy.netangola.com port 8080 [latency: 09/28/00 13:22:00 EDT] proxy.nownuri.net port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 23:06:48 EDT by Biarticulado] 195.24.110.15 port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 22:22:13 EDT by Charles] proxy3-fxp0.netspace.net.au port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 20:05:00 EDT by inTERbairros] isu-cache1.isu.edu port 3128 [latency: 09/27/00 20:03:34 EDT by inTERbairros] bess-proxy.integrityonline15.com port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 20:02:22 EDT by inTERbairros] bess-proxy.inficad.com port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 20:01:27 EDT by inTERbairros] jatoronto.org port 1080 [latency: 09/27/00 19:59:47 EDT by inTERbairros] 203.23.72.6 port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 14:11:43 EDT by legsee] 165.117.55.216 port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 14:08:08 EDT by legsee] proxy.telepac.pt port 8081 [latency: 09/27/00 08:54:42 EDT by DJKA0S] proxy.rinet.ru port 3128 [latency: 09/27/00 08:50:53 EDT by DJKA0S] ipshome.mightycard.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 06:24:27 EDT] spider.claritas.com port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 05:59:33 EDT by gOdFeLLa] inh1ts09-qfe0.ims.bt.net port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 05:57:16 EDT by gOdFeLLa] inetserv.fh-wuerzburg.de port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 05:51:26 EDT by gOdFeLLa] solomon.stic.net port 8080 [latency: 09/27/00 05:49:31 EDT by gOdFeLLa] 210.154.59.162 port 1080 [latency: 09/27/00 05:44:08 EDT by gOdFeLLa] 210.146.35.196 port 10080 [latency: 09/27/00 02:47:37 EDT] 209.187.13.18 port 1080 [latency: 09/27/00 02:05:12 EDT by hatOFF] 24.200.145.150 port 1080 [latency: 09/27/00 02:04:02 EDT by hatOFF] 216.36.24.225 port 1080 [latency: 09/27/00 02:03:42 EDT by hatOFF] 213.46.1.77 port 1080 [latency: 09/27/00 02:03:22 EDT by hatOFF] proxy.hpisd.org port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 23:55:06 EDT] 194.65.79.31 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:26:34 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.71.10 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:25:24 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.66.66 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:24:45 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.66.3 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:24:13 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.62.74 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:22:50 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.52.252 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:22:24 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.52.31 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:21:49 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.45.17 port 1080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:18:31 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.38.131 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:17:07 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.15.41 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 21:04:16 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.14.69 port 8081 [latency: 09/26/00 21:02:55 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.14.68 port 8081 [latency: 09/26/00 21:02:23 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.14.67 port 8081 [latency: 09/26/00 20:42:42 EDT by DJKA0S] 194.65.3.170 port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 20:34:39 EDT by DJKA0S] proxy.netangola.com port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 20:19:11 EDT by DJKA0S] proxy2.telecom.com.co port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 18:27:09 EDT by DaRKneSS] proxy.spaceproxy.com port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 16:53:27 EDT] hail.pipex.net port 3128 [latency: 09/26/00 16:46:23 EDT] proxy.kn.bia-bg.com port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 15:46:33 EDT] cf1.lnoca.org port 8080 [latency: 09/26/00 15:46:00 EDT] proxy.cityline.ru port 3128 [latency: 09/26/00 08:03:36 EDT by hieu] 64.19.3.2 port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 23:04:34 EDT by NNastty] willia10.lnk.telstra.net port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 22:39:39 EDT by NNastty] dns.hokuto.ed.jp port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 22:36:54 EDT by NNastty] xmaspt.lnk.telstra.net port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 22:34:55 EDT by NNastty] 195.94.0.36 port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 22:33:29 EDT by NNastty] 210.229.194.18 port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 22:30:43 EDT by NNastty] 194.245.99.30 port 3128 [latency: 09/25/00 13:33:09 EDT by CraigTM] 24.200.24.151 port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 09:32:25 EDT by NNastty] droopy.allnet.fr port 1080 [latency: 09/25/00 09:26:05 EDT by NNastty] rochcache1.roch.uswest.net port 8080 [latency: 09/25/00 08:10:55 EDT by gOdFeLLa] squid.acib.com.br port 3128 [latency: 09/25/00 01:58:36 EDT] 207.211.58.248 port 8080 [latency: 09/24/00 18:51:50 EDT by cyberboy] cache-utr2.casema.net port 3128 [latency: 09/24/00 16:21:12 EDT by alfred] pr1-ts.telepac.pt port 8081 [latency: 09/24/00 16:19:20 EDT by morgan] proxy.iloilo.fapenet.org port 3128 [latency: 09/24/00 16:16:37 EDT by morgan] 202.149.251.5 port 8080 [latency: 09/24/00 13:23:53 EDT by BudiLewiyanto] proxy.free.fr port 3128 [latency: 09/24/00 05:46:12 EDT] mail.mastec-ei-ga.com port 1080 [latency: 09/24/00 04:47:43 EDT by hacker] manwebproxy.nola.navy.mil port 1080 [latency: 09/23/00 22:41:08 EDT by Rewter] enterprise.hale.wa.edu.au port 8080 [latency: 09/23/00 17:20:53 EDT by Boggie] proxy.spaceproxy.com port 8080 [latency: 09/23/00 13:58:34 EDT] proxy.yzu.edu.tw port 8080 [latency: 09/23/00 12:05:03 EDT] proxy.nefonline.de port 8080 [latency: 09/23/00 09:10:01 EDT by basketci_] 195.24.55.245 port 1080 [latency: 09/23/00 05:59:49 EDT by MARIAN17] 216.234.161.83 port 8080 [latency: 09/23/00 05:58:58 EDT by MARIAN17] channels.undernet.org port 8080 [latency: 09/23/00 03:53:03 EDT by aerOwave] 216.77.56.106 port 1080 [latency: 09/22/00 18:16:28 EDT by voo] eu.xnet.org port 8080 [latency: 09/22/00 14:30:37 EDT] 206.131.118.240 port 8080 [latency: 09/22/00 13:42:29 EDT] server.ucatolica.edu.co port 3128 [latency: 09/22/00 06:08:57 EDT] proxy.sat.net.pk port 8080 [latency: 09/21/00 03:57:41 EDT] proxy.netwave.or.jp port 8080 [latency: 09/20/00 19:22:30 EDT] proxy.qatar.net.qa port 8080 [latency: 09/20/00 18:56:49 EDT] solomon.stic.net port 8080 [latency: 09/20/00 18:49:57 EDT] proxy.x-treme.gr port 3128 [latency: 09/20/00 14:52:05 EDT by PearlJam] proxy.netsys.it port 8080 [latency: 09/20/00 10:59:45 EDT by pevio] 194.20.0.13 port 8080 [latency: 09/20/00 01:37:35 EDT] 202.54.31.1 port 8081 [latency: 09/19/00 22:02:31 EDT] pax02f.mipool.uni-jena.de port 3128 [latency: 03/28/00 20:41:38 EST by FreddyG.] cache1.cc.interlog.com port 3128 [latency: 02/13/00 17:43:45 EST] master-proxy.europeonline.net port 8081 [latency: 02/13/00 17:29:21 EST by FreddyG.] mail.bsn.or.id port 1080 [latency: 02/13/00 12:35:50 EST by FreddyG.] proxy.nefonline.de port 8080 [latency: 02/13/00 01:41:09 EST] c111.h202052116.is.net.tw port 1080 [latency: 02/12/00 14:52:20 EST by FreddyG.] billymchales.com port 8080 [latency: 02/12/00 13:58:12 EST by FreddyG.] overloaded.org port 8000 [latency: 02/12/00 13:46:58 EST by FreddyG.] irc.gammaforce.org port 8080 [latency: 02/12/00 13:45:46 EST by FreddyG.] netstar.nwarks-hinckley.ac.uk port 8080 [latency: 02/12/00 13:20:21 EST by FreddyG.] webcacheW10b.cache.pol.co.uk port 8080 [latency: 02/12/00 12:26:08 EST by FreddyG.] cr277137-a.nmkt1.on.wave.home.com port 8080 [latency: 02/12/00 12:01:40 EST by FreddyG.] proxyserv.citra-abadi.co.id port 1080 [latency: 02/12/00 00:50:06 EST] atlas1.gateway.com port 8080 [latency: 02/11/00 15:52:10 EST by KoRn_Klown�] proxy.p-ol.com port 3128 [latency: 01/07/00 00:38:11 EST by GuMyBaRe] ftp.yvrls.lib.wa.us port 3128 [latency: 12/12/99 16:11:37 EST] apache.com port port 80 [latency: 12/10/99 16:53:39 EST] i.am.31337.nu port port 31337 [latency: 12/10/99 16:51:21 EST] 138.25.8.9 port 80 [latency: 12/10/99 16:48:36 EST by lubna] 203.23.72.6 port 8080 [latency: 12/10/99 16:46:54 EST by lubna] proxy.spnet.net port 3128 [latency: 12/10/99 09:17:42 EST by Sliver] ns.infnet.co.jp port 8080 [latency: 12/09/99 23:39:59 EST by AiseJuK] 212.43.196.10 port 8080 [latency: 12/09/99 17:44:25 EST by THE STORMDRINKER] proxy3.brunet.bn port 8080 [latency: 12/09/99 17:36:40 EST by THE STORMDRINKER] 202.160.12.35 port 8080 [latency: 12/09/99 17:32:40 EST by THE STORMDRINKER] ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

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by steve lan 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

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CDR: Internet bearer cryptography patent trusts (was Re: Chaumian cash redux)
by R. A. Hettinga 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

This idea below of a "patent pool" is similar to the bearer cryptography patent trust idea I was kicking around with a couple of investment bankers here in Boston a few years ago... It seems that these guys were sitting on a public shell, and were noticing that both Millicent and DigiCash were both up for sale at the time, and were trying, like every one does, :-), to figure how to make money with them. I suggested that, while the code for Millicent at least might be valuable, that the patents were the most valuable thing about *either* of those businesses. I talked to these gentlemen about the model I had for internet bearer underwriting and how it could pay royalties right off the top to certain global holders of patents like blind signatures, allowing their use even for open source software, and that it might be possible to create something like a publicly held trust to hold those kinds of patents. Just like if someone like when Warren Buffet buys a company, the patent holders would get a liquid publicly traded asset, and the trust would collect royalties as revenues of the corporation, and the stock would go up accordingly. :-). Don't know if it would work, though, and not just for purely financial reasons, either. It seems to me at the outset that unless Chaum has a way to completely kill the usefulness of the blind signature patent and replace it with something better -- and to withstand the inevitable charge from Ecash Technologies that he knew about it at the time of the DigiCash liquidation, which would be a pretty serious legal cat-fight whether the charge were true or not -- that Ecash Technologies has enough funding from Deutchebank and others to make it a long time before the original Chaumian patent portfolio will be on the market again, if ever. The patents expire, speaking of such things, in 2007, after all. Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text

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CDR: Just Imagine...
by apoio＠giganetstore.com 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

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CDR: CDA - cypherpunks distributed archive
by Ralph Seberry 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

We offer: reformatted cypherpunks archives at http://www.lanesbry.com/cypherpunks/ some time ago it was noted that the ftp links from the CDA (cypherpunks archives 92-early 94) at http://www.lanesbry.com/cypherpunks/ were unreliable (at least under lynx). ftp access via ftp://ftp.lanesbry.com/pub/cypherpunks was confirmed as a workaround. I've (belatedly?) changed this to use http file links. (and added a robots.txt file to suggest that search engines not index the whole text.) Please advise any problems with this update. [Links to this archive should not need to change.] thanks, Ralph

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CDR: Guys, I need help
by M. Emad Ul Hasan 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

Your anonymizer.com is blocked in Saudi Arabia via proxy. Can you tell me a way I can see this site

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CDR: Austin Cypherpunks: 10-9-00 Physical Meeting
by Jim Choate 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

HEB Central Market Cafe 38th and N. Lamar 7-9pm. http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html Look for the red covered 'Applied Cryptography' book to identify the table. We normaly meet outside unless the weather is bad. We are expecting continued cool and rainy so we'll likely meet under the outside covered area. Please see the homepage URL for information on joining the mailing lists. ____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CDR: Re: Disposable remailers
by despot 09 Oct '00

09 Oct '00

It is interesting to note the two sides of the same coin...mix protocols in theory vs the realities of implementation on these devices. On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Sean Roach wrote: > If the net is sufficiently large, then the remailers can be considered to > be registers, each holding one message for a random length of time, and > allow reordering just by that alone. Of course, for this to work, traffic > analysis has to be defeated in another way. Probably in ZKS's planned, but > last I checked, not implemented, constant activity among nodes. This scheme is extremely open to attack, especially when you take into account that many of the nodes will be hostile. Even if the underlying mix protocol were robust enough to protect the sender over hostile nodes, traffic analysis, as you mentioned, is a major weakness (for example, messages could be traced throught the network). The idea and papers brought forth in David's post might be of use here. Instead of passing one message at a time through nodes, a list of messages could filter through the nodes. But, those damned memory constraints... > Of course, the more traffic, the easier it will be for the intranets where > these things are set up to locate them, and take them down. If the devices' communication piggy-backed on common protocols like http, it would be easier to mask, especially in high traffic areas. But, the communication would need to permuted in some way that a generic pattern match would not detect it. Otherwise, IDS vendors and the like will add rules to detect such traffic. > The nodes ping each other on a regular basis, if a node fails to respond to > a ping, that node is written off. Perhaps the next general cover traffic > includes information that such-n-such node appears to be compromised. If a > node receives NO pings, then it might also write itself off, and blank memory. Who do you trust becomes an issue if nodes pass information around. > Or did you mean in addition to disposible remailers, instead of ways to > hide, distribute them? I meant in addition to, but that is an interesting distribution scheme. As the world becomes more and more connected and devices get smaller and more powerful, the opportunity to plant and exploit rogue, networked modules becomes far greater. A person could have a great deal of fun with this stuff. The government already does. -andrew

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