December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: I need a compiler!
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 6/1/98 7:11:19 PM Central Daylight Time, J- Dog(a)Elitehackers.org writes: << (1 4 Evil)> Ya, sure...Sarcasm...You laugh at me but dude...William is to busy with > Netscape trying to dick him up the ass for me to call him again... ok hippy... >> Hey, I didn't say that! Why are you talking to me? Stan

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Re: Counterpane Cracks MS's PPTP
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 6/1/98 10:38:20 PM Central Daylight Time, chris(a)cybernet.co.nz writes: << > Auto-Launch attached binaries in E-Mail <-- Can we say GoodTimes? Can anyone confirm that this has indeed been fixed yet? >> It was my understanding, that the so-called GoodTimes virus was a farce, apparently aimed at specific commercial spammers. Stan

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Tax revolt book
by Christopher Turner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

C-punks, my apologies if this book was discussed on the list back when it first came out... in the course of cleaning up and packing in preparation for our move, I came across Bill Branon's first book, _Let Us Prey_. W/out going into any detail, the backdrop of the book takes place in present-day America where a sort of tax revolt is going on - over 1/3 of the taxpayers filed a Form 4868 - an automatic extension form - and 22% of those filers failed to enclose a check of any kind. There's a great part where the prez is freaking out because 1/3 of Americans are getting a gov't check of some kind and where the hell are they going to get the money when over another 1/3 of Americans won't pay their taxes. I highly recommend it. Take care all, and watch your six, Chris --- Ubi dubium ibi libertas Where there is doubt, there is freedom -Latin proverb

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by net10＠mail.domain-serv.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: I need a compiler!
by Iain Collins 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> And J-Dog, what is up with the fucked up lingo...This ain't the movies... >fucked up lingo? gee, I am very sorry if your small mind can not make out >my words.. but I can assure you that this is NOT fucked up lingo... go >read some h4x0r Br0s and then tell me about how fuct up my lingo is.... > >Latez >JD > >btw... congrats on your really kool superl33t juno.com account.. you are >r33t now. Both of you lose all all guru/elite points accumulated thus far by wasting bandwidth due to (repeatedly) inapproproately posting to the CypherPunks mailling list. Doh! Iain Collins, icollins(a)sol.co.uk

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Reeves 5/15/98 conclusion
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday 5/31/98 7:03 PM Orlin I erred by not transcribing Reeve's conclusion in his Friday 5/15/1998 Albuquerque Journal editorial Our policy is not stupid. It's hypocritical and delusionary, but not stupid. What was stupid was to actually believe that countries like India, Pakistan, China, and Iran and Israel, too, would act on American words and illusions rather than on their own national interests and fears. This American blunder of intelligence and intellect is not another inside-the-beltway, Ken-and-Monica joke. This is an affair of state, a failure of state. Officials should not be subpoenaed or mocked; they should resign or be fired. Let ALL hope for release of the documents requested at http://www.jya.com/whp052898.htm and peaceful settlement of another American blunder of intelligence. Later bill

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punching the Great FASCIST Satan in the nose
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday 6/1/98 7:16 PM John Young The SAND report you posted at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm was a DELIBERATE attempt to send NSA a message. I had some help from Sandia classification. Bill Subject: refrigerator magnet Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:16:01 -0600 From: bill payne <billp(a)nmol.com> To: masanori fushimi <fushimi(a)misojiro.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk Monday 6/1/98 6:05 PM Masanori I put the refrigerator magnet 1945 509th COMPOSITE GROUP 1995 FIRST ATOMIC BOMBARDMENT 50th ANNIVERSARY in the mail to you today. Reason I sent the magnet is to show THAT THERE ARE SOME REALLY-SICK MINDS [see reverse side of magnet] IN POWER in the US. Just got off the phone with John Young. Governments, including Japan, TRY to mess with peoples' minds. There is a book on this. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/quicksearch-query/002-2147604-1106833 David Felton But I have a solution. I do not read e-mail. At this time. I also believe in what Kahn wrote Thursday, March 20, 1980, 09:30 David Kahn addressed Congress, the Committee on Government Operations. Kahn stated to the committee, A final benefit is that refusing to restrict cryptologic studies erects yet another rampart against the chipping away of American liberties. Is this rampart, again, worth the danger to national security? Yes, because the danger is not as acute as the N.S.A. wishes people to see it. N.S.A. wants people to think that publication of cryptologic material would slam shut its window into the Third World countries. In fact such publication has little effect ... The national security dangers are not so great as to dismantle individual freedom. For all of these reasons, then, no limitation should be placed on the study of cryptology. And beyond them all lies something more fundamental, in the end, will probably prevent any restrictions anyway. It is called the First Amendment. I thank you. I hope you see that I am using the seventh amendment. http://www.jya.com/whp052898.htm And even more adamantly I believe For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul. Kahn on Codes page 172 Best regards bill

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subscribe richardt@midgard.net
by Richard Threadgill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Pauline Hanson's speech in parliament
by Global Web Builders 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

G'day, The media are once again blatantly misrepresenting the issues that Pauline Hanson raised in parliament yesterday. We would invite you to see for yourself a verbatim transcript of what she said and view direct links to the ATSIC and UN home pages which confirm her concerns on the issues raised such as the planned "formation of independent Aboriginal states" in Australia. View: http://www.gwb.com.au/un.html Be informed! Do not believe the lies the media tell. Please print out her speech and distribute it freely. GWB Scott Balson

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Last Call For Participation - RAID 98
by dac＠zurich.ibm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Last Call For Participation - RAID 98 (also available at http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) First International Workshop on the Recent Advances in Intrusion Detection September 14-15, 1998 Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium We solicit your participation in the first International Workshop on the Recent Advances in Intrusion Detection (RAID 98). This workshop, the first in an anticipated annual series, will bring together leading figures from academia, government, and industry to talk about the current state of intrusion detection technologies and paradigms from the research and commercial perspectives. Research into and development of automated intrusion detection systems (IDS) has been under way for nearly 10 years. By now a number of systems have been deployed in the commercial or government arenas, but all are limited in what they do. At the same time, the numerous research and prototype systems developed have been more engineering than scientific efforts, with scant quantitative performance figures. As we survey the field of automated intrusion detection, we are faced with many questions: 1. What research questions have yet to be answered (or even asked) about IDS? 2. What are the open challenges, limitations, and fundamental concerns about present intrusion detection methodologies? 3. What metrics can we use to measure IDS performance and thus compare different systems and methodologies? These measurements should highlight the successes and expose the limitations of current IDS approaches. 4. What factors are inhibiting transfer of research ideas into functional deployed systems? How can those be addressed? 5. What is the role of a deployed IDS? How should or can it fit in with other security systems? 6. What are the typical IDS operating environments? What can be done to configure IDS to unique operating environments? 7. What are the challenges for IDS in very large environments, such as the Internet? 8. Is it time to contemplate IDS standards? What are the advantages and disadvantages of standardizing components of IDS? What forums (e.g., IETF, ISO) would be appropriate for pursuing such standards? 9. What are the problems of turning the results of intrusion detection tools into legally reliable evidence? What are the problems of admissibility and of courtroom presentation? We invite proposals and panels that explore these questions or any other aspect of automated intrusion detection. We especially solicit proposals and panels that address: 1. New results related to intrusion detection methodologies and technologies. 2. Innovative ways of thinking about intrusion detection; for example, the applicability of R&D in the fields of survivable and/or dependable systems, data mining, etc. 3. User experiences and lessons learned from fielded intrusion detection systems. 4. IDS for emerging computer environments (e.g., Java, CORBA, and NT). 5. Commercial intrusion detection systems. We have scheduled RAID 98 immediately before ESORICS 98, at the same time as CARDIS 98, and at the same location as both of these conferences. This provides a unique opportunity for the members of these distinct, yet related, communities to participate in all these events and meet and share ideas during joined organized external events. GENERAL CO-CHAIRS ***************** Marc Dacier (IBM Zurich Research Laboratory, Switzerland) Kathleen Jackson (Los Alamos National Laboratory, USA) PROGRAM COMMITTEE ***************** Matt Bishop (University of California at Davis, USA) Dick Brackney (National Security Agency, USA) Yves Deswarte (LAAS-CNRS & INRIA, France) Baudouin Le Charlier (Universite de Namur, Belgium) Stuart Staniford-Chen (University of California at Davis, USA) Rowena Chester (University of Tennessee, USA) Deborah Frincke (University of Idaho, USA) Tim Grance (National Institute of Standards and Technology, USA) Sokratis Katsikas (University of the Aegean, Greece) Jean-Jacques Quisquater (Universite Catholique de Louvain, Belgium) Mark Schneider (National Security Agency, USA) Marv Schaefer (Arca Systems, USA) Peter Sommer (London School of Economics & Political Science, England) Steve Smaha (Free Agent, USA) Gene Spafford (Purdue University, USA) Chris Wee (University of California at Davis, USA) Kevin Ziese (Cisco, USA) SUBMISSIONS *********** The program committee invites proposals for both technical and general interest talks and panels. Each talk or panel submission must contain: 1) A separate title page with: The type of submission (talk or panel); The title or topic; and The name(s) of the speaker or panel chair and probable panelists, with their organizational affiliation(s), telephone and FAX numbers, postal address, and Internet electronic mail address. 2) A brief biography of each participant. 3) The time desired for the talk or panel. Talk proposals must also include an abstract that is a maximum of 600 words in length. Papers are not required, but if included as an addendum, will be used as supplementary information for the evaluation of the talk proposal. The program committee will allocate each accepted presenter either a 15 or 30-minute slot for the talk, based on the complexity and interest of the proposed topic and the wishes of the speaker. The presenter will be informed the slot length when notified of acceptance. Panel proposals must also include a description that is a maximum of 300 words, the format of the presentation, and short rationale for the panel. The program committee will allocate accepted panel sessions one to two-hour time slots, based on the complexity and interest of the proposed topic, the number of panelists, and the wishes of the panel chair. The panel chair will be informed the slot length when notified of acceptance. All proposals must be in English. Plan to give all panels and talks in English. We must receive all proposals before June 15, 1998. We strongly prefer they be submitted by e-mail to raid98(a)zurich.ibm.com. Various formats (ASCII, postscript, Word, WordPro, Framemaker, and LaTex) are acceptable. If necessary, hardcopy proposals may be sent to: Marc Dacier Global Security Analysis Lab IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Saeumerstrasse 4 CH-8803 Rueschlikon Switzerland Each submission will be acknowledged by e-mail. If acknowledgment is not received within seven days, please contact the one of the General Co-Chairs. A preliminary program will be available at the RAID web site (http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) by August 1, 1998. CORPORATE SPONSORS ****************** We solicit interested organizations to contribute to student travel expenses for RAID 98. Corporate sponsorship will cost 2500 US$, and will entitle the organization to four general attendance workshop passes. Please contact a General Co-Chair for more information. REGISTRATION ************ Registration will open on 1 August 1998, at which point detailed registration information (including a list of recommended hotels) will be provided at the RAID 98 web site (http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) Travel instructions to Louvain-la-Neuve are available at http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/crypto/acces-lln.html (courtesy of the UCL Crypto Group). Registration will close on 21 August 1998. Late registration will continue until 4 September 1998, but only on a space-available basis, and will include a penalty of 50 US$ (in addition to the fees specified below). Fees will be levied on a sliding scale, as follows: Student: $200 Speaker or Panel Member: 250 US$ General attendance: 350 US$ This fee will include workshop sessions, banquet, hosted reception, luncheons, light breakfast service, and coffee and refreshment breaks. There will be no special rate for one-day or other limited attendance. Payment in full will be required at registration. We are negotiating a registration discount for those attending both the ESORICS conference and the RAID or CARDIS workshops, and for interchangeable workshop registration. Further information will be available when detailed registration information is posted. PROCEEDINGS *********** On-line workshop proceedings will be posted on the RAID web site (http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) immediately following the workshop. It will include: 1) The final program; 2) A list of corporate sponsors; 3) A list of attendees (subject to each attendee's approval); 4) The submitted abstract and slides used by each speaker; 5) The submitted description and rationale for each panel; 6) The slides used by each panelist; and, 7) Written position statements from each panelist. In addition, the most outstanding workshop participants will be invited to submit an analogous formal paper to a special RAID edition of the refereed journal "Computer Networks and ISDN Systems." IMPORTANT DATES *************** Deadline for submission: 15 June 1998 Registration opens: 1 August 1998 Notification of proposal acceptance or rejection: 1 August 1998 Preliminary program posted to web: 1 August 1998 Registration closes: 21 August 1998 Late registration closes: 4 September 1998 Workshop: 14-15 September 1998 MORE INFORMATION **************** For further information contact one of the General Co-chairs: Marc Dacier IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Switzerland E-mail: dac(a)zurich.ibm.com Tel.: +41-1-724-85-62 Fax.: +41-1-724-89-53 Kathleen Jackson Los Alamos National Laboratory USA E-mail: kaj(a)lanl.gov Tel.: +41-1-724-86-29 Fax.: +41-1-724-89-53 The RAID 98 web site: http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98, The ESORICS 98 web site: http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/esorics98. The CARDIS 98 web site: http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/cardis98/

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