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[from offlist] Re: Stormfap go bye-bye now...
by Razer 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

Because I'd prefer to keep convos started on-list, onlist. On 08/28/2017 08:00 PM, Steven Schear wrote: > I am unconvinced this solution betters all our freedoms. > > "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most > of one's time defending *scoundrels*. For it is > against *scoundrels* that oppressive laws are first aimed, and > oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at > all." > > H.L. Mencken > Fixing the "scoundrel problem" is an intractable problem I have ZERO time for. Allowing an ideology to be promulgated negating human existence due to some unalterable trait is simply suicide for a society, and as can be seen from history, any society nearby. Ps. I take issues with Snopes interpolation of the famous AH quote about 'destroying the nucleus' where Hitler also said the Nazi rise was assisted by the violent counter-elements. <http://www.snopes.com/adolf-hitler-smashing-the-nucleus/> The way to resolve that is for Non-violent Anti-fascist elements to BUTT THE FUCK OUT and practice TACTIC-TOLERANCE. If the media wants to talk to them about it, JUST TELL THE MEDIA YOU ARE THERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING, and desist from ANY discussion of other organizations OR THEIR TACTICS. There is a large Non-violent Anti-fascist element in the US that did NOT really exist to any degree in Germany (White Rose, etc, were microscopic), and UNLESS tactic tolerance is practiced by all US antifascist elements, no matter which side ascends, they will lose to Fascism. Rr > Warrant Canary creator > > On Aug 28, 2017 7:51 PM, "Razer" <g2s(a)riseup.net > <mailto:g2s@riseup.net>> wrote: > > > Oldest white supremacist site shut down after complaint > > By JAY REEVES Associated Press > > August 28, 2017 12:03 PM > > BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - The founder of the internet's oldest white > supremacist site said he was trying to get back online Monday after a > company revoked its domain name following complaints that it promotes > hatred and is linked to dozens of murders. > > Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader who has operated > stormfront.org <http://stormfront.org> > since 1995, said he didn't receive any warning before Network > Solutions > blocked the use of the stormfront.org <http://stormfront.org> name > on Friday. > > Stormfront.org had more than 300,000 registered users, Black said, > with > traffic increasing since a violent white nationalist rally in > Charlottesville, Virginia. > > Popular with the KKK and neo-Nazi groups, the site included forums > where > users sometimes promoted white power events. > > "I'm talking to my lawyers, and that's about all I can do right now," > Black, of West Palm Beach, Florida, said in a telephone interview. "I > can switch to another domain, but it might wind up the same way." > > Another major white supremacist website, The Daily Stormer, was > previously shut down by the web-hosting company Go Daddy and then > Google > after the violence in Charlottesville. > > The Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law said the > stormfront.org <http://stormfront.org> shutdown followed > complaints it filed with Network > Solutions alleging the site promotes not only hate speech, but deadly > violence. > > A spokesman for Network Solutions didn't immediately return an email > seeking comment. > > Users of Black's website have been implicated in more than 100 > killings, > according to the complaint, including 77 people slain by neo-Nazi > Anders > Breivik at a camp in Norway in 2011. > > "Especially in the wake of tragic events in Charlottesville and the > spike in hate crimes across the country, Stormfront crossed the > line of > permissible speech and incited and promoted violence," said a > statement > by Kristen Clarke, executive director of the Lawyers' Committee for > Civil Rights Under Law. > > Black, speaking about the shutdown during an online radio show Monday, > said his site had rules against promoting violence or any crime. > > Black was a state KKK leader under former Klan Imperial Wizard David > Duke, who appeared on the radio show following Black and expressed his > "full support" for Black and the website. > > "He was the first major site defending the rights of white > people," said > Duke. > > Black has been involved in the white supremacy movement since the > 1970s > and was convicted in 1981 for his role in a right-wing plot to > overthrow > the government of Caribbean island nation of Dominica. > > =30= > > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/artic… > <http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/artic…> > >

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[RUS] WW3 - Deep State! - Money! - The world will end tomorrow ...
by Zenaan Harkness 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

But don't worry, be happy - kids around the world are still singin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXUWepSak4 And the world will go on - I've been a bit of Le Happy Fear Mérchanté myself, consider this as guilt atonement :)

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Future historians will recall the war between 4chan and LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner
by Razer 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

The Alt-Right and Antifa Are Waging a New Kind of Internet Warfare Jacob Siegel, Vice Aug 30 2017, 8:25am Intelligence and surveillance powers that once belonged only to militaries and state spooks are now available to anyone with a high-speed internet connection. Live long enough and you may hear future historians recall the war between 4chan and an art collective called LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner. They'll tell the story of how anonymous, interconnected imageboard users gathered clues from public video footage, like passing aircraft and the position of stars, to geolocate the roving, anti-Trump art project He Will Not Divide Us, put on by actor Shia LaBeouf and his collaborators. Records will show that the people on the group's trail—pro-Trump activists, impish saboteurs, and budding neo-Nazis—didn't need high-end spy gear. Instead, they found their mark by collecting and processing public information through decentralized and supposedly leaderless networks. It might one day look, in retrospect, like a form of social automation: continuously updating intelligence assessments converted into real-world effect by volunteer foot "soldiers" acting without orders. Or maybe the saga will be remembered as a trial run of sorts, when tactics later used in domestic guerilla warfare first appeared as sinister pranks. Whatever happens next, the genie is out of the bottle, and intelligence and surveillance capabilities that once belonged only to militaries and state spooks are now available to anyone with a high-speed internet connection. Military theorist and futurist John Robb, who wrote the influential 2008 book Brave New War: The Next Stage of Terrorism and the End of Globalization, developed the concept of "open-source insurgency" to describe emerging forms of conflict. You can see a version of it at work in the current season of political upheaval and clashes in American cities. Of course, it's violence in the streets that captures most of the attention, especially after a car plowed into a crowd amid the neo-Nazi spectacle in Charlottesville, killing counter-protester Heather Heyer and injuring many more. But in the background, much of the fighting is being done online. Memes, trolls, bans, doxes, sock puppets, and targeted disruption campaigns like the one used against LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner are being deployed in a cycle of attacks and counterattacks that, much like traditional military intelligence and information operations, set conditions for the next round of physical confrontation. The foundation of open-source insurgency is what Robb calls "superempowerment": "an increase in the ability of individuals and small groups to accomplish tasks/work through the combination of rapid improvements in technological tools and access to global networks." That increase, Robb argues, "has enabled small groups to radically increase their productivity in conflict." It's a concept that helps make sense of the seemingly outsized cultural clout of the alt-right, a movement built on beliefs that fail to attract more than fringe support in national surveys... In full with links: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xxmad/the-alt-right-and-antifa-are-wagi…

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Money the Root of All Evil? Not With Buddhist Coin.
by Cecilia Tanaka 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

# Money the Root of All Evil? Not With Buddhist Coin. https://cointelegraph.com/news/money-the-root-of-all-evil- not-with-buddhist-coin "Money and religion often leads to corruption, but now there is the “Karma Token” to stop this."

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Privacy invading hardware is "ok" since they're private companies and have a "click yes" policy - was Falkvinge on Infopolicy
by Zenaan Harkness 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

The war marches on. Good luck folks, Zenaan ----- Forwarded message from Falkvinge on Liberty <noreply+feedproxy(a)google.com> ----- From: Falkvinge on Liberty <noreply+feedproxy(a)google.com> Reply-To: Falkvinge on Liberty <rick(a)piratpartiet.se> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:21:00 +0000 Subject: Falkvinge on Infopolicy Falkvinge on Liberty /////////////////////////////////////////// Hardware maker: Give up your privacy and let us record what you say in your home, or well destroy your property Posted: 30 Aug 2017 11:00 AM PDT http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Falkvinge-on-Infopolicy/~3/K5X-Q7MMSiU/?utm_… Privacy:Hardware maker Sonos has a new privacy policy, and is telling users that unless they agree to it, their devices may cease to function entirely. Of course, since people bought these objects, theyre those peoples property. And since Sonos is taking an action that they know will break these devices, Sonos is effectively saying theyll willfully destroy your property unless you comply and give up your privacy. This is a new low. Sonos is a high-end sound system maker, famous for being the first brand to have synchronized music in different rooms with an off-the-shelf device system. This week, they announced a new privacy policy, where they say theyll be collecting a lot of data about you, including listening in to your room and (in a roundabout way) recording it. People were justifiably quite upset. It is in response to this community reaction that Sonos does the unforgivable: Sonos states that if people dont accept the new privacy policy meaning give up their privacy in their own home completely Sonos is going to willfully destroy those peoples property. The customer can choose to acknowledge the policy, or can accept that over time their product may cease to function, the Sonos spokesperson said, specifically. Sonos is particularly sneaky about the part where they record sound. They say in their blog post that they dont keep the recordings of sound recorded in your home, with the new Voice Assistant. However, they point out that they share their collected data with a large number of parties, the services of which you have requested or authorized where people tend to read requested, but where authorized is the large part. Further, they point out that they share recorded sound with Amazon under all circumstances, and Amazon is already known to keep recordings for later use by authorities or others, so the point is kind of moot. We dont keep the recordings, we let others do it for us would be a more straightforward wording. As ZDNet notes, the communitys reaction has been quite hostile to the manufacturer who threatens to destroy their property, and not without justification. For my personal purchasing choices, behaving like this is enough to get on my blacklist of manufacturers, just like when Sony willfully infected its customers with rootkit malware in 2005, and Sony made it onto my blacklist. (Its a high bar to get there, and still, hardware makers keep inventing new audacious ways to clear that bar.) Syndicated Article This article was previously published at Private Internet Access. (This is a post from Falkvinge on Liberty, obtained via RSS at this feed.) -- You are subscribed to email updates from "Falkvinge on Liberty." To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now: https://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=6jnmdaCtotQWwCIRiTE4TB… Email delivery powered by Google. Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, United States ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: Banned accounts on pastebin -- and Google-censored websites like Cypherpunks
by Zenaan Harkness 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

I don't know, it's a random list, but to take a guess, I can imagine some folks don't like how I just speak my mind. If you check out the "cypherpunks" mailing list, you will see a few very vocal individuals, one e.g. calling themselves "Razer" (not his real name), and he consistently flings around ad-hominems like "You're a Nazi" whilst refusing to actually engage in the debates or questions that are raised, and, similarly, Razer fully supports Noam Chomsky's declaration that "some facts are less equal than other facts," and therefore that you are a "problematic person" if you engage in discussion around those other facts that Noam doesn't like. It is astounding thta in this so-called "age of enlightenment, some people are strongly taking such anti-science positions, including "world renowned" professors such as Noam Chomsky - for this particular example, see the thread starting here: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-August/038838.html See how "relatively normal" people recognize this statement by Noam: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-August/038962.html And see in particular how Razer recognizes this statement: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-August/038968.html And finally, note how if you google search for the first part of that message's Subject, e.g. "Noam Chomsky again shows his fascist chops", you get this response: No results found for "Noam Chomsky again shows his fascist chops". Even if you add "site:cpunks.org" to the end. Google is censoring cypherpunks and other websites where people express politically incorrect views for example "all facts should be treated equally as facts and analyses for their scientific relevance/ utility" - such assertions are dangerous to TPTB. Good luck, and be careful whom you trust, Zenaan On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:11:43AM +0200, Mark McCarron wrote: > Hi everyone, > If you are receiving this email, then your name was found on a pastebin > aimed at clearing out trolls and other people from security related > mailing lists. See here: > https://pastebin.com/Wy98Q3TJ > Now, I created a new form of theoretically secure cipher. So, I am > wondering what your crime was? > --- Free, fast and secure email: https://www.eclipso.eu

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Re: Future historians will recall the war between 4chan and LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner
by My 31 Aug '17

31 Aug '17

> Razer g2s at riseup.net > Thu Aug 31 07:51:00 PDT 2017 > > Convo should have ended at x > because Fascists never change their minds > Confirmed doublethink fascist. Your cognitive inertia and bias never ceases to amaze.

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Future historians will recall the war between 4chan and LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner
by My 31 Aug '17

31 Aug '17

> Razer g2s at riseup.net > Wed Aug 30 09:26:15 PDT 2017 > > > Alt-Right and Antifa > neo-Nazi vs counter-protester > HWNDU > reading Vice > These hacks can't into basic timelines or narratives. Do you even know what happened ? None of these things are even related. > war between > This isn't even a thing. It is a game of capture the flag run by efbeiniggers to train more /pol/ice officers and other fags. > LaBeouf, Rönkkö, & Turner > There was a thread about this already, when it was actually happening. Where the fuck were you ? lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-January/035315.html

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Wikileaks DNS hacked
by My 31 Aug '17

31 Aug '17

> CANNON cannon at cannon-ciota.info > Wed Aug 30 20:24:19 PDT 2017 > > wigileags was hijacked > It is a fucking trap. Julyin is ded or compromised. Fake videos. Gif related. Video without JavaScript: 8ch.net/player.php?v=https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d9fb098478757824dec02…

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Paragon & other crypto cannabis communities
by My 31 Aug '17

31 Aug '17

> Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com > Wed Aug 30 14:17:33 PDT 2017 > > marijuana > cannabis > These are not the same thing. > blockchain quality monitoring > Can only do quantity with computer. Quantitative measurements is exactly what we need more of /s. > legal cannabis > Implying illegality. Do you know anything ? Pepe Cash is a way better way to use a ledger: rarepepedirectory.com/?page_id=1405 Pic related.

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