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Mailing Lists Dying - Yahoo: Get Your Archive Copy and Requests Now
by grarpamp 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

"Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites." "All public groups will be made private or restricted." https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html Verizon is zero featuring and privating all of Yahoo's public mailing lists. https://groups.yahoo.com/ https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups As before, you can search for and scrape lists of interest yourself. Or post a link to the specific lists and people will scrape them.

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Re: Scientists Accidentally Recreate Big Bang Detonation in the Lab
by Razer 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

404: https://www.ucf.edu/news/ucf-researchers-discover-mechanisms-for-the-cause-… I think whoever wrote the article made up a link. Tis a pity. Just think ... the Pentagram could have weaponized it at blackhole size cost-to-the-taxpayer and... Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail On November 5, 2019 12:47:07 PM PST, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >https://futurism.com/scientists-accidentally-recreate-big-bang-explosion > > >Scientists Accidentally Recreate Big Bang Detonation in the Lab >------------------------------------ > >That's a stupid headline. They did nothing of the sort. >And yes, I have to laugh at people who worry that 'scientists will >create a new Big Bang that will swallow the Earth'!They, too, will do >nothing of the kind.Big black holes do swallow in matter and energy. >Tiny black holes, far smaller than a neutron, are enormously >exothermic.They will break up in 10E(-24) second, with virtually nobody >aware of that, except for scientists who read their instruments. > Jim Bell

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Clueless "engineers".
by jim bell 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

With a laser, researchers say they can hack Alexa, Google Home or Siri https://news.yahoo.com/laser-researchers-hack-alexa-google-131738948.html

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The Fed's DCoin - dissertation - diddling $$ "facts" - more "not"QE helicopter money mo/mo than 2008 - [MONEY]
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

So the Fed's helicopter money (for now for "banks only" still) QE program is in top gear already, with endless headlines about "not QE" and "everything's fantastic, just a little insurance money printing". But of course, between the lines, the fact is that in comparison to QE-1, QE-2 and QE-3, this QE-"officially not QE", aka QE-4 aka QE-infinity, is now pumping out MORE "not QE, just insurance" dollars than at the very peak of the post-2008 global financial crisis QE money printing exercises, on a month for month comparison basis. We're "not doing QE, please believe" and yet the money printing, just a couple weeks after "NOT QE!" started, is already above previous all time highs. "Not QE"? Now -that's- hysterical muh grits :D More like "this is QE infinity helicopter money, we might have to do QE for the people soon too (MMT, people's QE, "a living wage for all", UBI, universal basic income, etc), as this is the last dying gasp of the present methematically intended chaos so grab it while it's hot, mkay?" :D Literally if any of us did such money printing, this would be called counterfeiting. But this is the inglorious "Federal Reserve Bank" which, for those who got the memo, is neither federal, nor a reserve, bank. The Fed' is a private bank. Further, the Fed' and its "federal" minions, are beholden to the BIS, the Banco de Internationale Settlemente, or in English, the Bank of International Settlements, which, of course, is another private bank! HA! I know, I know, "if only I'd thought of that" you're thinking :) The BIS, le banc de White Knight, the ultimate granter of SDRs (special drawing rights aka "print to yer heart's content" money printer-feiting), the last hope of the mega oligarchs and Goldman global hedge trimming money sachs, diligently developing a new global digital coin: "why thank you my dear cypherpunks, you have certainly been generous to provide a genuinely global coin minting tech - we are most pleased, now, kindly, do fuck off and pay your taxes!". Digital Currencies, Stablecoins, and the Evolving Payments Landscape Governor Lael Brainard Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Speech, October 16, 2019 https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/brainard20191016a.htm The Globalist One World Currency Will Look A Lot Like Bitcoin https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-27/globalist-one-world-currency-will… Central Banks: Own Digital Currencies for Global Payments... https://www.americanexpress.com/us/foreign-exchange/articles/digital-curren… Fed Official Says Digital Central Bank Currency Is 'Inevitable ... https://www.coindesk.com/fed-official-says-digital-central-bank-currency-is… US Lawmakers Ask Fed to Consider Developing 'National Digital Currency' https://www.coindesk.com/us-congressmen-ask-fed-to-consider-developing-nati… ["US lawmakers ask" - now THAT's hilarious! They are told -exactly- what to ask, "and get the effing legislation started before I whip yer arse!" Firetruckin' deceiving puppets! ] Guess whose (or is that whoms ? :) the BIS belongs to? -- Lord Jacob de Rothschilds Lord of the bankers, Deign of de Red Door, banker of (all Western) bankers, le officiale Order from Chaos master (daŋkə schön Lucifer), ready and willing to prance in on a white horse (<cough>Bretton Woods<cough>) and (re)institute - a NEW, - fabulous, - chaos decimating - all singing - all prancing ponzi, I mean pony, - to save your world with another cycle of order pre ordained to end in yet another cycle of chaos, then order then .... <rubs hands gleefully> FedEggsellent </> [ s/Lord Jacob Rothschild/his sons/ per preference ] "Aaand ... it's gone!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVk25ZvTkU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FOth96O0bg Me thinks a few folks might be gettin' just a wee wee pee pee poo poo little fed up (no pun intended) with Monty Burns' Fed! Tired o' bein' a slave yet, human? Or ready to LEAP into yet another order-chaos-order century? Let's see what humans are capable of choosing in the next couple fedeggcellent years :) Sleepwalking Toward A Crisis - Got Gold? Sun, 11/03/2019 https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/sleepwalking-toward-crisis-got-gold http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/sleepwalking-toward-a-crisis-got-gold/ ... But for those who don’t have their head in the sand, clinging desperately to the “hope” offered by the misdirecting Orwellian propaganda, it’s difficult to ignore the message signaled by the legendary levels of insider selling. Someone is not telling the truth – The Fed once again last week increased the size of both the overnight and “term” repo operations. Starting Thursday (Oct 24th) the overnight repos were increased from $75 billion to “at least” $120 billion and the term repos (2 week term) of “at least” $35 billion were extended to the end of November, with two “at least $45 billion” term repos thrown in for good measure. The Fed is also outright printing helicopter money for the banks at a rate of $60 billion per month (via “T-bill POMOs”). At the height of the last QE/money printing cycle, the Fed was doing $75 billion per month. So whatever the problem is behind the curtain, it’s already as large or larger than the 2008 crisis.. ...

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Call for ideas: How do we deal with the forged Cypherpunks email archive?
by jim bell 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

The response (or, perhaps in many cases, the lack of it) on this list to the discovery of the amazing fraud of the forgery of (at least) the 1995 version of the Cypherpunks archive has been, well, amazing. I get the impression that there has been a certain...lack of enthusiasm for this task. At least, not nearly enough useful commentary. No, I don't necessarily expect that the forgers are still here, but maybe their ideological and political 'allies' remain. Put simply, maybe 'statists' didn't and don't like AP, and they want to do anything possible to delay or defeat it. And, they know or guess that some of their ilk were presumably acting in 1995, engaging in discussings that the government (?) eventually wanted to conceal. They did not want to leave a not-so-paper trail. Their ideological brethren on CP, today, if any, want to continue to conceal and protect those 1995, and the data forgery that subsequently happened. Take this with the levity I intend. I ask that each of you provide suggestions as to what to try. But I don't want to give you an easy out by saying that if you cannot think of anything you, personally, can accomplish, you are excused. If you have a good idea, and you throw it out to us, somebody else might like it, add to it, and maybe even accomplish it. Think of this as brainstorming, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming . At the same time, some of you might be reticent: Eventually, I believe we will identify those responsible for misconduct on the list in 1995, but also those people who forged and faked the archives. I want to expose the people who, now, are in league with them. Think of this as a Rorschach test. You will likely be judged, by others, based on the credibility of the proposals you make. I have already identified the problem, and made a number of suggestions. I'd say it's YOUR turn. >From the article on brainstorming: "Osborn's method: Osborn claimed that two principles contribute to "ideative efficacy," these being: - Defer judgment, - Reach for quantity. [6] Following these two principles were his four general rules of brainstorming, established with intention to : - reduce social inhibitions among group members. - stimulate idea generation. - increase overall creativity of the group. - Go for quantity: This rule is a mean of enhancing divergent production, aiming at facilitation of problem solution through the maxim quantity breeds quality. The assumption is that the greater the number of ideas generated the bigger the chance of producing a radical and effective solution. - Withhold criticism: In brainstorming, criticism of ideas generated should be put 'on hold'. Instead, participants should focus on extending or adding to ideas, reserving criticism for a later 'critical stage' of the process. By suspending judgment, participants will feel free to generate unusual ideas. - Welcome wild ideas: To get a good long list of suggestions, wild ideas are encouraged. They can be generated by looking from new perspectives and suspending assumptions. These new ways of thinking might give you better solutions. - Combine and improve ideas:As suggested by the slogan "1+1=3". It is believed to stimulate the building of ideas by a process of association. [6] | | | | | | | | | | | Brainstorming In other words, brainstorming is a situation where a group of people meet to generate new ideas and solutions ar... | | |

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Huge success - fully empowered womban, UK News Anchor IVF pregnancy! - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Success and high flying, m' ladies! Ladde: you see it, you climb it! There are no glass ceilings. Early 30s, and could no longer conceive. 6 years, $100,000 and 1000s if injections later, and Hanna Vaughan Jones finally conceived via IVF. A science miracle before our eyes, folks! What wonders this modern world provides :) For a truly positive story, read on. Old Woman Says “It’s Okay to be Angry About Being Childless” After Spending £80,000 on Fertility Treatment http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/old-woman-says-its-okay-to-be-angry-about-bei… [young, very attractive, fertile female image not attached] ... ‘I never felt hatred towards the mothers-to-be that I love, but I didn’t like the fact that it would creep up on me when I saw pregnant strangers. It was so out of character for me, and I had no idea what they’d been through. ‘There were so many conception attempts, it’s a struggle to remember every round in detail, but the wounds from the lows will be forever etched in my memory.’ ... Know that you too, can be both successful, and successfuly get pregnant! And remember goys and gals, men can't get pregnant: UK: Woman Loses Job for Saying Only Women Can Have Babies http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/uk-woman-loses-job-for-saying-only-women-can-…

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Whom, specifically, is our greatest ally? - (spoiler: Australia) - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

There is one particularly notable nation which "has NEVER ONCE, in its entire history, fought along side American troops, in any major conflict. Not in Korea, not in Vietnam, not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan." US: Would that, kind and informative Sir, be Israel? AU: 'At's riiight maaate! 'At's fookin' riiight! AU: Now which muffas out there are ya bloody mates, cunt ?!@?! AU: 'At's riiight maaate, fookin Austraya mate! Fookin Aus-stray-ya!! And to highlight the comparison, chad-monger DSBBS stormer bro "anon" high lites up the rite royal right for ya, punk! : "This cliche is up there with “this zioshill fought for your freedumbs by slaughtering a million Iraqi civilians, over the WMD hoax.” Israel has NEVER ONCE in its entire history fought along side American troops in any major conflict. Not in Korea, not in Vietnam, not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan. You know who did fight alongside us in those wars, and in both world wars? Australia. Australia is our greatest ally. Israel is our most insidious parasite." [Some song ya prolly member the tune of but not the name, freel free to insert the name of the actual song if you 'member it and can be fooked.] Yep-pi dee doo dah, yes sir I ay! Australia's a won-der-ful, matey you say? Yay! Stan-din be-side us, on ev-ver-ry day! Wonderful feelz, in, every way! Hey :D Lookin' for a matey there, cunt? Look this way an' 'ave no fear - we's ya mate - but ya bloody knew that already didncha cunt? [nods vigorously, slightly embarrassed] Glad to see y'all waking the fook up :) 'Bout bloody time too ya bloody nigger :D Youse all goin' bloody crazy over there - prolly 'cause every bloody bastard out there tryin' stab a fookin knife in ya back, grab ya sheilas by the pussy, take ya fookin jobs and outsource all ya fookin industry! No, fookin, wonder, that youse are goin' fookin insane! Fook me cunt, dunno how ya holdin' up as well as y'are - bloody miracle I tell ya, bloody miracle already! Don't worry mate, we'll watch the fook out for ya!! Knives in the back and thieves in the night? Not us, mate! Not fookin' us mate - but ya knew that already, we know. And we know we all just need that friendly pat on the back 'casionly, we know - life's tough sometimes - right royal fookin bitch yeah? - and that's when ya call on ya bloody mates! ( Least ya fookin' 'membered us, cunt :D ) No love lost ya silly cunts - love yer all the same ya hear? <shakes head> Bloody muffas :D Let's get this shit sorted eh? Heh heh, cunts gone wild I tell ya :D Peace, cunts! Let's create our fookin' world alright ... Who is Our Actual Greatest Ally? http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/who-is-our-actual-greatest-ally/ ... Along with backing us up in every war, Australia has never gotten caught spying on us, they’ve never attacked our ships, and they’ve never sent Australian dual citizens to take over our foreign policy and send us to fight wars against New Zealand or Indonesia. I would also feel much more comfortable sending billions of dollars to Australia, if we’re going to send billions of dollars to someone. At least they might use it for something good, or at the very least, not use it to harm America and Europe. Plus, Australia has given us some of the greatest culture. Nick Cave, Steve Irwin – just to name a couple. [ heartwarming pics not attached ] And to name another one – the one: Saint Mel himself. [ anuddah heartwarming pic of a grinning shit kicking chuckling cunt also not attached ] (Although I guess Mel’s dad was American, so he is like, the master race result of mixing of the blood of the two greatest allies.) ...

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"illegitimate law-enforcement needs"
by jim bell 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

I was just looking through a couple of the earliest messages on the 1996 CP archive file. This was one email: >From cypherpunks(a)MHonArc.venona Wed Dec 17 23:17:14 2003 From: shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:09:30 +0800 To: Brad Dolan <winkjr(a)teleport.com> Subject: Re: CSPAN Currency Creation Hearings Message-ID: <v02120d01ad0e3032db00(a)[192.0.2.1]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain At 19:04 1/1/96, Brad Dolan wrote: >I caught part of it. > >The general theme was,~"we're going to establish a `partnership' with >digicash / crypto firms to ensure that our `legitimate law-enforcement >needs' are designed into the products."~ I sincerely doubt that there will be any 'partnerships' between DigiCash and law enforcement. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. --------------- quote from email ------------- On seeing this, it immediately occurred to me, suppose we had asked those people, "Okay, Sir, what ILLEGITIMATE law-enforcement needs" would you want us to include as well?"Okay, I'm just in a funny mood tonight. Jim Bell

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Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF
by Razer 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Fwiw, for those who aren't aware... The point of trolls like this one, 'xorcist', and cyberpiggie et all is to stalk individuals posts on lists with garbage so people start to think, whenever the one being targeted posts, "Oh fuck that means I'm gonna see all that shit from xxx(a)xxx.xxx again and wish the targeted person would stop posting and just lurk. Stupid... Simple... Social engineering. Rr

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Sim Theory
by grarpamp 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

So many people have proposed we're simulated... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis Now why would such an extremely advanced civilization / collective want to simulate us? Is this an unanswered question? Certainly they have long since - solved biology, live forever, down/up load their brains against trauma - solved life and mobility throughout their universe - lost and forgotten their prehistory - etc They could sim anything they want. So why sim us? Because something happened to them, something very big, something serious and existentially threatening. And now they're *desperately* trying to learn about death, life, humanity, the individual... something they lost but is still encoded in them just enough to let them think of making the sim...

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