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I'm trying to understand site https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/
by jim bell 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

In the last couple of days, I wanted to remind myself of the timing of the first appearance of my Assassination Politics essay on the Cypherpunks list. My recollection is that I published Part 1 on the Digitaliberty mailing list, maintained by Bill Frezza, on FIDOnet. At that time, I was unaware of the existence of the Cypherpunks email list. At some point, somebody saw my essay, and posted a reference (or a copy) to Cypherpunks, I believe. And at some point, I was invited to the Cypherpunks list. But over 24 years later, I don't recall the exact timing. I know, I believe, that Part 2 wasn't written until later in July, 1995. So to recall this, I just searched for 'cypherpunks archive'. I found the site listed in the title, figuring that it would contain the information I sought. https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/ That looked promising. I looked at: mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki which, promisingly, showed the years 1992-1999. So far, so good, Since the information I sought should have appeared in 1995, I clicked on that year, Weirdly, the information for March and April and June was not present, Huh? This was, pretty much, the time frame I needed to search, Am I imagining things? Could somebody look for various strings, like "Jim Bell", or "Assassination Politics", or "AP", etc? Well, it's not like my existence was entirely deleted. https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/authors/jim_bell_jimbell_at… But something very weird is going on, The information I sought, is not included, Is this a mere accident? What is the pattern, here? Jim Bell

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Re: Your Cypherpunks archive
by Ryan Carboni 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

Hmm, meme arrows seem appropriate >Be foreign SIGINT >See so many billionaires and influential men connect to a livestream over Tor >Access the server >Just a guy literally sawing a person in half Okay. Yeah. I guess not everything is lost forever.

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Re: Your Cypherpunks archive
by Ryan Carboni 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

Yes, but I've heard it becomes quite inconvenient to do something and pretend that it didn't happen, because you have no idea why the consequence occurred?

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new group formed last year - Marginal Dissidents Anonymous - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

I must have missed this one, apparently there's a 10 step program y'all might be interested in. Amazing the wheat you can miss amongst the chaff... Here's copy pasta of someone's experience: John Anon: Hi, I ... this is hard, sorry. I'm a marginal dissident. I've been denying this to myself and others for a long time now. It's really, you know, such a relief to be able to say that to you. Mod: That's really good, John. Go on - how did it start for you? JA: Well it was the memes really, they kept calling me. Like most of you (I assume) I tried to ignore them for a long time, but I sneaked a read here and there, you know, after my family had all gone to sleep. My work started really suffering, my family never saw much of me at all ... [Crying and tissues handed out] JA: Sorry. I just, I just couldn't stop you know, I learned how to Gimp and that rush, it was just such a rush, so many Gimpers kept cheering us on, even though we were all anons, and all these boards just started popping up - 4chan, 8chan, GroyperChan, even some strange French sites that allowed unlimited meme forwarding. [JA seems entranced.] Mod: John? JA: Yes? Mod: You were talking about memes? JA: Oh yes, I'm so sorry, where was I? Mod: Memes! JA: Yes, that's right, memes ... well many of us started storming the chans with meme after meme after meme, it was anuddah shower ya know? And then the chans couldn't take the heat, so Amblin Memer created this forum, the daily memer - it was, you know, it was just so totally out there we could hardly believe it. It was gift to all us margindal dissidents, such an amazing gift it had to have come direct from Pepe you know? [Lots of nods and a few grunts of confirmation.] JA: Then one day, and I'm sure you're all familiar with it, trolls started shutting us all down - everyone who'd ever memed, exactly 6 million of us from memory, it was exactly like another holocaust! We had torrents of memes one day and BAM! the next, all showered! Many of us lost our jobs, we were being outed in public, and it was the greatest crime known to millenials - the meme! Lynch mobs were cut loose and the lame stream media doxxed and pilloried everyone they could identify, especially when The Great Orange Memer forwarded one of our memes, which was simultaneously both ... Mod: John! [John abruptly interrupted and looks a little shocked...] Mod: John, you know we're not supposed to use such big words as "simultaneously", you've agreed we have to begin being compliant and you've also agreed that this is a safe space for YOU, where you can begin to be compliant and give up being a dissident. Try using the word "at the same time". Go on, you can continue now John. JA: Um, sorry, yes, but "at the same time is 3 ... sorry I mean 4 words, not one? Mod: Do NOT challenge me JOHN! You know the rules, and the court has very kindly allowed you to come here and participate in this safe space, and you know this is your last chance before The Public Outing. And you know that if you repeat any of the content of this safe space publicly, you will automatically be outed. Please John - I barracked REALLY hard for you to get this chance, Madam "Is Not President Since 2016 And Never Will Be President You Evil War Mongering Biatch" was not pleased with my overruling her on this one, she said "That's a bit Rich, Seth!" but then proceded to allow me, sorry I mean YOU, this one chance. Mod: So PLEASE John, don't blow it this time, or there's nothing more I can do for you ... Mod: OK class, we'll take a short break as this has been rather intense - repeat after me now - "I am a man, not a meme." All: I am a man, not a meme. Mod: I am compliant, and this brings peace. All: I am compliant, and this brings peace. Mod: I was a marginal dissident, but now I am compliant in peace. All: I was a marginal dissident, but now I am compliant in peace. Mod: Thank you! Thank you so much everybody, you've been so very peaceful, and John, remember the rules! I'll see you all tomorrow. ... to be continued ... add your continuation below.

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Facialized: Feds Building Total Face Surveillance System
by grarpamp 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/31/aclu_facial_recognition/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21412356 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21417541 https://regmedia.co.uk/2019/10/31/aclu-fbi-facial-recog-lawsuit.pdf https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 The ACLU has demanded the release of the TLA trio's guidelines and rules regarding what the union terms "face surveillance technology," well as details of any contracts or pilot programs it has with private companies over the technology. The FBI, DoJ and DEA have refused to provide information on what programs, pilots of policies they have in place over facial recognition technology. The FBI has a larger database of over 640 million faces... seemingly run by an internal FBI unit called Facial Analysis, Comparison and Evaluation (FACE), The policies covering use of that database is still unknown, as are the systems that federal government uses to carry out facial recognition. What is known is that several companies have contracts with the government for facial recognition, including Amazon. Again, the details of those contracts are unknown. "The best argument against democracy is a 5 minutes conversation with the average voter" "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." https://ibmandtheholocaust.com/

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Anarchism Takeaways and Learnings From Alex Jones
by grarpamp 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

Everything I Learned From Alex Jones - A Tribute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_UWmEu_3Ko The Best Enemies Money Can Buy: An Interview with Prof. Antony C. Sutton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTDvLmEBESY Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Antony Sutton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c Antony Sutton - The Order of Skull and Bones - Antony Sutton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YWFC1HY74 Austrian Economics and Libertarianism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn6TXqgyj_M Deregulated Roads: The Netherlands Experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs16TYCuR1k https://www.youtube.com/user/LibertyInOurTime/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid Terrorstorm: Final Edition - Full Length - Full Quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6s81lmGAL8

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Macaulay Culkin Demonstrates Eating a Pizza
by Ryan Carboni 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pzm1lQX0qU

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Re: I'm trying to understand site https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/
by Ryan Carboni 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

Assassinations politics come off as one of those blunt metaphors that are easily misinterpreted. Jim Bell doesn't seem clever enough to come up with it so I think he stole the idea from someone else.

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Non-trivial to figure this out about the West
by Ryan Carboni 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

The West is run by horrendously incompetent morons, lead by bloodthirsty sociopaths who have no idea why they keep getting accused of horrendous crimes. After all, people who reach such positions tend to be very gullible and naive. Fortunately for them, everyone is well understanding and protective of them since they are such nice people. Anyway, if the West goes in any direction but the direction as by their guided hand, they suddenly develop a backbone and enforce their principles.

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May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles. - was U. S. A.! A-me-ri-cah, f--- yeah! - How to rule the world, U.S. style
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Oct '19

31 Oct '19

----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> ----- From: Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> To: CypherPunks <cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:41:09 +1000 Subject: U. S. A.! A-me-ri-cah, f--- yeah! - How to rule the world, U.S. style http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integr… Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over some time: "So let us recount the western position: - It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial integrity of other countries and the inviolability of borders in Europe - However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be trampled at will - Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial integrity of its constituent republics seeking independence was holy - Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav constituent republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina was holy, the territorial integrity of Serbia was not - Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia - Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia - Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo Serbs could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo - Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under NATO military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede from Ukraine under Russian military control May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles. " ----- End forwarded message -----

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