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Re: [Cryptography] WSJ: WH wants to meet Techies in DC re encryption
by grarpamp 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jerry Leichter <leichter(a)lrw.com> wrote: > the point of the attacks on cryptography have nothing to do with *their* accuracy. Truth and effectiveness in political debate have all too little to do with each other. > > Remember when Microsoft used to attack Linux for being anti-capitalist? Someone - I forget who - proposed using Microsoft marketing techniques against them: Every time anyone who wanted to help the campaign mentioned "the Windows operating system", they should *always* say "the deeply flawed Windows operating system". Repeat a phrase often enough and it becomes part of common knowledge. This is how marketing works; this is how politics works (not that it's easy to draw a line between them any more). > > The fact is, LE *is* trying to get the government to dictate how to build the products sold to you and me and all the liberals and all the civil libertarians and all the NRA members and all the Trump followers and everyone else out there. And they are trying to dictate that they be built in ways that *hurt us as individuals*, in the name of what *they claim* is some greater good. Stopping that isn't going to happen by cryptographers talking to other cryptographers about what a dumb idea "golden keys" are. The most effective way of stopping would be convincing those who are the natural audience for the "help LE stop the bad guys" pitch to instead see the issue the same way they see gun control (also pushed as a way to "help the LE stop the bad guys"). > > This is politics now, hence not really appropriate for this list - though these political decisions will have profound impacts on how we will be allowed to deploy crypto, so *some* discussion is unavoidable. > -- Jerry It's entirely appropriate and relavant because the crypto people and tech / code world in general are too head down at the keyboard and haven't yet figured out how stand up and win (forever), nor how to go AFK for a minute and and partner with various potential armies. There's only so much you can do with a keyboard, the rest awaits in the real world. Subject: Reaching the Sheeple, Building a Cpunk Symbiot Army https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-November/010895.html

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Re: [Cryptography] WSJ: WH wants to meet Techies in DC re encryption
by grarpamp 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Jerry Leichter <leichter(a)lrw.com> wrote: > Let them come for our encrypted phones and they'll be coming for our guns next! Stop them now! > > [Only half a :-) - get that meme spreading and just watch support for legislation on this matter splinter.] Subject: Reaching the Sheeple, Building a Cpunk Symbiot Army https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-November/010895.html

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Re: [Cryptography] WSJ: WH wants to meet Techies in DC re encryption
by grarpamp 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Henry Baker <hbaker1(a)pipeline.com> wrote: > http://www.wsj.com/articles/paris-attacks-fan-encryption-debate-1447987407?… > http://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-stymied-by-islamic-states-use-of-encryption… > http://www.wsj.com/articles/nsa-apple-chiefs-decode-encryption-views-144531… > http://www.wsj.com/articles/hacker-killed-by-drone-was-secret-weapon-144071… > “There is a solution out there and there’s a way to get to it but this isn’t the month to be starting down that path,” said James Lewis, a cybersecurity expert and former Clinton administration official > He and the Center for Strategic and International Studies, where he is a senior fellow, had planned a forum on encryption policy this fall. After the Paris attacks, he postponed it. Wtf is this, there's no solution, it's all or nothing. > Since Paris, Sens. John McCain, (R, Ariz.), Dianne Feinstein, (D, Calif.) and other lawmakers have said they want to ensure investigators can access the content of encrypted communications. > Mr. McCain has said he wants to pursue legislation. Pretty lame position for a supposedly brave POW Nam Vet to take. > One technology executive acknowledged mixed feelings. “While I continue to feel that outlawing end-to-end encryption would be both ineffective and a slippery slope for society, I’m also aware that I have limited knowledge of all the scary things happening in the world today,” said Ted Livingston, chief executive of Kik Interactive Inc Governments should give full awareness, including most importantly of their own doings. Unfortunately, they refuse to. Because their own doings are far more scary than any ragged band of street thugs. Including creating the thugs in the first place.

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Re: Russia bans purchase of foreign non-niche software in Russian state agencies
by Anton Nesterov 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

Ivan Markin: > Anton Nesterov: >> And if you thought that opensource will take place of foreign >> proprietary software, it's not true. Only in the form of proprietary >> Russian product using some GPL/etc. codebase in violation of these >> licenses. > > Hmm. Are you sure about violation? As far as I know legal status is > still unclear in Russia. So in case of violation there will be no > regulation. No regulation no violation. Voilá! > Anyway they would just sell super overpriced Uslugi (installation > services etc.) and it would look like "this software is purchased" (from > "our" company obviously). > GPL doesn't need special regulation, it should work by-design everywhere. Russian civil code even mention free licenses specially (article 1286.1), so there is full legal basis, although I can't remember any cases when that article was used in court (probably there was none). There is semi-opensource GNU/Linux distribution called Astra Linux based on Debian and used by Russian govt that violates GPL by not providing source codes to their KDE3-based DE https://tlhp.cf/astra-linux-violate-gpl/ (funny that Astra Linux was created specially for govt decree about moving state agencies to the free software). There is proprietary OS MSVS based on RedHat used in military which not only violate GPL by not providing source codes, but even removed most of copyright notices. etc., etc. -- https://nesterov.pw GPG key: 0CE8 65F1 9043 2B11 25A5 74A7 1187 6869 67AA 56E4 https://keybase.io/komachi/key.asc

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Whistleblowers: How NSA Created the 'Largest Failure' In Its History
by grarpamp 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/11/22/1359237/whistleblowers-how-nsa-creat… Former NSA whistleblowers contend that the agency shut down a program that could have "absolutely prevented" some of the worst terror attacks in memory. According to the ZDNet story: "Weeks prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks, a test-bed program dubbed ThinThread was shut down in favor of a more expensive, privacy-invasive program that too would see its eventual demise some three years later -- not before wasting billions of Americans' tax dollars. Four whistleblowers, including a congressional senior staffer, came out against the intelligence community they had served, after ThinThread. designed to modernize the agency's intelligence gathering effort, was cancelled. Speaking at the premier of a new documentary film A Good American in New York, which chronicles the rise and demise of the program, the whistleblowers spoke in support of the program, led by former NSA technical director William Binney."

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Re: [Cryptography] Crackdown on *rental vehicles* expected after terrorist attacks
by grarpamp 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Henry Baker <hbaker1(a)pipeline.com> wrote: > https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/9-young-men-and-their-paths-to-terror-… > > 'Several people on the block did see two rental cars used in the attacks' > At least 40 people were killed, many of them sitting outdoors on a mild November evening.' Blah blah blah, cry me a fucking river. Terrorism ain't shit, and ain't shit to be afraid of. Meanwhile, 1.4 MILLION people died in random car crashes in 2013, of which 68,000 of them were poor little children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventable_causes_of_death Perspective... get some.

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Western media: "224 Russians dead? They deserved it. 130 French dead? OMG the world must grieve!"
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

One particular paragraph from the following opinion piece stands out, in a sense a brief modern follow on from Solzhenitsyn. http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/week-seven-russian-intervention-syria… "Oh how much I wish most people in the West could understand Russian read the Russians newspapers, watch Russian talkshows or listen to Russian conferences! They would see something which they have been conditioned to consider impossible: far from fearing the West, most Russians find it crippled with narrow-minded consumerism, devoid from any real moral or ethical values, fantastically ignorant and provincial and suffering from terminal infantilism. Even the tiny pro-Western minority now gave up on defending the West and, at most, it retorts against the typical tsunami of anti-western arguments something like “what about us – are we not as bad?” or even “let’s not sink down to their level!”. It is quite amazing to see that happening in a country which used to almost worship anything western just 20-30 years ago! I should add that if the most despised and ridiculed country must, of course, be Poland, France is not far behind in the list of “most pathetic”, As for the USA, it is the least despised adversary simply because most Russian respect the US for defending whatever it perceives has its national interests and for making Europe it’s “bitch”. The Russians always say that to get something done one must talk to the USA and waste time with its European colony."

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cry-bullies
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

Sometimes lack of terminology is disempowering - that which is unspoken ("un-named") dominating a conversation online or offline. For anyone appreciative of succinct terminology, perhaps "cry-bully" might be useful in certain conversations you have. Courtesy Daniel Greenfield. SJW = social justice warrior Z --- http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260687/islam-social-justice-warriors-and-… Islam, Social Justice Warriors and the Cry-Bully I don't know if Cry-Bullies is the perfect word, but it captures the dynamic perfectly. November 7, 2015 Daniel Greenfield This phenomenon of the abuser-victim is ridiculously widespread these days. Every Social Justice Warrior that organizes a hate campaign quickly rushes to friendly media outlets to whine about harassment and their heroic stand against people doing to them what they do to others. I'm not sure if Cry-Bully is the best name for it, but I haven't come up with anything better for it. That's Julie Burchill's label at the Spectator. I've stripped out most of the UK pop culture references to focus on the point. This is the age of the Cry-Bully, a hideous hybrid of victim and victor, weeper and walloper. They are everywhere, these duplicit Pushmi-Pullyus of the personal and the political... In the 1970s, there was a big difference between bullies and cry-babies. Islamism is the ultimate Cry-Bully cause; on one hand stamping around murdering anyone who doesn’ t agree with you, on the other hand yelling ‘ISLAMOPHOBIA’ in lieu of having a real adult debate about the merits of your case. Their ‘helpline’ is even called Tell Mama – bless. The British-born Islamist recently sentenced to twelve years had no problem posing with severed heads (‘Heads, kaffirs, disgusting’) and asking friends back home to send him condoms which he planned to use raping women captured as ‘war booty’ but then claimed to be having nightmares and suffering from depression in order to escape jail. I would argue that the same brand of selfishness and dehumanization that leads to abusive behavior also leads to victimhood. We've known this about criminals for some time now. They're all victims. No matter what horrible things they did, someone else always drove them to it. They're self-centered enough not to care about anyone else while being exquisitely attuned to their own feelings. As I wrote a few weeks ago... The one thing that Muslim murderers excel at is playing the victim. Someone always “made” Mohammed do it. Someone got him so frustrated and upset that he had no choice but to rape and kill. There’s a term for the kind of people who think like this; criminals. There’s a term for the kind of people who defend them; leftists. The Muslim case for justice can be found in the books of a million police departments where all the stories begin with the criminal feeling sorry for himself and end in hospitals and morgues. The story always begins with, “I wanted what was coming to me” or “She shouldn’t have made me angry.” But this isn't limited to Muslims. You can see it in the Black Lives Matter tantrums. Or the anti-Gamergate crowd. They're the victims and it's always someone else's fault. The entire passive aggressive narrative of safe spaces (if you don't censor people who disagree with us, we're the victims) turns abusers into victims, censors into heroes defending their mental health from dissenting views and the victim-victor paradigm is constantly flipping from one to the other. One moment the SJW hero is doing an end zone dance over having defeated the latest cultural enemy. The next moment they're crying over mean stuff said to them on Twitter. They're narcissistic and insecure. They want to be treated as helpless heroes, victims of some terrible social disease (not that kind) that leaves them always out of power and yet always winning. Their sensitivities have to be accommodated and censorship is their trophy. They're all about inclusiveness for special people like them, while driving out and shutting up anyone who disagrees with them. I don't know if Cry-Bullies is the perfect word, but it captures the dynamic perfectly.

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Re: [guardian-dev] Freenet and PLUTO
by grarpamp 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:42 PM, <salutarydiacritical23(a)ruggedinbox.com> wrote: > Hello. May I suggest a collaborative effort with a project you might know? > Freenet is a p2p storage network that's been around forever. One interesting > feature that's currently on hold is support for Tor's pluggable transports. > I directed them to your PLUTO framework because it seems like a good drop-in > choice. When all is said and done, users will be able to run Freenet over > Tor for more protection. > > Freenet Mail list: > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > Freenet bugtracker: > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2124 > > List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/guardian-dev Note that freenet seems to have been successfully invaded by sybils... http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/news/north-dakota/3885239-predators-police… Court records reveal the North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigation has been running an undercover operation on the peer-to-peer network Freenet since 2011... Essentially, the BCI planted its own computers within the Freenet network...Their computers kept logs of certain Freenet users' IP addresses and the codes for what they were downloading, according to the affidavit. Agents then compared the codes with a database they built of codes known to be child porn. But BCI investigators were able to devise a way to tell which IP address--and consequently, which Freenet user--ultimately was downloading the offending files.

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How does one remove the NSA Virus off the BIOS Chip
by Александр 21 Nov '15

21 Nov '15

** was originally by William H. Depperman whd2(a)columbia.edu <whd2(a)columbia.edu> to the tor list.* Hi Mailing List People, I am apparently the number one person in the United States on the _*NSA-CIA-FBI Watch List*_. For multiple reasons! I am the Coordinator of the United Front Against Racism and Capitalism-Imperialism who was arrested by the so-called "Major Case Squad" in August 1986 because our group exposed the scientific documentation on a big series of _/*huge*/_ wall posters that AIDS is Biological Warfare by the US Government Against Blacks, Gays and those with certain blood dyscrasias. The arrest was on the front pages of all NYC newspapers and on Channel 4 in Europe. I tried to send this email to Anonymous and TOR does not permit attachments so just disregard that when you see an attachment mentioned. Recently I was _*Extraordinarily Renditioned*_ (KIDNAPPED AND HELD AGAINST MY WILL FOR 18 HOURS AND TORTURED after simply walking along a road in New Jersey!) See the third attachment. The NSA has TOTAL control of my computer and has real time keystroke by keystroke monitoring and harassment while I am on the computer. My anti-virus and anti-Malware are totally useless as explained by Snowden because the computer is controlled through the _*BIOS Chip*_ as explained in the attachment on Snowden revelations. Scroll down the document until you get to _*ANT*_ (Access Network Technology). I would like for _*Anonymous*_ to publish on its website for EVERYONE, not just me, how to remove and neutralize NSA viruses placed on the BIOS CHIP! Also please send the information in an email to me. I am sure you could manage this. If THEY can do it and YOU are the world's greatest hackers just like they are, then YOU can neutralize any garbage they place on the BIOS Chip. Kaspersky by refusing to help me in this also SUPPORTS NSA placement of virus software on the BIOS Chip because that confirms that I am one of the capitalists' most important enemies and therefore I am an are automatic enemy of Kaspersky. So I can go screw! Will I receive the same response from Anonymous? It is a rule of capitalist statecraft that a government control and operate its own opposition by one means or another any and ALL means. Anonymous is a supposed opposition group. So who is _/*really*/_ running anonymous and please do not say "everyone" or "no one" because that is the same BS answer given by the anti-Communist Anarchist group, so-called "Occupy Wall Street." _*I need immediate help*_. And so undoubtedly do others! I am partially computer savvy. But I am not yet a programmer. William H. Depperman whd2(a)columbia.edu

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