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[OT] Would someone please check if links2 and elinks verify certificates on clean install of Debian 8?
by Georgi Guninski 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

Apologies for offtopic (this might be mildly ontopic about the current state of crypto in open source). Would someone please check if links2 and elinks verify certificates on fresh install of Debian 8? To verify, try to open site which doesn't properly chain to trusted root, say https://cacert.org (unless you trust their root ) and check if it opens or there is error/warning. For me, on updated system, both don't verify certificates. Looks like at least ubuntu and fedora killed the elinks bug long ago. Searching the web for "$browser self signed certificate" shows some relevant results.

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Re: participation in sensor networks
by Georgi Guninski 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 05:13:28PM -0500, dan(a)geer.org wrote: > Georgi Guninski writes: > | On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 08:34:14AM -0500, dan(a)geer.org wrote: > | > The question here is perhaps obvious: Will you opt out and suffer > | > the consequences thereof? > | > > | > --dan > | > | Let me counter-ask only `dan': > | > | Will you exchange a walk on part in a war for > | a lead role in a cage? > | > | This is not exactly quote from Floyd's song. > > > After looking up the lyrics and reading a few pages about them, > I confess to still being confused as to what they mean and, hence, > what their question is. That is an honest answer -- I am not good > (at all) with anything that is "high art" or whatever the right > terminology here would be. > > Now, as a guess, I'll counter by asking if the lyric is simply a > light modernization of: > > I must study politics and war, that my sons may have the liberty > to study mathematics and philosophy, natural history and naval > architecture, in order to give their children a right to study > painting, poetry, music, architecture, tapestry, and porcelain. > -- John Adams, 2nd US President > > If the "Floyd" lyric asks whether yours is a purpose-driven life, > then my answer to "freedom, security, comfort, choose two" is freedom > and security, abjuring comfort, per se. > > Never mind the lyrics, assume it doesn't exist. Assuming you are the same dan geer who is some boss at in-q-tel, which appears closely related to the cia, what is your definition of "freedom" -- what the usgov decides to give to the enslaved peasants?

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Foreign Intelligence Relations Management System (FIRMS)
by Michael Best 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

Anyone heard of Foreign Intelligence Relations Management System (FIRMS)? All I can dig up ATM is the abbreviation itself. Not sure if it's State, CIA, or etc. jurisdiction -- Veritas aequitas liberabit vos Veri universum vici That 1 Archive <http://that1archive.neocities.org/> @NatSecGeek <https://twitter.com/NatSecGeek> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: pgp.mit.edu mQINBChG9zoBEADKzALG4UHCjY6L9OFUxWRVGGCW7LY71K2EAK/0jkRh1wPkJ4chPaVJ3vVD nJ0d8HxsyR5R3+y7GH6GCc/tK0IDPJah+xpQnraS1nWUvAlSaaxsBK4hJfuVGyfBg/joQVKU OhpqJLQhRIkUWk30QC94IbOKiCTb6V4pStLYyrLieewjT481vvRIYp/48IS5eiveZW0/IpcA HBON7xJw6P1murC8PNOJSWRCp9FJhcs3wIPG3cFTfsxSZnGcoivMgFLtGAfLbztpZkcHEMOR 4qamVvirzYGHma0UlOzyNr7xpxyLXFsU5kKzQ8Az2nP1GG7vuqXSjPNLIvvHFL+g+gKuCe9W xTa9Ac038RRSiBGdDrvTFpQ/h9h5GWIHP7nsA4TCeZSpL81aqp7Cb0MK3KPQmteTPIujVCnx jXXHrOe9Tj6iYUU8edApISyBEVFZMd+EtfDEDf/ZwDjzSGE85vv1dZ/ck7iJvS8FwM8hsRBG U9huCKiItGs26teUJ2Sum49YaEiDL4QLQhJ+FbsAusxJg+V3GE/4w75K/6/czT0p10Mf66Uo fRFTvYRE7S6CNDxzTI4q7+pnRlxMBduGC33KY4eq4Py/O3LWHBDxZ+LffIa/tWcB/7oZ6yDo bdWleNk5wnJdPGr6lUTHTM4tpDIEcXYpvjzyLcMtg4tFm/Dc0QARAQABtGVNaWNoYWVsIEJl c3QgKFByaXZhdGUsIG5vdCBzZWN1cmUuIEZvciBzZWN1cmUgZW1haWwsIHJlcXVlc3QgYSBv bmUtdGltZSBrZXkuKSA8dGhlbWlrZWJlc3RAZ21haWwuY29tPokCPQQTAQoAJwUCKEb3OgIb AwUJNXc1AAULCQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAgMBAAIeAQIXgAAKCRCiYH9hY4dAS3e+D/sFwyJER4/4 ZnHYC/1EzCpHeDikSmULEgsvNgzo73thOV9/Q2I8mCJTlQjsK4rZ2YiDzi4b0CN8kzjpxtVz BsBsxfyPLrdH4VoqeqeBVzbwHxSk7bYUI3vFt+e3gBgpAxbVfPXCnYUnWPRlr9dc/JZoPJH4 p8yRIqktehbAE3Fa3gkfrXJ5e6+/nKlQhikyvo9VuErrLpPMXBzOq4/2LVfurkcOzlp1RBjs hWr6B98EiOXs44ZGLEkINxJiW8koFhw/WDuON8LKi/DtLiqqtBVTjrkqKCuKzSAVncGGcEVO 3Om3aOIOvG0do/wQKYXnpbeGsHwx2PGrJ7H+lb2bIb5KhbZkbG4rMTjsVnuGN+IF4BxBhmGz MYoooWy4VCLL0o8keomU8JPXt+fZDqJ9sNjY/asTsjOa6aE3bIa6w3mWUeefGwA25oXur3Rr L3wmu1pPzCejumfA1X93dS9UZS3xni+7W34g6YbsREuaZ+YBxFLN227JXAx2pEdjLsuVOaqM 9CO7ARHsxDZoE9U7n0s3txnSw/2YYwjEK1wDhdLnHBL3ZzaAcaHnpzsTYQAVW7uXKKHhzeSK GP3O4ByCisM/7WLFvIIpaNNs85jI1PvKH0GutSTl9xXDfWuYMl9rwwbteBB/oGSxlIFe0pqq IDNfAJdR/HjTLqrTES2wdXJS1bkCDQQoRvc6ARAAmltXrhVfpePdIFrfEHCet4nkQvmRI+AX rUgiNlxQDW8M5FzlUfT2xpMXHMWuKehTYpFq7bNbFi+fwBhMajgvgDsTuLInftKSFp+sisbR n8psv7CpGB4jp0Xd4y1Wm/HejV/kga0kcUVVetaqyzgZedn1UnccQRzDBVWW2j2ed+hi/8g0 /d7mbVG81yzJo8tLidM90xFF7JGlijm0dBAqmhD4UgkxSnJQ3PK5onqdjdbx7HkP68RrkeTQ vhWK1978qzdSl9ljJ0jLnoAaDNPs5Dj/TyYCtqoKHUqMbTwU5nIQnJG7geMeSw/7OVnKlypF Rs/JesZzMBooZTRxZJuIB/q0wOfE/MYTwGSwLs2brUwJFJ6bSYmerZ+81S8W/Y4mehJ3o6Vl SabrrVN+LlBfUuRqd5U909WECzk6HVnwnRfL07zD+1y5cLU+e4MQs2227kLriTIxtDZ/umeG hKQgNgFGTAPHJxA96xGvQ8Ovv+XEivlO0jxBNMIiopNSlMDE+k3nigWHuavt9LUUCOd45aw7 0pgKstQQgpFfVAwV98LPpUKxa61q6wQiQHAcP7YxuQG0dsr4nUq2xids5l1IpOLzZJ3nRThM k7alkljBbqphbocV3FsSXOkpcSWns94k1QGmrPzEPLF0FHFBG6whWoaoEySMkdsN1zVu4GMU o2EAEQEAAYkCJQQYAQoADwUCKEb3OgIbDAUJNXc1AAAKCRCiYH9hY4dASzTaEACKXVgc8KmZ xWyYTUQgIwrj3J/re68uIilq0iBBDocgEZZpxyf6lD1V3IKBjAPpWyYHMrrrLY64rFDR+8DE Xyhm1Wv2S6YJuWJtyAlS4bciXjJE6evirIH5GoFq++vzsufRaudAoQ56hJ0+Z3dNMMWZ6YuP zWNNL2tvpdo3Nvd8bqiADWSffFdIPv5Yj/mZsXmaDN+7iWYlAdCrubGyGzFHlCh26Ghu6SS0 /u8x1/Oi7ma7fUMFnEsFiYjwBkD3pQKK1dm7j2f1OMxi8uky8vgBgx40aeJkoUgEvIHWsCIi CWVTyfiGeWIcKbK7tYP5jsjV5fUv+TaQ1pApt++Pyop1aogfQ8icNBQQkdX6E4gNhnPOPTM8 FTl69Tq5Ori5+TM8VM0iPGiydlcAXIAD3OyR4tZM12Ga1AtppKjx31EyDB4SPzUmDWRy5WgG NRH3+RgiK/iXVcvLdFIKj3/AvctSLdbayyaFD8zrE/wcMzLfie+iE231+rG/7gmcR3H1rcYE vxvmWAPikLQKiMUpPBNSvfLPUTrwNSGiZ5ieAAPgOooc3u5nohwZmEW1pg6HirZgIAgAYuyL aLgnikwH70guiQ4Ufsih3gy0ddsUwliUTtbYQyX0OBQoTUyaiXPy0Wu2FJfsxiW8X9Lu9pIH KOwU9K76VKot+UikGqeFQsS/Ig== =M+du -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Obama At SXSW: No On Personal Secure Crypto And Decentral Cryptocurrencies
by grarpamp 12 Mar '16

12 Mar '16

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11270529 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/03/11/2336205/obama-government-cant-let-sm… https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4a1hcp/obama_indirectly_attacks_b… Because terrists and children of course. Typical govt drivel, strategy, and game playing position rollout timeline. Attn Peeps... ur bein 0wn3d.

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Fwd: On XML - was Fwd: [Yaml-core] Next YAML: drop equality definition
by Zenaan Harkness 12 Mar '16

12 Mar '16

I only forward the last part of this email, since the rest is domain specific (YAML de/serialization minutiae). Z ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> Subject: Re: [Yaml-core] Next YAML: drop equality definition On 3/10/16, Osamu TAKEUCHI <osamu(a)big.jp> wrote: ... >> One of the reason we explicitly listed the goals, >>_in order_,was to break ties when different goals >>pushed us in different directions. Order the goals >>differently, and you'll get a different spec. I think >>you would end up with JSON if you ordered them in a >>different way. Or even, god help us, XML ;-) ... > If we give up YAML, the next choice will indeed be XML. Nope. The next choice will be YAML 2. Then the next choice will be JSON 1. Then the next choice will be JSON 2. Then the next choice will be native serialization in your language of choice. Then custom binary serialization. Then a continually permutating algorithmic mixing stream, just for laughs. There are infinite alternatives to XML and if worse comes to worst, I suggest hard transcoding your data into COBOL statements and serializing those in Base63. Nowhere would one willingly choose XML. Hell, I'd choose HTML if I was ordered to use XML on a project, just to make sure the next guy who touches that code knows that the serialization format has to be changed. Manager: "Z, did you finish that, what's it called again? Yeah, the XML serialization?" Me: "Sure did! And it's Netscape 3.1 compatible too." <snigger>HTML<snigger> Manager: <used to work at Best Buy, does not understand>"Oh, cool! That's just great! I knew I'd finish on time, and I'll tell marketing our new name too, 'NewScope compatible' - has a great ring to it. Great ring! Good job Z, you'll go places you know. Go places in this world!" > Actually, my library is build to replace XML serializer > that is provided by C#. Since we want YAML to be able > to serialize both kinds of documents, we have to think > the best balance. Should be easy. Anything's more enjoyable than XML... whoops, there I go again... :)

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Apple Attorneys Move to Join CA and NY Cases
by John Young 11 Mar '16

11 Mar '16

USG-Apple EDNY - Apple Attorneys Move to Join CA and NY Cases <https://t.co/dxmWKmVGBW>https://cryptome.org/2016/03/usg-apple-edny-0 31-034.pdf

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Searching Places Unknown: Law Enforcement Jurisdiction on the Dark Web
by Cari Machet 11 Mar '16

11 Mar '16

Searching Places Unknown: Law Enforcement Jurisdiction on the Dark Web Ahmed Ghappour <http://t.sidekickopen45.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs1…> UC Hastings College of the Law March 5, 2016 http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2742706 -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimachet(a)gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Reykjavik +354 894 8650 Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited.

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Snowden sasys FBI can unlock iPhone
by Chris Magistrado 11 Mar '16

11 Mar '16

https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-future/one-fbis-major-claims-iphone-case-fra… Is the technical part true? I don't feel like it is... Can anyone confirm this?

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Distributed protocols that combat economy of scale
by rysiek 10 Mar '16

10 Mar '16

Hi, as "A Miner Problem" shows, even a distributed, p2p solution like BitCoin suffers from a secondary centralisation flaw. Simply put, economy of scale lets the biggest player or a cartel of thoise basically undermine the "decentralized" part and take control over the network. A similar thing has happened with e-mail and GMail. GMail basically dictates the rules in the e-mail world, simply because they're the largest and have the most users. Again, economy of scale is to blame. So let me pose a question here: is it possible to design a protocol that does not succumb to economy of scale-based secondary centralisation? Is it possible to design a protocol that does not lend itself to economy of scale? -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147

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USG Support of Motion to Compel Apple Decrypt, iPhone Forensics
by John Young 10 Mar '16

10 Mar '16

USG v. Apple - USG Support of Motion to Compel Apple Decrypt <https://t.co/Ffe1t74552>https://cryptome.org/2016/03/usg-apple-149.pdf (484 pp, 11MB) FBI agent details Farook's iPhone forensics, Apple discussions <https://t.co/JkcuCEY1JX>https://cryptome.org/2016/03/usg-apple-149-02.pdf

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