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Re: [tor-talk] Iovation insinuates Tor Users are bad
by grarpamp 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Down <geoffdown(a)fastmail.net> wrote: > What Iovation actually *says* is that fraudsters like to conceal their > whereabouts with a variety of technologies. Nothing controversial there. But a wager they aren't also saying to their customers s/fraudsters/perfectly legit everyday privacy minded Tor users among the general public/ therefore they're insinuating Tor bad, they're biased, and they can just piss off. Further proof that companies like these could really give a shit about legit Tor using end users...every single one of them a profiteering data miner... against you and your privacy, and for them. https://www.iovation.com/about/partners

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Nominee officers and directors (was: Why cryptome sold web logs...)
by wirelesswarrior＠Safe-mail.net 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Despite almost two decades of cypherpunk activity I cannot fathom why U.S. residents operate sites clearly in the cross-hairs of intel agencies. Have they never heard of non-resident nominee officers and directors? All U.S. resident people dealing with the site should be bona fide contractors so they aren't subject to either receiving or implementing court orders or NSLs. -------- Original Message -------- From: bbrewer <bbrewer(a)littledystopia.net> Apparently from: cypherpunks-bounces(a)cpunks.org To: Michael Best <themikebest(a)gmail.com> Cc: cpunks <cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org>, cryptome <cryptome(a)freelists.org> Subject: Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their payingcustomers? Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 16:30:00 -0400 > > > On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Michael Best <themikebest(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Anyway to rule this out other than hearing it from John? How long before we begin to seriously consider it or assume it? > > > > And if there was a NSL, why not shut down? Why put users at ongoing risk?? > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit > > "Levison said that he could be arrested for closing the site instead of releasing the information, and it was reported that the federal prosecutor's office had sent Levison's lawyer an e-mail to that effect.” > > I’m just blabbering on suppositions here, but I wouldn’t be surprised by… anything. > > -benjamin

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Re: [cryptome] Re: Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000
by Michael Best 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/654722680856293377 > wikileaks is a $5B-50B entity not for free lurid content but for its user > data and metadata. Assange's brilliant wikiplan. Ed and Glenn's? Now *that* sounds like John! =) On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Shelley <shelley(a)misanthropia.org> wrote: > On October 15, 2015 5:57:09 AM Andrew Hornback <achornback(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Okay, I'll take the troll bait here... >> >> How would you go about verifying that his account has NOT been hacked? >> >> --- A >> > > How is it troll bait to ask that question, Andrew? > > You think this is normal behavior for JY? It used to be posted right on > Cryptome that access logs were deleted daily or better, and it appears that > he may have lied to a grand jury about not having them. > > This isn't funny. At all. > > -S > > > > On Oct 15, 2015 8:18 AM, "Michael Best" <themikebest(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Is there anyone who can verify JYA's accounts haven't been hacked? I was >> > assuming this was a joke until the tweet with the picture of 1997 logs. >> > https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/654626113742893056 >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Shelley <shelley(a)misanthropia.org> >> wrote: >> > >> >> On October 14, 2015 9:32:30 PM John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000. >> >>> >> >>> Authentic Cryptome Archive for $10,000. >> >>> <https://t.co/38zMD3KlpS>https://cryptome.org/donations.htm >> >>> >> >> >> >> More evidence that the site has probably been compromised, yet again: >> >> >> >> Excerpt from 2003 subpoena, via http://cryptome.org/cryptome-log.htm: >> >> >> >> ----- BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE ----- >> >> Hash SHA1 >> >> >> >> CRYPTOME >> >> >> >> COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS >> >> >> >> AFFIDAVIT >> >> >> >> I, John Young, administrator of Cryptome, hereby declare that logs of >> >> Cryptome are deleted daily, or more often during heavy traffic, to >> protect >> >> the privacy of visitors to the site. Cryptome does not own or know the >> >> location of the machine which hosts its virtual private server under a >> >> service agreement with NTT Verio. There are several international >> mirrors >> >> of the files on Cryptome, all of which, to the best of my knowledge, >> delete >> >> logs to protect privacy of visitors. >> >> >> >> Attested and communicated to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts by this >> >> PGP-signed statement published on Cryptome, 6 January 2003: >> >> >> >> http://cryptome.org/cryptome-log.htm --- >> >> >> >> ————— >> >> >> >> Logs going back to 1996? That'd be perjury. I don't buy it. >> >> >> >> Domain is not for sale at the registrar and transfer is still >> >> prohibited. Fyi. >> >> >> >> -Shelley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > >

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Re: [cryptome] Re: Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000
by Michael Best 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

I just assumed someone on one of the lists would have been in phone contact with JYA at some point or would have enough shared experience with him that they could recognize him/the way he writes in an email. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Andrew Hornback <achornback(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, I'll take the troll bait here... > > How would you go about verifying that his account has NOT been hacked? > > --- A > On Oct 15, 2015 8:18 AM, "Michael Best" <themikebest(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Is there anyone who can verify JYA's accounts haven't been hacked? I was >> assuming this was a joke until the tweet with the picture of 1997 logs. >> https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/654626113742893056 >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Shelley <shelley(a)misanthropia.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On October 14, 2015 9:32:30 PM John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: >>> >>> Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000. >>>> >>>> Authentic Cryptome Archive for $10,000. >>>> <https://t.co/38zMD3KlpS>https://cryptome.org/donations.htm >>>> >>> >>> More evidence that the site has probably been compromised, yet again: >>> >>> Excerpt from 2003 subpoena, via http://cryptome.org/cryptome-log.htm: >>> >>> ----- BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE ----- >>> Hash SHA1 >>> >>> CRYPTOME >>> >>> COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS >>> >>> AFFIDAVIT >>> >>> I, John Young, administrator of Cryptome, hereby declare that logs of >>> Cryptome are deleted daily, or more often during heavy traffic, to protect >>> the privacy of visitors to the site. Cryptome does not own or know the >>> location of the machine which hosts its virtual private server under a >>> service agreement with NTT Verio. There are several international mirrors >>> of the files on Cryptome, all of which, to the best of my knowledge, delete >>> logs to protect privacy of visitors. >>> >>> Attested and communicated to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts by this >>> PGP-signed statement published on Cryptome, 6 January 2003: >>> >>> http://cryptome.org/cryptome-log.htm --- >>> >>> ————— >>> >>> Logs going back to 1996? That'd be perjury. I don't buy it. >>> >>> Domain is not for sale at the registrar and transfer is still >>> prohibited. Fyi. >>> >>> -Shelley >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

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Re: [cryptome] Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50, 000, 000
by Shelley 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

On October 14, 2015 9:32:30 PM John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: > Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000. > > Authentic Cryptome Archive for $10,000. > <https://t.co/38zMD3KlpS>https://cryptome.org/donations.htm 1) John, if this is indeed JY, is awake long past his bedtime. 2) If Cryptome has access logs going back to 1996 then John has completely contradicted himself about deleting old logs with the previous provider, before Network Solutions. I don't know what's been going on for the past week with JY and some of the cpunks list, but I'd sure like to find out. -Shelley

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[cryptome] Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50, 000, 000
by Michael Best 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Self-deprecating humor aside, what're the new 1,100 supplemental files? On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: > Cryptome for sale with access log files from 1996 for $50,000,000. > > Authentic Cryptome Archive for $10,000. https://cryptome.org/donations.htm > <https://t.co/38zMD3KlpS> >

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How to minimize one's damage in case the usa kicks the bucket?
by Georgi Guninski 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

The financial situation in the usa is quite grave. Assume very severe financial crisis hits the usa relatively soon causing hyperinflation there and possibly in other countries. I am interested: How to minimize one's damage in this situation? Some suspicions: Banks/exchanges are known Ponzi schemes, so how much the banking system will remain intact is unclear to me. Some possibilities real estate outside usa gold (is gold certificate secure enough?) bitcoins (some people got burnt, security of bitcoins not clear to me) ??? Please post political rants in other thread.

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Wikileaks releases TPP Intellectual Property chapter in full
by Shelley 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

A few days old, but I didn't see it up on Cryptome. I'm getting intermittent 403s when trying to access the main page at https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/. If so, try going to the first page of the document which gives you the option to download the entire pdf: https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/WikiLeaks-TPP-IP-Chapter/page-1.html Direct link to pdf: https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/WikiLeaks-TPP-IP-Chapter/WikiLeaks-TPP-IP-Cha… -Shelley

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Trying to invoke Godwin's law for some threads on this so called list
by Michael Best 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

I assume you mean because of all the anti-semitic remarks, shoah denying, racist remarks and talk of racial cleansing that hasn't been going on? Different opinion=wrong-bad-evil-hate-suspect-accuse I guess there has been *some* intolerance and personal attacks, though....

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Edward Snowden BBC interview
by Zenaan Harkness 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

Edward Snowden: 'They've Said They Wouldn't Torture Me...' : http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/edward-snowden-theyve-said-they-would… Also: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34444233

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