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Re: [resend] France - sadly not a friend of principle or truth
by Michael Best 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

> > making table conversation out of one's sexual preferences is a uniquely > 'Merican phenome. And Ray knows, because he's surveyed ALL THE COUNTRIES. No, not just all the countries ALL THE CULTURES. No, not just all the cultures. ALL THE TRIBES. No, no... silly me. ALL THE PEOPLE. That's it. Ray has spoken to and speaks for all the people. That's why he can so safely make categorical statements about human society on a global level. Oh, wait. None of that's true. And the rest of Ray's email makes twice as many good points as he did in that statement! ;-) LOLing @ the ignorance and hate, and @ Ray's complaining of people only talking about LGBT affairs when they have "AGENDAS", and "AGENDAS" are apparently bad, but Ray doesn't have any "AGENDAS". Good job blowing the cover on that CIA op, Ray. We spent a lot of time and money on that, backstopping their IDs and producing plenty of pocket litter. We should've known you'd use a translated statement of "they weren't regulars" to prove it was a black ops CIA team. We thought we were so clever being revolutionaries in Russia and using hammers to demolish stuff as part of PROJECT SICKLE. Damn and double damn, and also other Shatnerian rants <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcC1f1jqCPI>. Don't worry though, Ray - I'll put in a good word for you at the GCI (Gay Central Intelligence) and the BSA (Bisexual Security Agency). I don't have any real contacts at NALO (North Atlantic Lesbian Organization) intelligence though, so you're SOL (Sodomized Out of Luck) there. But remember, when in doubt, turn to Kevin Smith and Malcolm's immortal words on the sins of homosexuality and the pure love that is the Westboro Baptist Church of Hateology <https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/u2l31/how_kevin_smith_protests_the_…> . --Mike Best, Pervert Extraordinary <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMCQvLMfLHQ> and Plenipotentiary On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:11 PM, <cypherpunks-request(a)cpunks.org> wrote: > Send cypherpunks mailing list submissions to > cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cypherpunks-request(a)cpunks.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cypherpunks-owner(a)cpunks.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cypherpunks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: France - sadly not a friend of principle or truth (Rayzer) > 2. Re: [resend] France - sadly not a friend of principle or > truth (Rayzer) > 3. Re: [resend] France - sadly not a friend of principle or > truth (juan) > 4. cryptome-nov2015 (coderman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 10:22:10 -0800 > From: Rayzer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net> > To: cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org > Subject: Re: France - sadly not a friend of principle or truth > Message-ID: <5659F0D2.8080508(a)riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-encrypted > Size: 11 bytes > Desc: PGP/MIME version identification > URL: < > http://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20151128/dbbbfc7c/attac… > > >

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Fwd: Re: France - sadly not a friend of principle or truth
by Endless 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

>> >> Again I say, Russian president Putin is close to the only true >> statesmen on the world stage today. >> >> > Zenaan, *there is no country except Russia that is a friend to the Truth*. > Not only France. And i say so not because i am russian at all, believe me. > Even the Chinese/Indian/Belorussian/Argentinian... who declare (sometimes) > some speeches that are friendly to Russia/to the Truth - are no more than > hypocritical dogs. Because when there is some kind of pressure/exam... you > NEVER see them. > > For example, look now with the destroyed jet/look with the "Ukraine case" - > was there any truly *unambiguous* and *consistent* country FOR the Truth?! > > Money/other benefits is everybody's only interest. No moral values. No > standing for the Truth. > Except Putin > Confusing the absolute "truth" with "moral values" would indeed pose a tricky dilemma in the situation of Vladimir Putin. If you consider Putin to be unilaterally upholding the truth whilst at the same time upholding moral values, such a position would be rapidly contradicted when comparing Putin's attitude towards the right of LGBT people to exist to that of the West, considering of course that by "moral values", Putin indeed upholds basic human rights. Indeed, the torture and killings perpetrated by Putin's lower levels of government and covered from up high, a fact of life that comes with having been a member of the soviet union, must definitely reflect upon Putin's willingness to publicize the truth, whether it would be in his country's (capitalist) interest. Furthermore, Putin's involvement against ISIS (or Daesh, for those who prefer it) is but another part of Putin's manipulation for influence in the middle east, tying in with involvement in Ukraine, games with NATO and economic sanctions placed against Russia by the western world. I strongly doubt that Putin's actions are not motivated by money and the so-called "benefits" that come with setting up a slew of back room agreements between countries. Instead, agreements promoting corruption and the oppression of free speech are mainly set up with non-western countries, reducing the ability for western media to catch a hold of them and call Putin out, a result of the more secretive systems of government that tend to exist in the East. >> >> It is so sad to me that most of the Western world today is, evidently, so >> utterly compromised >> Although the problem of political corruption and the utter inability of any political party to avoid completely sacrificing any hope of measly integrity is primarily associated with the West, Eastern governments are not exempt. It is not that such problems are isolated to a particular section of the world, but instead cover the globe itself. >> >> I can only hope that future Russian presidents sustain such a level of >> integrity and >> commitment to national interests and his/her own people, as he does. >> > Me too, my friend. And it is very important to understand, that Putin is > not committed ONLY to the Russian's national interests, *but to the > interests of all the **(sane) people of the whole world.* Oh yes, considering that the citizens of South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea are not Putin's own people. Given Putin's partial invasion of Georgia and the Ukraine, it would be ludicrous to believe that he is acting in the interests of the Georgian and Ukrainian people. Russia's actions, although in his eyes quite likely reflect an act of protection by Russia, are solely motivated by economic or military reasoning, furthering Russia's troublesome influence in an already unstable region. It must be kept in mind that although Russia may have a tendency to cut through the grime that obscures Western policy making, Russia (and thereby Vladimir Putin) is not exempt from the corruption evident in today's world by cause of modern capitalist and nationalistic sentiment. I truly hope that the belief that Putin is an "unambiguous and consistent friend to the truth" is but pure satire, intended to spark a lively debate. All the best, Endless

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cryptome-nov2015
by coderman 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

cryptome-nov2015.tar.bz 76GByte Nov 28 05:58 sha256 22572573c0538e09bf554f475f3113fbbd33920e2bf6691f65450ea8e2333edb [ seeding... plz wait... ]

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Re: The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
by Ryan Carboni 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

Yeah, I saw someone like that on television once. He gave an interview about how he ordered someone's murder, can you believe that? He got to his position by promising a bunch of lies. He exclaimed, "We got him," when he first heard that the guy was executed by his henchmen. After he saw the photo of the dead man, his only thoughts were, "He's dead." ... ... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-on-news-of-bin-laden-death-we-got-him/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-on-decision-to-bury-osama-bin-laden-at-se…

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Re: France - sadly not a friend of principle or truth
by Endless 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

>> >> Again I say, Russian president Putin is close to the only true >> statesmen on the world stage today. >> >> > Zenaan, *there is no country except Russia that is a friend to the Truth*. > Not only France. And i say so not because i am russian at all, believe me. > Even the Chinese/Indian/Belorussian/Argentinian... who declare (sometimes) > some speeches that are friendly to Russia/to the Truth - are no more than > hypocritical dogs. Because when there is some kind of pressure/exam... you > NEVER see them. > > For example, look now with the destroyed jet/look with the "Ukraine case" - > was there any truly *unambiguous* and *consistent* country FOR the Truth?! > > Money/other benefits is everybody's only interest. No moral values. No > standing for the Truth. > Except Putin > Confusing the absolute "truth" with "moral values" would indeed pose a tricky dilemma in the situation of Vladimir Putin. If you consider Putin to be unilaterally upholding the truth whilst at the same time upholding moral values, such a position would be rapidly contradicted when comparing Putin's attitude towards the right of LGBT people to exist to that of the West, considering of course that by "moral values", Putin indeed upholds basic human rights. Indeed, the torture and killings perpetrated by Putin's lower levels of government and covered from up high, a fact of life that comes with having been a member of the soviet union, must definitely reflect upon Putin's willingness to publicize the truth, whether it would be in his country's (capitalist) interest. Furthermore, Putin's involvement against ISIS (or Daesh, for those who prefer it) is but another part of Putin's manipulation for influence in the middle east, tying in with involvement in Ukraine, games with NATO and economic sanctions placed against Russia by the western world. I strongly doubt that Putin's actions are not motivated by money and the so-called "benefits" that come with setting up a slew of back room agreements between countries. Instead, agreements promoting corruption and the oppression of free speech are mainly set up with non-western countries, reducing the ability for western media to catch a hold of them and call Putin out, a result of the more secretive systems of government that tend to exist in the East. >> >> It is so sad to me that most of the Western world today is, evidently, so >> utterly compromised >> Although the problem of political corruption and the utter inability of any political party to avoid completely sacrificing any hope of measly integrity is primarily associated with the West, Eastern governments are not exempt. It is not that such problems are isolated to a particular section of the world, but instead cover the globe itself. >> >> I can only hope that future Russian presidents sustain such a level of >> integrity and >> commitment to national interests and his/her own people, as he does. >> > Me too, my friend. And it is very important to understand, that Putin is > not committed ONLY to the Russian's national interests, *but to the > interests of all the **(sane) people of the whole world.* Oh yes, considering that the citizens of South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea are not Putin's own people. Given Putin's partial invasion of Georgia and the Ukraine, it would be ludicrous to believe that he is acting in the interests of the Georgian and Ukrainian people. Russia's actions, although in his eyes quite likely reflect an act of protection by Russia, are solely motivated by economic or military reasoning, furthering Russia's troublesome influence in an already unstable region. It must be kept in mind that although Russia may have a tendency to cut through the grime that obscures Western policy making, Russia (and thereby Vladimir Putin) is not exempt from the corruption evident in today's world by cause of modern capitalist and nationalistic sentiment. I truly hope that the belief that Putin is an "unambiguous and consistent friend to the truth" is but pure satire, intended to spark a lively debate. All the best, Endless

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The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
by stef 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

for those who have not seen this and those who are unaware of the things going on here: http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5 -- otr fp: https://www.ctrlc.hu/~stef/otr.txt

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Fwd: General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years
by Zenaan Harkness 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

I recommend General Wesley Clark for those who have not seen it (was new to me). Lays out American government's plans shortly after 9/11, to take down seven countries' governments; similar to Brzezinski's book of predictions similarly a year or so prior (see below). General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years (Although I paste the transcript here, I find this interview quite enjoyable to watch, and it's only 8MB, although the video does not include the last couple sentences from the transcript, and the video does add separate little section of its own, again General Wesley; enjoy.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw "General Wesley Clark: Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail." So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!" " (Looking at youtube, there appears quite a few talks by General Wesley Clark.) New Edition of Brzezinski's Book Spotlights US Strategy in Eurasia http://russia-insider.com/en/americas-hegemony-and-europes-place-chessboard… Also breaking news: Turkey Intel Chief: Putin's Intervention in Syria Is Against Islam, ISIS Is a Reality That We Accept http://russia-insider.com/en/turkish-intelligence-chief-putins-intervention… (This from October - last month.) “ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” - Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

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Americans! An American to support:- Ron Paul: 'The Neocon Wolf is At the Door'
by Zenaan Harkness 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Ron Paul is starting to be heard. It's a good sign. http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/ron-paul-neocon-wolf-door/ri11437 Especially when this is what the neocons currently controlling America do to the voices of reason: Former US Defense Chief Backs International Coalition Against ISIS (Chuck Hagel) http://russia-insider.com/en/chuck-hagel-backs-international-coalition-agai… (Sacked by Obama late last year.) In other news: Turkish Prime Minister declares he personally gave the order to shoot down Russian jet the other day: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/i-gave-order-myself-turkish-pm-downin… (I was initially surprised and suspect Erdogan required Davutoglu put his head on the public chopping block, but who knows ...) The German media seem to be steadily getting it: Evidence Is Mounting That Islamic State Is Offspring of the US http://russia-insider.com/en/afraid-truth-islamic-state-offspring-us/ri11408 Depending on your mindset, may bring a smile to a weary face: The Classic Rules For Combating Turkish Aggression http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/classic-rules-combatting-turkish-aggr… And a reminder once again, political discourse within Russian population is -way- ahead of Australia, USA, etc (thank God there is some discourse somewhere on a broader scale than a niche mailing list): How Ordinary Russians See the Western-Russian Stand Off http://russia-insider.com/en/ordinary-russians-ordinary-americans-were-same… Regards, Zenaan PS Not sure anyone noticed, but I am finding russia-insider.com to be quite a good aggregation site, as well putting out their own articles and opinion pieces here and there.

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NATO member Turkey just shot down Russian military jet
by Zenaan Harkness 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

"According to Putin, Russia has always treated Turkey not simply as a close neighbour, but as a friendly state." I guess that position is now officially off the table. May be not the smartest move by Turkey? I'm not getting the feeling that shooting down a Russian jet in Syria was a good idea (even if it had been in Turkish airspace minutes prior). I hope this does not escalate. --- http://tass.ru/en/politics/838825 " Putin: Russia will not tolerate such crimes as attack against its Sukhoi-24 plane November 24, 15:53 UTC+3 According to the president, the attack against Su-24 plane in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back" delivered by "terrorism accomplices" SOCHI, November 24. /TASS/. Russia will not tolerate crimes like the attack on the Russian Su-24 fighter jet shot down by the Turkish Air Force in Syrian skies, President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday at a meeting with King of Jordan Abdullah II. "I understand each country has its own regional interests, and we have always respected that. But we shall never tolerate crimes like today's one," the president said. The Russian leader stressed that the downed fighter-bomber was posing no threat to Turkey. "Our pilots and jet posed no threat to the Turkish Republic. This is obvious. They were conducting an operation against ISIL," Putin said. He stressed the plane was flying above northern Lattakia where militants coming from Russia are concentrated. "The Russian bomber was shot down over Syria by an air-to-air surface fired from a Turkish F-16 plane when the bomber was at an altitude of 6,000 meters at a distance of 1 km from the Turkish bomber." Putin said. "They [the pilots] were fulfilling their task," the president stressed adding that they were delivering preventive air strikes on terrorists who can come back to Russia at any moment. Putin called the attack a crime and stressed that Russia would not tolerate it. According to the president, the Su-24 plane crash in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back delivered by terrorist accomplices." "Today’s loss is linked with a stab in our back delivered by terrorism accomplices. I can’t characterize otherwise what has happened today," the Russian leader said. According to the president, Russia has long been aware of oil supplies to Turkey from Syria’s territories seized by terrorists, which provided tangible financial support for the extremists. "We’ve long exposed heavy trafficking of oil and petroleum products from Islamic State-seized territories," Putin said, adding that monetary support for the militant groups was large, indeed. Read also Czech Republic's President Milos Zeman Czech president denounces Turkey’s actions over Russian bomber crash "Now we’ve suffered stabs in the back: attacks against our planes that fight with terrorism," Putin said. He pointed out that Turkey attacked Russia’s Sukhoi-24 although "we have signed agreements with the American partners on the prevention of incidents in the air, and Turkey, as is known, is among the countries that have declared they are ostensibly fighting against terrorism within the US-led coalition.". Putin noted that Turkey’s contacts with NATO member states after the attack against the Russian aircraft look like an attempt to make the alliance serve terrorists. The Russian leader said that instead of immediately establishing contacts with Russia after the bomber incident, "the Turkish side applied to its NATO partners to discuss this issue, as far as we know." "It seems as if we have shot down a Turkish plane and not vice versa," the Russian president said. "So, does this mean that they want NATO to serve the Islamic State?" Putin noted. The president said the attack on the Russian jet will have tragic consequences to Russia-Turkey ties. "We will certainly carefully analyse what has happened and today’s tragic event will have serious consequences to Russian-Turkish relations," he said. According to Putin, Russia has always treated Turkey not simply as a close neighbour, but as a friendly state. "I have no idea who needed what has happened today, but in any case it’s not us," the Russian president said. He expressed hope "the international community will find the forces to unite in the face of this common evil (terrorism)." Turkey's military attache in Russia has been summoned to the Russian Defense Ministry. " --- http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/act-war-turkey-shoots-down-russian-mi… "ACT OF WAR: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Military Jet Turkey claims the Su-24 violated Turkish airspace, but the Russian government says it has proof that the plane was flying over Syria A NATO member just shot down a Russian military jet... Absolutely unreal news coming from Syria: Turkish F-16 fighters have shot down a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber. The details: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/turkey-shoots-down-russ… Turkey has shot down a Russian military jet which it says violated its airspace near the Syrian border. The Russian Defence Ministry and Turkish Presidency, quoted in Russian and Turkish media reports, have both described the plane as Russian, and video posted by the Haberturk TV station appeared to show the jet coming down in flames. A military official, quoted by Turkey's Dogan news agency, said the plane was shot down by Turkish F16s, and that the pilot was given prior warning. Various reports described the plane as coming down in hostile Syrian territory, and the fate of the two pilots on board was unknown. Initial reports claim that the pilots successfully ejected and are safe. But the story is developing. The Russian Ministry of Defense says that it has proof that the plane was flying in Syrian, not Turkish, airspace at the time of the attack. We cannot emphasize enough how jaw-droppingly dumb Turkey is: A NATO member just shot down a Russian military jet. UPDATE: A video has surfaced claiming to show the body of one of the pilots. The fate of the second pilot is still unknown. " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydw14n8OYdI --- http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/graphic-video-moderate-rebels-display… " Graphic Video: Terrorists Display Body of Russian Pilot Shot Down by Turkey A video has surfaced that allegedly shows “moderate rebels” celebrating over the body of a Russian pilot whose plane was shot down earlier today by Turkey An act of war. Plain and simple. In a disturbing development, it appears that at least one of the two Russian pilots who were shot down over Syria by Turkey earlier today is dead. The below video allegedly shows the west's favorite “moderate rebels” celebrating over the dead body of one of the pilots, who apparently was able to eject from the plane but did not survive. Is NATO really going to defend this barbarity? Unfortunately the answer could be “yes”. " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aryCZEKIlgs --- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-plane-shot-down-live… http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/turkey-shoots-warplane-syria-border-1… http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/world/europe/turkey-syria-russia-military… http://tass.ru/en/politics/838765

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900 Embedded Devices Share Hard-Coded Certs, SSH Host Keys
by Rayzer 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

900 Embedded Devices Share Hard-Coded Certs, SSH Host Keys Posted by timothy on Thursday November 26, 2015 @03:00PM from the same-assembly-line dept. An anonymous reader writes: Embedded devices of some 50 manufacturers has been found sharing the same hard-coded X.509 certificates (for HTTPS) and SSH host keys, a fact that can be exploited by a remote, unauthenticated attacker to carry out impersonation, man-in-the-middle, or passive decryption attacks <http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=19159>. SEC Consult has analyzed firmware images of more than 4000 embedded devices of over 70 vendors — firmware of routers, IP cameras, VoIP phones, modems, etc. — and found that, in some cases, there are nearly half a million devices on the web using the same certificate. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/11/26/1541216/900-embedded-devices-sh…

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