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US: "Abandon the Uniform of the Oppressor"
by grarpamp 24 Sep '16

24 Sep '16

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/23/we-want-the-tapes-charlotte-protesters-… https://theintercept.com/2016/09/22/charlotte-police-chief-refuses-to-relea… https://theintercept.com/2016/09/21/27-u-s-senators-rebel-against-arming-sa… USA... perhaps not completely forgone...

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[RUS] Ukraine - the amazing change
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

For anyone following major geopolitical events in the last three years, the following is an amazing shift - from the floor of the parliament of Ukraine. I do feel sad for the people of Ukraine who have suffered immensely as a result of this particular Soros-lead "regime change operation". ** Julia Timoshenko to Victor Yanukovich: 'Come Back, My Tormentor!' (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413…) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Alexei Pankin on Thu, Sep 22, 2016 History seems to be going in circles.Back in the 1970s - early 1980s - the vast majority of Soviet citizens were ashamed to live in their country, ruled by Leonid Brezhnev, a senile asthmatic pronouncing endless inaudible speeches, basking in praise, bending under the weight of decorations awarded to him by his Politburo peers or leaders of ‘friendly’, or ’brotherly’ countries.Brezhnev died in 1982 and in 1985 a youthful and energetic Gorbachev came to power, leading the Soviet Union to choose a European market democracy — civilization, in other words. Read more » (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…) (Other news: ** Did the UN Just Admit That Russia Isn't Responsible For Attack on Syria Aid Convoy? (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413…) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Matthew Allen on Wed, Sep 21, 2016 We knew we were in for a real treat when the United States announced that Russia had bombed a U.N. aid convoy in Syria. What a terrible crime against humanity, timed perfectly to distract from the fact that, for lack of a better term, the U.S. was caught giving air support to ISIS. As always, Russia is guilty until proven deserving of more sanctions. Read more » (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413…)

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group ("tribe") authority, and The State legitimacy
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

In the mind of the middle of the bell curve, the state has legitimacy in the exercise of its authority, to a fair degree. This perceived legitimacy arises from the group: - the perceived consent of the group/ majority - the input/vote by the "governed" or "controlled" The state loses legitimacy due to - exercise of power beyond moral foundation - abuse of power by officers of the authority - duopoly: two parties both funded by the same oligarchs The legitimacy of any social order/ system arises from the shared, implied / tacit and or explicit, consent of the "governed". Consent can be: - implicit/ tacit - the people don't protest / object - the people vote at elections, and the rest is taken as a "mandate" for the winning party - explicit vote on every issue - like Switzerland - direct democracy style Possible foundations / principles / thought hooks: - delegated power and authority, by people, to an external authority - duration of delegation of any authority (duration of a parliament until the next election, vs duration as voted on by the people) - every activity is lawful except that a supermajority votes against it - every activity on the commons is unlawful except that a law voted by a supermajority allows it - When must a majority be merely a majority (50%+), - when must it be a supermajority (50%+ across all sub groups, or e.g. 60% or 75% across all voters)? Divisions of power and authority: - individual - family, small group - large group, corporation, state - geographic vs intention/ agreement to group - home level, street level, suburb, city, state, nation No authority except by consent of he who shall be imposed upon. Any change will require a concensus - speak your hierarchy of principles in a way Joe Sixpack can hear you. Choose a grand goal, but carefully consider the steps between now, and the end goal, and how to obtain agreement or mutual consent in conversation with Joe to a ladder of principles which ultimately achieves desired end goal.

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In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]
by grarpamp 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:15 AM, John Newman <jnn(a)synfin.org> wrote: > I don't > suppose anyone has an ePub they could > shoot me? Continued secrecy of private knowledge. > Or is it worth $30 for a 1995 > paperback, maybe so... For this small price of love, you could grant it it's freedom, for everyone, forever... http://custodians.online/

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Fw: Activist DESTROYS 19 Red Light Cameras and Turns Himself In
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

Hawaii's red light and fixed "speeding" cameras had to be decomissioned not so long after launch - this is where Australia's first batch of traffic cameras came from, the ex-Hawaii cams :/ In America, the ability to just shoot out a traffic camera is easier in general since carrying firearms is quite a bit more common than in Australia. ----- Forwarded message from Jim <jim.sovereign(a)optusnet.com.au> ----- Subject: Activist DESTROYS 19 Red Light Cameras and Turns Himself In He deserves 'Hero of the People' status. http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/activist-destroys-19-red-light-cameras-…

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Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF
by juan 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:10:27 -0000 xorcist(a)sigaint.org wrote: > > However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is > > going to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills > > because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the > > subway system is...not plausible. > > It's all about misdirection, and subtle cues. Yes, but there isn't anything extraordinary about it. He's simply trying to distract his target. There isn't any profound scientific principle or insight behind that. Or, the insight may be that you better double check facts and evidence. That would be a useful teaching, but not a sound case against rationalism. > I haven't seen Derren's > explanation of this particular example, but from what I know of the > subject, here is my take: > > The chat about the subway is misdirection. > ...etc > It's conceivable he stages some things, too. Like any magician. In that same video he fails to scam a guy who sells hotdogs - as a matter of fact the hotdog guy is rather pissed off. But then he sucessfuly steals $4500 from a jewelry store? Not believable at all, not even as staged entertainment. > > > I do think that Darren is socially engineering people. The > > people who watch their videos, IF they think are real... > > But if you believe a talented magician never manages to fool people > successfully, you're naive. Yes, they'll stage stuff too, but that is > hardly the point. The point is that you are advancing an anti rationalistic view of human nature, and apparently presenting as evidence stuff that...isn't convincing. > The skills of illusion, and "mentalism" are quite real.. and if you > watch more of his stuff, especially the longer videos or full > episodes where he breaks down the hows and whys of it working, > perhaps you'll be less likely to say its fake. It's easy to dismiss a > magic trick as "camera edits" when you just have a 3 minute video. > It's a bit harder when the magician explains the whole thing to you. Magic tricks don't have much to do with this. Magic tricks rely on exploiting shortcomings of perception, "the hand is quicker than the eye", that sort of thing. But indeed nobody believes that those magic tricks are 'real' magic. If anything they prove that people are rational and know that magicians can't make rabbits dissapear - they know it's 'illusion'. If on the other hand Derren is 'staging' the jewelry store video, that means he and the guy at the shop are playing a part and the video isn't even 'illusion', it's outright fake. > > In the videos I linked to, he uses a lot of body language mirroring. > Whatever movements the subject makes, he mirrors with his own body > language. Then, when he feels like he has the person, he'll move away > as a test and do other movements to see if they have begun mirroring > him, in return. > > Then he handed them the water bottle, while asking for something in > return. They continue to mirror, they have received, so they'll give. > This is doubly effective, since there is a subconscious desire for > reciprocity. OK, so maybe handing the bottle of water makes it more likely that they other guy would hand something in return. A neat trick, which might work. Sometimes. Still, this is no sound philosophical principle. > > And then yes, they realize it. Their rational mind kicks back in, and > they'll realize it. But the fact that the rational mind can be so > easily subverted, should give one pause. So he failed 50 times and then tricked one guy for 10 seconds. Is that evidence against rationalism? > > He uses a lot of techniques, but "neuro-linguistic programming" (NLP) > is the bread-and-butter. > > I have some familiarity with the techniques.. book learning, > basically. I've never employed them, at least not consciously, but I > can say that I see a lot of this stuff in advertisements and > politicians speeches. > > Seems to me there is something to it, As in you can trick some people under some special circumstances for a short period? Yes. But I don't think there are wider implications. > whether Derren is 100% above > board, or not. >

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Torgate: Tor’s Branding Pivot is Going to Get Someone Killed
by grarpamp 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

Virgil Griffith- Research Scientist in Singapore Sep 4 Tor’s Branding Pivot is Going to Get Someone Killed Aka, human rights activism meets the Cobra Effect Three weeks ago, The Tor Project, Inc. published their Tor Social Contract. The contract was covered by the media, but the media focused on the policy not to backdoor software (as though that were surprising?), and regrettably, missed the real story carefully hidden in the first bullet: 1. We advance human rights by creating and deploying usable anonymity and privacy technologies. ... ... ... Tor’s branding pivot is misguided, damaging for global privacy, and ironically, harmful to Asian human rights. Anonymity requires not just company, it requires diverse company, yet Tor has increased the barrier-to-entry for all non-HR Tor users. This something Tor has brought upon itself, and they are knowingly throwing their most vulnerable users under the bus. After seven years of proud service to Tor including: founding Tor2web, Roster, and Toroken, as well as writing a Tor Tech Report and running several high-performance relays, I am resigning because: •Given my residency in Southeast Asia, Tor’s pivot creates nonnegligible risk for me personally. •I do not trust an organization which prefers reaping modest public relations benefits within comparably cozy jurisdictions over the security of its neediest users risking imprisonment. Tor is carefully positioning itself away from the efficacious privacy promotor it used to be.

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Volunteers
by juan 22 Sep '16

22 Sep '16

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[Fwd: Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF]
by xorcist＠sigaint.org 21 Sep '16

21 Sep '16

Ooops. Sent this to Juan offlist, but meant to copy the list on it too. > However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is going > to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills > because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the > subway system is...not plausible. It's all about misdirection, and subtle cues. I haven't seen Derren's explanation of this particular example, but from what I know of the subject, here is my take: The chat about the subway is misdirection. He makes it a point to start moving his hands, point this way and that about "directions" .. that gets the cashier looking away from what they're doing and subtly distracted, looking at him, and away from what they are supposed to be doing. Then he mentions being uneasy about the subway. This is an important part. Because it will tend to make the listener remember a time they were uneasy or had a bad experience on the subway. This memory, and any associated emotional impact, puts them entirely "within their head" for just a moment. Then comes pay off. "Go ahead, just take it. It's fine." while handing him the paper.. overtly referring to his friend, telling him to take the subway, but covertly a command to accept the "money." The jewelry store guy DID realize it, shortly after, as well as did the guys with the wallets. That is to be expected. The suggestible state doesn't last indefinitely. If you look into his work, he has admitted that he has more failures than successes depending on the complexity of the trick, and that his show is about entertainment, primarily, and so only the successes are shown. It's conceivable he stages some things, too. Like any magician. > I do think that Darren is socially engineering people. The > people who watch their videos, IF they think are real... But if you believe a talented magician never manages to fool people successfully, you're naive. Yes, they'll stage stuff too, but that is hardly the point. The skills of illusion, and "mentalism" are quite real.. and if you watch more of his stuff, especially the longer videos or full episodes where he breaks down the hows and whys of it working, perhaps you'll be less likely to say its fake. It's easy to dismiss a magic trick as "camera edits" when you just have a 3 minute video. It's a bit harder when the magician explains the whole thing to you. In the videos I linked to, he uses a lot of body language mirroring. Whatever movements the subject makes, he mirrors with his own body language. Then, when he feels like he has the person, he'll move away as a test and do other movements to see if they have begun mirroring him, in return. Then he handed them the water bottle, while asking for something in return. They continue to mirror, they have received, so they'll give. This is doubly effective, since there is a subconscious desire for reciprocity. And then yes, they realize it. Their rational mind kicks back in, and they'll realize it. But the fact that the rational mind can be so easily subverted, should give one pause. He uses a lot of techniques, but "neuro-linguistic programming" (NLP) is the bread-and-butter. I have some familiarity with the techniques.. book learning, basically. I've never employed them, at least not consciously, but I can say that I see a lot of this stuff in advertisements and politicians speeches. Seems to me there is something to it, whether Derren is 100% above board, or not.

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The Cypherpunk Revolution
by Cecilia Tanaka 21 Sep '16

21 Sep '16

http://passcode.csmonitor.com/cypherpunk * This article is an excerpt from “ Rise of the Machines : A Cybernetic History ” by Thomas Rid. sea sea :)

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