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Fw: [openzfs/zfs] mentions to 'child gangs' in the source (#10554)
by Zenaan Harkness 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

----- Forwarded message from Zenaan <github.com(a)freedbms.net> ----- From: Zenaan To: openzfs/zfs <reply+AAA7QRBF67OKNB3S56PUWTV5ENR7REVBNHHCODTXHQ(a)reply.github.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:40:14 +1000 Subject: Re: [openzfs/zfs] mentions to 'child gangs' in the source (#10554) On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:06:16PM -0700, misterbigstuff wrote: > wanted to ask people to just remain on-topic for finding a new term to describe gang blocks, if you want to debate the philosophy of it, do so somewhere else. (And yet, you used the _more_ triggering term "child gangs" in your subject line: this is disingenuous by you, and belies that within you is a hidden agenda, and an intention which you fail to disclose to us.) If the leadership falls for this continued attack on rationality, for "the benefit of people's feelings", that will be a sad indictment against that leadership. To put feelings above facts, is to raise into authority he, or she, who brings those purported "feelings" to the table as a relevant and significant issue (in this case, supposedly, "in relation to a hypothetical developer's lack of contributions due to their feelings). Matthew Ahrens, for whatever reasons, is taking the submission/ politically "comfortable" approach of appeasement and submission, bowing low and proferring to offer up supplication in the form of "working together" and "communicating fruitfully", which is a little sad in the face of the inherently divisive language and intentions beinw either wittingly or unwittingly blought to this community. Matthew I put to you this and mak my words: this is a pure power play, and nothing else. Be deceived at peril. Your statement in the other thread: > Some people (myself included) feel that there is a connection, however unintended, between "whitelist/blacklist" and implicit bias / systemic racism. is misguided, your belief is misguided. The reason that your opinion is misguided is that there is a connection between all language, and all problems. Indeed, there is an inherent connection between our very existence, and all problems in the world, and this is inescapable. Neutering our language is never the appropriate solution to any problem. Indeed, neutering the language we use, is not only never an appropriate solution, in fact it always, over the medium to long term, exacerbates and energizes, the very problems that are proclaimed as 'reduced' by the neutering of our language. The reason(s) that neutering our language in any way, exacerbates the problems supposedly 'reduced' by such language neutering, include: - All words have roots in our deep past. - NO amount of language neutering is EVER accepted as sufficient to remedy "the problem" (whatever problem is presented); as there are always more words which have problems, including all words used to replace the "old" wolds, since it is the "trigger" of being reminded of the very concept (not the word itself) which is the (implied/ purported) problem. - Those who proclaim "feelings" as the ground for any such change, can and do change those feelings over time, and correspondingly increase their demands over time. - There are hidden intentions behind all attempts to control language, which most fail to witness, and which few can even properly name. - All concepts still exist, regardless of which word(s) are used to name that concept at any point in history. - The hidden intentions behind all attemps to control our language, are usually unseen until much community and other damage has been done. - Mental illness ought never be a foundation on which technical projects make technical decisions. - Basing any technical decision on any "equality" foundation, rather than on technical and competance considerations, damages the product, and damages the community. - Using the limited resources of a volunteer technical project, to handle the issues of mentally ill people, is perhaps unwise. Unseen virtue signalling, especially towards mentally ill people, is dangerous. @ahrens , I suggest you carefully consider the following questions, and possibly ask them of pourself whilst you're at it: I suggest the following questions be put to any and all persons who come to the OpenZFS/ZoL projects proclaiming to want "inclusiveness" whilst bringing divisive issues: - Given your statement that you are triggered emotionally by plain words which are used in this specific and highly technical context, why do you say that you do NOT need professional help? - Why do you say that this project, which is both volunteer AND with very limited resources, should spend time making changes to accommodate you, when you appear to require professional help? - Have you ever had a mental illness? - Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness? - If you have never been diagnosed with a mental illness, do you consider that you may need professional help, either by a psychiatrist, or a psychologist, or by a counsellor? ----- End forwarded message ----- -------------------------------------------------------------------- And a message from the github thread https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10458 GregorKopka commented on Jul 8 The following comment on slashdot.org nicely describes my view on the situation: > I strongly suspect the people who are pushing for these things fall into > two camps. The first camp are people who genuinely want to control the > language, and by proxy, thought. These are very dangerous people and > should be resisted at all times. The second camp are people who genuinely > want to do something so they can be a part of this current trend and feel > like they are participating in a meaningful way. These are ordinary decent > people, but are certainly influenced by the bluster and actions of the > first camp. > > Here's the thing, though. If you're in the second camp, your actions will > not save you from the first camp. The authoritarians in the first camp are > fundamentally about control, and if you stand in their way, your past > actions will mean nothing. Anything less than complete subservience to > whatever ideology is currently in vogue in the first camp, is treated as a > viral attack and is stamped out with extreme prejudice. Your past > capitulation will not serve you in the future. > > Nobody--at least nobody with a lick of sense or proportion--actually > thinks that changing "master/slave" to something else will accomplish > anything of substance or real value. It's nothing more than a publicity > stunt to demonstrate that you are not like those people over there, the > racists. It's a signal of your adherence to the new narrative, nothing > more. The authoritarians in the first camp will acknowledge your signal, > and they now know that later you will be more likely to accept the next > click on the ratchet. Make no mistake, however; when they ratchet it too > far for you, nothing you did in the past will save you. > > It's the behavior of cults, and used to great effect at controlling > behavior. What's surprising is how many tech people are susceptible to it. I ask we put this to rest and instead deal with the important matters. Like figuring out how not to piss off existing contributors hard enough for them to make github delete everything they ever did, removing a fair part of the usability of the issue tracker in the process (which as far as I understood it is what has happened to @kpande). Or how to move to (preferably self-hosted) platforms that make such destructive things impossible (or at least able to recover from, would the boxes backing this issue tracker run ZFS and be under control of OpenZFS then what's lost could be recovered from snapshots - it's IMHO a sad joke that this isn't the case) while not taking the data belonging to the OpenZFS project (or contributors to it) hostage out of greed (slack). Please no more virtue signaling in the hopes of maybe attracting new contributors. Contributors which might very well not exist in the first place as the amount of humans interested and able in the intersection of C, Kernel and Filesystem programming (plus living in a situation that allows for free time to actually spend on that) is somewhat limited. Contributors which, from being able to wield logic (which enables them to program in the first place), will likely have no mental problems at all with the distinction between master/slave describing relations between parts of machinery vs. the same words describing humans committing crimes against humanity. TL;DR: Please stop destroying the meaning of language, in case you need a further argument about this please consult the late Mr. Carlin, for no good reason but concentrate on what is actually important instead.

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TechRadar: Qualcomm Snapdragon bugs leave almost half of all smartphones open to attack
by jim bell 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

TechRadar: Qualcomm Snapdragon bugs leave almost half of all smartphones open to attack. https://www.techradar.com/news/qualcomm-snapdragon-bugs-leave-almost-half-o…

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Ars Technica: New Jersey prosecutors drop charges over tweeting a cop’s photo [Updated]
by jim bell 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

Ars Technica: New Jersey prosecutors drop charges over tweeting a cop’s photo [Updated]. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/five-charged-with-felonies-for-…

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by grarpamp 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAzQl1E2OQw

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Watch "Assange Update: Lawyers Speculate the US will Drop all Charges & Re-arrest Julian Assange" on YouTube
by jim bell 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

https://youtu.be/UM9dir1bSxU

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by rooty 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

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adoredtv.com: Exclusive: Intel CPU Vulnerability Can Be Used to Kill CPUs and Crash Systems
by jim bell 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

adoredtv.com: Exclusive: Intel CPU Vulnerability Can Be Used to Kill CPUs and Crash Systems. https://adoredtv.com/exclusive-intel-cpu-vulnerability-can-be-used-to-kill-…

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NPR: From Desert Battlefields To Coral Reefs, Private Satellites Revolutionize The View
by jim bell 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

NPR: From Desert Battlefields To Coral Reefs, Private Satellites Revolutionize The View. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/08/890461092/from-desert-battlefields-to-coral-…

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Re: " Well, we can thank government agents like Jim Bell and his fucking lies for providing such an excuse." [WAS: Got Drunk And Accidentally Hit The Return Button Before I Finished Blathering Endlessly...
by Zenaan Harkness 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

Freedom is won by the Army Of One there was a Dark Cloud gathering over the world that needed to be dealt with Entitled, self-serving AssHoles are dancing in the streets, with *no* idea that they are puppets on a string whose role is to suffer the *real* pain and shed the *real* blood that the PuppetMasters will be using to throw the net over those still capable of understanding freedom bask in the 'shame' that is inevitable when one counters the 'narrative' of the Dark OverLords the Dark Forces are playing for 'all of the marbles' having the courage to stay the course taking a moral stance - a million simple souls who come to their moment of truth, take a moral stance, and stand fast The Future Is Now a million little people to do a single thing...a small thing. A thing that is insignificant, in the larger scheme of things, but a thing that is *right* Blame Nobody. Expect nothing. Do something. On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 01:38:29AM +0000, CJ Parker wrote: > JB,I didn't know Dr. Dimitri Vulis had a son...I don't believe I ever thanked you for taking the trouble to seek me out at SeaTac so we could communicate just a tad. To tell the truth, at that point I was close to just throwing in the towel and confessing to killing the Kennedy's..or whatever. One day you and I and Phil Zimmerman, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden should get together for a few beers and have some laughs over a government document I uncovered that discusses us all in the same breath. During my journey into the Belly of the Beast I took the time to sit down and write my father and explain that there was a Dark Cloud gathering over the world that needed to be dealt with, and I hoped that he would not be 'disappointed' in his oldest son for stepping forward to bask in the 'shame' that is inevitable when one counters the 'narrative' of the Dark OverLords. > My dad fought in WW II, so he understood the 'dark clouds' I was talking about, even though they were just beginning to form. Yourself, and a precious few others, understand that we are living in a time where the Dark Forces are playing for 'all of the marbles'... > Zimmerman's glory comes from having the courage to stay the course at a time when even those of us who knew what he was doing was important didn't really understand the possible dangers that could result from the moral stance he was taking. Assange's glory comes from his knowledge that he was *destined* to walk forward into the WasteLand, as a scapegoat who could never be redeemed. Snowden's glory is that he stepped out, seemingly clueless as to what the future really held in store for him, and did the *only* thing that could be done by a person of conscience, while knowing, deep inside, that he was now *totally* *fucked* and that there was no turning back. > I think you and I were kind of like a version of Snowden, only we were 'purposely' in denial of our future because we were juvenile troublemakers who didn't really give a fuck...we were going to have some fucking *fun* and were willing to take some lumps to do it. > Them thar 'Dark Clouds' are now ready to Rock & Roll. Entitled, self-serving AssHoles are dancing in the streets, with *no* idea that they are puppets on a string whose role is to suffer the *real* pain and shed the *real* blood that the PuppetMasters will be using to throw the net over those still capable of understanding freedom. > The Future Is Now! And the only hope for mankind is for a million little people to do a single thing...a small thing. A thing that is insignificant, in the larger scheme of things, but a thing that is *right*... > Do a web search for, "Blame Nobody. Expect nothing. Do something." You will find a billion references to Bill Parcells, an inspirational football coach. But I know where he got the saying...it was on a shithouse wall in a bar in Flagstaff, Arizona, years before it was attributed to him. I was taking a leak with him when we had a laugh about it. I'm too old and befuddled to remember who the shithouse graffiti attributed the quote to, but it is a universal truth that bespeaks the only hope for the world and the society we live in. > Phil Zimmerman really only did a single thing...then he stood fast and persevered. Julian Assange stood fast and persevered and accomplished a lot of things...then he ran like hell and did the best he could to find a place of safety. Edward Snowden did a single thing, ran to the closest thing that could be called a place of safety and made an effort to be a voice in the wilderness attempting to explain, in the simplest ]way, why the single, simple thing he did was so indelibly important to the future of freedom. > There are a million 'causes'...pushing a million 'agendas'...we are surrounded by them and being overwhelmed by them. They all call out for our attention, and our support...asking us to join in the Great Battle. And they are all full of shit! Freedom is won by the Army Of One. The skies were cleared of the Dark Clouds hovering over Europe, over the world, by the bodies of the dead soldiers lying on the beaches of Normandy...each man being an Army Of One, doing a single thing...something he was capable of doing...to take a stand and persevere against mighty, dark powers capable of overwhelming us all. For every Mahatma Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandella, there are a million simple souls who come to their moment of truth, take a moral stance, and stand fast. > The world needs cheerleaders...John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King..but the games are won in the trenches. It won't be long before each of us is faced with our moment of truth and will have to decide iffreedom is important enough to us to willingly become just another body on the beaches of Normandy. The *real* Heroes of the rEvolution are buried in unmarked graves... > JB, you've certainly done your part. Maybe you'll get a chance to do more, as well. > Me? I Spit In The Eye Of The Lie... I did my part, too. > The game is afoot... Tell everyone you know: "Blame Nobody. Expect Nothing. Do Something." > It is all we can do...and it is our only hope. > > CJ Parker #05987-196 Proud To Be A Felon In AMERI A

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Re: [MINISTRY] - Twitter: “state-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, will not be labeled”
by Zig the N.g 09 Aug '20

09 Aug '20

Sorry, left out the actual George Galloway piece: George Galloway: I now wear a star on my chest thanks to Twitter’s extraordinary ‘state media’ discrimination https://www.rt.com/op-ed/497370-galloway-twitter-state-affiliated/ ----- Forwarded message from "Zig the N.g" <ziggerjoe(a)yandex.com> ----- From: "Zig the N.g" <ziggerjoe(a)yandex.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:08:51 +1000 Subject: [MINISTRY] - Twitter: “state-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, will not be labeled” RT's George Galloway racks up another feather in his cap as Twitter's new "red scare" "R" for Russian interference campaign gets going and all the (non-US, non-UK etc) media outlets get ... <sinister music> ... labelled!!! OOh! Twitter Support however does set the record straight: When it comes to conversations with government and state-affiliated media accounts on Twitter, we’re helping to make the experience more transparent. We'll now use two distinct profile labels for these types of accounts, so you can easily identify them and their Tweets. (1/2) pic.twitter.com/JW67o422MO https://t.co/JW67o422MO Twitter is serving a great public service on the world by letting us know who is a possible "ebil election interferer", with (((Twitter management))) deeming those bad accounts as bad and de-ranking, removing from your "Twitter front page" etc. Be afraid, be very afraid … of corporate censorship... Twitter labels RT & Sputnik but NOT BBC, NPR & VOA as it launches blitz on state media staff & govt officials https://www.rt.com/news/497293-twitter-label-state-media-officials/ ----- End forwarded message -----

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