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re: Intel design flaw
by Ryan Carboni 05 Jan '18

05 Jan '18

https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/3/797 A *competent* CPU engineer would fix this by making sure speculation > doesn't happen across protection domains. Maybe even a L1 I$ that is > keyed by CPL. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10518480 Aye, too many people have this defeatist attitude that since perfect > security will never be possible, therefore the only valid solution is > reactive security (bug-patch cycles). Patch dependence is considered too > entrenched for making some changes like replacing ambient authority with > capabilities, using failure-oblivious computing [1] to redirect invalid > reads and writes, using separation kernels, information flow control, > proper MLS [2], program shepherding for origin and control flow monitoring > [3] and general fault tolerance/self-healing [4]. > I used to look up to Linus Torvalds as many did, but am increasingly > beginning to see him as a threat to the advancement of the industry with > his faux pragmatism that has led him to speak out against everything from > security to microkernels and kernel debuggers. > [1] https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~cristic/papers/fo-osdi-04.pdf > [2] http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.52.... > [3] https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/sec02/full_papers/kiria... > [4] https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~angelos/Papers/2007/mmm-acns-se...

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Re: [Cryptography] Speculation re Intel HW cockup; reqs. OS rewrites & slow execution
by grarpamp 05 Jan '18

05 Jan '18

> comments have been redacted Such things have no use of course, other than to protect and onmessage the big closed corporations and communities that are the source of the problems from their own embarassment and downfall. They get all the juicy 0day upgrades and news massaging while the littles and the embeddeds are left to flounder in the preventable errors of the big. Secrecy in HW and SW systems has proven no overarching benefit to you, all the while bringing exploit after exploit after exploit. Stop buying secret shit. Including in your GOV systems.

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"Razer", the biggest / intensest fascist on the cypherpunks list
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Jan '18

05 Jan '18

Razer, you are the most fascist "idiot" (I'd prefer to say worse things, but I'm currently convinced you're just a marijuana fucked brain with legs) on this list. On the other hand, you've had very interesting contributions - also in the area of historical protests/ punch ups etc. So one might be forgiven for being somewhat conflicted about you. Bong on I guess... like, duuuuuuuuude! * Citation i Call to murder on the spot. Justification that "they don't debate your position", whilst of course Razer fails his own mass debate principle. Unfortunately there's no second option from hypocritical fascists like Razer, including no option to actually debate (see examples below). Subject: Re: Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever [was - Re: free speech 'marches on' as they say] On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 06:06:46PM -0800, Razer wrote: > Because they don't debate your position. > > They threaten your life instead. > > They have no interest in your position. You have no rights. > > Kill them when you find them. > > They are the human societal cancer they accuse others of being. > > It's always 'those other people'. Then one day you're 'those other > people'. > > Rr * Citation 0 Razer supports murder of those whose political ideology disagrees with his own (in this case, what he terms "fascists") - see last sentence in the quoted email: Subject: #RichardSpencerPunchingBag [Was: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries] On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 04:52:11PM -0800, Razer wrote: > On 01/23/2017 12:15 PM, John Newman wrote: > > > The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I > > didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the > > nazis to bolster your bullshit. > > > > Have a horrible fucking day :) > > > > > > John > > > > Wouldn't have even seen this but you responded to 'it'. > > It isn't worth the response except to say the Hashtags > #RIchardSpencer and #RichardSpencerPunchingBag are being suppressed > by Twitter and FB because either A> They'd overtake #JustinBieber, > B> some safe space neonazis and their liberal friends complained it > would promote violence. > I can tell by the failure of 'dropdown recommendations'. to > materialize. Even on the name. > > I want to point out that all the liberals tsk tsked Richard Spencer > being used as Punching Bag but the crickets chirped in their good > german brains when a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of > those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight... I KNOW > which side liberals are on, and they're perhaps even an easier kill > than neonazis, but I digress... > > I also want to point out it's NOT just a fine old American > Tradition to kill fascists... * Citation 1 "Razer" celebrates the public beating and later murder of a man so convicted of his beliefs that he speaks publicly about those beliefs, and starts a political party in support of those beliefs: > ----- Forwarded message from Razer <g2s(a)riseup.net> ----- > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:49:10 -0800 > From: Razer <g2s(a)riseup.net> > To: "cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org" <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> > Subject: [TriggerWarning: #NaziPunching] Great Nazi punchers in history... > yy > SDSU student Ed Cherry smacked the shit out of George Lincoln Rockwell > in the middle of a speech at San Diego State in 1962. > > > Self-styled American Nazi party leader George Lincoln Rockwell was > > slugged, hissed and booed when he spoke in the Greek Bowl March 8, as > > he hurled verbal blasts at minority groups to a crowd of about 3,000. > > > > Rockwell said that he had no intention of causing trouble. "If I had > > wanted trouble I could have worn my uniform with my armbands and the > > whole works. Believe me, I know how to stir people up if I want to," > > he said. > > > > > > Rockwell was slugged in the face by Ed Cherry, a SDS (San Diego State) > > senior physical education major, when Rockwell said that "the Jews are > > engaged in a great conspiracy." > > > > A press conference followed in the Aztec office. Rockwell predicted > > that he will be in political power in Virginia within five years > > ROTF He was a DEAD NAZI five years later! > > Archival info @ SDSU > > https://digital.sdsu.edu/index.php?a=ViewItem&i=90684&WINID=1485279750430

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Trump's tonic masculinity: “What the fuck is this?”
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Jan '18

05 Jan '18

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/tonic-masculinity/ Tonic Masculinity December 5, 2017 by CH Via Libertardian, a great snippet from the new insiders’ book about Trump on the campaign trail, Reading Lewandowski’s book (Let Trump be Trump). ‘When Jason Miller joined the campaign as communications adviser, and Paul Manafort was still the campaign’s chairman, the two would come up with lengthy briefing notes for Trump’s radio interviews containing information like “This guy’s located in X city or market and has been the show’s host for X number of years, and he has an X-thousand-person listenership.” Trump would look at the paper and say, “What the fuck is this? I don’t need all this. Just give me a phone number and tell me who to call.”’ I lol’d. That’s the difference between President Chad and the Studycunt (as MPC so pungently coined it). The Virgin Studycunt vs the Chad President. Tonic masculinity is back in the White House and not a moment too soon.

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Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)
by g2s 05 Jan '18

05 Jan '18

Marina wrote: "Nowadays my emotional reaction to TSA and the like is about the same as it was as a kid passing through E. Germany. PAPERS PLEASE !" John Kay of the band Steppenwolf is the son of East German immigrants. He came to the states young, but he had a vicious take on it... or was the song The Ostrich about America, even in the 1960s? "We'll call you when you're six years oldAnd drag you to the factory To train your brain for eighteen years With promise of security But then you're free And forty years you waste to chase the dollar sign So you may die in Florida At the pleasant age of sixty nine The water's getting hard to drink We've mangled up the country side The air will choke you when you breathe We're all committing suicide But it's alright It's progress folks keep pushin' till your body rots We'll strip the earth of all it's green And then divide her into parking lots But there's nothing you and I can do You and I are only two What's right and wrong is hard to say Forget about it for today We'll stick our heads into the sand Just pretend that all is grand Then hope that everything turns out ok You're free to speak your mind my friend As long as you agree with me Don't criticize the father land Or those who shape your destiny 'Cause if you do You'll lose your job your mind and all the friends you knew We'll send out all our boys in blue They'll find a way to silence you But there's nothing you and I can do You and I are only two What's right and wrong is hard to say Forget about it for today We'll stick our heads into the sand Just pretend that all is grand Then hope that everything turns out ok It sounds like... https://youtube.com/watch?v=8SeUqDjPeP0 Also see Monster/Suicide/America https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-vGxe1eMmQ Randalls Island Live edition. Black activists had taken over the small soccer stadium off harlem NY where the 3 day concert took place with the help of a number of white ny radicals and made it a free concert. The song opens with their road manager explaining to some surly looking BPPs how they had to negotiate a pay cut with another venue they were booked at because they wanted to be THERE, and how much the band liked playing NY... Madison Square Garden... One of them says "This isnt Madison Square Garden its a political protest." He responds: "If you'll allow me... You'll find out thats EXACTLY what we're going to do. Ps. The footage of the war and protests shown in the video are not added. It was the light show projected on the stage backdrop. Later, when Leslie West and Mountain played, someone had accessed the score and announcing booth and raised the NLF flag over the stadium, and a good time was had by all. Rr null

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Re: Intel design flaw
by John Young 04 Jan '18

04 Jan '18

Security is like sin, without flaws no need for it. And like religion it's forever fallible, requiring constant fixes and upgrades. Last thing security experts want is infallibility. Do security experts build in flaws? Of course. No wonder insiders betray bosses, set up own shop.

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Intel design flaw
by Ryan Carboni 04 Jan '18

04 Jan '18

P.S. forgot this. https://lobste.rs/s/mij1sz/some_security_people_are_f_cking_morons#c_2b4mfh

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Intel design flaw
by John Newman 04 Jan '18

04 Jan '18

Looks like Intel has done it again! Who needs uid == root when you can just run on an Intel proc and take a peek at protected memory anytime you like, cuz the silicon's fucked? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/ OS VM layers are being rapidly rewritten, performance hits will accrue, and who knows what else is broke...

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Intel design flaw
by Ryan Carboni 04 Jan '18

04 Jan '18

Fortunately Intel's IA-64 was designed properly, with coarse multithreading, and explicit simultaneous instruction dispatch. There is also enough demand for IA-64 for them to keep releasing new versions. It is also fortunate that Project Zero doesn't release exploits for the predominant processor within thirty days, the same goes for the predominant web browser. I wonder what went wrong with processor design. Pentium 4 had about a hundred million transistors. Now they have roughly thirty times that. Given the amount of time spent on switching contexts and loading data, instead of improving artificial benchmarks, reducing idle time would've been better by allowing each core to hold thirty threads. Although carryless multiplication would have been useful right when AES was adopted.... Extrastatecraft is a good read.

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Cypherpunks Predictions For 2018...
by grarpamp 04 Jan '18

04 Jan '18

Beyond mere greetings and cheers, tis now about time for some sort of official cypherpunks predictions for 2018 thread. Thus find in reply the predictions and wagers of many cypherpunks...

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