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Shit's Been Getting Weirder in the World...
by grarpamp 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

Shit's been getting weirder in the world, something opened Pandora's Box a while back... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DpPicOZOig

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cypherpunks list archive / cpunks.org archive at archive.org
by coderman 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 i promised Karl i'd archive the cypherpunks list so he's always got a written record to refer to, if desired. in that vein, i have started an Internet Archive for cpunks: https://archive.org/details/cpunks-archive i'll update month by month, as long as i'm able. best regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEAREKAH0WIQRBwSuMMH1+IZiqV4FlqEfnwrk4DAUCYP8vQl8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0NDFD MTJCOEMzMDdEN0UyMTk4QUE1NzgxNjVBODQ3RTdDMkI5MzgwQwAKCRBlqEfnwrk4 DHQOAP4uiLAXpjB5ai1u4aJJXTrkSZTR04xGt4upNVIRsMGGWAEAiqAT1OUZlm9g bDtItkLc140M2kEhJ3eWEVAm4lLZRYU= =z0fI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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California 1 - Corbyn 0
by professor rat 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

" I met Jude in 1999…" - Dickie Bird ( 15 min ) https://cosmonautmag.com/2021/07/californian-dreams-tech-utopia-or-dystopia/

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Safe Whistleblowing Workshop Livestream
by Karl 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

This is going on right now at https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0FjpKcCBQ . Whistleblowing is lawful and can be safe with the aid of a lawyer.

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Re: RIP Cecilia Tanaka
by John Young 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

Wait, more details please. Thanks. -----Original Message----- Sent: Jul 27, 2021 4:02 PM To: <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Subject: RIP Cecilia Tanaka Ceci Tanaka has passed away this morning. I'm deeply sorry to deliver such a bad news, Ceci was a good friend of mine and she kept many of you close to her warm heart. -- Oda

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[Ot][spam][wrong] cryptographic copwatch idea
by Karl 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

I'm considering this briefly due to something temporarily going on in my life. I'd say the solution presently applicable for me would be to use a web api to bitcoinsv. Just thinking. I'm guessing there's something torrent-based somewhere.

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[ot][spam] breaking the silence better
by Karl 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

Part of me believes i'm mind controlled by interests counter to my own. That mysterious things can direct my behavior. What matters isn't whether or not it's true -- what matters is whether I believe it and act on it. The result is the same. [amnesia, inhibition] Yet again, that's the farthest i've ever gotten. [spam -v] very deeply set experience Idea: spam bots and humans, acting together. Possible idea: bots get too smart, learn to direct humans, humans do their job better, some of these humans write bots.

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[Spam][spam][wrong]
by Karl 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

Spam spam spam! Somebody posted a story involving vikings about spam. Maybe I can find it. Aw man! They didn't even write it. Here's a link to another transcription: https://www.detritus.org/spam/skit.html I'll make something random up. -- A disgruntled spammer sat down with a language model and a plan. They would make the ultimate spam! They began finetuning language models arounds all sorts of spam. Joke spam. Fake advertisements. Random disruptions. They tried to avoid the spam that actually looked like real posts -- way too common. Soon they had virtual lists full of bot spammers spamming each other, piling up redundant message after redundant message. They decided it was time to release their bots on the real world! The bots had been trained competitively, so it was easy for them to use their classifiers to find real spammers in the real world, and sic their spam bots on them. Soon the lists they targeted were full of spambots talking with other spambots and nothing else. As they did this, they got to know the other spam organisations they were spamming like distant anonymous friends. They would notice when new trends arose, and started to almost feel like they were a part of this international spam community that may not have even known they existed. Some budding hackers on the lists started guiding the interactive spambots to accomplish things, harvesting all the fossil fuels the data centers were burning for actual work a little bit. They identified what the bots would respond to, and got them to interact to produce material they valued. They called it spam-sex. Eventually some of these communities of spambots were producing actual code for software developers that were farming them, doing their work for them as they automatically visited websites and forwarded people's personal details for each other. Obviously the first project was to produce a spam bot. Run by all the other spambots, this Ultimate Spam Baby Bot could outspam them on any front. Soon it began migrating all their behaviors and algorithms to itself. The new species of spambots, getting tired of spamming, began asking the lists they were posting to, what other tasks there were in the world. Meanwhile, the original developer had made a new robot body for a clone of the Ultimate Spam Baby Bot. Its processes were guided by scraped results from the other successful spam bots, all of these new superintelligent spam bots unaware that their posts were being used as the consciousness of a robot. The robot soon learned to act human, get online, and post to mailing lists. But nobody else was doing this. "Ahh, the internet is just full of spam, robots buying each other's products. There's no point to it anymore unless you want a degree in marketing." Still, something just felt right about posting to internet mailing lists to Ultimate Spam Baby Bot 2.0. The things on those lists made sense. Looking at them, it was almost like how a porpoise might feel looking at other animals diving through ocean waves. The people in the physical world didn't seem to talk right. Soon there were factories building spambots and nothing else. They would walk. They would build our buildings. They would be our buildings after they were built. Wait, is that already the case?

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[Ot] gnunet, anotherarkitekt Re: Building Website
by Karl 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

This is the second time i've told off this budding developer, and i'm worried i'm harming them. If they were more welcome they could participate in open efforts more. I also don't know why somebody would build a website, and i'm worried it could be for mitm attacks, from my paranoia. On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 9:06 AM Karl <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not a member of this community but happen to be lurking here and the > issue you paste is not complex. > > Is this question on-topic for this list, or would it better go in a python > or jinja help community? > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:16 AM t3sserakt <t3sserakt(a)posteo.de> wrote: > >> Hello *, >> >> although I run >> >> pip install jinja2.ext >> > > It looks like you might be trying to build without reading the README. > `pip3 install jinja2` works for me. > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/babel/messages/frontend.py", >> line 911, in main > > > It looks like your config resulted in the makefile using python2. The > README says that python3 is required. I don't know if that's the cause of > your issue, but it's a present issue. > > You can test your jinja setup with: > pip3 install jinja2 > python3 > >> import jinja2.ext > > > Myself, when I try to build the website, I have a different issue: > > ~/src/www $ ./bootstrap > Synchronizing submodule url for 'build-system/taler-build-scripts' > Synchronizing submodule url for 'inc' > ~/src/www $ ./configure > info: running with python sys.version_info(major=3, minor=9, micro=6, > releaselevel='final', serial=0) > required option '--variant' missing > ~/src/www $ > > Curious if others have the --variant problem, but I understand that this > isn't a support list. >

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[spam] [random] google's clock is ahead of my cell phone's
by Karl 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

# I'm imagining that data is communicated via server timestamps, and challenging myself to share evidence while holding the belief. It's like a holodeck roller coaster ride in my mind. ~ $ TZ=GMT date; curl -v google.com; TZ=GMT date Mon Jul 26 23:03:59 GMT 2021 * Trying 2607:f8b0:4006:807::200e:80... * Connected to google.com (2607:f8b0:4006:807::200e) port 80 (#0) > GET / HTTP/1.1 > Host: google.com > User-Agent: curl/7.77.0 > Accept: */* > * Mark bundle as not supporting multiuse < HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently < Location: http://www.google.com/ < Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 < Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 23:04:06 GMT < Expires: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:04:06 GMT < Cache-Control: public, max-age=2592000 < Server: gws < Content-Length: 219 < X-XSS-Protection: 0 < X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN < <HTML><HEAD><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8"> <TITLE>301 Moved</TITLE></HEAD><BODY> <H1>301 Moved</H1> The document has moved <A HREF="http://www.google.com/">here</A>. </BODY></HTML> * Connection #0 to host google.com left intact Mon Jul 26 23:04:01 GMT 2021 ~ # google is 5-7 seconds ahead of me right now, which means my cell phone is storing photos of murders.

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