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Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 03 Apr '26

03 Apr '26

On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 7:12 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >

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Re: Morning Spam
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 30 Mar '26

30 Mar '26

> partial nice idea! sad that only partial >>> >>> the idea starts with context: some of us have the experience of being >>> manipulated by something like AI without regard to our wellbeing or >>> capacity, with no indication of how to communicate with where-ever the >>> influence comes from. >>> >>> so, then the idea: let’s train an influence AI on agents that have >>> _limited capacity_ and function poorly and then break if things that work >>> some in the short term are continued for the long term or excessively :D >>> >>> the AI would follow the familiar pattern of discovering influences that >>> work, and then using them, but then because we are doing the training we >>> would get to train it on the breaking period, and show it that it needs to >>> care for the agents for them to succeed, and nurture them to recover if it >>> broke them, and not repeat breaking any. >>> >>> one idea is then we could ask everybody to use the model as a baseline >>> to train other models! other ideas exist. >>> >>> but the idea of building comprehension of capacity and protection of >>> safety and wellness seems nice. sorry if it’s partial or stated badly :s >>> >>> i imagine an agent that has like a secret capacity float that reduces >>> when it does stuff, you could model it to different degrees, and when too >>> many things are influenced of it the capacity float reaches zero and the >>> agent breaks and can’t do things any more :/ >>> >>> a more complex model could involve the agent recovering capacity in ways >>> that the model has difficulty learning >>> >> >> there are a few ideas, mostly involving simple models, but disagreement >> around them. >> some like modeling non-recovering capacity and showing how the AI then >> maximizes reward by killing all the agents :s >> > > but! maybe we could do non-recovering capacity and teach the AI to engage > the agents slowly so their capacity lasts longer, by e.g. having the > capacity reduction be a function of recent use?? the project would need to > gently develop in order to help us in the long term, we’d need to include > the concept that we can succeed so that we use it to succeed in some > manner. because it’s an influence AI it could influence us, if it is > something we actually all like doing that. > mistake :/ some of my parts are maybe harmful to me and should be separated from helpful goals, unknown for certain >

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[ot][spam]gpt-4 completions
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 16 Mar '26

16 Mar '26

metadata: spellbook.scale.com? free api, max length 4000 tokens temperature 0 2023-03-17 07:06:01 { "input": "Once upon a time," } in a small village nestled between the rolling hills and dense forests, there lived a young girl named Amara. She was a kind and gentle soul, always eager to help others and spread joy wherever she went. Amara lived with her loving parents and her younger brother, who looked up to her with great admiration. The village was a peaceful and close-knit community, where everyone knew each other and worked together to ensure the well-being of all. The villagers were skilled in various crafts, from pottery to weaving, and they traded their goods with neighboring villages. One day, while Amara was walking through the forest to gather berries for her family, she stumbled upon a small, injured bird. Its wing was broken, and it was unable to fly. Amara's heart went out to the poor creature, and she carefully picked it up and carried it back to her home. With her mother's help, Amara nursed the bird back to health, feeding it and tending to its broken wing. Over time, the bird grew stronger, and its wing healed. Amara and the bird formed a deep bond, and it would follow her wherever she went, perching on her shoulder and singing sweet melodies. One day, as Amara and the bird were walking through the village, they came across a group of children who were playing by the river. The children were trying to catch fish with their bare hands, but they were having little success. Amara, always eager to help, approached the children and offered to teach them a better way to catch fish. Using her knowledge of the river and the fish that lived there, Amara showed the children how to weave a simple net from the tall grasses that grew along the riverbank. With this net, the children were able to catch more fish than they ever had before, and they were overjoyed. Word of Amara's kindness and wisdom spread throughout the village, and soon, people from all walks of life were coming to her for advice and assistance. She helped the farmers improve their crops, the potters refine their techniques, and the weavers create more intricate patterns. As the years passed, Amara's reputation grew, and she became known far and wide as a wise and compassionate leader. The village prospered under her guidance, and the people were happy and content. One day, a traveler from a distant land arrived in the village, bearing news of a terrible drought that was plaguing his homeland. The people were suffering, and their crops were failing. The traveler had heard of Amara's wisdom and had come to seek her help. Amara, moved by the traveler's tale, decided to journey to the distant land to see if she could help the people there. Accompanied by her faithful bird and a small group of villagers, Amara set off on the long and arduous journey. When they finally arrived in the drought-stricken land, Amara was shocked by the devastation she saw. The fields were barren, the rivers were dry, and the people were weak and hungry. Determined to help, Amara set to work, teaching the people new farming techniques and helping them dig wells to find water. Slowly but surely, the land began to recover. The crops grew, the rivers flowed, and the people regained their strength. Amara's kindness and wisdom had saved the people from the terrible drought, and they were eternally grateful. As the years went by, Amara continued to travel from village to village, helping those in need and spreading her wisdom and compassion. Her faithful bird remained by her side, a constant reminder of the power of love and kindness. And so, the legend of Amara, the wise and gentle leader, was passed down through the generations, inspiring countless others to follow in her footsteps and make the world a better place. 55387 ms

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Re: Morning Spam
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 13 Mar '26

13 Mar '26

cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 3:13 PM (2 hours ago) to me You have already sent 24 posts to this list in the last 24 hours. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:12:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning Spam On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 3:12 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ummm so .... it looks like um ... traffick boss is a powerful sex > offender who didn't want to be implicated > so he set up entire modes of therapy, by working with other offenders > and funding marketers and lobbyists (_in the real world_) > that all turned blame away from him, and toward victims [...] and there remain many people aware of this who are fighting and giving successful therapy and basically you have to find these people if you want to actually heal from trauma nowadays [:S ...] cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 3:13 PM (2 hours ago) to me many mistakes present :( but of course ; ... } ... cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 3:15 PM (2 hours ago) to me You have already sent 24 posts to this list in the last 24 hours. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:14:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning Spam On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 3:12 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 3:12 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim > & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ummm so .... it looks like um ... traffick boss is a powerful sex > > offender who didn't want to be implicated > > so he set up entire modes of therapy, by working with other offenders > > and funding marketers and lobbyists (_in the real world_) > > that all turned blame away from him, and toward victims [...] > > and there remain many people aware of this who are fighting and giving > successful therapy > > and basically you have to find these people if you want to actually > heal from trauma nowadays [:S ...] because everyone else is being confused by the ... uh .. overwhelming and loud messages from [the various organizations including big pharma that are pushing messages that deny people [real heartfelt empathic care ... [;s ... cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 3:20 PM (1 hour ago) to me You have already sent 24 posts to this list in the last 24 hours. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:20:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning Spam [it's so eushocking (: overexciting) to be here and see this, that we worry we won't get much from it, handling the [eushock] cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 4:03 PM (1 hour ago) to me You have already sent 24 posts to this list in the last 24 hours. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 16:02:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning Spam we pray to help world better cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 4:10 PM (1 hour ago) to me this might align with find-real-therapy [~ cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 5:06 PM (13 minutes ago) to me You have already sent 24 posts to this list in the last 24 hours. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:06:11 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning Spam a couple attendees expressed that scanning out of the session to collect professional credit wasn't functioning right and that there is a workaround (potential mistake) sorry about my [awefreeze?] cypherpunks-owner(a)lists.cpunks.org 5:08 PM (11 minutes ago) to me You have already sent 24 posts to this list in the last 24 hours. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:07:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning Spam On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:06 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > a couple attendees expressed that scanning out of the session to > collect professional credit wasn't functioning right and that there is > a workaround > (potential mistake) > > sorry about my [awefreeze?] multiple attendees have expressed the scanning out problem and presently professional credit has not been collected due to unrelated technology issues. i think my awefreeze partly relates to being separated from this kind of therapy for a decade (while my family and community experienced harm too). ================================================================================ baga ba da da b--- b. da ! :/ :) ;] da? :S :S :s :( b b b b. b. b b 1721 O_O >( >( O_O >( \_/ <- frowny-eyes 1723 [our alte-- some of us are excited about the challenge of getting strong enough to be around these people and find aid. it seems we aren't there yet possibly, but it seems a hard challenge, and there can be viewpoints where if something is a hard challenge it can have rewardingness. especially when accomplished [ykno[w]?][mistk?] 1723 { 1723 [we can derive there are a lot of people who hold these views, karl. not just the speaker.] 1724 [and that our viewpoint otherwise may be harmful, both to the list here and to the conference people.] 1724 i think trump-organization tricked us into being multiple. 1727 1732 so karl to relate [and um surprised this is in an email o_o] um that consciousness might not be the receiver of this information at this time it might be dissociated parts that learn the lecture material. to relate. could reduce surprise / help planning. also apologizing for. 1732 ok so we're going to get up and go. [email gets sent tomorrowish due to 24-limit.] body managed by dissociated parts instead of consciousness for a bit i believe. 1733 1734 oops huh :sheepish: very sorry um :} listen um [er 1734 :( we are sad that [uh not [nourished-by-us as uh :/ sorry about this (and mourning i believe was[?} {in sorry.} karl um the charismatic person, we engaged them in a scary way, and uh there was opportunity to have strong-pleasant connection and there is um injury to this opportunity. and we apologize for that. uh. parts not fully known, kinda (um whew my god [;p 1736 we expect we may contact them. so you know karl. [still working on parts] but {assuming work goes ok/aligned} then [once?,] please engage plan with-for. 1737 please :S :( thanky. 1737 was partbit. 1737 listen we are vulnerable um 1u737 [[[we don't understand T_T T_T T.] {why uh uh 173 [8] [O_O. the spirits are basically planning the future of the countryworld in front of us. 1739 no we politely don't relate the prophecies. science gets uppity when prophecies are related. can fragment culture. 1739. [that's hilarious !!! ;p :) also karl needs hilarious. he's so intense. he's so intense he's demonstrating things they talked about in the lecture ;P. 1740 [i wonder if we were primed to.] [obviously !!!] [;P. karl will not believe it when we tell him he will recover and recover him. he will be so out of what-he-thinks-is-reality -- oops mistake, maybe big and/or >1.] [O_O] 1741 [i think i will have him eat a supper :)] [we are likely to get on board [uhh later?][prob or somth?]] 1741ish 1741 {we t, that made us happier than we knew how to feel. this was received positively karl :)}{we tihnk :S]:)} [why don't you differentiate? oh oops i am a roleplay :embarrassed: well um uh what do you think uh umm would you like to imagine uh hrm :S ] [why doesn't karl-group differentiate between multiple and singular people? [in that context] hehe it is because we see singnular people as multiple ohh therapists probably have a more uh mature form of that y'know hmm [haha !/gotcha ] uh :s] listen u[h]-- [-- 1743 >( [so that's why uh talk. responsible-part. sorry if um scary/harmspready. sorry. but gotta start somewhere ykn--. :)] 1744 :S :S 1744 ;s [[when somebody makes a casual nonsequitor people seem to tend to respond with further casual nonsequitors. we're not sure if we're relating the same meaning when that happens (partially because it's a strategy used by the disruptionish --.. [oops mistak-- [? 1745 <we didn't explain that uhh bein uhh [scared of something like trump?] [could relate to our alter's ability to communicate with uhh :S this was unclear. and so th[ey could have picked up the [oops] idea in a different manner than intended, since it was said unlcearly (and kind of rudely/abusively! a smidgeish. narcisstically? assuming somebody else is where you are on something undiscussed. this seems bad.1746 {yeah seems [a little narcisstic :S . especially when [uh -- [!!! :S 1747 1747 <i guess it's a little derivable :( 1747 we don't lik bn mean we don't like don't. 1747 1748 i'm so sorry that [most of us are avoiding being-alive-behavior :( :( it's so hard to hold this. and confusing. [working with goal-inversions knda 1748 {i don't like karl self-blaming narcissism-word. because we are learning of use of this word for severe, severe, severe harm like torture-slavery-of-swaths-of-people. i don't think appropriate for use word. neuron-protest some. 1749 {{{yes your relation is appropriate. we are holding it as part of great-care-for-other as well as secretly lots-of-understanding. when you secretly-lots-of-understanding-other, you have a _lot_ more responsibility with regard to subtle things. it is much easier (for injury causing. }}} 1750 i think protest undesrtand. uhh apology roughly. 1750. ~ 1750 oop uh er <the iudea of lots-of-understanding is weird because it is much much less than other people, but also more than different group of other people. to maybe help clarif.> <<oh uhhhh it's not lots for larger group but [we have more respons[ibility] because poor social skills. we much more easily insult associated with poor social skill. and exposure to toxicity. 1752 1752 we're trying to get up and move forward on day! the plan is to not look at this further until a bit later (need to handle dissociation around or something (maybe use a disosciated group, karl, to plan next day)). i think we might like to go have supper somewhere. here is derivation: - we want to try to cry which [~secretly] makes dissociative seizures - so we can have a supper because comforting and [moves tears-feeling closer to noninjured spaces for-example] 1753 so plan is to pack karl up and find some kind of comfort-food-supper for consciousness from neurons :) 1754 also could you message person and schedule please? :puppy-dog-neuron-eyes:? 1754 "I don't think [tT?]rump is multiple; I think he's just evil." what does this mean? [does anybody understand it?] [i think it means that care-group needs dictator-group to stop increasing genocide in order to heal them. negotation-wise.] [oh i think they are right. this makes sense. the reason is that they use caringness for power spreading. [consciousness said this [may/may not?[?]] [partially help w--[? [sorry karl still doing being-brain-work. apology. [basically the uh social engineers, do um need um people like trump to be healed. what they are saying in that translation is that, the people that could heal him/them, need to be protected. and that's confusing because the political doctrine denies the harm of the care workers. :/ somewhat in progress, and kinda severely depressing man [;s [but obviously it'll be considered forward 1759 oops we stood up but got disoriented to place and almost spent an hour wandering confusedly into city so, plan locomotion more. 1759 [also sad we dropped bar wrappers on floor likely during talk and didn't notice][some consider we may have been respected despite this others consider confirming that] karl wants to throw wrappers out so let's pack then walk to trashcan then orient [:s] [mistake. let's throw them out then return, with path plan. here go. 1800 1803 place disorienters expressed formal complain, which is filed i think (not completely certain). 1803 we are now visiting bathroom and returning (path plan). 1803 1810 some were thinking maybe we failed to hold respect for how much much severe severe suffering [these people] have been exposed to and struggled with their lives to protect and honor (roughly). [which would be expected but [needed description [1810 . 1810 [oops.] 1810 <men need to be made aware that trump-group are supporting serial rape[/murder]. of course, many other group are to. and informaiton vague.> [we don-- 1811 1811 <other thing too [basic misogyny/patriarchy 1812 1813 i wish i understoodknew ; i wish . [i hope i'm not kicked out of here for staying too late.] 1813 [some neur-- 1813 [hrm >s] (1813) [there's new information. kind of. in longer term. from today.] 1814 < this is a different kind of misogyny/patriarchy. maybe less about uh activism and women's rights, and more about uhh kind of trafficking and[ ]highly-illegal violence. 1814. 1815. 1815. 1815. . [the "<men need to be made aware" line uhhh reconsideration exists. 1817. for formal. 1817 we see the line is important. defendors can relate around not-knowing if they desire. many people supporting things in an unaware mann-- 1817 [try to -- oop 1818 we pack up some 1818 [T_T T_T T_.] [[it's funny 1819 that presenter said she was not multiple, but described childhood trauma, and elsewise described that multiple people deny it ;P [yup ;P]]] 1819 [uhh -- 1819 [y -- sorry 1819 [karl not quite involved in uh that relation um] [nope, [harmful.]] 1820. <i think, after teaching everyone about therapy for multiple people, that presenters deserve receiving this. others agree. basically, this person is _so_ empathic for multiplicity it is [pretty obvious] they have personal experience. -neuron.> 1821 [conc-- 1821 [some are worried this is an influence to stimulate multiplicity cruelly, maybe associated with very minimal content around adult-DID. it might be a little grounding to consider adult-OSDD had same-threapy as childhood-DID [i think?]?] [well the opposing group wants to fight [habit~?]][mistakes[. ] ~ 1822 [injured :S harm can happen when struggling. struggling. 1822 ty; [for understanding-opportunty]. 1822 1822 1823 [we had no idea the harm was so severe and are going to need [kind of reminder] around this [because it seems so nonintuitive [others say too shocking to easily/normally remember.]]. 1823. [more resonance/harmony around body-moving now.] 1823 {this guy so good at this that he[slash] would be incapable of; is sadly harmful derivation :(/} 1824 [it can be literally true tho [in spaces]] 1824 {but smaller spaces than. [?]} {{it is true we have habits that don't meet their reasons.}} 1825 {ohum err uh [there might be relation that could situation-improve uncertain which] } 1825 [[it is so painful to neurons that consciousness-guiders might not connect with when so so emotional. of course, logical around our harm generating such strong emotions! _but_.];] 1827 [we are going. thoughts are always. we can still go ; pls.] [please remember part of the great-tears are our mind control attempting to coopt this group.] 1827 [and yes that's inhuman for us.] 1828 [we are so sorry for karl suffering T_T so so sorry. it is so hard to uh engage-appropriate-requested.] (1829) {basically we don't know how to engage-appropriate-requested so resume behavior . 1829 a relation is kind of uh: "people are actually being tortured right now. we are here to seriously work on that." [partial] 1830 [[yeah. we are too. but harmful-alter isn't ((mistake mistake 1830 [[honestly it is apparent the umexperience. we regrettably trauma. 1831 [[[it's not that apparent humans aren't that conscious/inferring on average. the speaker gave 3-5 clear things where karl had significantly different intuition (likely due to lack of capacity-engaging exposure.). 1832 (um, capacity-engaging exposure. uhh (ok maybe i see uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh a new set of eyes, basically (yeah i think.) 1832 [t-group [kidnap-behavior [a little. 1833 {maybe less typing from -. maybe.} 1833 1834 > a relation is kind of uh: "people are actually being tortured right now. we are here to seriously work on that." > [partial] "this is something where i guess i might be [responsible for->tasked with] holding a disrespectful role." 1835 guesses mistakes/errors-proneish or -- uh. 1835 maybe change holding with to, err oops. 1835 [closing laptop now BRGL so we'll be talking in mind next using other groups [and completely different feedback channels.] 1836 completely [FROK.] [OK. FROK.] 1836 ba-ding draft recovered at 2024-03-02 0202 -0700 0402 -0500 i'll send a test email to see if i can send yet looks like i can. 2/24

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[ot][spam][crazy][draft] Mind Controlled Utopia #4.327e9
by Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many 23 Jan '26

23 Jan '26

Greeter: "Hello! We're a happy utopic community and we want to make sure everything --" Visitor: [Murders Greeter in a violent, bloody manner.] Visitor: "Oh my god." Visitor stands looking at corpse. Visitor: "Why the fuck did I do that?" Visitor watches as everybody flees for fear of their life. Visitor: "I guess I'd better start a new utopia. I seemed to have scared this one out of existence." Welcome to MCUtopia #4.327e9 ! We know in our hearts that aggression can be completely removed from the human condition if you just hug it enough. Since the world is full of war, this gives us a ton of opportunity to build utopias! You have 3 grass and 2 planks. What do you do?

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Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 20 Jan '26

20 Jan '26

> > living a mine field, a recasting of the unending mind control boss the >>> webcomic >>> >>> [some corrupt and dropped] >>> >>> day 1 >>> ahhh what a nice minefield! I'm sure this will be a beautiful new home! >>> >>> day 2 >>> omigod why did we ever move into a minefield. omigod. omigod. >>> >>> day 3 >>> some (researchers, rebels, some experimentees) are learning to very >>> carefully approach potential mines without getting injured >>> others (other experimentees, torturers, super soldier) have learned to >>> survive mine explosions >>> these different abilities give the different two groups different sets >>> of skills and powers as well as severe limitations >>> >>> day 4 >>> where the mines are changes over night. the places we think are safe >>> become mined. is the minefield alive? >>> >>> day 5 >>> we broke into random groups and made different secret survival plans. >>> only some of the groups had their planned routes mined. we think some of >>> our members might be doing the nighttime mining. >>> >>> day 6 >>> all the members of the groups that didn't have their secret routes mined >>> woke up surrounded by mines >>> >> >> day 7 >> some of the people who got used to being exploded have learned to travel >> great distances by having one explosion propel them onto other mines, which >> then explode and propel them onto further mines, which then explode and >> propel them further. this can be useful! >> however, these people no longer seem human-like >> > > [ ... day 8 dropped might come back to it later >

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M7 Series
by Alshen Feshiru 18 Dec '25

18 Dec '25

ChoLu I don't know what the MLBB team's strategy will be in the M7 Series, I hope that Indonesia will bring a champion and maybe a little request from me is not about Ban Hero or Pick Hero, If you get a chance for the First Pick and need to be banned for 3 Heroes, make sure there are 2 or typical Area Of Effect, Lifesteal, Burst heroes that you ban on the Draft Pick, Meta or not is not a key but you need to see a Patch of some heroes that experience Buffs, Nerfs and Neutrals every once in a while, After this I'll just give you a little mapping but don't trust me unless you verify it with practice or scrim or whatever you like. Hoping to read the article after this which maybe you or my esteemed Coaches and Analysts, will certainly get enough visionary flow so as not to be burdensome when trying to execute your strategy. Here's the Mapping I'm going to give: In the First Game, consider that your Team gets a second pick, try to keep the Hero Signature, there is no need to ban heroes who make it difficult for your Team's Hero Signature but from the Draft Pick you can take Hero Pick Off and Utility or those who have a long range will be better here, while if you get the First Pick at the beginning of the game, it's better to tire heroes who like to have Lifesteal, AoE, Burst and choose one or two types that need to be banned during the First Pick, of course the First Pick will be an opportunity and it's better not to let them pick heroes that are profitable in terms of Lane and Fighting... To master the Mobile Legends Map especially Tournaments, should you need to slow down the opponent's Exp and Split Push if possible, an initiator will be needed when your Mage can Flanketo attack but it should be noted that there are usually opponent Marksmen who are also ready to prey, In Summary: Because there are probably 12-15 Games and I will explain it briefly and to the point here, For the second pick, try to keep the Hero Signature if it is not on Ban or need to find a supporting skillet such as Healer or Attack speed will be needed and become a priority here, For First Pick, you should follow my strategy for the initial 3 Hero tires with some of these criteria and indeed it does not have to be according to the overall criteria in the initial 3 tires And you can synchronize several heroes that are suitable for combo and ganking. This is a concrete example if get a Second Pick in the first Game, Game 1 You can ban heroes like Yu Zhong, Gord, Zetian (Ban) The heroes that need to be picked are Pharsa, Kaja / Khufra (Mid, Roam), Claude / Lylia / Silvanna (Gold), Benedetta & Kagura (Ban), Yin / Esmeralda / Barats (Jungle), Sun / Terizla / Grock / Cici (Exp) Game 2, Phoveus, Vexana, Helcurt (Ban), Faramis, Kimmy (Roam, Mid), Fanny / Ling / Karina /Aulus (Jungle), Khufra, Brody / Lancelot, Tigreal (Ban), Badang / Ruby / Freya (Exp), Miya (Mm) Game 3, Karina, Nolan, Franco (Ban), Irithel, Belerick / Angela (Mm, Roam), Uranus / Phoveus / Cici / Aurora (Exp), Fanny, Ling / Fanny, Lesley (Ban), Popol / Kadita / Lancelot (Jungle), Luo Yi / Vale / Valentina (Mid) Game 4, Layla, Masha, Ling (Ban), Yu Zhong, Clint (Exp, Mm), Pharsa / Nana / Odette (Mid), Yin, Valentina (Ban), Gatotkaca / Diggie / Tigreal (Roam), Bane / YSS / Granger (Jungle) I only give 4 for both the second pick and the first pick Game 1, Hayabusa, Belerick, Terizla (Ban), Tigreal / Lolita (Roam), Luo Yi, Fanny / Lancelot / Alucard (Mid, Jungle), Angela, Harith / Kimmy (Ban), Yu Zhong / Cici & Beatrix / Paquito (Exp, Mm) Game 2, Lunox, Diggie, Hanzo (Ban), Kadita, Sun / Benedetta (Mid, Exp), Baxia / Aamon / Helcurt (Jungle), Franco, Belerick / Belerick, Layla (Ban), Ixia / Granger (Mm), Gloo / Edith / Mathilda (Roam) Game 3, Balmond, Granger, Tigreal (Ban), Benedetta / Lapu-Lapu / X.Borg, YSS (Exp, Jungle), Pharsa / Novaria / Zetian (Mid), Lylia, Claude / Claude, Martis / Chou, Uranus (Ban), Franco / Carmilla / Natalia / Chip (Roam), Layla / Moskov (Mm) Game 4, Novaria, Cici, Pharsa (Ban), Benedetta (Exp), Kagura, Brody (Mid, Mm), Clint, Granger / Clint, Lancelot / Obsidia, Hylos (Ban), Fanny, Tigreal / Fanny, Atlas / Fanny, Estes / Karina, Khufra (Jungle, Roam) I think it is enough to get here, to want to implement it or not it comes back to your decision. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Comment: User ID: Alshen Feshiru <alshenfeshiru(a)zohomail.com> Comment: Valid from: 06/10/2025 09:35 Comment: Valid until: 02/04/2033 12:00 Comment: Type: 448-bit EdDSA (secret key available) Comment: Usage: Signing, Encryption, Certifying User IDs Comment: Fingerprint: 5871D671C35C12147308395A464505DE1047DA134C01C8EBF8D18D6B8CBD7763 mEkFaOMrBhYAAAA/AytlcQHHbHV7SgCdlZnHrIjtxAfcYYzs9R5GGNK46dlgzFzR B+1X8BPoMimXLemj9yoBK+lfLO7OaTZ9klqAtCtBbHNoZW4gRmVzaGlydSA8YWxz aGVuZmVzaGlydUB6b2hvbWFpbC5jb20+iM0FExYKAE0iIQVYcdZxw1wSFHMIOVpG RQXeEEfaE0wByOv40Y1rjL13YwUCaOMrBgIbAwUJDhXYSgULCQgHAgIiAgYVCgkI CwIEFgIDAQIeBwIXgAAApU0Bx3DEN60mahYzDrGcFnvmZ/5UaBBQTnLoSfPwG8Hz fYt/pLE+S/yMOrbDdUrg6LG0t33bh7Pu4BxjAAHGIAca1udLBqQZ6mYwpBI6Z2S0 XVIx+glBORH6ynYgZGBZOTBarTts7UctN7D0pbBE+J4Y7w9ooDEAuEwFaOMrBhIA AABCAytlbwG/civ41G/UgMeMBiRTScXvU83nUgSPz4fma7iCz5ZVfUUP9wBuxVxd n7gODEf7mnjE8Vt8XHgOZ6kDAQoJiLIFGBYKADIiIQVYcdZxw1wSFHMIOVpGRQXe EEfaE0wByOv40Y1rjL13YwUCaOMrBgIbDAUJDhXYSgAAzGAByPZFSr2g/J57qB4r 3ISgR4+mn83R9+R2TZL7s1qnDsqjw+t6B/b28dwlVxSXgXJtAcbW2hDlzORJAAHG O8MVhPLaPra69/XvhuhZW9vOw4YXydY9aW+63KiNA6iIeZz9HczEOvT6vdWjIj8f aQN2OLDD/yUA =Gs+D -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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[less-bad] PCB Trojan Summary
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 10 Dec '25

10 Dec '25

from: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/12a5cb01-578c-4f70-942b-5a3d992b5654 biggest missing thing: mention of things from this community, such as that wiki containing endless photographs of discovered implants prompt: Look for popular and recent research, news, and discussions regarding pcb trojans and malicious counterfeits snuck into devices by 3rd parties in the supply chain. Write up some text, the first part regarding the threat of pcb trojans and occurrences where they have been found or suspected, and in the second part relate how people of different skill levels (ranging from layperson to expert researcher or hacker) can mitigate them. Including also information on political, policy, etc changes that could mitigate or worsen the situation. Keep each item brief, such that it’s somewhat like a couple lists of cited factoids, with engaging pacing. assistant: # PCB Trojans and Malicious Counterfeits: Threats, Occurrences, and Mitigation ## The Threat: Hardware Implants in Circuit Boards **Suspected Supply Chain Intrusions** The most widely discussed incident involves claims that Chinese operatives inserted rice grain-sized spy chips onto Supermicro server motherboards during manufacturing, allegedly affecting nearly 30 companies including Amazon and Apple. While Supermicro, Apple, and Amazon vehemently denied these allegations and third-party investigations found no evidence, the story highlighted a plausible attack vector that security experts acknowledge is technically feasible. The U.S. Department of Defense reportedly discovered thousands of its computers sending military network data to China due to hidden code in chips, according to the same reporting.[1][2][3][4][5] **Manufacturing-Stage Vulnerabilities** Untrusted foundries present significant risks, as malicious actors can embed tiny, undetectable circuits during fabrication. Modern PCBs feature highly integrated designs with multiple layers, hidden vias, and embedded passive components—complexity that provides ample hiding opportunities for adversaries. Filler cells can be substituted with logic gates inducing denial of service, or fuses can be disabled to create backdoors. Counterfeit components further compound the threat, as substandard or malicious parts may host malware, firmware exploits, or hardware Trojans that prove fatal in field deployment.[6][7][1] **Real-World Impact Examples** Suspect counterfeit parts have been found in military equipment including SH-60B helicopter infrared systems, memory chips in USAF C-130J and C-27J cargo planes, and ice detection modules on Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft—all traced to Chinese manufacturing plants. In Syria, a radar system allegedly failed due to a backdoor built into hardware, demonstrating how Trojans can disable critical defenses. The 2007 Syrian radar incident remains a classic example of hardware tampering enabling physical attacks.[8][1] ## Mitigation Strategies by Skill Level ### For Laypersons and Hobbyists **Visual Inspection and Documentation** Carefully examine PCBs for unexpected components, inconsistent soldering quality, or boards that appear different from reference designs. Photograph boards upon receipt to document their original state. While modern Trojans can be microscopic, some counterfeits and tampered units show visible anomalies like incorrect component markings or poor workmanship.[6] **Firmware Vigilance** Regularly update firmware from official manufacturer sources only. Attackers with physical access can modify components, making post-purchase updates crucial for addressing known exploits. Enable automatic security updates where available and verify cryptographic signatures when manually installing firmware.[6] **Trusted Sourcing** Purchase from authorized distributors or directly from manufacturers rather than third-party marketplaces. The risk of counterfeit components increases dramatically when sourcing from untrusted suppliers, as recycled or remarked parts may contain hidden modifications.[1][6] ### For Intermediate Technicians and Engineers **JTAG Boundary Scan Testing** Utilize JTAG boundary scan to verify component presence and connectivity without physical probing. This method detects component misplacement by comparing golden and test PCBs, though it requires a known-good reference board. Automated optical inspection systems can also identify text and component placement discrepancies.[9][10] **Power Side-Channel Monitoring** Implement differential power analysis to detect Trojans by observing fluctuations in power consumption on the PCB's power distribution network. A purpose-built prototype demonstrated detection of alien components without interfering with main functionality. For I/O-powered Trojans, monitor power consumption patterns from legitimate chip I/O ports using machine learning classifiers.[10][11][12] **Supply Chain Verification** Request supply chain documentation and component traceability from manufacturers. Conduct functional testing under varied conditions to verify behavior against expected outcomes. For critical applications, consider X-ray imaging to reveal hidden circuits or anomalies within multi-layer boards.[6] ### For Expert Researchers and Hardware Hackers **Machine Learning-Based Detection** Deploy One-Class Support Vector Machines or Local Outlier Factor algorithms trained on power consumption patterns to detect stealthy Trojans in real-time. Experimental results show F1-scores above 99.7% for detecting 50mW Trojans, with models validated in hard silicon. This approach enables runtime monitoring without golden models.[13][10] **Multi-Modal Side-Channel Analysis** Combine electromagnetic fingerprinting, thermal imaging, and path delay analysis to create comprehensive Trojan signatures. Magnetic side-channel spectrum models can assess detectability of various hardware Trojans, with electromagnetic fingerprints proving effective for identification. This method works even when Trojans alter existing silicon slightly rather than adding obvious components.[3][14][9] **Reverse Engineering and Formal Verification** Employ automated reverse engineering tools to extract netlists and compare against golden designs. For IP cores, use static formal verification methods like Formal-PCH, VIPR, and TRIT-PCB to detect malicious inclusions. Break Trojan activation sequences by scrambling inputs supplied to third-party IP blocks.[7][15] ## Political and Policy Developments **Strengthening Measures** The January 2025 Cybersecurity Executive Order mandates that federal agencies only acquire software from providers demonstrating secure development practices, requiring machine-readable attestations and artifacts. The Cyber Trust Mark program, reinforced by NIST SP 800-213, will exclude devices lacking security certification from federal procurement entirely. This creates powerful competitive incentives for early compliance.[16][17] The Department of Defense's latest strategy makes CMMC 2.0 Level 2 assessments mandatory by end of FY25, with AI-driven Software Fast Track (SWFT) processes for rapid risk assessment. A July 2025 DoD directive explicitly states the Department "will not procure any hardware or software susceptible to adversarial foreign influence," urging adherence to CMMC, SWFT, and Secure Software Development Framework standards.[18][19] The EU Cyber Resilience Act requires mandatory SBOMs (Software Bills of Materials) for all products containing software or firmware, enforcing secure-by-design principles from development through lifecycle support.[20] **Potential Risks and Loopholes** Global supply chain complexity continues to challenge enforcement, with about 75% of mobile phones and 90% of PCs manufactured in China, giving adversaries inherent access opportunities. Policy implementation timelines extending into 2026 create windows of vulnerability. The reliance on third-party attestations rather than direct hardware testing may allow sophisticated Trojans to evade detection, particularly if compromises occur at the CAD tool level before design completion.[17][1] **Emerging Concerns** The shift toward continuous validation and AI-driven anomaly detection introduces new attack surfaces—adversaries could potentially poison training data or exploit ML model vulnerabilities. As detection methods improve, Trojans are becoming stealthier, consuming less power and triggering only under specific conditions, making even advanced detection increasingly challenging.[11][10][13] Sources [1] Threats to ICT supply chains including Counterfeit electronic ... https://idstch.com/threats/threats-to-ict-supply-chains-including-counterfe… [2] Hardware Trojans and Supply Lines | Proceedings https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2021/april/hardware-trojans-and-… [3] Supermicro spy chips, the sequel: It really, really happened ... https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_spying/ [4] Super Micro Issues Strongest Denial yet to Bloomberg ... https://www.businessinsider.com/super-micro-issues-strongest-denial-yet-blo… [5] Years later, Bloomberg doubles down on disputed Supermicro supply chain hack story https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/years-later-bloomberg-doubles-do… [6] How Secure Are Printed Circuit Boards Against Trojan Attacks? https://sellbery.com/blog/how-secure-are-printed-circuit-boards-against-tro… [7] [PDF] The Big Hack Explained: Detection and Prevention of PCB Supply ... https://tehranipoor.ece.ufl.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2020-JETC-BigHac… [8] Hardware Trojans in Chips: A Survey for Detection and Prevention https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7570641/ [9] The Most Significant Cyberattack in History Prompts Questions ... https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/most-significant-cyberattack-in-histo… [10] PCB Hardware Trojan Run-Time Detection https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/3166747/6/PCB_Hardware_Trojan_Run-Tim… [11] Investigation into Detection of Hardware Trojans on Printed Circuit ... https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/3169204/ [12] Hardware Trojan Detection on a PCB Through Differential Power ... https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9247077/ [13] A Board-level Hardware Trojan Detection Method https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3672919.3672922 [14] [PDF] Detecting Hardware Trojans in PCBs Using Side-Channel Loopbacks https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/1877019 [15] IP Trojan Attacks - CAD for Assurance https://cadforassurance.org/trust-issues/ip-trojan-attacks/ [16] The January 2025 Cybersecurity Executive Order: What Product ... https://cybellum.com/blog/the-january-2025-cybersecurity-executive-order-wh… [17] Building the Cyber Fortress: New Cybersecurity Executive Order ... https://www.governmentcontractslaw.com/2025/06/building-the-cyber-fortress-… [18] The DoD's Latest Supply Chain Cybersecurity Strategy - DLT Solutions https://www.dlt.com/blog/2025/07/15/dod-s-latest-supply-chain-cybersecurity… [19] The Rise of SBOM Requirements In Cybersecurity Guidelines and ... https://eclypsium.com/blog/sbom-federal-requirements-guidelines/ [20] What EO 14028, EU CRA, and NIST CSF 2.0 Mean for Software ... https://www.netrise.io/xiot-security-blog/what-eo-14028-eu-cra-and-nist-csf… [21] Cybersecurity & the Supply Chain: Safeguarding PCBA Builds https://www.macrofab.com/blog/cybersecurity-supply-chain-safeguarding-pcba-… [22] [PDF] 5G Hardware Supply Chain Security Through Physical Measurements https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.1278.pdf [23] Harmful chips hidden on circuit boards revealed by their power use https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315672-harmful-chips-hidden-on-circui… [24] Detecting Imported Hardware Trojans - Northrop Grumman https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/mission-solutions/microelectroni… [25] Detecting and Protecting from Hardware Trojans - Secure-IC https://www.secure-ic.com/applications/challenges/hardware-trojans/ [26] On malicious implants in PCBs throughout the supply chain https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167926021000304 [27] Hardware Trojan Detection and Mitigation: Ensuring Supply Chain ... https://www.logicclutch.com/blog/hardware-trojan-detection-mitigation [28] PRISTINE: An Emulation Platform for PCB-Level Hardware Trojans https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10487955 [29] [PDF] A Security Architect's View of Printed Circuit Board Attacks - USENIX https://www.usenix.org/system/files/usenixsecurity25-harrison.pdf [30] Hardware Trojans: Lessons Learned after One Decade of Research https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2906147 [31] Hardware Trojans or the threat of malicious circuits - Secure-IC https://www.secure-ic.com/blog/hardware-trojans/hardware-trojans/ [32] [PDF] On malicious implants in PCBs throughout the supply chain https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/am/pii/S0167926021000304 [33] Supermicro Refutes Claims in Bloomberg Article https://www.supermicro.com/en/pressreleases/supermicro-refutes-claims-bloom… [34] Supermicro Refutes Claims in Bloomberg Article https://www.supermicro.com/th/pressreleases/supermicro-refutes-claims-bloom… [35] China Used a Tiny Chip in a Hack That Infiltrated U.S. Companies https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-u… [36] Protecting Against National Security Threats to the Communications ... https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/12/04/2025-21928/protecting-… [37] Bloomberg's Supermicro Follow-Up: Still No Chip https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blogs/bloombergs-supermicro-redux-still-no… [38] [PDF] Cybersecurity Supply Chain Risk Management (C-SCRM) - 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28836 and verify again
by Alshen Feshiru 06 Dec '25

06 Dec '25

Maybe you or anyone on this mailing list is bored with or about Syamailcoin but in terms of the components of the Mathematics codes have been realized 89% and the port has been applied, the port used or implemented is 28836 and I am in need of funds to be 100% realized I need funds to connect Blocks with Electric Current both in Mathematical Code and Entropy with the help of physical cryptographic tools, any Node does not have access to Genesis Balance. Let me briefly tell you that Syamailcoin has 9469999.99999999428 Max Supply and 9234705.99999999428 Remaining Supply and the way of distributing rewards with the Inevitability Stage is that we cannot get rewards beyond the limited amount of the Stage unless the current Stage has been completed. Additional Notes, vocabulary such as Mining in the concept of Syamailcoin is called Delting and Miner is no longer called Miner but Delter but as a familiar term it actually makes it easier for anyone to know it, if the majority of Delter/Miner choose to continue Mining then anyone can participate to complete Combination Mathematics and get a reward and if the majority choose to pause then anyone in the entire Universe will never be able to mine until the specified time.

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Need $47 -- Port 28836
by Alshen Feshiru 04 Dec '25

04 Dec '25

Maybe you or anyone on this mailing list is bored with or about Syamailcoin but in terms of the components of the Mathematics codes have been realized 89% and the port has been applied, the port used or implemented is 28836 and I am in need of funds to be 100% realized I need funds to connect Blocks with Electric Current both in Mathematical Code and Entropy with the help of physical cryptographic tools, any Node does not have access to Genesis Balance. Let me briefly tell you that Syamailcoin has 9469999.99999999428 Max Supply and 9234705.99999999428 Remaining Supply and the way of distributing rewards with the Inevitability Stage is that we cannot get rewards beyond the limited amount of the Stage unless the current Stage has been completed. Additional Notes, vocabulary such as Mining in the concept of Syamailcoin is called Delting and Miner is no longer called Miner but Delter but as a familiar term it actually makes it easier for anyone to know it, if the majority of Delter/Miner choose to continue Mining then anyone can participate to complete Combination Mathematics and get a reward and if the majority choose to pause then anyone in the entire Universe will never be able to mine until the specified time.

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