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Re: Cypherpunk list subscriber "threatening" Feds
by professor rat 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

Thanks Greg Its probably a Google issue as I was able to find it that way for a while but their service has deteriorated recently. Enclosed copy Denver Post Online threats target Denver investigators - Anarchist says e-mails harmless; feds disagree By Jim Hughes - Denver Post Staff Writer Monday, July 07, 2003 - An anarchist using the online moniker “Professor Rat” has threatened the lives of two federal terrorism investigators in Denver, advocating that they “need killing.” The threats name an FBI agent assigned to the local multiagency Joint Terrorism Task Force and the government’s lead prosecutor of terrorism cases in Colorado. Although those who travel in the same online circles as Professor Rat say his provocations are not to be taken seriously, officials say they are concerned about the threats, which were sent to an e-mail listserv and posted on the Internet in April. “The recipients of the threats have no way to discern their validity,” said Jeff Dorschner, spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office. "They cause fear and they disrupt lives, and it’s for that reason that they’re taken very seriously. “It’s more than the individual targets. It’s the families and those associated with them,” he said. That is the purpose of the postings, an Australian man who admits to using the Professor Rat name and to posting these kinds of threats saidin a telephone interview and a series of e-mails: To scare people out of working for the government. He refused to admit to any specific threat, to avoid prosecution, he said. He already is charged with making similar threats against police in Australia, according to the Victoria Police in Melbourne. Saying that his real name was Matt Taylor and that he was 48 years old, Professor Rat said he promotes a theory called Assassination Politics that emerged at the periphery of cyberanarchist circles in 1997. The concept is that of an online lottery in which people bet on a date that public figures will die. The implication is that the lottery “winner” likely helped arrange the death. Winnings would be paid in untraceable digital cash, which does not yet exist. The development of digital money, and encryption software restricting government’s ability to monitor Internet activity, are common goals among the online anarchists and libertarians known as “cypherpunks.” The ultimate purpose of Assassination Politics is to deter people from working for government agencies, corporate media outlets or institutions “beholden to the violence of the state,” Taylor said. Professor Rat also has threatened a University of Ottawa law professor, a columnist for The Boston Globe and a Cincinnati police officer. Many of those threats were posted to a listserv called Cypherpunks. The e-mail distribution network allows libertarians and anarchists interested in the tension between government oversight and individual liberty on the Internet to discuss those issues via e-mails that when sent to the listserv are distributed to all members. Dorschner would not say whether there was an investigation into Professor Rat, calling the matter an issue of “internal security.” The columnist for The Boston Globe, whose sin, in the eyes of Professor Rat, was to criticize civil libertarians for objecting to the Patriot Act of 2001, said he did not take the threat at all seriously. He learned of the threat only last week, when told of it by The Denver Post, he said. The Post is withholding the names of the subjects of posts by Professor Rat to avoid promoting any specific threats. “The way I see it, this kind of talk is pretty cheap on the Internet,” the columnist said. “This is something I would consider casual hate speech. This person didn’t send me an e-mail saying 'I’m going to kill you.”’ But officials in Denver see nothing casual about the statements, Dorschner said. In an interview, Taylor taunted the Denver officials named in the April 8 statement. “They’re welcome to come and get me extradited,” he said. “Here I am. Come and get me.” The Cypherpunks listserv is also where Jim Bell, an MIT-trained chemist and Washington anarchist who now is in prison for interstate stalking of federal agents, unveiled his Assassination Politics. He was convicted in 2001. Federal prosecutors in Seattle that year also won a conviction against Carl Johnson, a Canadian man accused of threatening federal judges and Microsoft founder Bill Gates by e-mail. Later in 2001, Thomas Wales, a federal prosecutor in Seattle, was shot to death. Though his death was noted on the Cypherpunks listserv, no connection to Assassination Politics has ever been made. The case remains unsolved. John Hartingh, spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Seattle, declined to comment on Wales’ death. Taylor said his threats are intended solely as a rhetorical deterrent. “No one has to die,” he said. “All that has to happen is for people to accept the system.” If anyone Taylor threatened ever was assassinated, “I would totally reassess my involvement in it,” he said. “It would totally change the whole situation. Basically, I’m a nonviolent person.” The posts made by Professor Rat fall under a relatively new category of crime known as “cyberstalking,” said Jim Doyle, a retired New York City police sergeant who now works as a cybercrimes consultant for a Connecticut company called Internet Crimes. The statements made by Professor Rat constitute prosecutable offenses, he said. “The bottom line is what the victim feels,” he said. “Is the victim threatened? Is the victim alarmed? Hey, that’s a crime.” Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the University of California-Los Angeles and a First Amendment specialist, said the threats were probably criminal, given Taylor’s description of the purpose of Assassination Politics. But “in order to (prosecute), you have to get your hands on the guy,” he said. Most current Cypherpunks subscribers have set up their e-mail in-boxes to block any messages coming from Taylor, said Declan McCullagh, a reporter for the high-tech website CNET.com. He has subscribed to Cypherpunks for 10 years, he said. Taylor exists on the “radical fringe” of online anarchists, McCullagh said. “He’s routinely ignored and ‘kill-filed’ by just about everyone on the list. I’d be surprised if more than a small handful of people are reading his postings, let alone taking him seriously.” Taylor acknowledged that he does not not have much support in anarchist circles. “Most anarchists see what I’m doing as counterproductive. … I’m not exactly at the center of anarchism by promoting Assassination Politics, that’s for sure.” R. A. Hettinga ( email obscured ) The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA “… however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience.” – Edward Gibbon, ‘Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’

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Cypherpunk list subscriber "threatening" Feds
by professor rat 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

>>> It's familiar to see you posting this quote again. I'm curious, why do you post it? <<< It serves a number of purposes - for example 1) Give lie to Mongo's Crypto Winter and further isolates the c-punk circle of eunuchs that includes Adam, Back and Julian Assmange, to name just two. 2) Shows all USG agents we were gunning for them before 9-11 and will maintain our campaign till they surrender or die. 3) Is timely due to all the recent calls to abolish the FBI - a quick search will reveal many recent links. Abolishing the FBI is a huge historical advance and indicator of USG weakness and crypto-anarchist strength. Do you still have the link to the article? The Post no longer publishes it and the Hettinga repost has gone missing ( Greg? ) I don't link to Conde Nast's edited version at McCullagh's since he went over to the enemy in 2001. I can publish the entire article here if desired or alternatively direct the curious to my insane journal back-up at ' buttdarling ' . https://buttdarling.insanejournal.com/129512.html?mode=reply That's a copy of the missing cypherpunks post from Hett. Now since when have you ever taken a positive interest in the core affairs of this list? You waddle like an agent and quack like one we might as well shoot you in agent-shooting season. Get a life agent Semich.

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Professor targets Monsanto
by professor rat 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

2001 a netspace odyssey - Odysseus-like professor targets Monsanto as capitalism red-in-tooth-and-claw Proffr says he's waging a global campaign against capitalism, particularly corporations like Monsanto, and police brutality: "I'm not a personally violent person. But I'm advocating violence, mostly for effect. (An attack) on the environment requires a measured response. That's my measured response. It's not everyone's." https://www.wired.com/2001/05/online-cincy-cop-threats-probed/ SDonziger BREAKING: Monsanto just lost a massive $82 million case in Seattle after a jury found it poisoned teachers and children in school. Monsanto has now lost 5 of 6 trials on same issue and owes close to $1 billion. Why corporations hate juries. https://law.com/2022/12/20/seattle-jury-hits-monsanto-with-82m-verdict-in-l…

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Cryptocurrency: Trojan For Fredom - Just Getting Started...
by grarpamp 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

https://londonreal.tv/alex-gladstein-bitcoin-obliterates-financial-privileg… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3msH7nSp0I Trojan Documentary https://www.facebook.com/Reason.Magazine/videos/is-blockchain-technology-a-…

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World War Z
by professor rat 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

A New Dawn in the Middle East Biden announced: We have completed the development of a new rejuvenation technique, where was can now raise Defense Engagement Assets on Demand, also known as The DEAD. These recently resurrected will form a new Army, the 666th Zombie Group, which will be focused on the Middle East. With this new capability, none of our precious youth need be risked in actual battle. We can use them to fly drones from the safety of their US Bases, and the actual boots on the Ground will be the walking dead. With this new approach, we have eliminated the costs of Medical Evacuations, Medics in the Field, all the medical facilities of the VA, and eliminating active service pay to Zombie troops because they can eat what they kill, so saving billions of tax dollars. And if Zombies get wounded in battle, we don’t have to pay them a pension. Resurrecting old warriors is economical to a fault. Support the troops - remember the DEAD - what you call Hell - they call Home.

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Independence Day
by professor rat 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

Free at last - Think not that I come to send peace for I bring only the sword. Backstabber has left the building! I saw his thoughts made manifest. I saw what his henchmen were planning to do. They're like locusts. They're moving from planet to planet... their whole civilization. After they've consumed every natural resource they move on... and we're next. Nuke 'em I say. Let's nuke the bastards. The only mistake I ever made was to appoint a sniveling little weasel like you punk Secretary of Defense. However, that is a mistake, I am happy to say, that I don't have to live with. John; you're fired. In less than an hour, fighter aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And they will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind against the remaining Marxist states. " Transhumans" That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the 25th of December, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom... Not just from tyranny, oppression, or persecution... but from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, this day will no longer be known as an annual holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the red night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our anarchist independence Day!

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M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S
by Gunnar Larson 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

So grateful for this cypherpunks list and all of you. Merry Christmas. Gunnar

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Where cypherpunks are called terrorists
by professor rat 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

From: Mike Huben To: professor rat Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:51 PM Subject: Re: query On Aug 3, 2013, at 3:51 AM, professor rat wrote: > Dear Mike > I've linked to your site for a decade or more now and regularly too, so thanks for that! My pleasure! > Now I have a question. > > If the government ( lets say the USG) were to be ever forced to operate secretly how long do you think it might last? No clue. It wouldn't long remain as it does now: the checks and balances rely on openness. Still, it might last a long time: modern technology can enforce enslavement very well. > This query arises out of the ' Freedom through technology ' section, specifically ' Assassination Politics ' > > Assassination Politics > Convicted tax evader Jim Bell proposes a system of anonymous ecash awards for the murder of "aggressors", such as IRS agents. See also Crypto-Convict Won't Recant. What he misses is that his system, if tolerated, would merely force government to operate secretly rather than openly. > > Also ' if tolerated'. Since you wrote this years ago, I've noticed things like Bitcoin, Silk Road, distributed defence, MEGA and so on arise. Some of them are suffering regulation attempts but some , its seems, have to be tolerated. Thoughts? The weak points of all these ideas are where they interface to the real world. That's where the NSA or other agencies can nail them. You may notice the terrorism cooperation of the Russians with the US over the Boston bombers: no country wants to be the refuge of terrorism. It's too obnoxious for other nations to bear. Even Iran has not been encouraging it. So there will not really be any international refuge for terrorists. We executed (by drone) that American who was generating Al Qaeda terrorist propaganda. The vast majority of people know which side their bread is buttered on. They like their welfare states. They like government social insurance because they are not interested in gambling their health, wealth, security from violence, and retirement benefits. They will pretty much all come together to oppose terrorism. Mike Huben http://web.archive.org/web/20130805223838/http://blurty.com/users/buttdarli… Reposts another country where they do things covertly there

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Wikileaks is dead - long live sealand
by professor rat 24 Dec '22

24 Dec '22

Wikileaks is dead - long live sealand We don' need no steenkin' half hearted revolutions. We need a space where we can save music, porn and stolen classified documents and whatever the fuck else we want to store and use. Plans for WMDs for example. A sealand such as was discussed on the Cpunks list long ago - only a sealand in virtual space. Seth F spoke of something like a cloud set up back then. The means now exist to beef up Freenet and build on that. JA is going in exactly the wrong direction when he moves away from Bells theorem. He's writing his own suicide note actually and that probably why he gravitated to Sweden. It was either Sweden or Japan for this Blofeld and his garden. Sayonara Julian. http://web.archive.org/web/20101213040150/http://blurty.com/users/buttdarli… Reposts nor 12 year old mummified corpse-media plays

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Cypherpunk failures agree
by professor rat 24 Dec '22

24 Dec '22

In this case Mongo and Vinay Gupta. Mongo's fork-in-the-road thesis from the 90's . . . " . . . If anonymity is outlawed, it will take draconian measures to enforce it–citizen-unit ID cards, officially issued encryption keys, escrow, monitoring of communications, massive penalties to deter illegal use of encryption, and other police state measures. On the other hand, if enough degrees of freedom are left untouched, the result is a growing, expanding crypto anarchy. Government will find itself powerless to control commerce (handled via encrypted channels), will find it doesn’t know the True Names of various Net entities, and will end up being chased into an enclave of things it can control. . . . " He reiterated this just before he died in 2018 as ' the dossier society ' dystopia Vs his usual Galts Gulch garbage. " Natural Rights anarchy ". And here is Gupta from 2015 . . . " . . . Gupta gave his view on why the cypherpunk movement succeeded in creating many tools for more secure and private computing, but failed in achieving broad adoption and societal change . . . " https://buttdarling.insanejournal.com/2015/11/16/ Contra these two losers my assessment by 2011 was we had enough adoption and change to declare victory. And we have only gotten much stronger since then while the powers-that-be have all gotten weaker. My thesis is the net has globalized since 2005 ( its non anglo-centric in other words ) and could take on and defeat all the earthly powers COMBINED since 2010. I can't account for any black swan event happening between now and the predicted singularity due between 2030 - 2040. But that's my considered opinion based on the best evidence available to me. And why I've been demanding a formal surrender of the USG to the anarchic net every year for the last 12 years. All they have to do is free ALL drug war prisoners ( state and federal ) then bring back the 2003 PAM FutureMaps prediction mart that may then handle its defeat in detail. The rest of the world seeing the worlds most powerful state get chased into an enclave should draw the appropriate conclusion. Surrender early - surrender often - surrender abjectly while begging for mercy. There will then follow two Friedman Units where we will settle all outstanding accounts with local bullies and bad gentry. With your help all this might be accomplished by CYPHERPUNK 2027 and we may then bring on the singularity early. Please don't try and hinder us though - we can already make a horrible example out of anyone. Amirite worlds richest and most powerful men? Cypherpunk traitors like Assmange, Back and so on will get everything that's coming to them. The revolution may not be televised but it will certainly be streamed live to the web. Welcome to the revolution.

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