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Putin: "Big problem - Hillary knows!" - [PEACE] [COMEDY]
by Zenaan Harkness 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

Well well well, an absolutely UNredacted Trump-Putin telephone transcript. In non Soviet Russia, phone transcribe you! On problem below, subject line postulate with "If". What If Hillary Clinton Was Right... https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-if-hillary-clinton-was-right https://www.libertynation.com/hillary-clinton-was-right-a-satire/ The following is a transcript of what Russian President Vladimir Putin recently told President Donald Trump during a phone call. This transcript was provided by an anonymous Russian – possibly the same one from whom Rep. Adam Schiff tried to get compromising photos of Trump. Unlike Schiff, we have not doctored this transcript. Vladimir Putin: “Hello, Trump, this is Vladimir. Hah! Funny man. Vladimir Putin, president of Russia. Listen, we need to have serious talk. We had agreement. You tell me you cooperate if I help you win election in 2016. What’s this make American great again sh*t? I thought that was joke. You start playing with the ball or I’m going to replace you next year with Tulsi Gabbard. “Yes, Donald, I know, but you are not helpful. Not like Obama. When I rigged his election against … what’s his name? That big, stupid Mormon? Romney, yes, Romney. When I helped Obama he promised to be flexible. Yes, he was very flexible – I got everything I wanted. He was, how you say, pushover. I hoped you would be like him, only more white, of course. “You make America strongest country in world, now. You increase energy production – that’s not good for me. You give aid to the sniveling Ukrainian dogs. You do nothing for Russia. No, that’s not funny, I tell you funny Soviet joke: What do you do with peasant who steal sack of potatoes? Send him to gulag for three winters. Hmm, perhaps it lose something in translation – in Russian, is very funny. Of course, as we used to say in KGB: In Soviet Russia, joke laughs at you. “So, listen carefully, Trump. You start helping me or Tulsi gets your job. Yes, she secret Russian asset but we have problem. Clinton knows. Yes, she knows – I read it on the News Fox and the Washington Examination. I don’t know how she knows. Probably those Ukrainian sh*ts told her – you know, the same ones who try to help her win election. “Clinton is stupid woman, though. She think I groom Tulsi to help you win next year. No, I groom her to take your place. Why? Because she better looking than you and also because I am, how you say, woke: I think it’s time to have woman Russian agent running America. I’ve had black Russian agent, orange Russian agent, and now it’s time for woman Russian agent. “Yes, it is very funny that everyone Russian agent except that crazy old communist, Bernie – and he’s the only one who wants to be Russian agent! That is right: Clinton also know that Jill Stein is Russian agent. Clinton think everyone Russian agent – it’s the only thing she has ever been right about. But she think I set up Gabbard for the third-party campaign to help you win. No, she is not smart. When you read as many of her emails as I do, that becomes clear. “What about this third party thing, anyway? You Americans have too many parties. You should have only one, like here in Russia. Your Democratic Party – that is funny name, by the way – your Democratic Party may be fools, but they understand benefit of having only one party. “Yes, I have the dirt on all other candidates. By January, Gabbard will be ready to take nomination and then you get in the line or you lose, understand? “OK, Donald, you know what you have to do or it’s Tulsi time – like the famous American country song. OK, I must go now, I have Biden on the other line. He wants his son to be next head of Russian army.” In non Soviet Russia, you have been, how we say?, line punched.

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In Surprise Move, Pope Francis Shills For Renewed Connection With God
by Zig the N.g 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

In a surprise move today, the beloved [by Juan] Pope Francis made an international call for renewed devotion to God and prayer to Christ. The Pope has repeatedly ... hey wait, it looks like there's a new sin, literary: Pope Francis The Taxman https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pope-francis-taxman https://antoniusaquinas.com/2020/02/18/pope-francis-the-taxman/ On the heels of calling for a Marxist economic conference this coming March (“Economy of Francesco”), Jorge Bergoglio (a.k.a. “Pope Francis”) has once again opined on financial matters. The purported head of the Catholic Church has now designated “tax cuts” as sinful behavior on a par, apparently, with stealing, lying, and adultery: Today’s structures of sin include repeated tax cuts for the richest people, often justified in the name of investment and development. Bergoglio did not mention what category of sin advocacy for tax cuts falls under – venial or mortal. Maybe the details of how such a policy ranks in offending Divine Justice will be hammered out at the upcoming Economy of Francesco Commie confab! In Bergoglio’s collectivist mind, those who try and keep their wealth from the ravenous demands of the State are somehow denying the poor their just due: Every year hundreds of billions of dollars, which should be paid in taxes to fund health care and education, accumulate in tax haven accounts, thus impeding the possibility of the dignified and sustained development of all social agents. ... Glad we cleared that up. Ahem ... in a surprise move today, the beloved [by Juan] Pope Francis made an international declaration that repeated tax cuts for the rich is a sin, either mortal or venal (as yet undetermined - Not Sure (TM)(C)(R)). This literal papal declaration is considered by many as an indirect declaration of support for Bernie Sanders' presidency run. Undisclosed sources from the Vatican assured Bernie campaign staffers that Indulgences may be sold until the conclusion of the primaries, with all proceeds going to the Bernie campaign.

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on the pain rebuilding US industry - MishTalk snowflake decries lack of USA industrial steel production "instant rebuild/restart"
by Zig the N.g 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

An important virtue today is to demonstrate virtuosity by ceaselessly complaining about the lack of instant gratification, because complaints and whining are the only way that a solid national or community foundation is built. Some snowflakes, such as Mike Shedlock (is that even a real name? sounds suspicious) of MishTalk, seem to think that rebuilding a national (say, steel) industry the size North America needs, should take no more than a year, two years tops, and a few import tarriffs. You see, snowflakes can't handle even the smallest sacrifice, shared responsibility, or long term planning - such concepts are anathema to the snowflake who melts to the cryptonite of even the smallest delay to instant gratification. Make American Steel Great Again Backfires In Trump Lawsuit https://www.zerohedge.com/political/make-american-steel-great-again-backfir… https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/make-american-steel-great-again-ba… ... Trump's Tariffs Backfire Trump had a plan to Make America Steel Great Again. ... Classic, pathetic snowflakery! "Oh gee, in 18 months we didn't get (FAILED!) multi grades bulk steel slab industrial production -competition- started just yet, let's immediately give up on rebuilding USA steel industry!" Carry on, Mish, carry on like the snowflake you are..

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Coronavirus China: Man doesn’t show symptoms for 27 days
by jim bell 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/scary-development-in-virus-spread-that-c…

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AI: Hutter Prize for Compressing Human Knowledge 1G to 115M = €500k
by grarpamp 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

http://prize.hutter1.net/ Hutter Prize for Compressing Human Knowledge This compression contest is motivated by the fact that being able to compress well is closely related to acting intelligently, thus reducing the slippery concept of intelligence to hard file size numbers. In order to compress data, one has to find regularities in them, which is intrinsically difficult (many researchers live from analyzing data and finding compact models). So compressors beating the current "dumb" compressors need to be smart(er). Since the prize wants to stimulate developing "universally" smart compressors, we need a "universal" corpus of data. Arguably the online encyclopedia Wikipedia is a good snapshot of the Human World Knowledge. So the ultimate compressor of it should "understand" all human knowledge, i.e. be really smart. enwik9 is a hopefully representative 1GB extract from Wikipedia.

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1995 Cypherpunks Archive is discovered to have been heavily forged.
by jim bell 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

That's exactly it. I found this out a couple of weeks ago, and there has been a discussion on the Cypherpunks list for the subsequent time. About 5 months of emails have completely disappeared, Feb 14 to July 11, 1995. But from July 11 to the end of December 1995, virtually all emails with the following strings have also disappeared""jim bell", "jimbell(a)pacifier.com", " ap ", and "assassination politics". Since you were a subscriber to the Cypherpunks list in 1995 and 1996 (and possibly later as well) you probably remember what it looked like. Your assistance on the CP list is needed. Jim Bell

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Re: [tor-talk] How secure is a hidden service?
by grarpamp 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

Tor Project sometimes censor and manage speech on its mailing lists from some various facts, alternative points of view, free and open convo, news journalist articles, inquiry, critique of Tor Project itself, etc... perhaps some of the links below may be of interest or merit, or even be nothing but utter nonsense indeed... decide as desired. Busts often have press releases, case docs, and community threads that can be read for info on, and suspicious gaps in stories of, how onions were found. Also look for cases that got dismissed, things can appear strange in them too. http://dreadditevelidot.onion/post/f7f0b5bc445630301df6 https://www.gwern.net/docs/sr/2020-flugsvamp-docs-FUP_B_13010-18.tar.xz Some of the public research and exploit whitepapers against hidden services are listed here... https://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/ Here are some articles, blogs, threads, links to links, and so forth that may have other papers and info of interest... https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/ http://darknetq7skv7hgo.onion/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/7lt954/ddos_related_deanonymization_t… https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/categories/19-Tor https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/19794 https://old.reddit.com/r/onions+tor/ https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-February/079289.html https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-November/077834.html https://www.gwern.net/DNM-arrests https://www.gwern.net/DNM-survival https://surveillancevalley.com/blog/fact-checking-the-tor-projects-governme… These two messages were replied directly to the Tor Project mailing lists, both were censored by the Tor Project and thus never appeared there for users to consider and or talk about... https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-February/079419.html https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-February/079417.html How hidden are the hidden services of any of today's overlay networks? One answer is as old as humanity... Perhaps that depends on how badly they want to find you. On 2/22/20, Robin Lee <robinlee(a)mailbox.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2020-02-21 at 05:41 -0500, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 07:25:32AM +0100, Robin Lee wrote: >> > I'm wondering how hidden a hidden service actually is? Because last >> > week charges were brought against Flugsvamp, a Swedish darknet drug >> > shop. In the documents made public for the court case the police >> > states >> > that is was able to trace the actual ip-addresses of the onion- >> > addresses. Flugsvamp had two onion-addresses and the the police >> > gave >> > different probabilities that a certain ip-address was behind each. >> > >> > Is it just a function of time and amount of traffic, i.e. the >> > longer >> > you are online and the more traffic you generate, the more probable >> > it >> > is to discover the true ip-address? >> >> It's complicated. >> >> I should start out with saying I'd never heard of Flugsvamp until >> your >> email, and I have no notion of whether they used Tor or what. That >> said: >> >> Services on the internet are inherently harder to make safe than >> clients, >> (a) because they stay at the same place for long periods of time, and >> (b) because the attacker can induce them to generate or receive >> traffic, >> in a way that's harder to reliably do to clients. >> >> Most identification problems with Tor users, and with onion services, >> have turned out to be opsec mistakes, or flaws in the application >> software at one end or the other. That is, nothing to do with the Tor >> protocol at all. But of course in the "layers of conspiracy" world we >> live in nowadays, you can never be quite sure, because maybe "they" >> used a complex attack on Tor and then covered it up by pointing to an >> opsec flaw. One hopefully productive way forward is to point out that >> even if we don't know how every successful attack really started, we >> know that opsec flaws are sufficient to explain most of them. >> >> When I'm doing talks about Tor these days, I list these four areas >> of concern, ordered by how useful or usable they are to attackers in >> practice: (1) Opsec mistakes, (2) Browser metadata fingerprints / >> proxy >> bypass bugs, (3) Browser / webserver exploits, and (4) Traffic >> analysis. >> >> See e.g. the original story about Farmer's Market: >> https://blog.torproject.org/trip-report-october-fbi-conference >> where at first people worried about a vulnerability in Tor, but then >> it >> turned out that the operators had been identified and located far >> before >> they even switched to using Tor. >> >> To make this thread more productive and more concrete: can you point >> us >> to these "documents made public for the court case"? Even if they're >> in >> Svenska, they would still be useful to look at. The ones talking >> about >> probabilities of IP address I mean. > > These documents are available at > https://minfil.com/bbu3q0Y4ne/FUP_B_13010-18_zip > > Page 103 in the file 'Stockholms TR B 13010-18 Aktbil 202.pdf' contains > a short PM about the tracing. > > It is a vast set of documents, but as far I've been able to tell > identifying the VPS-servers behind the onion-addresses was the first > step. > > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >

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Cloudflare Tor Mozilla via StopMITMInternational
by grarpamp 23 Feb '20

23 Feb '20

Convo on Cloudflare Tor Mozilla via StopMITMInternational https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/1743

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Russia poised to (literally) invade "irresistible prize" Ireland - Center for Security Policy (DC think w^Ctank)
by Zig the N.g 22 Feb '20

22 Feb '20

Literally. Invade. Ireland. Russia. Invade Ireland. I guess it's a prize country in war - potatoes for ya food lines. "Bloody Russkies INVADING Ireland!- man the hatches and 20,000 fathoms IMMEDIATELY ya skurvy dogs!" [link to Yandex image search for "scurvy russian sailor meme" DEFINITELY not included :D -- ye olde election meddling search engine appears to have replaced "scurvy" with "curvy"] Russia isn’t just mapping Ireland’s internet cables – it’s planning to INVADE, foams Cold-War-revivalist DC think tank https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481326-russia-invading-ireland-internet-communicat… https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2020/02/20/russia-ireland-nato/ Russia is poised to invade Ireland and seize control of global communications, according to a crew of Cold War relics and professional Russophobes who’ve taken an already absurd James Bond-esque story and doubled down on it. Ireland’s status as “a vital telecommunications and logistics hub linking North America and Europe” has made it an irresistible prize to “the Putin regime,” according to a bizarre paper published on Wednesday by the Center for Security Policy, a right-wing think tank. Russia isn’t just lusting after Ireland’s burgeoning crop of tech firms, or its forest of undersea communications cables, the group argues – it’s actively plotting to invade the Emerald Isle. Can’t emphasize how ludicrous and insane this is. And it’s all inspired by sensationalist disinformation pushed by British newspaper ‘The Sunday Times’ last weekend. I debunked that bullsh*t story here. https://t.co/ZH7JEcyIVC — Bryan MacDonald (@27khv) February 20, 2020 The unhinged plot apparently derives from a story published last weekend in the Irish Times, which warned – citing the usual anonymous sources in the Garda and the military – that Russian spies were observed last year mapping out the precise location of the transatlantic ocean-bed cables that form the backbone of global communications in preparation for “future tapping or even damage.” While that gripping saga could be deflated with a quick look at one of Ireland’s own government websites, which posts the exact latitude and longitude of those cables for all to see, it clearly lit a fire under the senescent Cold War hawks at the CSP. ...

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Re: [tor-talk] How secure is a hidden service?
by grarpamp 21 Feb '20

21 Feb '20

On 2/20/20, Robin Lee <robinlee(a)mailbox.org> wrote: > I'm wondering how hidden a hidden service actually is? > ... > Is it just a function of time and amount of traffic, i.e. the longer > you are online and the more traffic you generate, the more probable it > is to discover the true ip-address? Time and traffic are elements of some known research exploits. One form of general answer might also be... Given the number of proven research exploits against such services in the public literature, and the presumed attention to high security that at least some of the fallen services must have given, it's probably worth assuming that... - Public research exploits are being used in the wild. - Private research exploits do exist and are being used in the wild. - Adversaries using such public exploits, and most assuredly such private ones, are unwilling to let those respective facts of advantage become known, particularly when parallel construction and various [il]legal processes around the world effectively allow those trump cards to remain secret, thus not triggering defensive moves and arms races to their disadvantage. This isn't specific to tor, it's the nature of the entire netsec game, the history of such games showing that many such preposterous ideas not always as far fetched as their prior critiques presumed. While searching the web for the exploit papers is easy, the difficulty comes in showing the actual usage of any exploit. There's probably a wide range of honorary awards and nice paychecks available to whoever breaks any big news or research regarding the topic. And certainly many thanks from rights workers, journalists, etc whose very lives and work depend on it.

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