August 2016 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

FM Corporations/ businesses/ entitities
by Zenaan Harkness 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 09:45:40PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:43:12 +0300 > Georgi Guninski <guninski(a)guninski.com> wrote: > > Anyway, I meant that in a free market (FM), you will still have > > corporations (possibly under more politically correct term like FM > > corporation). > > 'corporations' are a legal fiction created by the state, so no. When > 1 humans associate for the purposes of shared economic activity/ incentive in what we may as well term "business", it is in their interests to face the world as a named entity. I think this is Georgi's point - in a FM we are free to associate with one another as we so choose. So in Georgi's case here, FM corporation ~= business ~= economic activity association And of course, where there is no government, there shall be no "corporations" as created by governments. Any group calling themselves a "corporation" would have a meaning different from the current meaning, thus "FM corporation". This leads to perhaps an interesting question: Today there are many businesses, companies, corporations etc. which entities represent their owners (possibly in the form of share holders) and controllers (possibly just the owners, and/ or part owners, or the directors/ managers employed to control certains aspects of the business). Share holders/ owners can include other entities - trusts, hedge funds, pension funds etc. These entity owners have actual interests - economic interests, and any other contractable/ name-able interest which might be written, but may not be written, including for example: - simple economic interests - share dividends, perceived future share price for future sale etc - maturity of an estate, vesting from the estate holder to the named beneficiaries in a will - power and control structures as manifested by the CIA, FBI, NSA, North American BISMIC (banking intelligence surveillance/ spying military industrial control complex) Contracts (explicit/ implied) - entities - interests (or rather "beneficiaries"). (Of course some interests would not be considered "lawful" or acceptable to an average direct democracy/ anarchic voter (assuming that particular interest were up for a vote) for example.) THE QUESTION: The question I think always shall be, is how to transition to an anarchic society, in consideration of existing interests. I.e. how to peacefully transition existing entities/ structure/ interests into an anarchistic/ truly free market reality. I am implying evolution. Revolution - we see how well that went after the fall of the Tzar, to the various CIA instigated revolutionary coups from Lybia to Syria, Ukraine to Yugoslavia, none of which resulted in nor were intended to result in an actualisation of an anarchistic society. The problem with revolution, is that it is ideological extremists who give enough of a shit to pick up a gun and start shooting (for example) police, citizens and government officials, and the outcome is that the ideological extremists end up holding the seats of power and institute something -other- than anarchism. Such extremists as our world's history have seen, tend to sociopathy, rather than the benevolent, side of dictatorship. We must always remember it is never the arm chair pundit ("oh I wish our democracy elected representatives actually represented us") crowd who will change the world. So historically, revolutions seem to be more a devolution than an evolution of the status quo. If you have counter examples, please highlight them now. So it is that I hold far greater hope for a better/ anarchistic/ direct democracy type of future, via the pathway of evolution, and not revolution. And so it is also that we owe it to our future generations to consider pathways to peaceful transition of existing interests, into that better future.

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[RUS] [MONEY] Fw: Your guide to some bullshit - was Re: Your Guide to the Operational Launch of the NWO in 2016 (Update 3.1 - Putin's Drive to Militarize the UN)
by Zenaan Harkness 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

The email way down at the bottom really got me going. Zenaan ----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> ----- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:07:19 +1000 From: Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> To: Jim <jim.sovereign(a)optusnet.com.au> Cc: adamwilliamgreen(a)hotmail.com, Jim Laurie <laurie.aj(a)bigpond.com>, "Adrian B." <pwr4people(a)hotmail.com>, Amy-Rose <amy-rose(a)iinet.net.au>, "Andre R." <rudkovsky(a)hotmail.com>, Andrew Moyle <andrew(a)colonial.net.au>, "Benny M." <travellingbenny(a)gmail.com>, "Bronwyn H." <vaccinfo(a)bigpond.com>, "Carol M." <carolreed98(a)yahoo.com>, David Anderson <diamonddave00(a)gmail.com>, "Gerrit H." <inspector_rikati(a)yahoo.com.au>, "Greg H." <drbugz(a)tpg.com.au>, "Jack W." <jvw(a)netspace.net.au>, John Piesse <jpiesse(a)bigpond.net.au>, "Jose R." <jvrevolove(a)hotmail.com>, "Katherine K." <kathkru33(a)gmail.com>, "Louise G." <louisegallet(a)yahoo.com.au>, Norton <nordy(a)mycg.org>, "Matthew B." <mjbond(a)gmail.com>, "Nan O." <nanold3248(a)yahoo.com.au>, "Nigel W." <changeling_au_2004(a)yahoo.com.au>, "Sophia H." <sophiahristakis(a)hotmail.com>, "Vanessa B." <e.a.brown(a)bigpond.com>, Daniel Bodkin <bodkin10(a)hotmail.com>, "Bruce & Gail H." <beegee22(a)impulse.net.au>, "Andrew K." <premiumcairns(a)gmail.com> Subject: Your guide to some bullshit - was Re: Your Guide to the Operational Launch of the NWO in 2016 (Update 3.1 - Putin's Drive to Militarize the UN) Pinning the following: - push for the NWO - militarisation of the UN upon Russian president Putin, is absolute rubbish! That is nothing but a Soros and North Atlantic oligarch spin story to deflect the conspiracy minded away from their absolute treachery of the people, manifestation of evil in so many forms and genuine intent to provoke the world (Russia, China, anyone who will react to their highly offensive and evil actions such as coups from Yugoslavia (destroyed) to Ukraine (may as well be considered destroyed - but certainly not by Russia), and the overthrowing of so many nations, from Iraq to Libya and Syria. The games of the elite are an absolutely monstrosity, a blight on humans, a blight on this world. Trying to pin all that on Putin, who is the only man still standing who stands AGAINST the USA hegemonic evil, is the height of idiocy! (To get an idea of the stand Putin is successfully making, uniting many "Eurasion block" countries and "the global south" as Pepe Escobar calls it - just witness those who tried before Putin tried, to sell their oil in any currency other than the "almighty" US Dollar: - Saddam Hussein started selling oil in Euros (Iraqi president, murdered by North American 'elite' forces) - Muammar Qaddafi was building an Arab world gold backed "dinar" currency, and intended to sell oil in this gold dinar See for example - absolutely damning emails, thousands of them, here's just one particularly good example of a badly damning email: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/declassified-emails-reveal-natos-true-moti… An exerpt: The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.” Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves, estimated at “143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver,” posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency. And more - Qaddafi was the best thing the pan Arab world had ever seen: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-tr… https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/21/libya-muam… https://www.rt.com/news/economy-oil-gold-libya/ http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/anthony-wile-gaddafi-planned-gold-di… http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/markets/item/4630-gadhafi-s-gold-mone… http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2987399/why_qaddafi_had_to_g… https://news.vice.com/article/libyan-oil-gold-and-qaddafi-the-strange-email… http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/05.11/dinar.html And as ruthlessly capitalistically blunt as it gets: http://www.oil-price.net/en/articles/gaddafi-legacy-of-libya-oil-deals.php (Funny - even the MSM doesn't try to hide the facts on this one.) And more - the Syrian angle, with Iran and Iraq to Syria pipeline: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/9/8/1237500/-The-PetroDollar-Why-Syria http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-libyan-war-american-power-and-the-decline-… http://www.rationalskepticism.org/conspiracy-theories/libyan-proposed-curre… "Iraq nets handsome profit by dumping dollar for euro": https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/feb/16/iraq.theeuro http://www.monetary.org/was-the-iraqi-shift-to-euro-currency-to-real-reason… http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/22/the-usa-attacked-iraq-because-saddam… http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,998512,00.html "Iraq: Baghdad Moves To Euro": http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1095057.html "The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro": http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html http://www.resilience.org/stories/2005-08-08/petrodollar-warfare-dollars-eu… http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Iraq_dollar_vs_euro.html And more - more Syria, more pipelines, more war: http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/is-the-fight-over-a-gas-pipeline-f… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar-Turkey_pipeline http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-secret-stupid-saudi-us-deal-on-syria/54101… http://www.ecowatch.com/syria-another-pipeline-war-1882180532.html https://ftmdaily.com/what-jerry-thinks/whysyria/ http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/08/syria-ultimate-pipelineistan-war/ http://atimes.com/2016/06/saudi-arabia-and-turkeys-pipeline-wars-in-yemen-a… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-10/competing-gas-pipelines-are-fuelin… http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/24/rfk-jr-isis-created-by-washington-o… https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-che… And more - Yugoslavia destroyed over oil: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/05/stat-m24.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adria_oil_pipeline http://www.cnn.com/US/9904/20/us.kosovo.01/ http://historum.com/speculative-history/34837-oil-cause-ex-yugoslavia-wars.… https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jul/01/balkans.warcrimes2 "Yugoslavia Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products by ..." https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_MOVE_EXPC_DC_NUS-NYO_MBBLPD_M.htm https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_MOVE_EXPC_DC_NUS-NYO_MBBL_A.htm http://mehring.com/nato-war-with-yugo.html http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/GER108A.html http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Yugoslavia/Yugoslavia_ShockTherapy.html http://www.emperors-clothes.com/analysis/corridor.htm And the latest round of tackling the USA hegemony, this time, for the first time, successfully: http://www.pravdareport.com/business/finance/17-05-2016/134444-russia_china… http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-collapse-of-the-western-fiat-monetary-syst… http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160330/1037221433/gold-russia-china-dedol… http://www.mining.com/web/crumbling-u-s-empire-drives-russia-china-to-move-… http://russia-insider.com/en/node/14386 And a final link for those who just can't, just can't, just can't get e-nou-ough - :D - enjoy: http://www.marketslant.com/articles/putin-short-bonds-long-gold There is a bloody big crash on the way, and Putin and Russia and those with that second brain cell are preparing for. That is prudent. It is the Western oligarchs who have created this monstrous mess that is about to come, about to hit a lot of people in an extremely intense way - I put it at 2020 at the latest, since by about 2024, the USA government's tax receipts will no longer cover their interest repayments (not to mention any capital repayment), and so, mathematically, this next crash, just like 1929, is mathematically certain, engineered to be exactly this way. And it sure wasn't Putin who created it. So, in conclusion: redifininggod.com and "Belle <abelle1" are either intentionally or unintentionally, puppets of the NWO itself, and promulgating BULLSHIT for those who don't think for themselves. Lap them up at your own stupidity trough.. Perhaps someone with at least a second brain cell can find something based on facts. It's not hard to find. My second brain cell's asleep right now, so I'll leave that to someone with a few spare minutes to find even more facts, more sane analysis of the situation. Be gone, fools! Zenaan On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 01:34:10PM +1000, Jim wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark B > To: undisclosed-recipients: > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:30 AM > Subject: Fwd: Fw: [Shared Post] Your Guide to the Operational Launch of the NWO in 2016 (Update 3.1 - Putin's Drive to Militarize the UN) > > > Interesting expose about coming launch of NWO! Am directing my energy into bringing about its failure and destruction. > M > > > > ...Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome aboard. Please take you seats and familiarize yourself with the Guide...to the Operational Launch of the NWO in 2016. With Love, Always, A xoxoxo > > > ----- Forwarded message ----- > From: Belle <abelle1 > To: abelle > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:46:36 +0000 > Subject: [Shared Post] Your Guide t > > Your Guide to the Operational Launch of the NWO in 2016 (Update 3.1 - Putin's Drive to Militarize the UN) > > http://redefininggod.com/2016/08/your-guide-to-the-operational-launch-of-th… > > > _______ ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: moving on (multiple future forks)
by Riad S. Wahby 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

peter.thoenen(a)yahoo.com wrote: > Was about to mention that .. wasn't the second to last node ran by > RA Hetting (or something like that) .. been over a decade, memories > failing. Forgot you even switched to mailman, was thinking you ran > the last and only CDR node still in existence. According to my notes, the last two nodes to go were minder.net and pro-ns.net, both in 2005. At one time there were bunches of others: http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2001-December/001492.html -=rsw

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Fwd: [Cryptography] Electronic currency revived after 20-year hiatus
by Cari Machet 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

so interesting thread on crypto ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ray Dillinger <bear(a)sonic.net> Date: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cryptography] Electronic currency revived after 20-year hiatus To: cryptography(a)metzdowd.com On 08/17/2016 06:21 PM, Natanael wrote: > All previous solutions required gatekeepers, because they all failed if the > adversary could perform a Sybil attack (flood the network with nodes). You're wrong. Existing solutions for the Byzantine Generals Problem provide for any two correctly functioning nodes to reach agreement regardless of what any or all other nodes do. Sybil attacks do not affect the correctness of the solution. The problem with them is that required bandwidth per peer scale with the square of the total number of all other peers. And sybil attacks DO affect the scale of the problem for bandwidth purposes. With block chains the required bandwidth per peer scales linearly with the number of all other peers (well, technically with the size of the transactions done by all other peers), making it more scalable (but still not scalable to the level of a widely used payment network). The "Lightning Network" solves a problem for people who do many transactions per day with each other. There is no merchant nor client with whom I do more than one transaction per day, so absolutely none of my transactions would wind up using it. I expect it to have some real impact on the bandwidth and size of the block chain because some business models are absolutely pathological in terms of number of transactions per day by individual customers (like casinos or speculative markets) but not nearly as much as its proponents hope because it simply isn't applicable to ordinary tx (like grocery stores, office supply vendors, restaurants, or investment markets). And it still doesn't solve the problem that Trusted parties have emerged in the form of online wallets and exchanges etc, and they are failing and/or goxxing people on a regular basis. Multimillion dollar losses, thefts, and swindles impose public as well as private expense. Legislators, Law enforcers, and civil courts cannot ignore them because the people who get goxxed when they happen won't allow them to. Legislation, law enforcement, and both civil and criminal prosecutions in court are damned expensive, and will accordingly attract taxation and regulation as the taxpayers underwriting that expense use their governments to seek to limit their losses. Being a self-sufficient or self-regulating system does not include placing fiscal burdens on the public without taxation. Nor does it include freeloading on public law enforcement, legislative, and judicial resources without regulation. Bear _______________________________________________ The cryptography mailing list cryptography(a)metzdowd.com http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimachet(a)gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Reykjavik +354 894 8650 Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited.

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Fwd: [Cryptography] Voynich Manuscript to be published
by grarpamp 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

It's been scanned, so 900 copies won't be worth $10k, but still cool enough for the bitcoin crowd to buy some. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 06:38:32 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Cryptography] Voynich Manuscript to be published To: Cryptography List <cryptography(a)metzdowd.com> http://www.smh.com.au/world/10000-copies-give-amateurs-a-chance-to-decipher… ``Siloe will produce 898 replicas of the manuscript, raising the possibility that one will fall into the hands of someone who will at last crack the code.'' For a paltry €7000-€8000, you too can have a go at cracking it; any takers? -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."

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Revolt Against Tor Over Rape Claims, Process, Board, Etc
by spUX 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

> Mirimir: > Usability improvements: > > 1) bridge setup wizard > 2) privacy/security slider I said one XD Look: www.darkpatterns.org Browse library; look what fits. > 3) auto updates In favor of backdoor, seems.

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Advanced Deanonymization Attacks
by Patrick Schleizer 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

A number of advanced deanonymization attacks. These do not just apply to Whonix, but any anonymity system. Some are also general security issues. Rather than exploiting bugs in the hypervisor to break out, some of these attacks rely on the design of the underlying hardware to bypass privilege separation boundaries and extract (or leak) sensitive information to the network. No need for alarm, there are many qualifications to this and details in the listed tickets on proposed countermeasures. We are interested in cooperation to better assess the performance impact of the planned fixes. - Keystroke Deanonymization: [1] - Advanced Attacks Meta ticket: [2] -- CPU-induced latency Covert Channel: [3] -- Cross-VM cache attacks countermeasures: [4] -- DRAMA: Exploiting DRAM Addressing for Cross-CPU Attacks: [5] -- TCP ISNs and Temperature induced clock skews: [6] Cheers, Patrick [1] https://phabricator.whonix.org/T5421 [2] https://phabricator.whonix.org/T5401 [3] https://phabricator.whonix.org/T530 [4] https://phabricator.whonix.org/T539 [5] https://phabricator.whonix.org/T541 [6] https://phabricator.whonix.org/T543

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the diplomats jurisdiction
by Zenaan Harkness 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

For those who like their oglaf and cypherpunks combined ( nsfw xxx ao ): http://oglaf.com/sanctuary/

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[OT] [Just for Fun] Fwd: Re: Anarchist Bibliography, please?
by Cecilia Tanaka 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Tsk, tsk... Men are very strange. In one day, I am "honey". In another, I am a "criminal". :D I never answered before, but yes, I am single. And when I receive messages like yours, I am completely sure that I really want to be single, wohooo!!! :D ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ben 0wned" <gmojo02(a)protonmail.com> Date: Aug 5, 2016 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Anarchist Bibliography, please? (was Re: Deconstructing an Institutional Slander...) To: <cecilia.tanaka(a)gmail.com> Hi Cecilia honey. Are you single? -------- Original Message -------- On Aug 5, 2016, 3:28 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: Wow, lots of lovely references!!! Thank you with all my heart!!! (*-*) <3 <3 <3 Tender kisses and warm hugs!!! Much love and deep gratitude from Brazil!!! <3 Ceci (づ• - •)づ♥

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moving on
by mirrormir 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

> Riad: > the list Is this only hosted version? I can haz mirror?

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