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"You have to legalize drugs to win that war [on drugs]." - Trump
by donkdick＠sigaint.org 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

> Razer: > "No vote" IS a vote 'dumbfuck'. Yes, but it is not a vote for those not voted for.

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Immunity for Hillary's staff?
by jim bell 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

http://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-comeys-blind-eye-1475191703 [partial quote follows] By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL Sept. 29, 2016 7:28 p.m. ET 1067 COMMENTS Two revealing, if largely unnoticed, moments came in the middle of FBI Director Jim Comey’s Wednesday testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. When combined, these moments prove that Mr. Comey gave Hillary Clinton a pass. Congress hauled Mr. Comey in to account for the explosive revelation that the government granted immunity to Clinton staffers Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson as part of its investigation into whether Mrs. Clinton had mishandled classified information. Rep. Tom Marino (R., Pa.), who was once a Justice Department prosecutor and knows how these investigations roll, provided the first moment. He asked Mr. Comey why Ms. Mills was so courteously offered immunity in return for her laptop—a laptop that Mr. Comey admitted investigators were very keen to obtain. Why not simply impanel a grand jury, get a subpoena, and seize the evidence? Mr. Comey’s answer was enlightening: “It’s a reasonable question. . . . Any time you are talking about the prospect of subpoenaing a computer from a lawyer—that involves the lawyer’s practice of law—you know you are getting into a big megillah.” Pressed further, he added: “In general, you can often do things faster with informal agreements, especially when you are interacting with lawyers.” The key words: “The lawyer’s practice of law.” What Mr. Comey was referencing here is attorney-client privilege. Ms. Mills was able to extract an immunity deal, avoid answering questions, and sit in on Mrs. Clinton’s FBI interview because she has positioned herself as Hillary’s personal lawyer. Ms. Mills could therefore claim that any conversations or interactions she had with Mrs. Clinton about the private server were protected by attorney-client privilege. Only here’s the rub: When Ms. Mills worked at the State Department she was not acting as Mrs. Clinton’s personal lawyer. She was the secretary's chief of staff. Any interaction with Mrs. Clinton about her server, or any evidence from that time, should have been fair game for the FBI and the Justice Department. Ms. Mills was allowed to get away with this “attorney-client privilege” nonsense only because she claimed that she did not know about Mrs. Clinton’s server until after they had both left the State Department. Ergo, no questions about the server. [end of partial quote] Jim Bell

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[WAR] Global South grows an extra pair of nads: Duterte: "America has lost"
by Zenaan Harkness 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

>From the ever globally south aligned Pepe Escobar, a reminder that we can no longer say it's only Putin who gives nads to the global south :) ** 'America Has Lost' in the Philippines as Duterte Calls for Alliance with Russia and China http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/10/25/america-has-lost-in-philip… ------------------------------------------------------------ by Pepe Escobar on Sat, Oct 29, 2016 «Your honors, in this venue I announce my separation from the United States… both in military and economics also».Thus Philippines President Rodrigo «The Punisher» Duterte unleashed a geopolitical earthquake encompassing Eurasia and reverberating all across the Pacific Ocean.And talk about choosing his venue with aplomb; right in the heart of the Rising Dragon, no less.Capping his state visit to Beijing, Duterte then coined the mantra – pregnant with overtones - that will keep ringing all across the global South; «America has lost».And if that was not enough, he announced a new alliance – Philippines, China and Russia – is about to emerge; «there are three of us against the world». A brief history of the big false flag attacks in the last 100 years: ** False Flag Attack Coming in Syria as Americans Sleepwalk Into World War III http://www.wakingtimes.com/2016/10/12/false-flag-attack-imminent-syria-glob… ------------------------------------------------------------ by Isaac Davis on Sat, Oct 29, 2016 Americans are sleepwalking into World War III, and as events in Syria are shaping up it could come any moment as the biggest October surprise ever. At this stage in the conflict, we are one minor event away from all out war between the world’s major super powers, an event which would most certainly result in nuclear war. All that is needed is for the right type of false flag event to serve as provocation.

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"You have to legalize drugs to win that war [on drugs]." - Trump
by Hugh G. Johnson 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

> Shawn K. Quinn: > a vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson > (or for that matter, a vote for Charlie Brown or Santa Claus) > could potentially help Rump win. A vote for one is not a vote for another, dumbfuck; amazing ray says votes don't matter.

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[SAKER] Feudalism, Then & Now
by Zenaan Harkness 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

A simple graphic from The Saker, comparing medieval feudalism to modern corporate feudalism. http://thesaker.is/feudalism-medieval-and-modern/ Direct link to the image (there's no associated text): http://thesaker.is/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Feudalism-now-and-then-1024x8… ~240KiB

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Happy 4 July!!!
by grarpamp 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeiture (HBO)

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Fwd: offlist from the bot...
by Razer 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

The bot forgot Zen in the Cc:s, and besides, I do believe I never wrote that. Fix your bot stupid. Rr -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: offlist Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 13:06:09 +1100 From: rooty <arpspoof(a)protonmail.com> To: Александр <>, Juan <>, Razer <> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 09:13:46PM -0400, rooty wrote: > -------- Original Message -------- On Oct 28, 2016, 1:23 PM, juan > wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:33:52 -0400 Kevin Gallagher wrote: > > > > On 10/28/2016 10:06 AM, Razer wrote: > > Ps. Obviously, I think she > has penis > > > since it dead could ANYONE confirm or deny sea sea have penis - thx > rooty Yes rooty/cici/cicilian mafia idiot, has ovaries so big they look like TWO dicks!

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Scientific Progress
by coresamples＠sigaint.org 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

> Razer: > You didn't pull that quote out of your ass cunt. You knew who wrote it. That's the way legitimate posters 'roll'.

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scientific unit
by rooty 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

-------- Original Message -------- On Oct 28, 2016, 1:23 PM, juan wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:33:52 -0400 Kevin Gallagher wrote: > > > On 10/28/2016 10:06 AM, Razer wrote: > > Ps. Obviously, I think she has penis since it dead could ANYONE confirm or deny sea sea have penis - thx rooty

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Only Barrett Brown could do that!
by Razer 28 Oct '16

28 Oct '16

The Bundy Boiz acquitted of "Conspiracy to impede federal officers through intimidation, threats or force". Oregon militants acquitted of conspiracy in wildlife refuge seizure By Scott Bransford PORTLAND, Ore. A federal court jury delivered a surprise verdict on Thursday acquitting anti-government militant leader Ammon Bundy and six followers of conspiracy charges stemming from their role in the armed takeover of a wildlife center in Oregon earlier this year. The outcome marked a stinging defeat for federal prosecutors and law enforcement in a trial the defendants sought to turn into a pulpit for airing their opposition to U.S. government control over millions of acres of public lands in the West. Bundy and others, including his brother and co-defendant Ryan Bundy, cast the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge as a patriotic act of civil disobedience. Prosecutors called it a lawless scheme to seize federal property by force. Jubilant supporters of the Bundys thronged the courthouse after the verdict, hailing the trial's outcome as vindication of a political ideology that is profoundly distrustful of federal authority and challenges its legitimacy. "We're so grateful to the jurors who weren't swayed by the nonsense that was going on," defendant Shawna Cox told reporters. "God said we weren't guilty. We weren't guilty of anything." As the seven-week-long trial in the U.S. District Court in Portland climaxed, U.S. marshals wrestled to the floor Ammon Bundy's lawyer, Marcus Mumford, as he argued heatedly with the judge over the terms of his client's continued detention. The Bundys still face assault, conspiracy and other charges from a separate armed standoff in 2014 at the Nevada ranch of their father, Cliven Bundy, triggered when federal agents seized his cattle for his failure to pay grazing fees for his use of public land. The outcome of the Oregon trial clearly shocked many in the packed courtroom. Attorneys exchanged looks of astonishment with the defendants, then hugged their clients as the not-guilty verdicts were read amid gasps from spectators. Outside the courthouse, supporters celebrated by shouting "Hallelujah" and reading passages from the U.S. Constitution. One man rode his horse, named Lady Liberty, in front of the courthouse carrying an American flag. The verdict came after four days of deliberations. One juror, a former federal employee, was dismissed over questions of bias on Wednesday and replaced by a substitute. The 12-member panel found all seven defendants - six men and a woman - not guilty of the most serious charge, conspiracy to impede federal officers through intimidation, threats or force. That charge alone carried a maximum penalty of six years in prison. The defendants also were acquitted of illegal possession of firearms in a federal facility and theft of government property, except in the case of Ryan Bundy, for whom jurors were deadlocked on the charge of theft. The takeover of the wildlife refuge was initially sparked by outrage over the plight of two imprisoned Oregon ranchers the occupiers believed had been unfairly treated in an arson case. But the militants said they were also protesting larger grievances at what they saw as government tyranny. The standoff led to the shooting death of one protester, Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, by police shortly after the Bundy brothers were arrested, and left parts of the refuge badly damaged. More than two dozen people, in all, have been criminally charged in the occupation, and a second group of defendants is due to stand trial in February. Mumford told reporters he believed Ammon and Ryan Bundy would remain in custody for the time being but may be transferred to Nevada. Four co-defendants were free on their own recognizance during the trial. A fifth, David Fry, the last of the occupiers to surrender in February, was released hours after the verdict. (Reporting by Scott Bransford in Portland; Writing by Steve Gorman; Editing by Cynthia Osterman and Simon Cameron-Moore) http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oregon-militia-idUSKCN12R2Z4

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