October 2015 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

@OpenTechFund is an unabashed CIA front
by Razer 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

See: https://twitter.com/reggie_airdale/status/642095811803742209 ...and while you're at it check out the new look for schoolgirls in "Moderate Rebel" controlled Idlib Syria: http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/132230415144 Historic photo: US 'advisors' advising civilians Now: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSlwDrbWcAA1kvK.jpg:large Then: http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/132232109389

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Re: Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)
by Razer 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

On 10/30/2015 11:02 AM, Sean Lynch wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:33 AM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net > <mailto:Rayzer@riseup.net>> wrote: > > > I think there's a place for individualism within collectivism but the > collective comes first. > > > This I can't really agree with. There is no collective without the > individual, and why should any individual be part of such a thing if > it doesn't benefit him or her? In a word "Survival". > > I recognize that we share the planet and that we all benefit from the > existence of society, but I think the only obligation that places upon > us is to give at least as much as we take. Sorry, as an anarchist I have to say it's an anarchist's responsibility to take responsibility for the well-being of all members of the collective, which for me includes ALL humankind. > But at the end of the day the only people qualified to make the > determination of whether an individual's contribution is adequate is > the individual and anyone considering entering into some kind of > exchange/relationship/whatever with that individual. That is the antithesis of collectivism. > It is the sum total of these decisions and interactions from which > society emerges. Feudal or industrial capitalist society perhaps. > > My longer term hope is that sharing the planet is just a temporary > constraint that we'll eventually overcome. There is a lot of room in > the galaxy and even the solar system. "If you don't like it, leave" More like "We fucked it up. Let's go somewhere else and fuck it up now" (visualizes moon-based fast-food chain trash fired from a rocket hitting alien on head starting an intergalactic war humans are unprepared for leading to their annihilation) You like "Role-Playing" games Sean? I've watched people create alternative personas just as fucked up as their pre-existing one. That IS the lesson from role-playing. If you can't get your 'first life' right, good luck with any other you might conceive. I've had thoughts about letting all the people who think escape from the planet is an option do it, and kill each other off elsewhere so the rest of us who remain can live in peace repairing the damage ... collectively. Almost every enthusiast of the relocation-to-space idea I've ever met is a closeted feudalist. Good luck.. Bon voyage! > is a lot more realistic of an option when the choices and resources > available are practically infinite. No known resource is infinite. > This is not to say I'm sympathetic to the Venus Project and its' ilk; > I don't think they're wrong about a future of abundance, I just think > their language and thinking is rooted in a fundamental > misunderstanding of the meaning of economic scarcity.

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The Blacklist (was: The Black List)
by Michael Best 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

I asked one of the writers about this awhile back after another episode seemed to mirror a "case" I was involved in. The off the record answer was that instance was a total coincidence but the research assistants for the writing team use a lot of real life stuff as inspiration, but rarely delve more than skin deep. They borrow headlines, but that's it. It's like Oliver Stone's JFK - a mirror of reality, but nothing is quite right. TL;DR: Probably a trick, but James Spader's voice will make me forget that.

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Re: list sans smtp spillage
by Ulex Europae 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

At 08:44 AM 10/27/2015, Cari Machet wrote: >I dont know-know but test it all out irl ask someone in love with >you if you can fuck them ...watch the facial expression That seems pointless, BTDT a few times and had the same said to me more times than that. What followed after was, a pleasure. >On Oct 27, 2015 12:06 PM, "Ulex Europae" ><<mailto:europus@gmail.com>europus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Word meanings change over time. To not acknowledge and take this >into consideration reveals an agenda. A religious agenda, most probably. Mainstream religions these days have odd ideas about women and the sex act. They should advance their theologies because it's the 21st century now, not the Dark Ages (which xtianity single-handedly caused (for western civilization), btw). -- "Studies have found that people who use profanity are more intelligent than the rest of you motherfuckers." -- some Facebook meme

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Re: Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)
by Sean Lynch 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

Dammit, meant to send to the list again. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM Sean Lynch <seanl(a)literati.org> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:33 AM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net> wrote: > >> >> I think there's a place for individualism within collectivism but the >> collective comes first. >> >> > This I can't really agree with. There is no collective without the > individual, and why should any individual be part of such a thing if it > doesn't benefit him or her? > > I recognize that we share the planet and that we all benefit from the > existence of society, but I think the only obligation that places upon us > is to give at least as much as we take. But at the end of the day the only > people qualified to make the determination of whether an individual's > contribution is adequate is the individual and anyone considering entering > into some kind of exchange/relationship/whatever with that individual. It > is the sum total of these decisions and interactions from which society > emerges. > > My longer term hope is that sharing the planet is just a temporary > constraint that we'll eventually overcome. There is a lot of room in the > galaxy and even the solar system. "If you don't like it, leave" is a lot > more realistic of an option when the choices and resources available are > practically infinite. This is not to say I'm sympathetic to the Venus > Project and its' ilk; I don't think they're wrong about a future of > abundance, I just think their language and thinking is rooted in a > fundamental misunderstanding of the meaning of economic scarcity. >

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Re: Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)
by Razer 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

On 10/30/2015 09:52 AM, Sean Lynch wrote: > Something that one might call "societal equality" is of interest to > me, too. But different people have different ideas of what that means. And that is the point of commonality we work from. The idea is to work towards more of that commonality without sacrificing our individual ethics or morals. Ideas are the 'mutable' element. RR > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:08 PM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net > <mailto:Rayzer@riseup.net>> wrote: > > > > On 10/29/2015 03:27 PM, Sean Lynch wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net > <mailto:Rayzer@riseup.net>> wrote: > > > > You use the word "I" a lot. I aim for a society where "We" > is primary. > > > > > > I aim for the heads of people who aim for such a society, > because "we" > > is a fiction. It is just a way of saying "I" while pretending > you have > > others' interests in mind. You can only speak for yourself. > Trying to > > speak for anyone else who has not asked you to is just another > form of > > coercion. > > Who said I speak for anyone but me? Or care to. > > You're reading a lot into my interest in social equality. Perhaps it's > because of your own world view? > > >

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Re: Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)
by Sean Lynch 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

Sorry, meant to send this to the list, too. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM Sean Lynch <seanl(a)literati.org> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:08 PM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net> wrote: > >> >> >> On 10/29/2015 03:27 PM, Sean Lynch wrote: >> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> > >> > You use the word "I" a lot. I aim for a society where "We" is >> primary. >> > >> > >> > I aim for the heads of people who aim for such a society, because "we" >> > is a fiction. It is just a way of saying "I" while pretending you have >> > others' interests in mind. You can only speak for yourself. Trying to >> > speak for anyone else who has not asked you to is just another form of >> > coercion. >> >> Who said I speak for anyone but me? Or care to. >> >> You're reading a lot into my interest in social equality. Perhaps it's >> because of your own world view? >> > > Something that one might call "societal equality" is of interest to me, > too. But different people have different ideas of what that means. >

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Cypherpunks is broken - Welcome to Secret Admirers
by Trent Secret Admirers 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

TL;DR, apply here: http://oestla3j22reypzj.onion/account/index/applyform It's been more than 20 years since the the Cypherpunk's manifesto was published and we believe it's more important today than it was back then. And like the manifesto, we believe in action more than in talk. Just as software and hardware can be developed for surveillance purposes, so can it be for better privacy and a truly free cyberspace. Technology itself is neutral, we choose what to build with it. The reason so little has been achieved lately is because we lost track of a fundamental point from the manifesto: Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. It seems that the original Cypherpunks mailing list degraded into a debating society and very little new code is written. The signal-to-noise ratio has become abysmal. Intellectual masturbation won't give us more privacy - deployed code does. Towards that end we founded the Secret Admirers. This is what we offer - for members only: - The Secret Admirers mailing list (only reachable via Tor). - The Secret Admirers mailing list archive. - Mail account on the Secret Admirers server to communicate with the mailing list and other members (IMAP). - Git repository hosting (with read access for all member repositories). - Members can edit a user file on the server (for example, to publish their public PGP key). Secret Admirers Rules - Secret Admirers is a community of doers. To be a member, you have to code/maintain privacy enhancing software and/or be the admin of privacy enhancing systems/services. This includes digital OPSEC tools and open-source hardware which is privacy/security related. - To become a full member of Secret Admirers you have to go through the application process (see below). - The existing full members will vote to decide if an applicant becomes a full member. - For all software and systems we design the following holds true: The more privacy it provides the better. This usually implies that strong cryptography is used as well. - Discussions on the Secret Admirers mailing list should be in regard to Cypherpunk... how to build better systems. Members are expected to communicate in a civilized manner and try to maintain a high signal-to-noise ratio. - Software written by our members in the context of Secret Admirers is freely available to all other members. - Only the original author may make the source code available to the general public. Members never release source code written and unreleased by other members. - A full member can bring up to two followers to Secret Admirers. - Followers get the same benefits as full members except voting rights and bringing in followers. - Followers can apply for full membership under the same rules as normal applicants. - Full members have to maintain the conditions of their application. That is, they keep working on/maintaining privacy related software or systems. If members stop being productive they risk loosing their membership status. - Members who do not follow the rules will be ejected. If a full member is ejected his followers will be ejected with him. How to apply for Secret Admirers For your Secret Admirers application we need: - A way to contact you (encrypted). - Your desired pseudonym on Secret Admirers. - A description of your working software project/system. If the code/system is already public we will request proof of control from you. - If you want to make the code only available to Secret Admirers we need it upfront to be able to review your application. Apply here: http://oestla3j22reypzj.onion/account/index/applyform

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Droidjack raids in germany
by Tom 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

German police raided a couple of poeple's homes who've purchased the android RAT tool DroidJack. They justified the searches with the claim Droidjack is an offense-only tool which has no dual use (which is nonsense) and that by purchasing it the user is therefore already a criminal (nonsense as well). Beside this claim they didn't provide any further evidence, like if the person has indeed used the software against someone. The searches are therefore probably unlawful. However if the scheme persists before the courts then it may be illegal to buy/own/use "hacker software" in germany. And since judges usually don't have any clue, the prosecution can tell them whatever they please and will be able to convict basically everyone in the security industry at will. German law blog article: http://www.kanzlei-hoenig.de/2015/droidjack-der-durchsuchungsbeschluss/ BBC report: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34668337 best, Tom

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Fwd: [guardian-dev] Ripple: reliable panic trigger
by grarpamp 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)guardianproject.info> To: Guardian Dev <guardian-dev(a)lists.mayfirst.org> For the "Ripple" panic trigger app, I just put together a trigger sequence that is meant to be self-explanatory, and be very difficult to accidentally set off. This is for the "delete everything" panic setup, so you want to be sure that you don't mistakenly set it off. This is for use cases where the user has some time to do it, and are not super rushed, so for example, crossing a border or in an office that is being raided. You can see screenshots of the trigger sequence here: https://dev.guardianproject.info/boards/21/topics/379 And here is more about the design of Ripple: https://dev.guardianproject.info/boards/21/topics/366 Here is a test build that can be used with the latest Zom to test panic: https://guardianproject.info/builds/Ripple/Ripple-debug.apk https://guardianproject.info/builds/Ripple/Ripple-debug.apk.asc .hc PGP fingerprint: 5E61 C878 0F86 295C E17D 8677 9F0F E587 374B BE81 List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/guardian-dev

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