October 2015 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

Fwd: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Beta: Chat over Tor, Easily
by coderman 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sukhbir Singh <azadi(a)riseup.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:12:00 -0400 Subject: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Beta: Chat over Tor, Easily Hi, Today we are releasing a new, beta version of Tor Messenger, based on Instantbird [0], an instant messaging client developed in the Mozilla community. * What is it? Tor Messenger is a cross-platform chat program that aims to be secure by default and sends all of its traffic over Tor. It supports a wide variety of transport networks, including Jabber (XMPP), IRC, Google Talk, Facebook Chat, Twitter, Yahoo, and others; enables Off-the-Record (OTR) Messaging [1] automatically; and has an easy-to-use graphical user interface localized into multiple languages. * What it isn't... Tor Messenger builds on the networks you are familiar with, so that you can continue communicating in a way your contacts are willing and able to do. This has traditionally been in a client-server model, meaning that your metadata (specifically the relationships between contacts) can be logged by the server. However, your route to the server will be hidden because you are communicating over Tor. We are also excited about systems like Pond [2] and Ricochet [3], which try to solve this problem, and would encourage you to look at their designs and use them too. * Why Instantbird? We considered a number of messaging clients: Pidgin, Adam Langley's xmpp-client, and Instantbird. Instantbird was the pragmatic choice -- its transport protocols are written in a memory-safe language (JavaScript); it has a graphical user interface and already supports many natural languages; and it's a XUL application, which means we can leverage both the code (Tor Launcher) and in-house expertise that the Tor Project has developed working on Tor Browser with Firefox. It also has an active and vibrant software developer community that has been very responsive and understanding of our needs. The main feature it lacked was OTR support, which we have implemented [4] and hope to upstream to the main Instantbird repository for the benefit of all Instantbird (and Thunderbird) users. * Current Status Today we are releasing a beta version with which we hope to gain both usability and security related feedback. There have been three previous alpha releases to the mailing lists that have already helped smooth out some of the rougher edges. * Downloads Linux (32-bit) https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b2/tor-messenger-linux32-0.1.… Linux (64-bit) https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b2/tor-messenger-linux64-0.1.… Windows https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b2/tormessenger-install-0.1.0… OS X https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b2/TorMessenger-0.1.0b2-osx64… sha256sums https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b2/sha256sums.txt https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b2/sha256sums.txt.asc The sha256sums.txt file containing hashes of the bundles is signed with the key 0x6887935AB297B391 (fingerprint: 3A0B 3D84 3708 9613 6B84 5E82 6887 935A B297 B391). * Instructions - On Linux, extract the bundle(s) and then run: ./start-tor-messenger.desktop - On OS X, copy the Tor Messenger application from the disk image to your local disk before running it. On all platforms, Tor Messenger sets the profile folder for Firefox/Instantbird to the installation directory. - Note that as a policy, unencrypted one-to-one conversations are not allowed and your messages will not be transmitted if the person you are talking with does not have an OTR-enabled client. You can disable this option in the preferences to allow unencrypted communication but doing so is not recommended. * Source Code We are doing automated builds [5] of Tor Messenger for all platforms. The Linux builds are reproducible: anyone who builds Tor Messenger for Linux should have byte-for-byte identical binaries compared with other builds from a given source. You can build it yourself [6] and let us know if you encounter any problems or cannot match our build. The Windows and OS X builds are not completely reproducible yet but we are working on it [7]. * What's to Come Our current focus is security, robustness and user experience. We will be fixing bugs and releasing updates as appropriate, and in the future, we plan on pairing releases with Mozilla's Extended Support Release (ESR) cycle. We have some ideas on where to take Tor Messenger but we would like to hear what you have to say. Some possibilities include: - Reproducible builds for Windows and OS X (#10942) - Sandboxing (#10943) - Automatic updates (#14388) - Improved Tor support (#10950) - OTR over Twitter DMs (#13312) - Produce (and distribute) internationalized builds (#10945) - Secure multi-party communication (np1sec) [8] - Encrypted file-transfers - Usability study * How To Help Give it a try and provide feedback, requests, and file bugs [9] (choose the "Tor Messenger" component). If you are a developer, help us close all our tickets [10] or help us review our design doc [11]. As always, we are idling on IRC in #tor-dev (OFTC) (nicks: arlolra; boklm; sukhe) and subscribed to the tor-talk/dev mailing lists. Please note that this release is for users who would like to help us with testing the product but at the same time who also understand the risks involved in using beta software. Thanks and we hope you enjoy Tor Messenger! [0] - http://instantbird.com [1] - https://otr.cypherpunks.ca [2] - https://pond.imperialviolet.org [3] - https://ricochet.im [4] - https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr [5] - https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git [6] - https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git/tree/README [7] - https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/10942 [8] - https://github.com/equalitie/np1sec [9] - https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/newticket [10] - https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/query?status=!closed&component=Tor… [11] - https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorMessenger/DesignDoc

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The Economist checks in on "The promise of the blockchain"
by Razer 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

The Economist The promise of the blockchain The trust machine The technology behind bitcoin could transform how the economy works Oct 31st 2015 | From the print edition BITCOIN has a bad reputation. The decentralised digital cryptocurrency, powered by a vast computer network, is notorious for the wild fluctuations in its value, the zeal of its supporters and its degenerate uses, such as extortion, buying drugs and hiring hitmen in the online bazaars of the “dark net”. This is unfair. The value of a bitcoin has been pretty stable, at around $250, for most of this year. Among regulators and financial institutions, scepticism has given way to enthusiasm (the European Union recently recognised it as a currency). But most unfair of all is that bitcoin’s shady image causes people to overlook the extraordinary potential of the “blockchain”, the technology that underpins it. This innovation carries a significance stretching far beyond cryptocurrency. The blockchain lets people who have no particular confidence in each other collaborate without having to go through a neutral central authority. Simply put, it is a machine for creating trust. The blockchain food chain To understand the power of blockchain systems, and the things they can do, it is important to distinguish between three things that are commonly muddled up, namely the bitcoin currency, the specific blockchain that underpins it and the idea of blockchains in general. A helpful analogy is with Napster, the pioneering but illegal “peer-to-peer” file-sharing service that went on line in 1999, providing free access to millions of music tracks. Napster itself was swiftly shut down, but it inspired a host of other peer-to-peer services. Many of these were also used for pirating music and films. Yet despite its dubious origins, peer-to-peer technology found legitimate uses, powering internet startups such as Skype (for telephony) and Spotify (for music streaming)—and also, as it happens, bitcoin. The blockchain is an even more potent technology. In essence it is a shared, trusted, public ledger that everyone can inspect, but which no single user controls. The participants in a blockchain system collectively keep the ledger up to date: it can be amended only according to strict rules and by general agreement. Bitcoin’s blockchain ledger prevents double-spending and keeps track of transactions continuously. It is what makes possible a currency without a central bank. Blockchains are also the latest example of the unexpected fruits of cryptography. Mathematical scrambling is used to boil down an original piece of information into a code, known as a hash. Any attempt to tamper with any part of the blockchain is apparent immediately—because the new hash will not match the old ones. In this way a science that keeps information secret (vital for encrypting messages and online shopping and banking) is, paradoxically, also a tool for open dealing. Bitcoin itself may never be more than a curiosity. However blockchains have a host of other uses because they meet the need for a trustworthy record, something vital for transactions of every sort. Dozens of startups now hope to capitalise on the blockchain technology, either by doing clever things with the bitcoin blockchain or by creating new blockchains of their own (see article). One idea, for example, is to make cheap, tamper-proof public databases—land registries, say, (Honduras and Greece are interested); or registers of the ownership of luxury goods or works of art. Documents can be notarised by embedding information about them into a public blockchain—and you will no longer need a notary to vouch for them. Financial-services firms are contemplating using blockchains as a record of who owns what instead of having a series of internal ledgers. A trusted private ledger removes the need for reconciling each transaction with a counterparty, it is fast and it minimises errors. Santander reckons that it could save banks up to $20 billion a year by 2022. Twenty-five banks have just joined a blockchain startup, called R3 CEV, to develop common standards, and NASDAQ is about to start using the technology to record trading in securities of private companies. These new blockchains need not work in exactly the way that bitcoin’s does. Many of them could tweak its model by, for example, finding alternatives to its energy-intensive “mining” process, which pays participants newly minted bitcoins in return for providing the computing power needed to maintain the ledger. A group of vetted participants within an industry might instead agree to join a private blockchain, say, that needs less security. Blockchains can also implement business rules, such as transactions that take place only if two or more parties endorse them, or if another transaction has been completed first. As with Napster and peer-to-peer technology, a clever idea is being modified and improved. In the process, it is fast throwing off its reputation for shadiness. New chains on the block The spread of blockchains is bad for anyone in the “trust business”—the centralised institutions and bureaucracies, such as banks, clearing houses and government authorities that are deemed sufficiently trustworthy to handle transactions. Even as some banks and governments explore the use of this new technology, others will surely fight it. But given the decline in trust in governments and banks in recent years, a way to create more scrutiny and transparency could be no bad thing. Drawing up regulations for blockchains at this early stage would be a mistake: the history of peer-to-peer technology suggests that it is likely to be several years before the technology’s full potential becomes clear. In the meantime regulators should stay their hands, or find ways to accommodate new approaches within existing frameworks, rather than risk stifling a fast-evolving idea with overly prescriptive rules. The notion of shared public ledgers may not sound revolutionary or sexy. Neither did double-entry book-keeping or joint-stock companies. Yet, like them, the blockchain is an apparently mundane process that has the potential to transform how people and businesses co-operate. Bitcoin fanatics are enthralled by the libertarian ideal of a pure, digital currency beyond the reach of any central bank. The real innovation is not the digital coins themselves, but the trust machine that mints them—and which promises much more besides. http://www.economist.com/node/21677198/print

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Re: Cypherpunks is broken - Welcome to Secret Admirers
by jd.cypherpunks＠gmail.com 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

Is this a new initative from NSA & Co (or an old one?) Nothing new here. --jd -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: Trent Secret Admirers <trent.secretadmirers(a)ownbay.net> Datum: 29.10.2015 16:41 (GMT+01:00) An: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org> Betreff: Cypherpunks is broken - Welcome to Secret Admirers TL;DR, apply here: http://oestla3j22reypzj.onion/account/index/applyform > snip

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Ethereum and Auger
by jim bell 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

If we are looking for interesting subjects to discuss, why not Ethereum https://www.ethereum.org/ and Auger? http://www.augur.net/ Jim Bell >From the Auger website: The Augur Alpha Preview After months of development, we are proud to release our alpha version of Augur. This version showcases the basic features of our prediction market implementation. It's by no means feature complete and certainly prone to bugs.Tell us what you think and report any issues you have using the "Feedback" link in the app.

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Getting embarrassing - Syria, the long haul
by Zenaan Harkness 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

This is getting embarrassing for "the West" - the so called moral high ground of the West, never existed. Even Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed -after- Japan had surrendered, just that America insisted on humiliation of unconditional surrender. http://russia-insider.com/en/documents-reveal-west-plotted-false-flag-justi… " In 1957, it was PG-13 “border clashes”. Now we have “government chemical weapons attacks against orphans” " I wonder where our CIA apologists are now ... Z

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Surveillance... Beware the Weather Blimps
by grarpamp 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/28/ibm-will-acquire-the-weather-companys-digi… According to IBM, the acquisition helps it to harness one of the largest big data opportunities in the world ... The deal will combine two big data platforms, IBM's cognitive and analytics business with that of Weather ... The Weather Company has the fourth-most visited mobile app in the U.S. and handles 26 billion inquiries to its cloud-based services daily, generating about 4 GB of data per second ... including Weather's mobile and web properties, which analyze data from ... over 40 million mobile phones http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/harford/aberdeen-havre-de-grace/b… JLENS, has become a fixture of the Baltimore skyline since the first of the two blimps was launched over Middle River in December. When aloft, the aircraft use sophisticated radar to see up to 340 miles in any direction ... It can be used to track ... cars on land. Authorities say the system is intended to watch for and direct fire on ... other threats. Privacy advocates, meanwhile, have expressed concern about deploying such sophisticated surveillance technology over the United States.

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mailing list etiquette violators list
by stef 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

after the much successful list of coderman regarding contributors-to-be- filtered, allow me to present you the list of the most - netiquette-wise - unrespectful contributors to this list: (you can find the explanation of each lint in the source code here: https://gist.github.com/stef/f35c1339d7013f7966b8) 405 juan.g71(a)gmail.com nlbloat 279 70% quotebloat 75 18% quotedsig 18 4% longlines 16 4% oneliner 8 2% toppost 7 1% nosubject 1 0% fullquote 1 0% 287 cathalgarvey(a)cathalgarvey.me toppost 128 67% longsig 49 25% quotebloat 48 25% longlines 42 22% quotedsig 18 9% nlbloat 1 0% oneliner 1 0% 193 grarpamp(a)gmail.com longlines 132 23% nlbloat 26 4% oneliner 18 3% quotebloat 11 1% toppost 4 0% fullquote 2 0% 154 jya(a)pipeline.com toppost 84 35% longlines 34 14% quotebloat 17 7% nlbloat 14 5% bigmedia 2 0% oneliner 2 0% quotedsig 1 0% 151 Rayzer(a)riseup.net nlbloat 54 28% quotebloat 33 17% toppost 28 14% longlines 26 13% quotedsig 6 3% oneliner 2 1% bigmedia 1 0% longsig 1 0% 104 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Putin Documentary by Russian state
by Zenaan Harkness 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

For those who wish to balance their Western media consumption levels. This version contains 8 parts of about 40MiB each, and has the English subtitles inbuilt: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/president-putins-15-years-power-en-su… This a single file version, about 1.5GiB, but no subtitles appear to be available as at today, which is unfortunate since the quality is great, but if you speak Russian, this is the one for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyNcbVuDJyA Enjoy, Zenaan

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Re: Shiny stuff and designer societies
by Shelley 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

On October 28, 2015 8:09:08 AM Lodewijk andré de la porte <l(a)odewijk.nl> wrote: > New threat, this is offtopic. [Snipping as needed. Warning: it is lengthy.] I facepalmed so hard when I read this. I support and agree with both Razer's and Juan's replies to this post; I just didn't want to offend the netiquette-sensitive by posting +1 to both replies. All of these: > I feel like you are ignoring the cost of time, underestimating people's > expenses, and arbitrarily hate cars and meat. > > For most "the latest iCrap" is not a significant expense. 200 euro's a > month or so (phone + laptop) is quite doable, especially given how much > time one spends with iCrap devices. Resale value is nonzero, too, so > really, quite doable. > > I know how to fix/repurpose most things. Actually fixing things often > doesn't compare favorably with just buying a new one - time spent at 10 > euro's per hour makes most repairs very borderline effective. > Totally miss the point. Totally. You seem to be speaking from a position where it sounds like money is the focal point, the most important factor. To me, it is the least important part of the equation. Ever heard of voluntary simplicity? It's a concept I have embraced for all of my adult life. I don't have much money because I don't want it. I don't use many resources because I like to tread lightly upon the earth, and I don't think it's fair if I have an abundance of something while others have none. I'm not a capitalist, never have been nor will I ever be. I agree with Razor's view of capitalism. Juan's, too. Nor do I have a god delusion that lets me shit all over the earth, be horrible to people and do whatever else I want as long as I say the magic words in a prayer and put an offering of filthy lucre in a basket for absolution. This is the only shot I get at not being a totally useless garbage person. My conscience won't allow me to mindlessly consume at the expense of the planet and other people. I'm not sorry for that. One aspect of the human cost of "shiny new crap" has already been pointed out by Razer. I wasn't talking about the monetary cost to you (although paying €200/mo for a phone and laptop is incredibly unnecessary, imho. But I like to have control over the operating systems of my devices, and see no reason to upgrade hardware to newer models if they're in good working order and meeting my needs.) Do you get no sense of personal satisfaction from repairing something that would have gone into a landfill? Or of building something exactly how you want it instead of buying overpriced, pressed particleboard crap that is toxic to both humans and the environment? Where is your hacker ethic, man? > > - Freecycle, trade with others > > Trade what? I do secondhand shopping and selling when appropriate, that > should be good too. > More appropriate is the question, what wouldn't you trade? Things you no longer use or need for something you do. Skills you have, for some your neighbor has (can be as simple as I'll help you repair and paint your porch, you help me sow and plant my garden.) Trading child/ elder/ pet care, shared meals, errands... do you really have no friends or neighbors with whom you do this? > > - Shop at second hand and thrift stores for most things. > > Do, for the things it makes sense for. It takes more effort as you > frequently will not find what you were looking for. (protip: great for > amplifiers and speakers) > The list of what one wouldn't buy secondhand is much shorter. Yes, you can go into the Gap and buy a pair of pants for €70... but why would you want to? So what if it takes me an hour to look through thrift store racks - for that $70, I'd come out with several pairs of perfectly nice pants, skirts, shirts... it's madness. I have a dresser for which I paid $20 at a thrift store, over 20 years ago. It is made of sturdy, solid wood and in excellent condition, has survived cross-country trips and countless local moves. Good luck with your Walmart junk! That hour I "wasted" saving hundreds of $ or € in a thrift store? I'll get it back by using commute time to read and catch up on things while taking the bus or train. You'd be stuck driving in traffic (if you lived in my city; not sure how it is where you live), all stressed out. What I don't buy used: undergarments, pillows, etc. But I won't ever buy them at Walmart, either. > > - Think before you buy. Try to support true fair trade/fair wages and buy > > locally whenever possible. Hint: it's usually possible. > > > Fair trade/wages are determined by the capitalist market, not by me. I'm > simply not that arrogant. If you don't believe in markts you have more work > cut out for you than just buying fair trade branded products. (Protip: > fairtrade is just another way for things to be shiny) No. That's why I said *true* fair trade, a living fucking wage. Not a bag of coffee from a corporate behemoth with a fake stamp on it. Please, tell me you knew that and are just being cheeky? > > Buying local is even more meaningless. If transport costs do not outweigh > production costs, go ferry it in from Australia, China, Chile, etc. You're > making the efficient choice by doing so. > So are you saying that you're okay with people working in slave labor conditions & being paid subhuman wages, polluting the atmosphere by transporting this stuff for thousands of miles... instead of supporting the local businesses in your own community, if the price is right? I can't even answer this. Not without flaming. I can't. > > Public transport or Zip Carring add to stress, cost more time, are not > reliable and are not portable storage. I'd like an electric car, but the > initial purchase is so high it skews things like tax and insurance. > > Idk why you hate cars so much. They're pretty damn useful, give you lots of > freedom and independence, and just help you get around so much better than > public transport. Their prices also compare with other forms of transport. > > (bikes are slow and only really work in villages or compatible cities) > I don't intrinsically hate cars. As was already mentioned, does everyone really need one (or more) of them, though? Your CBA is flawed because, again, you're only thinking of yourself. Your convenience, your money. There is an entire world around you. You could start by cutting back on the amount of damage you do to it. Public transport sucks sometimes, no doubt. Get involved to make it better. It's not wasted time if you use it to read, learn something new, chat with someone, or post random bullshit to public internet lists ;) On nice days, biking is good exercise for those who are able. Most of us don't get enough exercise as it is. > > Preparing my own food is a waste of time, other people are cheaper, mass > production is cheaper, I'm very mediocre at cooking. It is not ANY of these things. Use that time on the bus to learn how to cook basic stuff! Cook on the weekend while hanging out with friends/family or rocking out to music and make your lunches and dinner main dishes for the entire next week. How is that not saving time, money and being good for your health? > > Going vegan is an interesting choice, all evidence points to it being much > much much better for the environment, etc. It is, and much better for your health as well (not to mention, better for the animals!) > but meat is still quite > affordable and quite complimentary to meals. If it truly were 100x easier > on the environment I'd expect to see that in the price, and I hardly do. I > assume there's some sort of sponsoring going on, and until it stops I'll > keep on eating delicious and healthy meat. If the meat industry wasn't subsidized, you'd be paying $20/lb for hamburger. If you're truly interested, read Diet for a New America by John Robbins (who was heir to The Baskin-Robbins ice cream fortune and walked away from it all to lead a vegan, ethical life.) It has America in the title but is applicable to all (we are just among the worst offenders, as with most things.) There are several documentaries that show the horrors of factory farming; I'll list some if you'd like. Not only is it barbaric, it is extremely unhealthy for you. > > Razer mentioned a TV, I don't own one. Razer and Juan answered the rest of this with much more grace than I would. Wouldnt want my "fuck" counter to push me higher on the offensiveness list ;) -Shelley

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strange coincidences - largest ever drugs bust at Rafik Hariri International Airport
by Zenaan Harkness 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Short and sweet with plenty of sarcasm: http://russia-insider.com/en/saudi-prince-arrested-2-tons-delicious-ampheta… The real question, should all drugs be legalised, would that help or hinder the Russian Syrian Iranian effort?

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