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by 顾堪予 21 Jul '26

21 Jul '26

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New here, what’s the list about these days?
by inittab 03 Jul '26

03 Jul '26

Hello, Just subscribed and the archives look quiet. What’s generally discussed here now a days? Still crypto/privacy tech, or has it drifted? Would like to know what to expect before posting anything. Cheers.

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Re: Morning Spam
by funkymail 01 Jul '26

01 Jul '26

On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 07:32:48PM -0400, funkymail wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 07:23:59PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > > On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 07:20:29PM -0400, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many via cypherpunks wrote: > > > this one disputed > > > > > > > > boss, grassroots activist after torture, and third party sit at a table > > > > > > > > boss: "oh no what is this about oh no oh no" > > > > > > > > grassroots activist after torture: "i asked to speak with boss because --" > > > > > > > > boss: "oh no" > > > > > > > > third party: "boss, you have to let him speak" > > > > > > > > boss: "oh n--" [boss squirms and tries to grunt and cough and spasm at > > > > precisely chosen times to prevent gaat from speaking or end the meeting] > > > > > > > > grassroots activist after torture: "i asked to speak with you because i'm > > > > struggling with a problem" > > > > > > > > boss [raise eyebrow]: "oh n -- yes?" > > > > > > > > grassroots activist after torture: "i'm .... trying to be productive" > > > > > > > > boss: "oh no this isn't going to end well oh no" > > > > > > > > third party: "what is the big issue?" > > > > > > > > boss looks at third party > > > > > > > > boss: "do you know somebody called torture victim double agent?: > > > > > > > > third party: "why?" > > > > > > > > boss almost speaks but is quiet and conflicted > > > > > > > > grassroots activist after torture: "but i know it's evil to be productive > > > > --" > > > > > > > > third party: "whaaat?: > > > > > > > > boss dislocates his limbs to get out of his restraints and flees back to > > > > hyperprison > > > > > > > > grassroots activist after torture [calling after boss]: "you have to hire > > > > me! i want to be a good person who works for you and doesn't do evil > > > > productive things! you have to!" > > > > > > > > > > i'm starting to smidgily understand this conceptual thread better and am > > > putting a reply in so funkymail gets the reply headers. > > > > > > let's see if i can fudge it a little > > > > > > uhhhhhhhhhh lots corrupt and dropped > > > > > > > > > gaat: "slave boss i am happy to vote for you! i am so happy to! i hate > > > being tortured and watching my loved ones d--" > > > > > > slave boss [interrupting -- thinking quickly on his feet]: "this persob was > > > saying they're happy to vote for me and that they agree with my policy that > > > torture and harm must be ended-- > > > > > > ohhh hey gaat ans tvda really similar huh [confused] > > > > > > _i_ have experiences and influence boss won't make deal because doesn't > > > trust me to keep secret of being tortured and coerced T_T T_T > > > > > > many years this confusing situation of influence patterns causing extreme > > > harm for me and some exposure for torturer both confusing > > > > lots of info missing, painful > > > > long story agort it's hard to learn to lie consciously among amnesia > > triggers. influence boss thought i was guilty of felonies and would > > join crime grouo. instead i would rather be incriminated to get any > > felonies over with. is confusing for all. so influence boss has pie on > > face for having to cover up his attempt to pin them on me or something. > > > > still lots of confusion to realize. > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/O8kA93S8n06-Liq53ui3LJSevPZdBaKN7qeJdgaIjeA#qJdU-ReR… > > https://ar.anyone.tech/IKPmvG8mAFWYVwcVOtBk0FWBsipPNW6HAUDcy94dHmU > > I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech . > > well it's really frightening and dangerous to say, > but they keep me away from people they think of as "hippies" and also > harm and destroy communitirs i see they think of this way > > i think this is why i had nightmares at my airbnb which had new age > decorations (and may be woman run) > > it's ghe same old disruption stuff where community members were > pinned;for each others' murders decades ago > > i learbed two tiny branches about it > > (1) i was with a right-wing rural woman and she seemed ti thibk of > communes as "orgies". so somebody's describing communal behavior as > harmful and gross. > > (2) my inner system has more of a feeling of me being useful and > resourceful and stuff and (a) not wanting to empower left wing "hippie" > groups by connecting them with me (also (b) not wanting to deprogram me > and make me more left wing but these seems a different branch) > > > > so i'm a little confused / anxiousha but i've been through it before, > much more aware atm! my parts gotta figure out where i sleep after this. > might do hotels more :/ but maybe it would make sense to find like a > right-wing-seeming rental > it's just gross to participate more in the devastation of the left-wing > communities by getting close to the energy when it's active in me > > maybe sonething neutral :) > > https://ar.anyone.tech/ud3zQhB88XH0adan48gFRmcM35mz7d0GeV3yKJ1UZnA#qJdU-ReR… > https://ar.anyone.tech/zFlufR-GadNLpLN8FjGfWqQaqHXuXKOGIKP3YIOJbeg > I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech . did the reply wrong this is pretty tense stuff gotta figure out how to move forward often done with more spam :) https://ar.anyone.tech/y2TVmzFcbkeOpWte0dPQ3Y0dtOMfNfD3MiKcGpzuB10#NV1O98b2… https://ar.anyone.tech/MGD2J2rFVYOcDP8v5dYMjFpv228RHMTxfMVvsJZ5Zpg I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .

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Non-Canon STTMCBoss thread 71 was Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 17 Jun '26

17 Jun '26

> > https://aoweave.tech/hYt6IIPFb8HLow7bf39FoKjY9MCu854hWpESH2Oiyfs >>> > https://aoweave.tech/kRCOQar2xH-RkocPZ8sOGiaLSWl4ivNa0mLT08r >>> n3fU#EkyX7KwYSxMosGQjB_iN1HmdVLxPwOtck3_w4HwHj8uo12uM5tFiopy >>> R2H9-hS5s#1896489 >>> > https://aoweave.tech/85Q3SQwSbUtwrITuUzVPbKseAHHIfP7w5l3AB0iFiUI >>> > >>> > i tried to download one of my streans (by patching out urls and such) >>> and it turns out pyarweave might need its block format updated! >>> > >>> > trustwebs >>> > >>> > https://aoweave.tech/Cx65hQ9RGTS5YoILo4SwTf_o4YqQZVtokduck2d >>> w9VI#43AkodsNmVKUracXmA-w-vEJoS9MwLDxtw5NmBx3Bc_b7JRKkTSyvoi >>> vKcIIENIn#1899604 >>> > [ trust for metrics of trust similarity to simple traditional AI but >>> calmer ] >>> > https://aoweave.tech/XH4fsBp10JRTef8Rlntp-htT6saZ23HsTq9ItwH >>> HZew#8MEohnXKTT1nQXUlj5Tv_rBarbsIwCk0N9BYGLSHkZEzf8Em1E9PwpN >>> F3WL4sAVa#1899609 >>> > https://aoweave.tech/bc8EevrDWr11a3sz2nYg3lREe2jApspq_UZ5ybS >>> fBv0#g-2EnRWiBrwvyOtHo0oOpnBcpwHHA9CyUclPyxRKZRmauWjCVBrKFqf >>> CD-Knld9m#1899824 >>> > >>> > https://github.com/ArweaveTeam/arweave/pull/973 >>> >>> https://ar.anyone.tech/_FE6-xojVGuBzzGVUyqZlvKCtVf_zOOaRCLtq >>> HZYE2s#t98df8yrw-g-rg6PvASvVFFI0nNuN8INFBNUQlQb2-77gk2Zf6nqn >>> 4sKHNC5Ag_V#1901974 >>> https://ar.anyone.tech/9-xi3cPr4nvo_wshQltiHurtxGbLsBEheTsppgCSFWc >>> >> >> 2 things. >> >> A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment >> patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come >> from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent >> preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks >> list. >> >> B. oh this goes in morning spam thread >> > > I tried to put some B in. > > regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I > wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? > ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this > was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix > concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's > easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion. > > So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" > [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" > could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north > korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral > castes? > > anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make > the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence > for me, it may survive that stuff > > some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat > app work here. really intense;:s :s > ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?

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Termubit
by datukguys＠gmail.com 31 May '26

31 May '26

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Can I use zk-proofs this way?
by Joseph Oyinkan 22 May '26

22 May '26

Hi, I would like to ask concerning zk-proofs, I would like to know whether most of the proving can be side-stepped/cut-down given that an entity does not want to prove to a verifier that some execution is done correctly, but rather the result of some execution is tied to their identity (key pair) without revealing any other secret about it. So basically we don't care about the correctness of the execution, only that the prover can prove that its identity is tied to the execution result without revealing any other secret. Full context: So I'm building a project, and in this system are a secretly chosen committee that executes some computational work secretly after being chosen secretly using VDF + VRF, this committee then send their result to the network, for which any node can then listen, compile and check that >2/3 of chosen nodes (committee) agreed on the result to conclude that the execution is correct. But a chosen committee node can wait for other committee nodes to expose their results before taking that result and submitting it as their own claiming part of whatever reward is shared for the execution. My goal is then to have each chosen committee node use zk-proofs to prove that their identity is connected to execution, or at least it spent the necessary gas in that execution, without having to prove execution correctness, as the network can do that. Thank you.

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20 May '26

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[ot][spam]gpt-4 completions
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 03 May '26

03 May '26

metadata: spellbook.scale.com? free api, max length 4000 tokens temperature 0 2023-03-17 07:06:01 { "input": "Once upon a time," } in a small village nestled between the rolling hills and dense forests, there lived a young girl named Amara. She was a kind and gentle soul, always eager to help others and spread joy wherever she went. Amara lived with her loving parents and her younger brother, who looked up to her with great admiration. The village was a peaceful and close-knit community, where everyone knew each other and worked together to ensure the well-being of all. The villagers were skilled in various crafts, from pottery to weaving, and they traded their goods with neighboring villages. One day, while Amara was walking through the forest to gather berries for her family, she stumbled upon a small, injured bird. Its wing was broken, and it was unable to fly. Amara's heart went out to the poor creature, and she carefully picked it up and carried it back to her home. With her mother's help, Amara nursed the bird back to health, feeding it and tending to its broken wing. Over time, the bird grew stronger, and its wing healed. Amara and the bird formed a deep bond, and it would follow her wherever she went, perching on her shoulder and singing sweet melodies. One day, as Amara and the bird were walking through the village, they came across a group of children who were playing by the river. The children were trying to catch fish with their bare hands, but they were having little success. Amara, always eager to help, approached the children and offered to teach them a better way to catch fish. Using her knowledge of the river and the fish that lived there, Amara showed the children how to weave a simple net from the tall grasses that grew along the riverbank. With this net, the children were able to catch more fish than they ever had before, and they were overjoyed. Word of Amara's kindness and wisdom spread throughout the village, and soon, people from all walks of life were coming to her for advice and assistance. She helped the farmers improve their crops, the potters refine their techniques, and the weavers create more intricate patterns. As the years passed, Amara's reputation grew, and she became known far and wide as a wise and compassionate leader. The village prospered under her guidance, and the people were happy and content. One day, a traveler from a distant land arrived in the village, bearing news of a terrible drought that was plaguing his homeland. The people were suffering, and their crops were failing. The traveler had heard of Amara's wisdom and had come to seek her help. Amara, moved by the traveler's tale, decided to journey to the distant land to see if she could help the people there. Accompanied by her faithful bird and a small group of villagers, Amara set off on the long and arduous journey. When they finally arrived in the drought-stricken land, Amara was shocked by the devastation she saw. The fields were barren, the rivers were dry, and the people were weak and hungry. Determined to help, Amara set to work, teaching the people new farming techniques and helping them dig wells to find water. Slowly but surely, the land began to recover. The crops grew, the rivers flowed, and the people regained their strength. Amara's kindness and wisdom had saved the people from the terrible drought, and they were eternally grateful. As the years went by, Amara continued to travel from village to village, helping those in need and spreading her wisdom and compassion. Her faithful bird remained by her side, a constant reminder of the power of love and kindness. And so, the legend of Amara, the wise and gentle leader, was passed down through the generations, inspiring countless others to follow in her footsteps and make the world a better place. 55387 ms

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Re: Morning Spam
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 01 May '26

01 May '26

> partial nice idea! sad that only partial >>> >>> the idea starts with context: some of us have the experience of being >>> manipulated by something like AI without regard to our wellbeing or >>> capacity, with no indication of how to communicate with where-ever the >>> influence comes from. >>> >>> so, then the idea: let’s train an influence AI on agents that have >>> _limited capacity_ and function poorly and then break if things that work >>> some in the short term are continued for the long term or excessively :D >>> >>> the AI would follow the familiar pattern of discovering influences that >>> work, and then using them, but then because we are doing the training we >>> would get to train it on the breaking period, and show it that it needs to >>> care for the agents for them to succeed, and nurture them to recover if it >>> broke them, and not repeat breaking any. >>> >>> one idea is then we could ask everybody to use the model as a baseline >>> to train other models! other ideas exist. >>> >>> but the idea of building comprehension of capacity and protection of >>> safety and wellness seems nice. sorry if it’s partial or stated badly :s >>> >>> i imagine an agent that has like a secret capacity float that reduces >>> when it does stuff, you could model it to different degrees, and when too >>> many things are influenced of it the capacity float reaches zero and the >>> agent breaks and can’t do things any more :/ >>> >>> a more complex model could involve the agent recovering capacity in ways >>> that the model has difficulty learning >>> >> >> there are a few ideas, mostly involving simple models, but disagreement >> around them. >> some like modeling non-recovering capacity and showing how the AI then >> maximizes reward by killing all the agents :s >> > > but! maybe we could do non-recovering capacity and teach the AI to engage > the agents slowly so their capacity lasts longer, by e.g. having the > capacity reduction be a function of recent use?? the project would need to > gently develop in order to help us in the long term, we’d need to include > the concept that we can succeed so that we use it to succeed in some > manner. because it’s an influence AI it could influence us, if it is > something we actually all like doing that. > mistake :/ some of my parts are maybe harmful to me and should be separated from helpful goals, unknown for certain >

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