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by brian carroll 14 Sep '13

14 Sep '13

// attempt to block-out the text, clarify a few points, provide examples, more ideas... --- re: transparent ziplock example --- In the previous post addendum [1] the following link was provided for artwork that demonstrates a most immediate aspect for how "cryptography" can function within everyday language situations in a realm of mutable signs and symbolism. transparent ziplock with acid written on it, yellow letters inside, by Ray Geary (?) http://vapidforever.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Acid-241x300.jpg Here is a quick viewpoint for how it might or could be read, whether or not the intended meaning; (basically it potentially involves superposition as the letters could be in different positions of rearrangement (ACID) given their movement in the bag, so chaos or arbitrariness are inherent)... the off-kilter AC could reference 'alternating current', referencing a back and forth movement in relation to power, [if not also air conditioner], the letters I and D could ping the idea of 'the id' which is a dark realm of the psyche where subterfuge may exist and their backwards reading, Defense Intelligence. Likewise the letters C and I could relate to counterintelligence (CI) and intelligence community (IC). The 'C' and 'I' could be put back together into a second capital letter D which would change the four letters to three, leaving ADD as another potential. This in a context of acid as mentioned in the previous post about ushering in armageddon, forcing splits, etc, as the context for 'variables' and their meaning, grounded or not. If you think about it though, the assumption of a secure "brown paper bag" instead being an insecure "transparent ziplock bag" - including with its contents on the outside as a 'signage' - it has interesting corollary to issues of both a false encryption regime, which essentially ramps up the paranoia level, though also the jumbled letters may also signify more could be occurring than simply a repetition or A:A relation between what the signage says (ACID) and the contents (A,C,I,D) in their structurally detached 'linear' state. For instance, a search of the Internet Anagram Server for the word ACID only provides two possibilities for rearranging the original meaning using these same letters, the original word itself (ACID) and (CAD I). And yet just looking at acronyms or other 'known' cultural examples - shared libraries of knowledge or understanding as it were - then opens up other levels of interpretative possibility. In this way, concepts such as counterintelligence, defense intelligence, intelligence community, alternating (power) current, the id, who knows- AI and DC even further, then potentially "decrypt" actual meaning or relevance to what it may mean if the supposed security of encryption is knowingly subverted and yet the lies are being sold as a mainstream perspective- and what that may result in, in terms of a transparency within "security products" and industry. It probably is a lot more involved than this, such that there could be levels or layers to encryption that exist beyond 'the letters' in the transparent envelope, which is assumed what is actually happening in a double-model where security does exist, yet is invisible and extends beyond the signs as delivered, carrying placards "this is a secret". So perhaps counterintelligence is built-into encryption, as a trapdoor and some other encryption approach functions as a failsafe within that, yet unidentified or unmediated using the same approaches, algorithms or conceptual communication channels. Which was the point about language, though likewise could extend into different mathematics that take 'the message' received upon decrypt or before decrypting, and decrypt otherwise. In other words, the artwork provides example that the external 'sign' read by surveillers and the transparent package contents could be assumed A=A, whereby ACID=ACID and it is of finite meaning as a decrypted message, whereas if the label (ACID) and the contents could be interpreted beyond this via A=B analysis, the message may not be decrypted if the assumption remains the inside meaning is bounded only at ACID, and not involving AC, CI, IC, DI, ID, DC, ADD, etc. Another aspect would be if noise was added such that a number 1 replaced the capital i, as the label and contents, and then "keyword" software may never consider ACID as the word or other connections, due to a category error, such that the set {ACD,1} may not be interpreted that way machinically, if not programmed for this basic substitution, and thus AC, DC may result though nothing like CI, IC, DI, ID, which would bound potential meaning as a result. Whereas these substitutions could be obvious for a person who is on the lookout or reads this way, such that texts can function like puzzles and if in a context of secret communications, can be solved or resolved via such methods. It seems then an issue of *how do you know* what is a correct interpretation? And that is again like cloud-code, scrying, crystal ball skills involving the revealing of patterns as they align with other structures, and find grounding. The decrypt, whether from another person or 'psychic intelligence' tapped out of noosphere, relies upon the observer and their state of being, sane to insane, and how well they are grounded in truth, or reliant upon falsity, and how this interpretation either is stable and reliable or destabilizes and leads to paranoia and self-destruction by not having the skills to mediate ideas from within noisefields, like a Random Event Generator or scrying device. A high-risk thus could be involved and without a solid foundation in truth it could lead to significant problems in thinking, with high likelihood of losing mental grasp with day to day existence, and thus promoting a schizoid condition via unanswered or assumed perspectives, the hall of mirrors of wrong assumptions, and all the private chaos that could generate and also be noticeable to others, as a person goes off the deep end into la la land or no man's land, a point of no return, which can lead to extreme behavior, justifications, etc. Thus the issue of limits of interpretation and personal limits of awareness, could cause one person to immediate violent action due to unresolved, unlivable mental conditions whereas another may be able to think or understand beyond that boundary and continue functioning. So the psychic snap effect is likely related to a threshold of awareness and understanding, the ability to find and attain grounding in a world of subversion and locate a path to continued existence. This would be especially interesting if those who realize they are trapped then are provided an opening, turned, via these same means, because there is really no way out of it once captured within the labyrinth. It is final. Another cultural reference, somewhat analogous is Johnny Carson's repeated skits of Carnac the Magnificent, where he takes a sealed envelope and holds it up to his head while wearing huge turban (perhaps secret tech inside) and derives an answer for a question via psychic investigation of the contents, which then is tested against the actual question in the envelope, opened and recited, completing the joke. Johnny Carson as "Carnac" from 1974 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x802iz_johnny-carson-as-carnac-from-1974_f… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnac_the_Magnificent This appears in some way equivalent to a false encryption scheme (via psychic key escrow perhaps) that allows encrypted communications to be accessed and read remotely yet appear secure and untouched. Perhaps this root access or god-like access would be assumed in any scenario of civilization in a context of power struggles, how could it feasibly not be, and yet perhaps a further consideration would be *malice* and misuse of this potential, versus a beneficence, watchful eye, protecting aspect. That could equate to *trust government* at some point, yet what if the government interfaced is venal, corrupt, contemptuous of human values and no longer serving the citizenry.. or more specifically- only their private citizenry. In such a case, the false encryption could bound or trap their activities within it, while allowing them to monitor enemies using the same technology, and so the ultimate setup scenario could exist via and within the corruption. The nightmare of state, by comparison to comedy skit, would be if a person could query the ur database of secrets at any time, get an answer, and use it against you for their personal and shared group advantage, for an antihuman agenda. There are indications this is actually what is going on, including with blacklists, and it is wide in the open, businesses and organizations micropoliticized, 'standing armies' even within workforces, conflicts mediated by control over accounting spreadsheets and expenditures, who gets access or moves ahead and who is sidelined, versus overt violence. Soft war, balkanization, though also Vietnam War fracturing, taking of sides, forcing splits and oppositional dynamics within daily environments and interactions. And then these kinds of activities, supported by supposedly 'secure' encryption involved as infrastructure and the "complexity" of that, all computers, their obfuscatory aspects that can be both a hinder and a help if the subversion or false floors are built-into the code regime, and when triggered for collapse, impaling ideological adherents in response. Related to this would be psychic activity as a basis for shared relations, as it relates to shared knowledge or secret communications, versus those who are not like this. Perhaps the toxic pollutive wi-fi blanketing environments is a countermeasure, to short-circuit the atmosphere, fill it with thick signals of electromagnetic fog to disorient the tuning of interconnection even. Such that not only is it promoting long term EMF side-effects of cancer, the wireless radio and computer and cellphone signals are jamming and blocking the mind from functioning, both inside and between individuals and the larger group, in additional to animal life, including colony collapse of bees, etc. What is not active covert warfare about these crimes against nature and humanity? Instead, "bureaucratic language" can choose to only validate and interpret one side of the issue (binary bias) that sides with the same technocratic agenda as delivered by scientists and technologists, made standard, made a basis for profit and 'the economy' that is functioning against humans and the earth itself. And because both the role of electromagnetism in this situation is actively censored out of existence and because "logic" itself has been removed from education entirely, such that relativistic pseudo-truth based on authoritative control has essentially become the means for dictatorial power, that *no feedback is possible* to correct these mechanisms because they are actually part of the masterplan, decades if not centuries old and underway, to defeat humanity. So what if observers are not even allowed to think, allowed to freely observe, and a natural state of being even becomes criminalized (in some way perhaps related to anarchists and libertarian issues or policy views here). What if that state or corporate agenda actually diminishes a society's health and vast many peoples ability to think or relate in a *sane context* versus an insane, unstable, toxic, sick, unhealthy, oppressive environment. Think kindergarteners who go to then go to the same gradeschool and junior high for 8 more years, sitting in classrooms for hours a day, in direct proximity to a massive active cellphone tower that is without question bathing them in sickness inducing toxic radiation* via long-term exposure- and that likewise, people in apartments are likewise criminally exposed to such hazards, by design. What allows *words* to have so little shared meaning that the truth involved can be removed from the signs, via legal -protection clauses- (security), and cannot be related back to truth, to defeat the scam? People are literally dying and being made deathly ill, for profit, by the obfuscatory approach-- like that transparent ziplock, the evil planning agenda, and yet nothing is or can be done to stop it apparently because LOGIC is absent from reasoning, people are illiterate and unable to communicate about what is actually going on as the situation has been made ever-more 'variable' via relativism, you can choose what to believe and have a friction-free lifestyle versus consider other humans, the results of decisions. And thus Babel fully realized, complete incoherence of worldview and local observation, everything is skew, warping and distortion- all of it as simple as the Binary Code Regime allows. It does not exist, just keep believing in the false perspective, stay within the herd that is benefiting and surviving- you can be one of them if only you let go of your delusions. (*not to mention interaction between EMFs and cellular signals and industrial chemicals in the body, breakdown of cells, and relation with psychiatric and other pills which can trigger other effects; obesity, diabetes, cancers, skin problems, and other issues potentially connected to electromagnetically saturated and compromised environs.) It reeks of Fahrenheit 451 dynamics, say the wrong thing, think the wrong thought, share or relate in the wrong dynamics and an alarm goes off somewhere to justify a potential security response that likely involves breaking into your computer, remotely monitoring everything you do, going through all health, education, banking records in a context of "terrorism" or potential enemy of the state, future citizen criminal evaluation, that can also be used as a map for take-down and behavioral and social engineering, suddenly you lose your mate, lose your job, cannot get rehired, etc. Blacklisting would be expected if there is unchecked power, carte blanche to take down enemies of a hidden dictatorial agenda. That is, a private takeover advantaged by a onesided viewpoint that is governing the security state via its corrupt ideology. A public takedown of humans, so there is no longer any illusion of having control, it is a charade and masquarade and at some point the liars will need to be counted in the same way they are counting everyone else. A double encryption scheme could account for this, say a next level standard that is 'not exploited' yet similarly backdoored and trapdoored. Further, basic dwelling as embassy. Whether in-built systems or dual-use off the shelf consumer electronics made to TSCM tap, say wireless speaker systems-- what surveiller could ask for more, unless of course including trance-inducing or hypnotizing technology as part of the arrangement. There are probably 50 ways within every domicile if not more to fully keep track of people, from relaying of printer and scanner data to viewing through TVs or listening through radios, to siphoning data through mice, keyboards, USB drives especially, routers, as if there is no limit even, and this likely possible remotely without resources on-site or locally. Plus the technology itself is toxic and in its design specifications, EMF-wise, the emissions can cause illness and disease, yet they are not identified as such- so completely onesided the 'reality' involved. And who benefits? Those making and making a living off of this death-machine and those who serve its agenda without considering the sell out and consequences. It seems for some it is a known pogrom with genocidal intent, which they live to support, through normalized doublespeak and cloaked similarity while polarized, pressing onward. Reason does not work when people do not observe truth, the antireason crowd has the debate, they own this crooked language, law, state, its policies of mediocrity. And it is as if no one is the wiser because of the silence, and thus the *alarm* when someone actually says something 1:1 about this situation-- SECURITY ALERT! SECURITY ALERT! -- as if even constitutional rights are a threat to the state now, because it ruins the party going on for the group benefiting from and building out the false perspective. Hollywood must be involved, it is just too perfect, too fictional, too much like a stage set, yet for the ignorant they may not realize the difference, as it confirms 'true beliefs'. Thus likely it is part of a long-ago strategy, this then the big reveal, curtains opened on the security theater, its players on stage, before the proscenium, taking on their critical roles in the performance- voicing their rehearsed lines, going through the scripted motions as required of the social engineering, whether at grocery store or in government positions, making decisions one by one that influence things for their betterment, undermining culture and civilization in the process, all the while smiling or smug, a self righteousness afforded most to the ideological carried as a scent, fingerprint on the bounded limited psyche, these, the self-same lot those grabbing cellphones and pointing directly at others- diagnostic scans of the borg, counting, monitoring, 'watching' as all-seeing private eyes, tallying elsewhere their observation into warped skew of shared view, corrupt yet to them - divine, highest, a view of privilege and entitlement, everyone else stealing from them, selfish, undeserving, while they dismantle civilization itself, their end game is ending humanity, a rationalists conceit, believing themselves smartest on the block- oh how that had to be fun to set this whole cosmic takedown up... The pain of living through it, centuries upon centuries, something different, though ultimately it will be worthwhile to rid the world of the plague of such a deceit-filled organization. (It is like the model where the Devil is the greatest servant of God, leading the unbelievers to their demise, the ultimate double cross and sacrifice unimaginable to most all yet ultimately of shared love and commitment to truth. Versus, say, the 'real devil' who sees themselves as the real leader of unbelievers, himself the false God, their king, etc. It fits the terrorism/security model quite well, actually. "Bomb plans on the internet- here's the link... hell, here are 5,012,202 links to sundry and unsound activities... go for it!") --- literacy in relation to truth --- It is proposed that there is mass illiteracy in the culture, as part of this overall design for its takeover, that has subverting the reasoning process to that of behavioral science and its methods as a form of social control via pavlovian conditioning. Bad thought! leading to "no think" via pills, therapies, conditioning. Contra, bad thoughts everywhere via advertisement, forgetting values and exploiting urges and instincts, making populations animalistic in relations and self-evaluation. So a question such as how an individual relates to a situation may be assumed they have a foundational understanding and awareness that was once cultivated in the education system though has further and further become detached from the lived reality (especially its technological escape velocity from any known documentation explaining what exactly _is going on, in the terms it actually exists). And thus expecting that people are operating at truth (1) and accurate observation for relations could be largely mistaken for most of the population, and thus 'groups' and individuals could be building their consensus around more what amounts to shared lies or shared warped views that include and rely upon errors to support their limited thinking and frameworks, which could be spoon fed to them via news and talkshows and popular communications. In this way, relation could occur in a vast context of falsity (0) to start with, and some very minor truth may occur what is effectively a false world view that only locally finds grounding in some accurate, temporal way. For instance, "I am married" instead of "My spouse is a robot" or imposter in the nightmare scenario, whereas for others this may be for them utopia. And movies and books have made critical contributions to recontextualizing the present, such as the Matrix and Truman Show as related to living within a simulation, or cyberpunk literature or other bridge-building between views, as these go back into old and ancient ideas, and issues of whether they are surface interpretations or find grounding in relation to the foundation of knowledge, via logical reasoning, and referencing and accounting for shared beliefs in terms of ones and zeros, hypotheses necessarily removed of errors. Yet holier than thou dogmas occur and lifestyles emerge, the cult of culture, where entire scenes are based on the shallow superficial *image* and the actuality can become yet another alphabet for letters, words, and sentences, more diary-based activities, more like a theme park of state, carnival rides than deep investigations- as if getting tattoos is the signifier for a meaningful life, versus doing things that correspond to those tattoos beyond mere consumption and trend following. Thus the image of the thing, and the thing itself, and issues of copies, copies of copies, and dilution of truth into something ultimately opposite, ideological, dissimilar. What once may have had truth or "literacy" as it were, instead becomes in some sense "illiterate" and removed of its original truth and conditions for existence, if not devolved.\ Personal Computers and networking for public citizens from homebrew to Dumb Terminals in service to the Corporate Terror State and the global junk drawer, hand over your passport, drivers license, health and banking records, all private documents, secrets, and we will let you continue to login in and use the network for hedonistic pleasures. Thus questions related to a security model based on shared/unshared communications, and various combinations... a. illiterate <-----> illiterate b. literate <-----> illiterate c. literate <-----> literate In 'shared illiteracy' there could be a shared false POV that functions as truth (T) yet is only pseudo (pT) that tends towards falsity (0). This could be exploited in crypto whereby the sign=sign yet it is a deception, thus the decrypt is what is expected though a false perspective, thus relaying and serving up B=B though believed to be A. In the asymmetrical, doubling aspects of true and false could co-exist, various siphoning, whereby literate could coexist within A & B views, rely on A while sharing a false view of B as the relation with the illiterate via bounded, threshold interaction, so from the illiterate side B=B would be the only reality shared in the exchange. In this way distortion, warp, skew function as camouflage by reinforcing ideological bias, perhaps itself a form of conditioning via confirming bias, no questions, no new answers. Also, feedback from B could occur, thus pulling information out of exchange, like animal training perhaps, this probably normal for most exchanges in terms of manipulations within some dimensions, whether business or personal. And then assumption of A=A relations in relations and communication exchange within shared grounded truth (1) that may have some errors (A=B) yet be identifiable, recognized, within the involved dimensions. This is to clarify, in contrast to the first example of shared illiteracy that while shared literacy 'shares truth' it still would be of the domain of pseudo-truth (pT), the difference being that it tends towards 1 (absolute truth) and not 0 (falsity), unlike shared views of illiteracy that are ungrounded and continue to detach from whatever may correct the viewpoint, increase the understanding, etc, because it may not be ideologically necessary, even. Then to consider "encryption" and crypto in a such a context of actual intelligence and ignorance of varying degrees and dimensions, that again may shift given context. A very smart person could be highly literate in binary code and programming (c) yet in terms of intelligence in a larger realm be incompetent (a) and both of these occupy an issue such as secret communication and secure exchange, such that they may "believe" crypto is secure on ideological grounds due to belief in technology yet without considering the ideas and thinking beyond that context, due to illiteracy of ideas, thinking, conceptualization, that could then be exploited in an unshared situation (b) whereby the asymmetrical pseudo-truth shared exchange can be exploited... pT(1) <-----> pT(0) whereby: pT(A/B) <-----> pT (B) In essence leading to a falsed shared state of the second observer in shared falsity (B), tending to zero, and allowing the first observer to double in a contained accurate view (A) while feeding and interacting in a false view of B. The pseudo-truth of the first tending toward truth, and the second toward falsity, yet perceived as if a shared state by the latter in an asymmetrical relation due to 'not knowing' what they do not know or remain unaware of, via bias, threshold, limitations. And thus errors, skew, warping, distortion relied upon as structures can be security exploits. 1<=A|B=>0 <===crypto===> B=>0 Note: a shared viewpoint of pseudo-truth thus could be shared by observers one and two, where for the latter it appears both share the same reality (0) even though it tends towards falsity, where from their perspective it defaults to absolute truth, if uncritical ideology is confirmed, though for the former this could be known, a deception, and thus knowingly misinforming while functioning in a realm of truth (1) beyond this interaction. In this way, the first observer could even send a message to the second which is decrypted, verified as 'secret' and send this further down the line, which could still be encoded or encrypted, should it encounter another who is of the shared 'shared awareness' or literacy, whether human or machine, and therefore if the view was hidden it could bypass or go beyond the observer (say surveiller) via the bounded interpretation or knowledge, and yet still be deciphered by some other observer down the line. Perhaps this most possibly in a context of ignorance or more advanced approaches, beyond the capacity of the second observer to gain any clues about via observation. It would thus seem that 'zoning' and 'tiered access' whether hidden or unhidden could relate to this issue of "perspective", a holographic quality even given access, angle, or dimensional perch. Maybe this is sliding scale and is about more/less knowledge, thus literacy and more literacy, that paradoxical back and forth, so that in certain views if deception it would actually be true that B is the higher state, say the Binary Crypto Regime, where those adhering to standard A are viewed illiterate by their dissimilarity or incapacity even, and thus strong crypto (knowingly false) is knowingly presented and sold this way (B=A) as a deception, yet via an ideology founded on pseudo-truth, lies, such that their ungrounded A=A equations and assessments tend toward zero by default, when outside their limits of control, and ability to govern over its action and interpretation. Thus the importance of maintaining and exploiting illusions. --- more on pseudo-truth -- Without spelling it out entirely, beyond 1<A|B>0 as an approximation, it is to suggest that in ordinary, normal reasoning processing reliant upon truth and logical evaluation via empirical structures, shared grounding in some sense of observation removed of errors as the standard, that the ability to ignore this leads to illiteracy and ungrounded belief, *faith* in what can amount to falsehood or inaccurate views due to lack of rigor, accountability, and built-in ignorance in terms of not knowing as a part of being, and the role of learning in moving from less truth to more truth over time, via cybernetic feedback and improved decision-making and observational capacity slash awareness. If education is short-circuited, this improvement process via critical evaluation may be broken within individuals and then their group relations in society, also with family deterioration. If debate is short-circuited due to ungrounded relativism and their being 'no need to see things similarly', as is the subjective default, then faith can take over and people can choose what to believe based on its profit to their immediate sensibility. Thus a potential for relation could exist in that each person has a capacity for some ignorance and some intelligence, or relies on some falsity and some truth within their observational frameworks... A|B <=====> A|B In this model A is assumed to be pseudo-truth tending towards truth (1) and B is towards falsity (B). A <=====> A In a grounded ~empirical resolution of shared observation, contingent truth via tested hypotheses would enable 'shared truth' to exist in A=A relations between two observers, and this could be the result of logical evaluation and debate. The plague that is relativistic ideology breaks this process, and allows ungrounded observation to exist as if A, without removal of errors, and thus 'unshared A' which may only be hypothetical and untested and uncorrected outside its controlled private boundaries, based upon "theoretical" beliefs, heavily invested in a binary worldview as its intellectual justification, cherry-picking data that confirms the viewpoint and ignoring the role of falsification and error-correction as part of the process of grounding ideas... A (1) <===/ /===> A (0) Everything is equal, unless the false-viewpoint is in control, say of education, then 'truth' (1) can be censored out and presented as 'illegal thinking', while the false view actually is reliant upon and moving towards falsity (pt=>0) and is actually an A=B situation, though disallows debate that has facts and argument indicating B=B is the actual substance of the corrupted observation. And thereby discourse must stop, and the default machine progression of institutional ideas thus favors this closed-ideological approach or 'theoretical observation' that is inherently ungrounded, untested, and essentially reliant upon and promoting a fiction for the shared reality to which others must conform to proceed within institutions of learning and education, which function against ideas, against learning, and against society in their day to day agendas, except insofar as it benefits those who serve the goals of this subversive agenda, who then likely are doubles and very smart yet duplicitous or extremely ignorant and selfish. A -----> A|B The function of debate in terms of feedback has been to provide empirical and observational oversight to ideas, such that panoptic qualities of additional views of a situation can often held refine the limited perspective, and therefore any observation of error (A=B) could be recognized and corrected. A <-----> A In this way, empirical resolution and refinement can 'improve' ideas via shared observation and this can be a back and forth encounter between one observer and another or one observer and many, or many with many- the belief in bugs and eyeballs, which seems opposite of where the code is at these days in terms of sensible understanding. That is the bugs are normalized, errors prolific and rife and relied upon, the beast of antisecurity making its fortune on the pT=T exploit now a structure of the technology, this protected even by subverted law, ah how language has become detached from its reliance and verification in truth by the relativistic mindset and its beliefs. unbelievable, the extent of the corruption, making its way into nervous systems and reprogramming people to believe and serve lies via brain washing and other methods of indoctrination. A|B <====> A|B The potential for debate then is that each side has some truth and falsity, and if ungrounded these 'shared observations' in pseudo-truth via relativistic frameworks can lead to 'shared falsity' that tends towards zero, in terms of the sliding scale, where "ideas" communicated are reliant upon scaffoldings of wrong assumptions, errors, flawed thinking and beliefs, skew and bias, such that whatever contingent truth may exist and be shared, it would be reliant on massive falsity to communicate and share and thus exist only as a minor aspect, homeopathic amounts, a tincture within a much larger frame of flawed observation, and this normalized as the basis for exchange. B <=====> B In this way 'shared truth' could instead, if ungrounded and reliant on the errors for its structure and sustenance, be *believed* true (1) yet actually be so minor and reliant on false belief and wrong assumptions that the pseudo-truth tends towards falsity overall, if taking into account the context needed to sustain the truth, its container of other ideas and thinking, most likely flawed ~ideology that no longer asks question and relies on previous answers or a particular observation becomes solidified as 'the POV', thus limiting the questions to a finite, skewed model that requires its errors to be continued as a viewpoint, keeping opposite views outside, allowing false utopia to exist inside. Whereas if partial truth is accessed in an accurate framework, this same contingent aspect of discerning what is real and actual and existent via observation can be removed of errors via debate, and what is true can be separated from what is false. A <====> A Thus observers could validate the same truth (A=A) while simultaneously recognizing the errors in this condition (B=B) and thus instead of relying on the errors, discard them or learn from them, yielding what is accurate from the forces of skew, warping, and distortion as force fields aligning with disconnected truth yet not relying on these as if they are themselves unfettered truth, which relativists allow and require and celebrate-- THE BULLSHIT basically. In the above example, as a situation moves from A|B --> A, via logical reasoning of grounded empirical observation, pT=>T, and falsity is removed from the process of shared communication as a structural framework. Subvert logical reasoning, disallow it, including freedom of speech and thinking and censoring and controlling what facts are allowed - controlling POV - then the opposite occurs: B ---> A, such that pT => T This is the crypto exploit of the Binary Code Regime, where B=A(0) and pT(0)=>T(1) And it is the same ideological 'code' used as an authoritarian means of control over debate, to stop error-correction and install a false POV as the shared false 'empiricism' whereby truth is ignored, logical reasoning disallowed, facts censored, views onesided, and right answers based on 'authority' - power over ideas, versus ideas themselves. In this way, ~Enronomics goes beyond accounting for Sokal Hoax of financialization and into classrooms and minds everywhere, engineering 'shared pseudo-truth' => 0. It must be said also that 'bullying' and the ego of the oppressor oftentimes is part of this relation, pT>T, and likewise B>A, and goes hand in hand with the bullshit regime, and in this way intimidation or the need of the powerful to let the oppressed know they are superior is a security lapse, revealing what hides behind the facade of security theater. Thus false POVs, vanity, egotism, sadism, and flawed assumptions of observers should not be discounted as security threats, weaknesses or strengths for hack/crack attacks. And this is certainly accounted for already, though it seemingly is not being accounted for in ideas themselves, their truth (1) in a shared empirical framework. Thus what if crypto is protecting or reliant upon bad ideas and yet this is not being accounted for due to social issues or non-mathematical variables of a civilization in ruin?

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"FBI Admits It Controlled Tor Servers Behind Mass Malware Attack"
by Gregory Foster 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

Wired (Sep 13) - "FBI Admits It Controlled Tor Servers Behind Mass Malware Attack" by @kpoulsen: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/freedom-hosting-fbi/ gf -- Gregory Foster || gfoster(a)entersection.org @gregoryfoster <> http://entersection.com/

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FLYINGPIG // Tor
by Rich Jones 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

Screenshots from FLYINGPIG interface show a tab for "Tor events QFD" http://www.scribd.com/doc/166821334/FlyingPig Any more details out there? Bruce: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/new_nsa_leak_sh.html R

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Re: [Cryptography] Matthew Green on BULLRUN: briefly censored
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> ----- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:23:29 -0700 From: John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> To: cryptography(a)metzdowd.com Subject: Re: [Cryptography] Matthew Green on BULLRUN: briefly censored > http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/on-nsa.html Johns Hopkins University censored this exact blog post by Prof. Green, because of a complaint from its local defense contractor affiliated with NSA, the Applied Physics Laboratory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_Physics_Laboratory) The university gets slight credit for backtracking one day after the censorship story hit Twitter and the press. So the blog post is now back (and is still worth reading). Here's the story: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/10/nsa-matthew-green-take… http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130909/11193024453/johns-hopkins-tells-s… http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/crypto-prof-asked-to-remove-nsa-rel… http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/a-note-on-nsa-future-and-fi… Now, why is it that so many folks with links to NSA think like totalitarians? It's wonderful seeing them crawl out of the woodwork and try to give orders to the public about what it is allowed to think, what it is allowed to read, and what it is allowed to write. It's only wonderful because the huge public counter-reaction protects us -- the totalitarians reveal their true colors, but they don't actually get to tell us what to do. Thank you, fellow denizens of the world, for creating your own freedom, by making a lot of noise when some NSA-affiliated idiot tries to take it away. John PS: How much NSA tax money does JHU's Applied Physics Lab get? I don't know, but here's a guy on LinkedIn who worked at NSA in the past, works at the Lab today, and brags that he's managing a $120M contract from NSA: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-trent/18/a95/b04 _______________________________________________ The cryptography mailing list cryptography(a)metzdowd.com http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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Re: [Freedombox-discuss] CAs and cipher suites for cautious servers like FreedomBox
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Keith <keith(a)fernie.eu> ----- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:41:22 +0100 From: Keith <keith(a)fernie.eu> To: Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> Cc: freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] CAs and cipher suites for cautious servers like FreedomBox X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 PFS with snakeoil works. Trying it out here https://snakeoil.cf Using Apache 2.4 on a server running Jessie, it looks reasonable using just the default ciphers of SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM:!aNULL:!MD5. Open to tweaking SSLCipherSuite. Now trying pfs for Postfix, will this email actually use it? On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 08:01 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 04:44:31PM +0100, Keith wrote: > > With a CA on each freedombox there need not be a requirement for a > > server. > > > > If my understanding of Tor is right, it is designed for anonymity, not > > encryption, should not need a CA for this. > > Can you get PFS with snakeoil (I presume these are generated during > the installation, is there at all enough entropy at that time so > this is safe?) certs? > > Postfix and dovecot in newer versions can do PFS: > http://www.heinlein-support.de/blog/security/perfect-forward-secrecy-pfs-fu… > _______________________________________________ > Freedombox-discuss mailing list > Freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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[cryptography] motivation, research ethics & organizational criminality (Re: Forward Secrecy Extensions for OpenPGP: Is this still a good proposal?)
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Adam Back <adam(a)cypherspace.org> ----- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:10:07 +0200 From: Adam Back <adam(a)cypherspace.org> To: David D <david(a)7tele.com> Cc: cryptography(a)randombit.net Subject: [cryptography] motivation, research ethics & organizational criminality (Re: Forward Secrecy Extensions for OpenPGP: Is this still a good proposal?) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) I suspect there may be some positive correlation between brilliant minds and consideration of human rights & ability to think independently and critically including in the area of uncritical acceptance authoritarian dictates. We're not talking about random grunt - we're talking about gifted end of PhD mathematicians or equivalent to be much use to NSA for surrepticiously cracking or backdooring ciphers in the face of public analysis. (Well the DRBG one was pretty ham-fisted, but maybe they have some better ones we hvent found yet, or at least tried). Take a look eg at this washington monthly article, there is a history of top US universities having to divest themselves of direct involvment with classified research due to protestations of their academic staff about the ethical considerations. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2013/09/does_classified_r… > “In the 1960s students at MIT protested strongly against having a > classified research laboratory on the campus and MIT said we will divest > it, so it won’t be part of MIT anymore,” said Leslie. “It still exists in > Cambridge, but it’s not officially connected.” Leslie also points to > Stanford, where they made the decision for their Stanford Research > Institute to disaffiliate and become an independent non-profit. Psychopaths are a minority, and people on the top end of crypto/maths skills are sought after enough to easily move jobs even in a down market - so the "must collect pay-check" argument seems unlikely. So I stand by my argument that they probably scored an own goal on the retention and motivation front. I think for the majority of people - they wont like to go to work, or will feel demotivated, feeling the world is sneering at their employer as a quasi-criminal org. Adam On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:05:58PM +0200, David D wrote: > Quote, " You've got to think (NSA claims to be the biggest employer of > mathematicians) that seeing the illegal activities the US has been getting > up to with the fruits of their labour that they may have a mathematician > retention or motivation problem on their hands." > > You mean like the principled mathematicians working on cluster bombs, > drones, and other "cool shit"? > > Everyone at the NSA knows exactly what they are doing. > > I suspect, like most that suck off the military-industrial complex tit, > there is surprising low turnover. > > Paychecks only go so far with the principled, but spineless will collect a > check forever and do whatever it takes to keep it coming. _______________________________________________ cryptography mailing list cryptography(a)randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: Firefox OS with built in support for OpenPGP encryption
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Michael Rogers <michael(a)briarproject.org> ----- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:56:49 +0100 From: Michael Rogers <michael(a)briarproject.org> To: liberationtech <liberationtech(a)lists.stanford.edu> CC: Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: Firefox OS with built in support for OpenPGP encryption User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/09/13 10:04, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Baseband processors leave the system wide open to all kind of > attacks. Countermeasure would be running the 2G/3G/4G stack in an > open source SDR radio, or using an open source VoIP device that > connects by WLAN to a MiFi, which is considered part of the > untrusted Internet. > > The open source WLAN VoIP handset is more difficult than it > appears. In practice you'll have to use e.g. Jitsi with an USB > headset on a portable computer. Not exactly painless, and it opens > you up to system compromises. > > If anyone is aware of suitable dedicated hardware, I'd be thankful > for pointers. The Samsung Galaxy Player (Samsung Galaxy S WiFi in some countries) is essentially an Android phone without a baseband. I believe you can run CyanogenMod on it. Cheers, Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSMuFgAAoJEBEET9GfxSfMN6MH/i9od0mmSAZAC5kxudPAfvbO fqKJ4l9dlxnn/hlBvq0K+B3FPaLuqOQlnY8bxaGi1uMhCVBqiUUBC601Nk+Bv06m MPO1sdpcYbW/cpPNxOqFthiiWpzm3ZR37ycB7gxtwx/AZDGfLGPefZHxX4Hb0Fif 7RIWS8LkYgHkc0JeFURYE/pkE1PZ088KaiTR7RRl4Ya0IZ37U3fmlvP5uahapM0N l7AQQsVog70+8JFNNh4E2PWA6mwLG3MtUfvnvNiP7PBiFYv9i9knOqzczvgU8KXf uZ5yxuLsBtmwOHQsp7KhXZ9SsJR4RkVwYMx9VYBW58lQIJ079a12RYbVAyQ0SGE= =CTO/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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Re: [cryptography] very little is missing for working BTNS in Openswan
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Nico Williams <nico(a)cryptonector.com> ----- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:04:08 -0500 From: Nico Williams <nico(a)cryptonector.com> To: Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> Cc: cryptography(a)randombit.net, Cryptography List <cryptography(a)metzdowd.com> Subject: Re: [cryptography] very little is missing for working BTNS in Openswan User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:25:03AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Just got word from an Openswan developer: > > " > To my knowledge, we never finished implementing the BTNS mode. > > It wouldn't be hard to do --- it's mostly just conditionally commenting out > code. > " > There's obviously a large potential deployment base for > BTNS for home users, just think of Openswan/OpenWRT. Note: you don't just want BTNS, you also want RFC5660 -- "IPsec channels". You also want to define a channel binding for such channels (this is trivial). To summarize: IPsec protects discrete *packets*, not discrete packet *flows*. This means that -depending on configuration- you might be using IPsec to talk to some peer at some address at one moment, and the next you might be talking to a different peer at the same address, and you'd never know the difference. IPsec channels consist of ensuring that the peer's ID never changes during the life of a given packet flow (e.g., TCP connection). BTNS pretty much requires IPsec configurations of that make you vulnerable in this way. I think it should be obvious now that "IPsec channels" is a necessary part of any BTNS implementation. Nico -- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox CA
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> ----- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:19:59 -0400 From: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> To: freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox CA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 On 09/12/2013 10:06 AM, Keith wrote: > After further thought: > > With a CA on each freedombox we could have something like this > > Create a CA using (options used could be changed) > openssl genrsa -des3 -out "Freedombox CA.key" 4096 > openssl req -new -x509 -days 3650 -key "Freedombox CA.key" -out > "Freedombox CA.pem" > > Possibly replace any snakeoil keys created by Debian (Postfix uses 2048 > bits, could use 4096 bits if Postfix is the MTA used). > > Include in Plinth an option for a freedom box to obtain ssl keys with > the Freedombox CA. No interface to an external website, openssl can do > this. > > The public key of the Freedombox CA could be published, to be imported > into someone else's browser, could be a problem with multiple Freedombox > CA's with the same name. > > Possibly a paranoid option to rotate the ssl keys on the freedom box > running manually and/or as a cron job (Now doing this daily with one of > my mailservers). Hi Keith, In short, the entire white-hat security community guessed what "prohibitively expensive" meant. They guessed too low. Now we know, and everyone (including the white-hats and the surveillance industry) are scrambling to recover from the revelation. Some are thinking of it as the tinfoil hats coming off. I think of it as tinfoil hats appearing on every head of every person who has a device connected to the internet. I like it that way because "paranoid" becomes a synonym for "human", and all those previous "paranoid options" that are cordoned off with scant documentation suddenly become "bad human interfaces" which were prohibitively complicated to have actually provided security or privacy to the user when it turned out that they needed it. So to me, "paranoid option" now either means a) core feature which should be implemented cleanly, by default, or b) a dead coal mine canary that says the interface itself is too complicated, so start over and rethink it. Best, Jonathan _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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[liberationtech] Inside the Effort to Crowdfund NSA-Proof Email and Chat Services | Motherboard
by Eugen Leitl 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Yosem Companys <companys(a)stanford.edu> ----- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:29:15 -0700 From: Yosem Companys <companys(a)stanford.edu> To: Liberation Technologies <liberationtech(a)lists.stanford.edu> Subject: [liberationtech] Inside the Effort to Crowdfund NSA-Proof Email and Chat Services | Motherboard Reply-To: liberationtech <liberationtech(a)lists.stanford.edu> http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/inside-the-effort-to-crowdfund-nsa-proof-e… Back in 1999, Seattle-based activists formed the communication collective Riseup.net. The site's email and chat services, among other tools, soon offered dissidents a means of encrypted communication essential to their work. Fourteen years later, Riseup is still going strong. In fact, they've been fighting the US state surveillance apparatus longer than most people have been aware of the NSA's shenanigans. Now, the collective is hoping to expand, given the gross privacy transgressions of the NSA and US government as a whole. "What surveillance really is, at its root, is a highly effective form of social control," reads an AugustRiseup newsletter. "The knowledge of always being watched changes our behavior and stifles dissent. The inability to associate secretly means there is no longer any possibility for free association. The inability to whisper means there is no longer any speech that is truly free of coercion, real or implied. Most profoundly, pervasive surveillance threatens to eliminate the most vital element of both democracy and social movements: the mental space for people to form dissenting and unpopular views." The impetus behind the project is Riseup's struggle to keep up with new user demand for an email service that doesn't log IP addresses, sell data to third parties, or hand data over to the NSA. Riseup will also be able to expand its considerable anonymous emailing lists, which features nearly 6 million subscribers spread across 14,000 lists. Their Virtual Private Network (VPN), which allows users to securely connect to the internet as a whole, will also be made more robust. What Riseup can't do is offer its users an anonymous browsing experience, but that's not their aim. To offer Riseup to more users, Free Press's Joshua Levy, Elizabeth Stark (an open internet advocate who has taught at Stanford and Yale), as well as others at the StopWatching.Us campaign (backed by Mozilla) recently launched an Indiegogo crowd-funding effort on behalf of the group. They hope to raise $10,000 in order to provide Riseup—which is run by volunteers—with a new server, hardware, and software capabilities. In short, they want to expand their reach so that internet users have another alternative to email services such as Gmail, Yahoo, and Hotmail. To get a clearer picture of what StopWatching.Us and Riseup are doing, I spoke with Levy, Stark, and an anonymous Riseup collective member. We talked about how the crowdfunding money will be spent; how Riseup helps users avoid NSA, as well as state and local repression; and why, contrary to reports, the Tor Browser bundle is still the best option for anonymous, encrypted browsing. (As of today, the crowdfunding campaign reached it's $10,000 goal, but the organizers are hoping to exceed that total by a good margin.) [snip] -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at companys(a)stanford.edu. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5

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